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chinti
post Sep 7 2011, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:06 PM)
Minna No Nihongo Bk1 - JLPT N5
Minna No Nihongo Bk2 - JLPT N4

Just buy all my these books from me so you can direct go to JLPT N3  tongue.gif
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u accept credit card~? tongue.gif
how much ya selling all~?


Added on September 7, 2011, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:06 PM)
Minna No Nihongo Bk1 - JLPT N5
Minna No Nihongo Bk2 - JLPT N4

Just buy all my these books from me so you can direct go to JLPT N3  tongue.gif
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u accept credit card~? tongue.gif
how much ya selling all~?

This post has been edited by chinti: Sep 7 2011, 07:17 PM
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Sep 7 2011, 07:16 PM)
u accept credit card~?  tongue.gif 
how much ya selling all~?


Added on September 7, 2011, 7:17 pm
u accept credit card~?  tongue.gif 
how much ya selling all~?
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bulk sell cheap cheap, pm and offer me
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post Sep 7 2011, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:40 PM)
bulk sell cheap cheap, pm and offer me
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din noe i reply twice...swt...
i dunno the book price...u offer me a price n i nego~ biggrin.gif


Added on September 8, 2011, 8:51 pmhi...erm...so can anyone tell me which book to get? i'm going kinokuniya this weekend...

1. Minna No Nihongo Intermediate Level 1 Translation & Grammatical Notes English Ver.( )

2. Minna No Nihongo Bk. 2 Translation and Grammatical Notes( )

3. Minna no Nihongo Bk. 2( )

4. Minna no Nihongo Bk. 1( )

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post Oct 16 2011, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Sep 6 2011, 12:15 AM)
Can someone advice how to improve listening skills? I have problem on this

Borrow thread, I'm selling my JLPT books, refer my link below
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2022754
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What is the reason you're selling the books? I see the reason as "not needed anymore" meaning that your Japanese is very good already...?
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post Oct 17 2011, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(engseng @ Oct 16 2011, 11:00 AM)
What is the reason you're selling the books? I see the reason as "not needed anymore" meaning that your Japanese is very good already...?
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Not "very good", but since i already pass N3 so these books not needed anymore
PM me if interested
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post Oct 26 2011, 11:30 PM

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I need help!! im having a hard time memorising those hiragana and katakana words! can anyone help me? how do i remember all 40++ characters??
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post Oct 27 2011, 12:07 AM

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Take it one group at a time.

Example:
First group of hiragana would be a,i,u,e,o.

Write those hiragana down on a notebook/paper/what-have-you 50 times (or more).

Rinse and repeat for every single group of hiragana/katakana.
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post Oct 27 2011, 12:14 AM

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To improve listening - try listen to JapanesePod101 podcast

To memorise hiragana and katakana, try to memorise hiragana first. What I did last time is I get a Japanese learning book that is without any romaji, then I write their romaji on top of the characters. After doing this for some time then I start to memorise them already. After that do the same thing to katakana. But katakana i think is more difficult to remember than hiragana.

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post Oct 27 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(jayhan @ Oct 27 2011, 12:14 AM)
To improve listening - try listen to JapanesePod101 podcast

To memorise hiragana and katakana, try to memorise hiragana first. What I did last time is I get a Japanese learning book that is without any romaji, then I write their romaji on top of the characters. After doing this for some time then I start to memorise them already. After that do the same thing to katakana. But katakana i think is more difficult to remember than hiragana.
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I found that memorising both hiragana and katagana on the same time will just mess up both table together
So i just memorise hiragana, for katagana i memorize through words instead (memorise reading of カレンダー instead of each character)

But i still having problem in listening, my brain cant follow the speed
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post Oct 30 2011, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 26 2011, 11:30 PM)
I need help!! im having a hard time memorising those hiragana and katakana words! can anyone help me? how do i remember all 40++ characters??
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Use flashcards preferably with a practice partner. Works like a charm. 2 weeks intensive practice is all you need. After that it's all about regular use, which you can get by using textbooks that does NOT use romaji.

REPEAT AFTER ME: "I SHALL NOT RELY ON ROMAJI."
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Added on October 30, 2011, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Oct 27 2011, 07:20 PM)
But i still having problem in listening, my brain cant follow the speed
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listen more. leave the minna no nihongo tapes for the class room. Outside of it you need multiple sessions j-dorama/doraemon/NHK without the subs.
Listening comprehension is a 2 step process:
the first step is to be able to "tune" your hearing so you catch the syllables and follow the natural rhythm of the language.
2nd step comes after your hearing is "tuned", which is to check up unfamiliar words in a dictionary

This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: Oct 30 2011, 07:15 PM
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Anyone here going for the N5 / N4 mock test organized by JLSM?
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Oct 30 2011, 07:08 PM)
Use flashcards preferably with a practice partner. Works like a charm. 2 weeks intensive practice is all you need. After that it's all about regular use, which you can get by using textbooks that does NOT use romaji.

REPEAT AFTER ME: "I SHALL NOT RELY ON ROMAJI."
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Added on October 30, 2011, 7:15 pm
listen more. leave the minna no nihongo tapes for the class room. Outside of it you need multiple sessions j-dorama/doraemon/NHK without the subs.
Listening comprehension is a 2 step process:
the first step is to be able to "tune" your hearing so you catch the syllables and follow the natural rhythm of the language.
2nd step comes after your hearing is "tuned", which is to check up unfamiliar words in a dictionary
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Ya now I'm full time practicing listening skill, didn't focus much on kanji/grammar
You watch anime/NHK without sub can understand notworthy.gif , i can't too fast for me to catch
You got any site to watch anime/drama/NHK with japanese sub to recommend?

QUOTE(BingYao @ Nov 7 2011, 03:29 PM)
Anyone here going for the N5 / N4 mock test organized by JLSM?
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mock test = prepatory class?
Recommend you to go, i go for N3 last time
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 8 2011, 03:59 PM)
You watch anime/NHK without sub can understand notworthy.gif , i can't too fast for me to catch
You got any site to watch anime/drama/NHK with japanese sub to recommend?
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Everyone has to start somewhere. When I was a noobie learner, all my animu were sourced from VCD and DVD. I learned the hard way, paying through my nose for animu discs (yes, even the RM39 per disc Taiwanese imports), extra Japanese lessons (up to 6 hours a week), extra reference books from kinokuniya, doing internet research + multiple viewings to understand animu etc. As for listening, we didn't have any fancy iphone dictionaries or denshi jisho so I had to furiously flip through a dog-eared dictionary as my teacher was speaking to decipher any unfamiliar words.

Things are sooo much easier these days tongue.gif

I don't watch anime online so I wouldn't know of any subbed anime websites, but I used to go to Tokyotosho/l33t raws for BT. Material with japanese subs is comparatively rare but should be available there.
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post Jan 9 2012, 03:06 AM

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Hi guys! an actual japanese blog translator here =v=b I dunno if u guys know about morning musume, but i translate Takahashi Ai chans blog.

anyway, i had no formal classes whatsoever. dun like to read on books. but just a few tip on learning nihongo.

please google tae kim grammar guide on japanese. the best grammar-based site to learn. also for maggie's japanese lessons, quite a laidback way to learn, they teach u stuff like everyday usual conversation which are pretty much more appealing than just simple -masu stem verbs.. also, like anyone wud do, please try to brush up ur japanese by watching animes/dramas etc.

got questions please feel free to pm me biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(noonies_naruto @ Jan 9 2012, 03:06 AM)
Hi guys! an actual japanese blog translator here =v=b I dunno if u guys know about morning musume, but i translate Takahashi Ai chans blog.

anyway, i had no formal classes whatsoever. dun like to read on books. but just a few tip on learning nihongo.

please google tae kim grammar guide on japanese. the best grammar-based site to learn. also for maggie's japanese lessons, quite a laidback way to learn, they teach u stuff like everyday usual conversation which are pretty much more appealing than just simple -masu stem verbs.. also, like anyone wud do, please try to brush up ur japanese by watching animes/dramas etc.

got questions please feel free to pm me biggrin.gif
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Sent you a pm, thx for the links smile.gif

Anyways, hi guys, 'm just starting out learning kanji on my own and i realized its one thing to remember a character's single meaning and another to remember the meaning in an actual word. How do i get about learning this?

For eg, I learned the kanji 火 which is fire. can be pronouned with か (on) and ひ (kun)。 But, when used in a whole word like, 火傷 (burn/scald) it becomes やけど.

So how should i deal with this? Memorise the 2000+ jouyo kanji and then slowly memorise every common word that uses the kanji or pick up the words as i go along? There's no alternative besides memorizing here, as far as i can see. haha. Pretty stressful for me.

Tips and help will be much appreciated from the sifus here notworthy.gif
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post Jan 28 2012, 10:39 PM

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I think we just have to memorize as we learning, no short cut way to memorize the pronunciation of this kind of word. Besides yakedo, what condition we pronounce it as かしょう Is also a question mark for me
Another example
故郷ーふるさと、こきょう
家ーいえ、うち

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yeah, there is no easy way to learn kanji and even Chinese character... all the best
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I have one question to ask...
We know that "I'm sorry" in Japanese is gomenasai but there is other word of "I'm sorry" which is sumimasen.

Between these two words, "gomenasai" and "sumimasen" refers to who?
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post Feb 2 2012, 12:25 PM

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my understanding is

gomenasai = i'm sorry

sumimasen = excuse me

although it's common people used to say sumimasen when being apologetic
an example would be if you're going to interrupt or ask someone (stranger) a question maybe, people might start with

sumimasen, , <question>
instead of
gomen, <question>

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こんにちはみんな! 日本語話せません、だから教えるあたしください。
’Google Translate’だめよお願いします。

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