i meant if you choose long cage which is not needed for a 27, it will be very sloppy due to the lengthier chain

Paul Krimmage is filing a criminal complaint against against International Cycling Union leaders Pat McQuaid and Hein Verbruggen, accusing them of protecting Lance Armstrong while he won seven Tour de France titles.
Paul Kimmage, a former Tour rider and vocal anti-doping campaigner, alleges defamation and fraud in the case filed in Switzerland.

300 bucks gets you nothing this days... i doubt even at the hypermarkets... maybe only kiddie bikes...

you still did haven't set a ceiling... but safe grounds to start off would be an alloy bike for around RM3.5k and upwards...without naming any specific bikes ... this is somewhat what the market is having around this time..

so... to give you a slight idea of how it should be at least for the more reputable brands...

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up
     - this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up
     - most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

     - i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up
     - this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

     - here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

     - price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
     - step into this and there will be no return...

2013 Giant TCR, seems nice

Cough Cough.. Polygon carbon with 105 RM 4k+. And Giant with ultegra alloy frame 6k..Good deal..

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Added on November 3, 2012, 2:37 pm
Looks like Scott series...

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Added on November 3, 2012, 2:39 pmLater, let's post our rides in the forum's main page in V4 

i saw the helios 600 being sold for over 5k?

Fraser Hill conquered! I'm a happy man

I did not see the GIANT TCR composite....I did not I did not.

Eyes set and pretty much decided on the Scott Speedster 20 from Bike Pro d, price is good as well but will only be firm on Monday.

Now deciding between getting a clip on pedal or no since I'm not planning to get the shoes first.

Remember what I said about Rgger Clemens & Lance Armstrong?



UCI and most of LA fans & supporters want him to disappear from the cycling world? Well not so fast one way or the other LA will get due process by telling the truth on the stand!
Well like I said the worm has turned!
Good for Paul and those victims of LA and his cronies. Its about time the bullies are brought to task & justice.

I did not see the GIANT TCR composite....I did not I did not.

Eyes set and pretty much decided on the Scott Speedster 20 from Bike Pro d, price is good as well but will only be firm on Monday.

Now deciding between getting a clip on pedal or no since I'm not planning to get the shoes first.

Just wondering if 1k would b sufficient for me to buy all the essential accesories and apparels? Essential ones la

calling YB Butthead

Calling YB Butthead...

jangan tak click oh....

I remember seeing it selling at special price around RM5500 ish at rodalink bangsar. Got sold very fast too.

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Added on November 3, 2012, 6:49 pm

Any takers since robberbank jump ship already 

What do you think about this?



TCR advanced 0

or

Trek madone 5.9



  Huge price jump between them

TCR is a bargain, TREK rarely seen on roads. Definitely expensive too.

expensive is an understatement, overprice is more like it

wah thm fibula calipers...got their carbon crank and saddle??

my fav enve 1.25 rims somemore...f@kkkkkk

u beli already is it...

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Added on November 3, 2012, 9:00 pmwats yb standing for anyways???

yang berbuntut?

yes butthead, like yes man?