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 Proton Prevé V15, Slow & Steady, Come Join Us Already..

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post Nov 8 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 01:45 PM)
Adeh... typo! doh.gif
Mintak ampun Abg. mat97 .... ampun seribu kali ampun! notworthy.gif

Oit!!! Ape gelak-gelak! Sekeh kang...  mad.gif
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 8 2012, 01:55 PM)
Ahahaha.. Of course laa gelak. If Abang87 he's no longer abang edy, its Adik Mat.. Ahahahaha.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
LOL!! Why do u support him when I support u!!! mad.gif

AHahahaha...
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if mat87 is adik mat, then wat about mat97???? whistling.gif cool.gif

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post Nov 8 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 01:45 PM)
Adeh... typo! doh.gif
Mintak ampun Abg. mat97 .... ampun seribu kali ampun! notworthy.gif
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doh.gif
salah lagi... shocking.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 8 2012, 01:55 PM)
Ahahaha.. Of course laa gelak. If Abang87 he's no longer abang edy, its Adik Mat.. Ahahahaha.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
LOL!! Why do u support him when I support u!!! mad.gif

AHahahaha...
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like this baru fun ma....
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:16 PM

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The sales will increase up to 2x if our proton preve logo change to toyota or honda tongue.gif.
Maybe sell more than 100k ppl also buy even though got a few problem.
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(mrchinot @ Nov 8 2012, 01:58 PM)
doh.gif
salah lagi...  shocking.gif
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SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII~ shocking.gif
I need a vacation-lah sad.gif Otak blur already...

Abg mat79... I'M SORRY!!!!! notworthy.gif cry.gif notworthy.gif

OffTopic: PREVOC.ORG officially in hibernate mode already or what? unsure.gif Dah bersawang dah...
I invite for "unofficial" TT in Malacca no reply also sad.gif

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post Nov 8 2012, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 02:16 PM)
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII~ shocking.gif
I need a vacation-lah sad.gif Otak blur already...

Abg mat79... I'M SORRY!!!!! notworthy.gif cry.gif notworthy.gif

OffTopic: PREVOC.ORG officially in hibernate mode already or what? unsure.gif Dah bersawang dah...
I invite for "unofficial" TT in Malacca no reply also sad.gif
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should put in fb prevoc...more active there....
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:46 PM

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Regarding TT actually,

Got a chance to discuss with the Boss yesterday, well the thing, we never stop members to organize Unofficial TT. U guys can do it, and have it advertised in the 3 channel that we had, Prevoc Forum, LYN, or Prevoc FB.

So sorry that we couldn't be there all the time GoldenHawk bro, trying our best to satisfy everybody's wish & desire. But 1 thing I'll promice u, the official TT will rock like the one we had in the Raya TT! Hehehe..
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post Nov 8 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 8 2012, 02:46 PM)
Regarding TT actually,

Got a chance to discuss with the Boss yesterday, well the thing, we never stop members to organize Unofficial TT. U guys can do it, and have it advertised in the 3 channel that we had, Prevoc Forum, LYN, or Prevoc FB.

So sorry that we couldn't be there all the time GoldenHawk bro, trying our best to satisfy everybody's wish & desire. But 1 thing I'll promice u, the official TT will rock like the one we had in the Raya TT! Hehehe..
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No worries Dude smile.gif Just mentioning.
I'm not much of an FB buff (a bit unorganized to me sad.gif )... I was just wondering why the forum has fallen asleep unsure.gif I'm sure there are tonnes of Prevoc members & I have been trying to pull attention to the forum. Doesn't seem to be working though sad.gif

Maybe I'm just getting old... cry.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 02:54 PM)
No worries Dude smile.gif Just mentioning.
I'm not much of an FB buff (a bit unorganized to me sad.gif )... I was just wondering why the forum has fallen asleep unsure.gif I'm sure there are tonnes of Prevoc members & I have been trying to pull attention to the forum. Doesn't seem to be working though sad.gif

Maybe I'm just getting old... cry.gif
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No laa... shakehead.gif

Got several of the members that also have tried it but not to say failed, the traffic there still slow. Majority of the members seems prefer to get the update from FB. Me on the other hand, is the same with u. And IMHO a lot more here agrees on that too. I like it in Forum Nad LYN more. As u said, its organized. In Prevoc forum is more organized due to its section by section but the reply is indeed slow. Not going to argue on that.

Well, again, we're sorry. Its up to u guys which is which u guys want to 'lepak', The most important thing is "sharing is caring". Hehehe thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Nov 8 2012, 03:06 PM)
No laa... shakehead.gif

Got several of the members that also have tried it but not to say failed, the traffic there still slow. Majority of the members seems prefer to get the update from FB. Me on the other hand, is the same with u. And IMHO a lot more here agrees on that too. I like it in Forum Nad LYN more. As u said, its organized. In Prevoc forum is more organized due to its section by section but the reply is indeed slow. Not going to argue on that.

Well, again, we're sorry. Its up to u guys which is which u guys want to 'lepak', The most important thing is "sharing is caring". Hehehe thumbup.gif
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OK, I'll try "caring" in FB... someone please approve my request... please... biggrin.gif
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Just got my White Preve Executive...going to bring her out for a spin after work brows.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 03:28 PM

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Just installed hood solution, cvt whine still there, maybe cut off abit high become more mid bass low bass sound.. I think if really wan eliminate cvt sound need soundproof the firewall..


Added on November 8, 2012, 3:29 pmI think cvt whine is annoying when u crawl the car at 30-40, tho if u open ur music sound bigger then its basically non existence lol.. I just now test with radio muted.

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post Nov 8 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(ryuken74 @ Nov 8 2012, 03:23 PM)
Just got my White Preve Executive...going to bring her out for a spin after work  brows.gif
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Congrats bro... Be gentle on your 1st date tongue.gif She might need some 'working in' brows.gif

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 8 2012, 03:28 PM)
Just installed hood solution, cvt whine still there, maybe cut off abit high become more mid bass low bass sound.. I think if really wan eliminate cvt sound need soundproof the firewall..


Added on November 8, 2012, 3:29 pmI think cvt whine is annoying when u crawl the car at 30-40, tho if u open ur music sound bigger then its basically non existence lol.. I just now test with radio muted.
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So... the soundproofing worked? unsure.gif Or not? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Jas_Havok @ Nov 8 2012, 01:02 PM)
finally will get my dugong slayer today after 2 weeks of waiting  rclxm9.gif
dugong slayer shocking.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 8 2012, 04:10 PM

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post Nov 8 2012, 04:47 PM

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hi, sorry for late reply, super duper bz lately, maybe need a long vacation afterwards. On dbw lags, actually hard to adjust it, not bcoz incapable, but due to emmision cntrl, which prtn only use same setting across the region. Since it is manual, compare to cvt which still can alter its tcu(which is done by punch with prtn collaboration), its fix. Can adjust the clutch manually for make it easier to launch by make it shorter, but if wrongly drive it, may damage the clutch.

The only things left is ecu mapping. I dun know too much details on iafm+ ecu mapping coz its diff people responsible for the mapping part, for iafm+, n another for cfe. Maybe u can ask sc everytime servicing, whether there is an update, but mostly only branch eon@prtn sc has the facility@service.

Since preve is quite heavy, agressive mapping may cause pretty high fc. Mostly setting is to provide balance between reliability, fc n performance.

While waiting for any setting, just adjusted u style of driving when power is ur concern such overtaking n need to move fast out of junction. While dbw throttle is diff than cable throttle, u can see how fast the rev drop after releasing the clutch during 1st gear, rev higher, so that when it drop, just drop at the region atleast at 2k rpm where by around 80% of torque already generated, such reving to 2.5k rpm(only apply if u need to drive faster than usual daily driving.)

while overtaking, make sure everytime u drop ur gear to overtake, the rev is around 3.5k rpm to 4k rpm, to get the most torque, and stay in gear until reaching 5k rpm atleast b4 upshift coz to take advantage of the runner shift to short one to promote faster air n better combustion. But that is only for engaging driving, for normal, rev to max 4k rpm b4 upshift is just enough for overtaking, n shift to the highest gear as soon as possible after finish overtaking coz reving more, more horse power but also means more burns of fuel.

If u notice,in any manual car, the gear ratio choosen related to peak hp n peak torque available. Generally, like in iafm+ manual, peak hp is at 5750 rpm, peak torque at 4k rpm, so, everytime u rev at peak hp at 5750 rpm and upshift,the engine rpm will drop around 4k rpm on the next change, n u continue rev to max hp,upshift, the rpm will drop around the region of max torque until overdrive gear. Thats why high rev engine also have high torque at high rpm to balance it out, in na form of course.

It jsut general rules coz very engine has diff character, but the trans tuning is to balance out hp n torque coz if not, can cause severe drop in pulling power, can cause high fc but no use coz power is un accessible through out the rev range.

Mitsu 4g18, eventhough has a lower rpm for max torque, ideal for town driving, but if accessing the whole power like revving to max hp, its not reallyengaging coz torque is dropping too early, so it become slower n slower reaching top hp.
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Golden Hawk..u r malaccan right?
Did u update the new ECU remap for your car already?
Wish to know which SC in Melaka have the new ECU
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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Nov 8 2012, 03:42 PM)
Congrats bro... Be gentle on your 1st date tongue.gif She might need some 'working in' brows.gif

So... the soundproofing worked? unsure.gif Or not? unsure.gif
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not effective biggrin.gif i might try cover the part near to the mirror.
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QUOTE(eXnikaru @ Nov 8 2012, 04:54 PM)
Golden Hawk..u r malaccan right?
Did u update the new ECU remap for your car already?
Wish to know which SC in Melaka have the new ECU
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Yes, I'm Malaccan but I work in KL sad.gif I'll be sending my car to the CoE for service.
In Malacca, I think you only choices are Peringgit Point (On the way to Ayer Keroh from Malacca Hospital) or the Malim one (from Batu Berendam to Malim, on the left). No other good choices I think. And you'll definitely need an appointment...


Added on November 8, 2012, 5:02 pm
QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 8 2012, 04:59 PM)
not effective biggrin.gif i might try cover the part near to the mirror.
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Ouch! sad.gif
Keep us posted dude... we'd like to learn from your experiments tongue.gif

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iafm@vis using supercharger concept, but the missing part is the supercharger :-). Nonetheless, the aim is to give out the best torque as can across the rev range. Unlucky that bod dont approve flx se manual for malaysia coz that baby can fly :-), sorry, overgerated a bit, actually really fast coz the weight is much lesser than preve by much, can play play with cfe turbo cvt if max to max rev counted and in the right hand of course:-).

N since preve iafm+ 1.3 tonne++, n most suitable torque which u feel the pulling power is coming out is around 3k rpm which nearly 90% of torque already generated which around 135nm. But for flx se manual, 110nm is just enough, n that shud be less than 2k rpm, thats why flx 1.6 iafm+ manual is fast.

Since iafm+ using torque based ecu, the fuel rail will injected correct amount of fuel so that the torque needed is achieve as fast as it could even using manual disguised. Thats why plonking previous iafm using loadbased ecu, even for manual, can be catasthrophy.

Actually, in c segment around the whole, even preve 1.6 iafm+ seems puny n little, but other makes do offer the same cc engine, n some even as small as 1.4l na engine for c segment car, but of course, normally in manual form. Only in malaysia thats its rarely seen@sold, maybe they know that malaysian seems to buy big car with big engine capacity.even pug 5008 offer 1.6 na engine in manual disguise. If not mistaken, there is civic 1.4l na version n 1.6l. Sorry if wrong about that coz cant remember exactly, seem rusting a bit now when i grow older :-).


Added on November 8, 2012, 5:19 pmsorry, typo, around the world, not the whole, what is happening to old man nowadays :-)...

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