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Fitness The Runners Thread V5, RUNINSPIRED !!!

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Sky.Live
post Jul 23 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(joonming @ Jul 23 2012, 04:32 PM)
isn't the li-ning advertisement in this page, the sport person demo what is heel strike?
correct me if i'm wrong, newbies here just start now how to run tongue.gif
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Yes that's a perfect heel striking movement. I cant do that also..

Dogs I would need to admit hospital a few times b4 i can outrun him
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(lung85 @ Jul 18 2012, 02:40 PM)
http://borneomarathon.com
who is taking part for next year? i frm EM(kuching) but i interested go KK, but registration fee is expensive......
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kk welcome you... rclxms.gif well considering it's the only running event in east malaysia, you can't ask for more in terms of registration fees.. plus eventhough this was the 5th year that BIM has been held but it was actually a reboot as it was handle by a whole new organising team.


QUOTE(pacifism @ Jul 18 2012, 11:15 PM)
Hi i am also new here too. Fairly new to running started last year in Putrajaya night marathon 2011, i run as tenno.  Nice to meet you.
As far as i know BIM 2013 is still in planning stage, next year i hope they keep the route. Nice to run, although i haven't booked my just ticket just yet. Might do some driving from KK to Sandakan or Tawau next year.
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as far as i know they won't change much in terms on the route and on the stated date of 5th May 2013.. i'm pretty sure it will be the same for next year. so do book your ticket early... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Amika @ Jul 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
kk welcome you...  rclxms.gif well considering it's the only running event in east malaysia, you can't ask for more in terms of registration fees..  plus eventhough this was the 5th year that BIM has been held but it was actually a reboot as it was handle by a whole new organising team.
as far as i know they won't change much in terms on the route and on the stated date of 5th May 2013.. i'm pretty sure it will be the same for next year. so do book your ticket early...  thumbup.gif
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i booked airasia rm88 return n go. go with 2 friends but i stay only 4day 3 nite, cos after that the ticket price is expensive.

if u c the route for 10k, got a lot of uphill o not?
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post Jul 23 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(lung85 @ Jul 23 2012, 05:16 PM)
i booked airasia rm88 return n go. go with 2 friends but i stay only 4day 3 nite, cos after that the ticket price is expensive.

if u c the route for 10k, got a lot of uphill o not?
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10k route has always remained the same for the past 5 years.. very flat.. lol.. best race to achieve PB... whistling.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:05 PM

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Damn, I think I heel-strike too from all your descriptions. I guess it must be hard to correct after so many years of running
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post Jul 24 2012, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 23 2012, 11:05 PM)
Damn, I think I heel-strike too from all your descriptions. I guess it must be hard to correct after so many years of running
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well, i think most beginner will have this problem, it's just second nature.. if you think like this is how normally people will walk that is they will land on their heel first..
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Amika @ Jul 24 2012, 09:36 AM)
well, i think most beginner will have this problem, it's just second nature.. if you think like this is how normally people will walk that is they will land on their heel first..
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Hmm heel strike is actually not a nature. Have you seen small babies who heel strike. Forefoot is actually the nature of how we run.

learn from small babies, look at how they breath. All the way til diaphragm, what you put your hand on their tummy, it's moving up and down.

Look at them how they run, always forefoot and so naturally.

Look at how they fall, they would climb up and run again.

can you forefoot walk? I tried many ways it's not really possible..
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:45 AM

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I have been running for quite a number of races and only know I've noticed I heel-strike and also overstride, but I guess I'm already used to this running pattern. Should I just let it be?
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 24 2012, 11:45 AM)
I have been running for quite a number of races and only know I've noticed I heel-strike and also overstride, but I guess I'm already used to this running pattern. Should I just let it be?
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no harm learning to run forefoot, although it can be very frustrating cause you will need to slow down..
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Hi, I walk and run with mid foot strike and landing. Take off the stride with fore foot. So far is run efficient for me.. there is a lot of running factor we need to learn and adapt to a natural running posture. Many of us are too self-conscious on how they run.
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:49 AM

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By forefoot u mean, landing on the front part of the sole and then rolling down the whole foot or just the forefoot is touching the ground all the time?
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You can imagine how a Tank moves with the chain. or Bicycle chain cycle. It's like that.
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:58 AM

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hello...

running only wei... why want to makes its sound so hard and technical.

heel landing la, mid-foot landing.. forefoot landing la...

stop cocking, go out start running NOW! clock some mileage, feel the legs, no need care about landing style as you only run for 1-2KM or 30 mins perhaps... nothing will harm ur legs, ur knees, ur muscles.

Just Run.


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post Jul 24 2012, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 24 2012, 11:58 AM)
hello...

running only wei... why want to makes its sound so hard and technical.

heel landing la, mid-foot landing.. forefoot landing la...

stop cocking, go out start running NOW! clock some mileage, feel the legs, no need care about landing style as you only run for 1-2KM or 30 mins perhaps... nothing will harm ur legs, ur knees, ur muscles.

Just Run.
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I'm asking because my next marathon is a 42k. Afterall, that's the point of having this forum. Otherwise, we might as well just close this forum and ask everyone to go out and run. Cheers, dude
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:06 PM

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well before this, i din realize there are so many types of running way.

I tot I am mid-foot landing, but i checked back my scklm 2012 photo, my pattern is heel striker as well, btw i am still able to finish half marathon within 1 hour 56 min without any special feeling of my legs.
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 24 2012, 12:02 PM)
I'm asking because my next marathon is a 42k. Afterall, that's the point of having this forum. Otherwise, we might as well just close this forum and ask everyone to go out and run. Cheers, dude
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mind im asking, how many 10km run? 21km run? Preparing for 42km, you should have some mileages clocked on ur legs, you should know ur legs well, ur ability to go fast or slow, far or not far. dont tell me you is a newbie and wanted to attempt 42KM marathon.

spirit wise, respect. but body wise, you are kamikaze your body. why go into 42km when you're so green in running. i'm just hope running would be a sustainable activities, and not to get urself injured and stop running for rest of life.

no points having so much info when you not yet start into running. we here discuss how to improve running, sharing tips for race preparation.

u can tell ur problems face in running, we can share our experience.

just hope no more silly questions asked.

QUOTE(mimi89 @ Jul 24 2012, 12:06 PM)
well before this, i din realize there are so many types of running way.

I tot I am mid-foot landing, but i checked back my scklm 2012 photo, my pattern is heel striker as well, btw i am still able to finish half marathon within 1 hour 56 min without any special feeling of my legs.
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1hrs 56mins, sub 2 timing for half marathon is fast!

it's naturally we will land with heel as when we gets tired and we are wearing thick cushioning shoe!
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:34 PM

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Is the cushion shoe that promote your to land on your heel, coz it feels good =)
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 24 2012, 12:16 PM)
mind im asking, how many 10km run? 21km run? Preparing for 42km, you should have some mileages clocked on ur legs, you should know ur legs well, ur ability to go fast or slow, far or not far. dont tell me you is a newbie and wanted to attempt 42KM marathon.

spirit wise, respect. but body wise, you are kamikaze your body. why go into 42km when you're so green in running. i'm just hope running would be a sustainable activities, and not to get urself injured and stop running for rest of life.

no points having so much info when you not yet start into running. we here discuss how to improve running, sharing tips for race preparation.

u can tell ur problems face in running, we can share our experience.

just hope no more silly questions asked.
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SO you like judging someone based on their question. I wonder how on the earth can you know that I am 'new' to running when I personally do not really know you. You must have a heck of the brilliant mind-reading power any human would ever possessed.

Dude, I'm just asking for opinion, there is seriously no need for you to use the word silly here. I guess we need to propose to the moderator to impose some STRICT guidelines that disallow people from posting SILLY question here, with the definition of SILLY provided by you, that is.
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:46 PM

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Calm down everybody...

Forefoot/midfoot strike means U will land on that area first, there's always possibility that Ur heel will make minimal contact with the ground. Forefoot strike doesn't mean that U run on the toes/balls of Ur feet only & the heel never touch the ground. Only sprinters do that. Try doing that in a race more than 10K. It'll do more harm than good.

Heel strikers means U will land heel first, then Ur feet will make a transition to toe-off using the forefoot. Is it possible to toe-off/take off using heels ? I dun think so. Is there anything wrong with heel striking ? Of course not. There's one female runner who got podium for Boston Marathon last year I think, she was a heel striker.

Studies have shown that the most natural way & perhaps the recommended stride for distance runners is the forefoot/midfoot stride. But most shoes are designed for heel strikers, this can be seen from the amount of cushioning on the heel area. Manufacturers also tend to place the most durable outsole material (BRS1000, AHAR, etc) on the heel area to increase a shoe's durability. The only shoes that I know with dedicated/specialized forefoot cushioning is Newton. Some manufacturer will put extra cushioning on the forefoot area.

As I've said many times before, there's no wrong or right in this matter. Just run the way U feel most natural to U. I was a heel striker when I began but now that I've switched to midfoot strike, I felt that it was a better stride. I've tried switching back to heel striking, doesn't feel right. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tenno @ Jul 24 2012, 12:46 PM)
Calm down everybody...

Forefoot/midfoot strike means U will land on that area first, there's always possibility that Ur heel will make minimal contact with the ground. Forefoot strike doesn't mean that U run on the toes/balls of Ur feet only & the heel never touch the ground. Only sprinters do that. Try doing that in a race more than 10K. It'll do more harm than good.
 
Heel strikers means U will land heel first, then Ur feet will make a transition to toe-off using the forefoot. Is it possible to toe-off/take off using heels ? I dun think so. Is there anything wrong with heel striking ? Of course not. There's one female runner who got podium for Boston Marathon last year I think, she was a heel striker.

Studies have shown that the most natural way & perhaps the recommended stride for distance runners is the forefoot/midfoot stride. But most shoes are designed for heel strikers, this can be seen from the amount of cushioning on the heel area. Manufacturers also tend to place the most durable outsole material (BRS1000, AHAR, etc) on the heel area to increase a shoe's durability. The only shoes that I know with dedicated/specialized forefoot cushioning is Newton. Some manufacturer will put extra cushioning on the forefoot area.

As I've said many times before, there's no wrong or right in this matter. Just run the way U feel most natural to U. I was a heel striker when I began but now that I've switched to midfoot strike, I felt that it was a better stride. I've tried switching back to heel striking, doesn't feel right.  tongue.gif
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Thanks for the clarification. Really appreciated it. smile.gif

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