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post Jun 5 2012, 11:32 PM, updated 14y ago

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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Tom Werner


League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 8
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03 ; 2011-12

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
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==> You'll Never Walk Alone <==

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You'll never, ever walk alone.

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post Jun 5 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 6 2012, 10:45 PM)
Work ethics can only bring you so far.No players can get into a team in the epl without work ethics.What separates the best from the rest is talent.Spearing is a hardworking player but he lacks the talent to be a top level player.Same can be said of many of our players past or present.
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well, we invested in some talent before tongue.gif kinda cost us quite a bit, unfortunately didn't blossom as much as we liked.

maybe a go at the lower rungs of minor or non leagues may unearth some gem stones. sweat.gif



I know some may accuse of us of having little faith, i don't want to sound like a party popper, i'm a realist.

What lies ahead for LFc will be difficult. We all acknowledge that next season ManC, ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea are in front in the group for players destination (A list players and big talent). Liverpool, Tottenham, Newcastle comes next.

Hopefully next season, we'll have some hogwarts magic to help us to somewhat cast away "hit the post syndrome" cool2.gif


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Rudi Garcia has now announced that Rodgers has decided that Cole will be part of his plans for next season.

"Joe Cole will stay at Liverpool," he told Canal+. "The new staff have decided to keep him. We will remember him very fondly as a player but also as a man."

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 6 2012, 12:14 AM)
well, we invested in some talent before tongue.gif kinda cost us quite a bit, unfortunately didn't blossom as much as we liked.

maybe a go at the lower rungs of minor or non leagues may unearth some gem stones.  sweat.gif
I know some may accuse of us of having little faith, i don't want to sound like a party popper, i'm a realist.

What lies ahead for LFc will be difficult. We all acknowledge that next season ManC, ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea are in front in the group for players destination (A list players and big talent). Liverpool, Tottenham, Newcastle comes next. 

Hopefully next season, we'll have some hogwarts magic to help us to somewhat cast away "hit the post syndrome"  cool2.gif
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Well you can group arsenal with us too.Their lack of winning culture and refusal to spend big says otherwise.
If you have proper scouts you can unearth some gems like you said and of course a ''best player possible'' instead of a ''white british only'' policy.If newcastle can get players like papiss cisse,demba ba,cabaye and united can get hernandez for meagre amounts i think it's down to their scouts.

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Gylfi Sigurdsson: Liverpool may bid says Brendan Rodgers

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 6 2012, 01:33 AM)
Well you can group arsenal with us too.Their lack of winning culture and refusal to spend big says otherwise.
If you have proper scouts you can unearth some gems like you said and of course a ''best player possible'' instead of a ''white british only'' policy.If newcastle can get players like papiss cisse,demba ba,cabaye and united can get hernandez for meagre amounts i think it's down to their scouts.
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i think there are talent(s) out there. i sure our scouts have recommended or have a list of 'potentials' our there. its a business of combining what & how you want them to fit into the play system but ultimately "the draw (allure) of the club/city of interest" will decide if the player is interested.

Arsenal is in city of bright lights, incredible social escapade for young minds seeking the comforts after a game or training's. so in that sense, it a notch ahead of us (and a place like the city of newcastle, etc)

i'm sure gylfi sigurdsson (the ?????? player) will join us once the tug of war has settled (it's all down to money i suppose) hmm.gif or it the matter of; will we be sensible or downright reckless with it yawn.gif I think it should be the former after all the slap of reality of our previous outrageous outlay vs the likes of transfers of newcastle, swansea, tottenham (?)


i think i know where BR knows our weakness on the current squad hence the look into reinforcement in the midfield, (amongst the telling) and a notable player with a eye for goals (perhaps striker?)

Throughout the whole of last season, we were unable to show authority and aggression or pretty much impose 'hurt'. Dominating or passing amongst ourselves without a final telling pass isn't going to win games but it sure do look good (& score big points for a player) statistically.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 6 2012, 08:44 AM)
i think there are talent(s) out there. i sure our scouts have recommended or have a list of 'potentials' our there. its a business of combining what & how you want them to fit into the play system but ultimately "the draw (allure) of the club/city of interest" will decide if the player is interested.

Arsenal is in city of bright lights, incredible social escapade for young minds seeking the comforts after a game or training's. so in that sense, it a notch ahead of us (and a place like the city of newcastle, etc)   

i'm sure gylfi sigurdsson (the ?????? player) will join us once the tug of war has settled (it's all down to money i suppose) hmm.gif or it the matter of; will we be sensible or downright reckless with it  yawn.gif  I think it should be the former after all the slap of reality of our previous outrageous outlay vs the likes of transfers of newcastle, swansea, tottenham (?)
i think i know where BR knows our weakness on the current squad hence the look into reinforcement in the midfield, (amongst the telling) and a notable player with a eye for goals (perhaps striker?)

Throughout the whole of last season, we were unable to show authority and aggression or pretty much impose 'hurt'. Dominating or passing amongst ourselves without a final telling pass isn't going to win games but it sure do look good (& score big points for a player) statistically.
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Liverpool got e Echo Arena, Liverpool One and Liverpool Waterfront..all of them a great place for me..especially during summer..fake beach at Liverpool One.. thumbup.gif and Lobster Pot Liverpool..I know..this is just a small restaurant..fast food restaurant..but good food Hahahaha icon_idea.gif

hmm so there will be no DoF for Liverpool?? if no then the transfer will be control by BR..I think he will go with potential rather than star signing..
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jun 6 2012, 08:33 AM)
Liverpool got e Echo Arena, Liverpool One and Liverpool Waterfront..all of them a great place for me..especially during summer..fake beach at Liverpool One.. thumbup.gif and Lobster Pot Liverpool..I know..this is just a small restaurant..fast food restaurant..but good food Hahahaha icon_idea.gif

hmm so there will be no DoF for Liverpool?? if no then the transfer will be control by BR..I think he will go with potential rather than star signing..
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instead of DoF,they'll appoint a group of people..BR included...so its not ONE person job but it is shared by a group of people nod.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 6 2012, 09:52 AM)
instead of DoF,they'll appoint a group of people..BR included...so its not ONE person job but it is shared by a group of people nod.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 6 2012, 08:55 AM)
semi boot room i guess (on possible transfers)  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 6 2012, 09:52 AM)
instead of DoF,they'll appoint a group of people..BR included...so its not ONE person job but it is shared by a group of people nod.gif
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the same with us..except we only got one..and liverpool got a few..

now many club restructuring the hierarchy within the club..chelsea now suddenly the signing control by our DoF..that is why 2 signing already without manager..

a group handling a club is very much democratic hahaha..at least they know what to do and to focus on.. not everything on the manager... nod.gif
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jun 6 2012, 09:33 AM)
Liverpool got e Echo Arena, Liverpool One and Liverpool Waterfront..all of them a great place for me..especially during summer..fake beach at Liverpool One.. thumbup.gif and Lobster Pot Liverpool..I know..this is just a small restaurant..fast food restaurant..but good food Hahahaha icon_idea.gif

hmm so there will be no DoF for Liverpool?? if no then the transfer will be control by BR..I think he will go with potential rather than star signing..
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miss out this word 'probably' biggrin.gif

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Arsenal is in city of bright lights, incredible social escapade for young minds seeking the comforts after a game or training's. so in that sense, it's probably a notch ahead of us (and a place like the city of newcastle, etc).


you been there, you know (not that i have lived there but from friends). But i'm sure it probably boils down to individuality of the person. but if an offer(s) comes, (pay aside), chances are social comforts will become a forefront in consideration. I'm not saying city of liverpool is a prison/dull devoid of color, in fact it's an olde city, incredible amount of historical buildings etc. The allure is different.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 6 2012, 10:05 AM)
miss out this word 'probably'  biggrin.gif
you been there, you know (not that i have lived there but from friends). But i'm sure it probably boils down to individuality of the person. but if an offer(s) comes, (pay aside), chances are social comforts will become a forefront in consideration. I'm not saying city of liverpool is a prison/dull devoid of color, in fact it's an olde city, incredible amount of historical buildings etc. The allure is different.
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i get it.. the capital must have a better attraction laugh.gif but still liverpool is great..some part..was scary but the city area just awesome.. laugh.gif..i never been to manchester..but i friend said that manchester just like housing area of damansara.. laugh.gif
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well, we may have our "first" signing

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Cole set for Anfield return
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Lille boss Rudi Garcia today wished Joe Cole well for the future after revealing he expects the Liverpool midfielder to return to the club this summer.

Cole has spent this season on loan with the 2010-11 league champions, with whom he made 42 appearances and helped finish in the top three of the table.

"Joe Cole will stay at Liverpool," said Garcia.

"The new (Lfc) staff have decided to keep him. We will remember him very fondly as a player but also as a man."

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"I know there are three types of supporters at every club," he added.

"Number one is those who, no matter who the manager is, they love their club and they will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion and they love their club.

"The second group is supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful. That's fine.

"The third group are the critics and you never change them ever. If you win four nil it should have been five. If you win the league it should have been three.

"I will never worry about that group because you can never affect them. If you do a good job you are proving them wrong but they can't be proved wrong so they will kill you even more.

"I only want to work with the people who love the club. I have always had good relations with the media and with the supporters.

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Which type of supporter are you?

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i'm pretty sure we, or most of us fall in the category of 1 & 2. After all the bickering, debate, some unwarranted name calling blink.gif amongst the forumers here, we are still here. tongue.gif


i dont think we've been successful in recent times or as in the past decade or two to be associated with number 3 type of fans (god forbid!!) unlike a certain other club which the whole world knows about biggrin.gif

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GYlfi vid...looks like he can score distnt goals



Walau...he score against us in the FA cup before playin for Reading!

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i hope this euro brendan will sign schurrle before any team get him... much more like scorer type of ozil
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players i would like us to sign...

1. Gylfi Sigurdsson (AM partner with Gerrard) - 7m

2. Keita/Jordy Clasie (CM as backup for Lucas..Clasie can also play with Lucas) - free/8m

3. Theo Walcott ( FW..last year of his contract..liverpool fan..right side of the front 3) - 10m

4. Luuk De jong/Andre Schurle/Huntelaar ( ST as backup or compete Carroll for 1st 11) - 10-15m???



players i would get rid off...

1. Charlie Adam (not fit with Rodgers game plan..slow & lazy) - sell 5m

2. Aquaman (woud love to see him here..but his heart isnt) - sell 6m

3. Jay Spearing (good player but not at the level we want) - sell 3m
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 6 2012, 10:52 AM)
players i would like us to sign...

1. Gylfi Sigurdsson (AM partner with Gerrard) - 7m

2. Keita/Jordy Clasie (CM as backup for Lucas..Clasie can also play with Lucas) - free/8m

3. Theo Walcott ( FW..last year of his contract..liverpool fan..right side of the front 3) - 10m

4. Luuk De jong/Andre Schurle/Huntelaar ( ST as backup or compete Carroll for 1st 11) - 10-15m???
players i would get rid off...

1. Charlie Adam (not fit with Rodgers game plan..slow & lazy) - sell 5m

2. Aquaman (woud love to see him here..but his heart isnt) - sell 6m

3. Jay Spearing (good player but not at the level we want) - sell 3m
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Look like can suit that "modest budget"... brows.gif IF it is the correct figure...
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Look like can suit that "modest budget"...  brows.gif  IF it is the correct figure...
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we can only assume..but the first one should be correct..as long as Hoffenheim dont change coz its liverpool sweat.gif
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Gylfi Sigurdsson has told Icelandic newspaper Morgunblaðið that he does not expect to stay at Swansea City next season.

The 22 year-old midfielder says he would have liked to continue his career at the Liberty Stadium as he enjoyed it, but admits he's unsure where his future lies due to Brendan Rodgers' move to Liverpool. He also says a move to Swansea City is unlikely now due to him not knowing who the manager will be, as they still seek a replacement for the Irishman.

Sigurdsson said:

''It's just unclear at this moment where I come to a play. I'd like to play on with Swansea since I was really happy there, but after Brendan Rodgers left the club for Liverpool changed the situation for it,''

He also says he'd consider a move to Liverpool but he hasn't talked to Rodgers about a move to Anfield.

''I have said that my desire to continue playing in the Premier League and Liverpool is completely considered. Liverpool is a big club that has a glorious history. English Premier League is the platform that I want to be and hopefully is that I continue to play in that division.

I expect not to stay at Swansea as the uncertainty going on there and not clear who is boss,''

In response to a question asking if he had talks with Rodgers about joining him at Liverpool, Sigurdsson added:

''No, but I got in touch with him when he was appointed Liverpool manager. I wish him congratulations and thanked him for a great time at Swansea,''.


Read more: http://www.swansea.vitalfootball.co.uk/art...5#ixzz1wyoyD7GF
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After watching Gylfi Sigurdsson, i am reminded of Steviie

Except for tackling, he .....shoots from distance....foraging runs to box......scores from freekicks
They look the same build as well


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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 6 2012, 10:52 AM)
players i would like us to sign...

1. Gylfi Sigurdsson (AM partner with Gerrard) - 7m

2. Keita/Jordy Clasie (CM as backup for Lucas..Clasie can also play with Lucas) - free/8m

3. Theo Walcott ( FW..last year of his contract..liverpool fan..right side of the front 3) - 10m

4. Luuk De jong/Andre Schurle/Huntelaar ( ST as backup or compete Carroll for 1st 11) - 10-15m???
players i would get rid off...

1. Charlie Adam (not fit with Rodgers game plan..slow & lazy) - sell 5m

2. Aquaman (woud love to see him here..but his heart isnt) - sell 6m

3. Jay Spearing (good player but not at the level we want) - sell 3m
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Nice.....

Is Keita free? Many will want him.
i rather Affelay than Walcott.

Not sure of Schurle? Whos he? YOu wont get Hunter for 10mil......

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 6 2012, 11:27 AM)
After watching Gylfi Sigurdsson, i am reminded of Steviie

Except for tackling, he .....shoots from distance....foraging runs to box......scores from freekicks
They look the same build as well


Added on June 6, 2012, 11:29 am
Nice.....

Is Keita free?  Many will want him.
i rather Affelay than Walcott.

Not sure of Schurle? Whos he? YOu wont get Hunter for 10mil......
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Schurle played for Leverkusen...the club where Hyypia is biggrin.gif
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Didn't Diame said his transfer to Liverpool broke down after Kenny was sacked ? Can't remember where i read it.
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Didn't Diame said his transfer to Liverpool broke down after Kenny was sacked ? Can't remember where i read it.
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Chelsea's signings controlled by DoF whilst DoF controlled by Abramovich. So I guess its not one-man lol. Just hope your impending manager won't discard them like Mourinho did with Shevchenko.


Added on June 6, 2012, 1:13 pmSchurle is rated very highly, definitely 20-30 mil pounds

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why sell spearing? you can't get much of value with his transfer fee, and his salary is probably peanuts compared to the rest.
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I believe Gylfi Sigurdsson definitely in !
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I believe Gylfi Sigurdsson definitely in !
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Adam Johnson or Affelay plz...
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there's something i've always wanted to ask re. downing's double zero... (since everyone is using it as a giant bat to belittle his selection laugh.gif), does anyone has the stats for chances created instead? seems unfair to merely use assists... you could play the perfect pass to say Carragher in front of the opponent's (in b4 someone jokes about him and own goals) goal, and in all likelihood Carragher will sky it, hence no assist?

or am i mistaken?
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solstice surely gonna be happy..still remember not long ago he/she wanted Gylfi laugh.gif
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Adam Johnson or Affelay plz...
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Personally fancy Afellay too. He's very tricky yet offer great teamwork with his passes and always have an eye for goals.

If we can lure Afellay from Barcelona, that's a really great job from the scouts & recruit team. Well, we can only dream. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 6 2012, 04:18 PM)
Personally fancy Afellay too. He's very tricky yet offer great teamwork with his passes and always have an eye for goals.

If we can lure Afellay from Barcelona, that's a really great job from the scouts & recruit team. Well, we can only dream.  tongue.gif
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Since Brendan Rodgers only have limited fund for transfer, will he scout hidden talent that require a little polish and he will be a star types of player..?

Does any1 still remember that Liv are the 1st one to spotted C.Ronaldo when he is still young, that is why Liv doesn't have the guts to invest on a young boy, then later he joined Man.U.. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 6 2012, 05:07 PM)
Wrong, she wans Insua back........
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Since Brendan Rodgers only have limited fund for transfer, will he scout hidden talent that require a little polish and he will be a star types of player..?

Does any1 still remember that Liv are the 1st one to spotted C.Ronaldo when he is still young, that is why Liv doesn't have the guts to invest on a young boy, then later he joined Man.U.. ohmy.gif
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Yeah, Houllier spotted him first before Fergie. Gave up the chance to sign him due to wage scale.
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and Insua's speed burst is faster, i presumed.......

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Yeah, Houllier spotted him first before Fergie. Gave up the chance to sign him due to wage scale.
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to her, Insua is nice to hug and hold cause Insua is shorter........ thumbup.gif

and Insua's speed burst is faster, i presumed.......

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 6 2012, 04:03 PM)
there's something i've always wanted to ask re. downing's double zero... (since everyone is using it as a giant bat to belittle his selection laugh.gif), does anyone has the stats for chances created instead? seems unfair to merely use assists... you could play the perfect pass to say Carragher in front of the opponent's (in b4 someone jokes about him and own goals) goal, and in all likelihood Carragher will sky it, hence no assist?

or am i mistaken?
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...ost-lfc-chances

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The data makes interesting reading. Here's a list of our top 10 chance creators in the 2011-12 Barclays Premier League (minutes played in brackets).

1. Luis Suarez - 61 (2,556)
2. Stewart Downing - 55 (2,477)
3. Charlie Adam - 47 (2,175)
4. Dirk Kuyt - 40 (2,002)
5. Andy Carroll - 40 (2,065)
6. Jose Enrique - 34 (2,992)
7. Craig Bellamy - 32 (1,241)
8. Jordan Henderson - 31 (2,663)
9. Steven Gerrard - 27 (1,212)
10. Glen Johnson - 22 (1,952)


I can think of a few instances where Downing delivers a great cross only for Carroll to miss spectacularly. laugh.gif

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Wrong, she wans Insua back........
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One of my friends met Stevie, Andy and Jordan at Liverpool Lime Street yesterday.

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http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/index.php?a...ioma=in&co=1613

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YWNA Dirk 18 Kuyt!
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Clarke leaves!
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Clarke leaves!
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QUOTE(Adryan @ Jun 6 2012, 10:26 PM)
One of my friends met Stevie, Andy and Jordan at Liverpool Lime Street yesterday.

I'm so jealous.
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wth..no ppl told me bout that ..I am now in liverpool..how I wish I could meet them , especially stevie coz I dont get the chance last year when he is not coming =(

do you have any pictures to share ?
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Even Kevin Keen has left.

Thank you Steve Clarke for everything you have done here. The defence greatly improved ever since his arrival and for a very poor Premier League season by our standards and the fact that Pepe Reina had a bad time in goal, it's amazing we were still joint 3rd best defence in the league.

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wth..no ppl told me bout that ..I am now in liverpool..how I wish I could meet them , especially stevie coz I dont get the chance last year when he is not coming =(

do you have any pictures to share ?
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I'm wondering where Glen Johnson, Stewart Downing and Martin Kelly as I assumed they'd all had left Liverpool together.
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QUOTE(Adryan @ Jun 7 2012, 06:21 AM)
Even Kevin Keen has left.

Thank you Steve Clarke for everything you have done here. The defence greatly improved ever since his arrival and for a very poor Premier League season by our standards and the fact that Pepe Reina had a bad time in goal, it's amazing we were still joint 3rd best defence in the league.

All the best for the future, both Steve and Kevin.
Well .. I stole it off his Facebook but I'm going to shade his face out LOL

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I'm wondering where Glen Johnson, Stewart Downing and Martin Kelly as I assumed they'd all had left Liverpool together.
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Liverpool players all so good looking... biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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Liverpool players all so good looking... biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif
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omai im jelly with those pic..
its one of my dreams to meet em sad.gif

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it is good for kuyt and liverpool

i think we will get sigurdson. hope we will get winger and left back too..or right back..
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These idiots need to be smacked in the head with a baseball bat.After all the trouble and controversy this SOB can come up with this doh.gif
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this issue again. dont think anything wrong with it.
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I've got a question for those who think adam and downing will come good next season.What is your reasoning for that and what if they turn out the same as last season?
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 7 2012, 04:16 PM)
I've got a question for those who think adam and downing will come good next season.What is your reasoning for that and what if they turn out the same as last season?
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when we can have more possession and make good use of it, thus giving them less defensive works.
but we'll see how hard the team gonna be pressing w/o the ball since BR stated hard work is an obligation for him, not a choice. tongue.gif

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I jsut realised this, I share the same birthday with Brendan Rodgers  drool.gif
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BR also share the same birth date with Mourinho.
So when are you gonna move into football managing field? biggrin.gif

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BR also share the same birth date with Mourinho.
So when are you gonna move into football managing field? biggrin.gif
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I've got a question for those who think adam and downing will come good next season.What is your reasoning for that and what if they turn out the same as last season?
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as someone has already posted.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...ost-lfc-chances

so yea, look beyond the actual stats, and see all the chances they created.
then decide who to blame again, adam and also downing for not having any assists, or the toothless attack for not being able to convert them? as well as hitting the woodwork everywhere? and which in LFC history IIRC ranks this team as the 3rd lowest ever scoring since formation in 1892.
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I believe Joe Cole will benefit under the management of BR. Hopefully we can get Aquilani here too to make the best from his tactics.
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We are eyeing for Dempsey as well. Good goal poacher and available at 4 mil??

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your fren studying there now? coz I was under tarc summer programme as well now..in LJMU..so bad I dont get the chance to meet the players
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He's not studying there but I think his sister is cause he said he's just visiting his sister.

Well, you could hang around Cafe Sports England and Carragher is bound to appear there! I met him there once.
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somebody told me Mohamed Diame is already on the way to Liverpool? rumors?

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somebody told me Mohamed Diame is already on the way to Liverpool? rumors?
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He's not studying there but I think his sister is cause he said he's just visiting his sister.

Well, you could hang around Cafe Sports England and Carragher is bound to appear there! I met him there once.
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Maxi Rodriguez has left Liverpool & re-signed for his old club Newell's Old Boys.

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Thursday’s LFC Transfer Rumours: Sigurdsson latest and £16m Johnson swoop
By This Is Anfield On June 7, 2012 · 81 Comments · In LFC News
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Liverpool could be set to swoop for Icelandic midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson after negotiations over his proposed £6.8million move to Swansea City broke down.

New Reds boss Brendan Rodgers was set to sign Sigurdsson after an impressive loan spell at the Liberty Stadium, but the deal is set to have been put on hold following Rodgers’ move to Liverpool.

Now Rodgers is keen to steal the highly-rated 22-year-old from under the noses of his former club, and Sigurðsson himself has now opened the door to a move to Anfield.

“It’s just unclear at this moment where I will play,” he told mbl.is in his homeland.

“I expect not to stay at Swansea because of the uncertainty going on there as it is not clear who is boss.

“I have said that my desire to continue playing in the Premier League and Liverpool is completely considered.

“Liverpool is a big club that has a glorious history.

“English Premier League is the platform that I want to be and hopefully is that I continue to play in that division.”

He added, “I got in touch with Brendan when he was appointed Liverpool manager.
“I wish him congratulations and thanked him for a great time at Swansea.”

Meanwhile, the Reds have been linked once again with Manchester City winger Adam Johnson and a £16million bid could be on the cards, according to Caught Offside.

Johnson has struggled to claim a Man City first team place as their squad has been built with the cream of European footballing talent.

But Rodgers may see him as a great replacement for Dirk Kuyt, who left for Turkish club Fenerbahce earlier this week after six years at the club.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 5 2012, 09:45 PM)
Man U have Kagawa

Arsenal have Podolski

Chelsea have Hazard

Liverpool ?????
ManU have Kagawa AND Luka-Modric

Arsenal have Podolski

Chelsea have Hazard, linked with Hulk (favoured)

Liverpool linked to gylfi sigurdsson, adam johnson

Man City haven't lifted the cheque book yet



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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 8 2012, 04:05 AM)
Thursday’s LFC Transfer Rumours: Sigurdsson latest and £16m Johnson swoop
By This Is Anfield On June 7, 2012 · 81 Comments · In LFC News
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Liverpool could be set to swoop for Icelandic midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson after negotiations over his proposed £6.8million move to Swansea City broke down.

New Reds boss Brendan Rodgers was set to sign Sigurdsson after an impressive loan spell at the Liberty Stadium, but the deal is set to have been put on hold following Rodgers’ move to Liverpool.

Now Rodgers is keen to steal the highly-rated 22-year-old from under the noses of his former club, and Sigurðsson himself has now opened the door to a move to Anfield.

“It’s just unclear at this moment where I will play,” he told mbl.is in his homeland.

“I expect not to stay at Swansea because of the uncertainty going on there as it is not clear who is boss.

“I have said that my desire to continue playing in the Premier League and Liverpool is completely considered.

“Liverpool is a big club that has a glorious history.

“English Premier League is the platform that I want to be and hopefully is that I continue to play in that division.”

He added, “I got in touch with Brendan when he was appointed Liverpool manager.
“I wish him congratulations and thanked him for a great time at Swansea.”

Meanwhile, the Reds have been linked once again with Manchester City winger Adam Johnson and a £16million bid could be on the cards, according to Caught Offside.

Johnson has struggled to claim a Man City first team place as their squad has been built with the cream of European footballing talent.

But Rodgers may see him as a great replacement for Dirk Kuyt, who left for Turkish club Fenerbahce earlier this week after six years at the club.
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man city basically dont need any more signings and can enjoy for many years to come. kudos to spending and reaping rewards
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man city basically dont need any more signings and can enjoy for many years to come. kudos to spending and reaping rewards
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They don't need, but it doesn't mean they don't want. icon_idea.gif

Dzeko, Tevez, Johnson or Balotelli anyone? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jun 8 2012, 09:49 AM)
They don't need, but it doesn't mean they don't want. icon_idea.gif

Dzeko, Tevez, Johnson or Balotelli anyone? biggrin.gif
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Adam Johnson & Glen Johnson combo down the right flank..... sounds good
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Added on June 8, 2012, 10:33 amWhat I would really like to see would be a midfield trio of Lucas, Henderson and this fella we are supposed to be stealing away from Swansea. Under BR it'll probably be crisp short passes and nifty movement from one end to another!

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 8 2012, 10:30 AM)
Sounds like a defensive disaster!


Added on June 8, 2012, 10:33 amWhat I would really like to see would be a midfield trio of Lucas, Henderson and this fella we are supposed to be stealing away from Swansea. Under BR it'll probably be crisp short passes and nifty movement from one end to another!
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 8 2012, 10:30 AM)
Sounds like a defensive disaster!


Added on June 8, 2012, 10:33 amWhat I would really like to see would be a midfield trio of Lucas, Henderson and this fella we are supposed to be stealing away from Swansea. Under BR it'll probably be crisp short passes and nifty movement from one end to another!
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well cruyff did say that he would have played kuyt at RB biggrin.gif

anyway am sure with the right instructions and discipline, that flank can work out just fine. plus, BR's tactics also include covering for each other and we are in the market for speedy and crafty wingers dont we?
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jun 8 2012, 09:49 AM)
They don't need, but it doesn't mean they don't want. icon_idea.gif

Dzeko, Tevez, Johnson or Balotelli anyone? biggrin.gif
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Adam Johnson has always been slated by Mancini for not playing to instructions, not adhering to tactics and not working hard enough for the team. So he work ethic and work rate can be questioned. Applying this to BR's high pressure passing football? Will Johnson be willing to close down all over the field like Kuyt did? Will he be willing to pass the ball instead of performing a one man show down the flanks? Glen and Adam Johnson sounds like a defensive calamity to me.

Big talent no doubt, have always admired his playing style. A true winger, with flair and dribbling ability, stark contrast to Downing, the last one we had was probably Riera or Pennant for similarities sake in terms of attitude lol. He worked at City with Micah at right back, will it work for us?

Could be a decent signing if the fee is right and his wages at City could be very high for even a role player like him, will he be willing to accept lower wages and come to a club that is not challenging the title, no CL, no star players?
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man city basically dont need any more signings and can enjoy for many years to come. kudos to spending and reaping rewards
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I don't know about reaping rewards. They made a nett loss despite winning the Premiership because they pay players more than they earn. This will come to bite them in the ass during the 2013-2014 season as according to a Deloitte representitive, teams who don't abide by Financial Fairplay during that season will be banned from UEFA sanctioned tournaments.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 8 2012, 10:44 AM)
well cruyff did say that he would have played kuyt at RB biggrin.gif

anyway am sure with the right instructions and discipline, that flank can work out just fine. plus, BR's tactics also include covering for each other and we are in the market for speedy and crafty wingers dont we?
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we not aiming for a striker?
please we really need one!!!
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Sky Sports understands Liverpool's move for free agent midfielder Mohamed Diame is back on.


Mohamed Diame: Free agent
Diame, who played at Wigan in the 2011/12 season, is one of the top Bosmans around this summer and a host of clubs are after the Senegal international.

The move appeared to have collapsed following the sacking of former Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish.
However, new manager Brendan Rodgers has given the green light for the deal, as he is a big fan of the midfielder.

Liverpool could face competition from Aston Villa for Diame, with Paul Lambert keen to sign him after taking over at Villa Park.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 8 2012, 12:26 PM)
Adam Johnson has always been slated by Mancini for not playing to instructions, not adhering to tactics and not working hard enough for the team. So he work ethic and work rate can be questioned. Applying this to BR's high pressure passing football? Will Johnson be willing to close down all over the field like Kuyt did? Will he be willing to pass the ball instead of performing a one man show down the flanks? Glen and Adam Johnson sounds like a defensive calamity to me.

Big talent no doubt, have always admired his playing style. A true winger, with flair and dribbling ability, stark contrast to Downing, the last one we had was probably Riera or Pennant for similarities sake in terms of attitude lol. He worked at City with Micah at right back, will it work for us?

Could be a decent signing if the fee is right and his wages at City could be very high for even a role player like him, will he be willing to accept lower wages and come to a club that is not challenging the title, no CL, no star players?
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Good post. I agree i don;t really rate Johnson myself. Flash of brilliance but other than that, he's very quiet in most games. If we're gonna go by potential then might as well just stick with Raheem whose already on our payroll. If we're going to spend some money on a new winger then it simply has to be better than potential.
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Good post. I agree i don;t really rate Johnson myself. Flash of brilliance but other than that, he's very quiet in most games. If we're gonna go by potential then might as well just stick with Raheem whose already on our payroll. If we're going to spend some money on a new winger then it simply has to be better than potential.
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Not sure why we are after so many English player? Don't tell me they are serious about building an English version of Barca?
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I don't know about reaping rewards. They made a nett loss despite winning the Premiership because they pay players more than they earn. This will come to bite them in the ass during the 2013-2014 season as according to a Deloitte representitive, teams who don't abide by Financial Fairplay during that season will be banned from UEFA sanctioned tournaments.
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I dont know why we are going after Diame. He was said to have some health problem in regards with heart. You can google up.
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I dont know why we are going after Diame. He was said to have some health problem in regards with heart. You can google up.
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yeah. heart problem. but he could be a great addition to the team, as a backup DM, for free smile.gif

According to one of the post in anfieldforum,

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Despite only making 18 starts in the 11/12 season, Diame made more tackles (84) than Kompany (65), Terry (56), Cole (80) and Zabaleta (70).

Kompany and Terry and Cole all made 31 appearances in the league.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 8 2012, 01:54 PM)
Good post. I agree i don;t really rate Johnson myself. Flash of brilliance but other than that, he's very quiet in most games. If we're gonna go by potential then might as well just stick with Raheem whose already on our payroll. If we're going to spend some money on a new winger then it simply has to be better than potential.
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I think johnson isn't consistent but it is the moments of brilliance that we need.When torres played for us he looked like he was doing nothing,but when he gets a chance the next thing you know the ball is in the back of the net.


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I think johnson isn't consistent but it is the moments of brilliance that we need.When torres played for us he looked like he was doing nothing,but when he gets a chance the next thing you know the ball is in the back of the net.
Torres was a world class striker for us - scored all manner of goals. I'm not sure A. Johnson can ever reach that kind of level and even the City fans are saying that he's very inconsistent and predictable to boot. Squad player maybe, but key player ? I think we can and must do better than Johnson.
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In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.

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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jun 8 2012, 04:17 PM)
yeah. heart problem. but he could be a great addition to the team, as a backup DM, for free smile.gif

According to one of the post in anfieldforum,

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Despite only making 18 starts in the 11/12 season, Diame made more tackles (84) than Kompany (65), Terry (56), Cole (80) and Zabaleta (70).

Kompany and Terry and Cole all made 31 appearances in the league.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 8 2012, 05:57 PM)
In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.
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With his Bolton contract expiring in the summer, Cahill is aware he can get a big deal – but Chelsea have told the defender to get real. They are prepared to give him £70,000 a week, which is still more than summer signing Juan Mata.


I'm not sure..u refering to £80000 or $80,000..

but Mata wages less than £70,000.. thumbup.gif

Downing wages : Source

Mata wages : Source

I think every club preparing for FFP..people might see Chelsea spend big..but we already release most of the high earners since the last 3 seasons...the highest at chelsea now if i'm not mistaken 150,000 JT, Lampard and maybe Torres..that also the reason why we refuse to sign Aguero..the bid was accepted but the wages demand 200,000... laugh.gif Hazard and a few others signing that we might sign..most of the resources come from UCL prize money and television revenue...

we also close to breakeven our account this season..first since roman era hahahaha biggrin.gif all because of the UCL..without them..yes we might have a big problem preparing for FFP..

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Well Deloitte listed a nett loss regardless of who earns more or less. Point is all clubs need to adjust their wage bills. Think you're right on Mata. He doesn't earn all that much.
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Liverpool midfielder Stewart Downing has admitted he felt embarrassed after he ended his debut season at Anfield without scoring.

Downing's disappointment was compounded further, as the 27-year-old was also unable to manage an assist in a year that the £20million man would rather forget.

Signed by Kenny Dalglish last summer, Downing was expected to provide strike duo Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez with the ammunition to fire Liverpool into the higher echelons of the Premier League.


But such success was nothing more than a pipe dream, and Downing has now turned his attention towards rediscovering his best form at the European Championships with England.

The former Aston Villa winger was the only outfield player to feature in all nine England games in 2011, playing in two out of three matches this year for the Three Lions.

And, despite his poor form, Downing is in contention to start the Group D opener against France on Monday.

Speaking to Sky Sports, Downing said: "The fact is I didn't get enough goals.

"I hit the post and the bar many times and missed a few chances so I was disappointed, especially when I scored goals for Aston Villa the year before.

"Sometimes you are on a run and get goals; sometimes you don't. I try to score and maybe next season I will get 10 or 15. Football is like that. But I am disappointed I did not score enough."

Whilst Downing admits to being embarrassed about his lack of goals and assists for Liverpool this season, he insists that too much should not be read into statistics, as they can prove to be misleading.

"Statistics have taken over the game: he doesn't score this, he hasn't set up that. You can read into it as you like," he said. "I've constantly set up chances, season in and season out.

"I can't be criticised for not creating. I've just been unlucky that we've not finished the chances."

Liverpool's season was equally disappointing, as Dalglish's side stumbled to an eighth-place finish with their home form particularly concerning.

Yet, following the late introductions of Jordan Henderson and Martin Kelly, the Reds supply six members of Roy Hodgson's England squad - almost a third of the outfield men.

But Downing is quick to defend his under-fire teammates. He added: "I don't think those six players did that bad - just that, as a whole group, we were not clinical enough. It's all about personal opinions.

"If there were eight Manchester United players in the team and they didn't win the league, would people be asking why they are here?

"As players we have to be mentally strong and concentrate on the good bits of our games because the manager has seen something that shows why we've been picked."

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 8 2012, 04:57 PM)
In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.
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is the financial fairplay is on, man city and chelsea will sell their stadium name to get balance of their cashflow. just like man city stadium now which is Etihad stadium. they will find a way to balance their account.
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Liverpool must pay almost £9m if they want to sign Lyon full-back Aly Cissokho.

The former Porto star has long been linked with a move to Anfield, and after Jose Enrique's mixed first season at the club there are rumours that Liverpool could make another bid for the left-back.

And Lyon are willing to sell, but not for much less than the £12.18m than they spent to buy the player from Porto in 2009.

And in a statement Lyon claimed that they will not accept any bid lower than £9m - and with Napoli also keen Liverpool have a decision to make if they are to bring Cissokho to the club.

talkSPORT understands that Newcastle and Everton are also interested in the France international, with the Toffees set to make a move should Leighton Baines leave Goodison Park for Manchester United this summer.


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Thanks mate.

Hopefully the rule comes on sooner than later.
The shieks, Ruskie oil mafias are killing the beautiful game with corruption.
But then again, UEFA maybe pressured by these goons.
QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jun 9 2012, 10:19 AM)
is the financial fairplay is on, man city and chelsea will sell their stadium name to get balance of their cashflow. just like man city stadium now which is Etihad stadium. they will find a way to balance their account.
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That they will but without a period of sustained success, you won't build a large enough fanbase for a consistent flow of income. Even if you want to flog off your naming rights to your stadium, you need to ensure that people see and hear of it. Sponsors will only invest big if you are commercially viable. Standard Chartered and Warrior sports were quick to swoop when we opened our arms and parted ways with Carlsberg and Adidas because we are still amongst the most commercially attractive clubs in the world with a huge fanbase despite being shadowed by the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal over a decade at least. I'm still baffled as to how Adidas could claim that we were asking for too much when we sell the 4th highest number of jerseys in the world behind Barca, Real and the mancs.

Some people say it's all about profit these days but is it really? I mean Man City have made a net loss and so have the likes of Chelsea. Still, they won trophies. If the top brass at say Chelsea owned Arsenal, would Wenger still be there? They may not have won any silverware in a few years but they have never been in the red financially and are consistenly in the top four. Even so, would not winning any silverware for 7-8 years be tolerated at Man City or Chelsea?

As fans, we celebrate and gloat when we beat or rivals in a game or to the title. Isn't it of some concern however that this form of success could be shortlived when you are in the red each year? Is it better to win titles and know that if your owner decides he's had enough of his play thing and wants to move on to something new, he'd drop you with massive debt, OR is it better to always be financially healthy and be content with challenging for a top four spot? Are the two even mutually exclusive?
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Some people say it's all about profit these days but is it really? I mean Man City have made a net loss and so have the likes of Chelsea. Still, they won trophies. If the top brass at say Chelsea owned Arsenal, would Wenger still be there? They may not have won any silverware in a few years but they have never been in the red financially and are consistenly in the top four. Even so, would not winning any silverware for 7-8 years be tolerated at Man City or Chelsea?
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Wages bill is not cheap as well.
With 120 million pounds, despite not many super star players. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...se-7715141.html

A lot of club are running at loss which is not something healthy, only a handful is making a profit, one of them is Arsenal.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 8 2012, 04:57 PM)
In short, clubs cannot spend more than they earn. Clubs like City and Chelsea pay exuberant wages and have suffered net losses despite winning silverware.

Here are a couple of articles, one of which I posted earlier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...ue-survey-wages

Note that like Man Utd, we've reduced our wage bill tremendously. This explains why we didn't sign mega stars last year and why we won't this year. There is constantly talk over signing Downing over Mata. While I do admit that Downing has had a poor season, the reason behind signing him instead of Mata could be down to wages. Downing commands around $80,000 from what I know and I imagine Mata gets a fair bit more than that.
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hmmm... season 13-14 aint that far away. wonder how the likes of man city and chelsea are going about it. will this clash with any labor law in europe?
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That was one of the reasons KD have to go ironically........
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I don't recall having any of our board members mentioning KD has to go because of wages. They did spesifically point out the position of the league for him to part company with the club. But wages?
You smokin' something?
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And Alonso, who left Anfield in 2009 after five years at the club, took time out to declare his optimism about the Reds' future with new man Rodgers at the helm.

"I think that everyone is really optimistic about the new manager," he told Goal.com. "As far as I knew, he was one of the ones who was going to be approached. As a Liverpool fan it gives me hope for the future."
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When Netherlands vs Denmark, the stadium announcer pronounce Dirk Kuyt as Dirk Cute....hahahaha
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 10 2012, 12:59 PM)
I don't recall having any of our board members mentioning KD has to go because of wages. They did spesifically point out the position of the league for him to part company with the club. But wages?
You smokin' something?
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John Henry feel that KD recruitment does not justify the salary paid to them, esp Downing, hence the grapes turned soured........btw, i am a non smoker icon_rolleyes.gif

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John Henry feel that KD recruitment does not justify the salary paid to them, esp Downing, hence the grapes turned soured........btw, i am a non smoker  icon_rolleyes.gif

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I'm interested to know which source stated that, because that should also mean if Brendan Rodgers sign the wrong person for the wrong wages, he would also get the sack?

The one person who would overpay the players to keep them was Rafa. At the very least the board members acknowledged that after Rafa parted company with TH&GG.
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Did anyone watch the spain italy match? Jesus navas was pure class.Now that's someone who is worth a 20million price tag and 80k per week.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 9 2012, 08:59 AM)
Downing earning more than mata shocking.gif

Thanks alot kenny rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 10 2012, 10:31 PM)
I'm interested to know which source stated that, because that should also mean if Brendan Rodgers sign the wrong person for the wrong wages, he would also get the sack?

The one person who would overpay the players to keep them was Rafa. At the very least the board members acknowledged that after Rafa parted company with TH&GG.
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Rafa brought us the likes of Alonso, Arbeloa, Torres, Garcia, and many more. I don't think overpaying is really the issue with Rafa
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How did Rafa overpay when most of his players sold for profit?
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thank god pool doesnt stick wif rafa anymore....
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After Euro2012, Rafa would be name Spain Manager to replace Vincente De Bosco , hence his reunion with Torres and Company........
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 11 2012, 12:55 PM)
Rafa brought us the likes of Alonso, Arbeloa, Torres, Garcia, and many more. I don't think overpaying is really the issue with Rafa
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I think what some may mean is a number of players came to Liverpool then (lesser pay) because of Rafa. With the key player proving their mettle, Rafa 'fought' for higher wages to the deserving ones to retain them. I think this was well documented.

Of course some felt this only 'help' the overall wages to bulge. Fact is there will be players coming in & out and not all will hit off. But Rafa was keen to retain the good ones, shipped & sell those who don't make the mark.

It's the same for any other clubs, though somehow the spotlight was always on how Rafa "failed" with players, never about the success. On the transfer issue, I think somewhere highlighted the combine fees (brought in) for reina, lucas + few key fellas amounted to 22million pounds. (discount the heavy weights transfers of Torres from atletico etc)
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Speaking of Rafa, you guys should check out his blog - he's doing some Euro coverage. Very interesting stuff, his previews seem really spot on and well articulated.
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Been a frequent reader of Rafa's blog. Very meticulous and obsessed with stats and numbers. Very good read indeed.

Didn't really get on how Rafa overpay his players. If the players proofs his worth then salary increased is something what the players expected in return. This way we could make them stay.
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Well somebody insinuated that KD got the sack because he overpaid British players, and so the retort was simple, will BR get the sack for overpaying players too? We know that Suarez got an extension and pay rise, we knew Torres did, Reina did. So are these "pay rises and extensions" (basically we're just overpaying to retain loyalty) going to cost our manager his job? We all know how Rafa held on to his best players with pay rises unless a good deal came by.

All because somebody insinuated KD got the sack for overpaying players.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jun 11 2012, 09:35 AM)
someone forget damien comolli... blink.gif
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Comolli wanted mata.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3774/the-sw...-liverpools-buy

End of debate.
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But who negotiated the contract ? and who agreed to pay those wages ? It's not a debate because none of us know the full details.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
maybe Kenny did prefer Downing but the fact that Comolli is the one did all the negotiations making him responsible on signings too.

Then again, no one outside the higher ups of club management knew the details so its never a debate after all. Plus, its goal.com, i wouldnt believe anything from there.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 11 2012, 05:21 PM)
But who negotiated the contract ? and who agreed to pay those wages ? It's not a debate because none of us know the full details.
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Ok la.None of it is dalglish fault.He hasn't made any mistakes.Good day.
Downing should be contender for world player of the year if he gets lucky next season.

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You are just arguing with yourself. No one here is saying Kenny is blameless, there were numerous of people who screwed up. From the chief scout to the manager - down to the player himself who underachieved on the pitch. You always champion the idea of moving forward, so how about we stop moaning and complaining about past failures. It's just tiresome.
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I think no one deny KD makes mistakes but to say that DC is a saint is definitely a no no for me.
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did we bid for sturridge?
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 11 2012, 05:30 PM)
Ok la.None of it is dalglish fault.He hasn't made any mistakes.Good day.
Downing should be contender for world player of the year if he gets lucky next season.
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I think we did made an offer for Sturridge but it got turned down.
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Stevens believes Schalke have every chance of tempting 26-year-old Kalou too, despite interest from Liverpool.

He said: 'Kalou is a Bosman player this summer.

'It’s obvious; there are many other clubs keen on him. Liverpool for example.

'But I know for sure he wants to move away from England. This could be our chance.'
I see what BR trying to do there but well, we got no CL laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Chill out guys, now is Euro time...
So tonight match, will there be any Liverpool players that will score..? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 11 2012, 08:44 PM)
Chill out guys, now is Euro time...
So tonight match, will there be any Liverpool players that will score..? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jun 11 2012, 08:46 PM)
Let's not even talk about scoring, can they avoid defeat?  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Let's not even talk about scoring, can they avoid defeat?  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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I am not rooting for England, i am Germany all the way.. haha thumbup.gif
Even if England lose, will there be any Liverpool player that will score..? any prediction..? drool.gif

Btw, BPL keeper all sucks in this Euro..Cech..Given..Szczęsny..haha
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Can't wait to see the faces of the moaners when either one of Carroll, Johnson, Henderson, Kelly or Downing scores a winning goal. Highly unlikely but just for lulz.
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Cmon Ingurrlaaand! Everyone has written them off, with good reasons no doubt but it might just work wonders for them. They're kinda underdogs of the competition.
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France vs Liverpool is trending right now on my facebook. LOL!!
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 11 2012, 10:29 PM)
France vs Liverpool is trending right now on my facebook. LOL!!
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Jun 11 2012, 10:32 PM)
lol thought it was twitter
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Same thing, different name.

well, i hope one of the guys can score at least one tonight. Maybe Woy still thinks he's in charge of Liverpool biggrin.gif

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Martin Kelly ruled out with a virus.
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all man city players involved.

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Ashley Young very easy fall down..
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Glenny was instrumental!
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Typical uncle woy formation, 9 at the back, one lonely striker up front tongue.gif Wellbeck was really isolated everytime there was a counter attack.
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This Ingerlund team is one of the worst in memory.
It also boasts of the worst strikeforce in the last 30 years or so.

Apart from Rooney, the rest are just to make up the numbers.
They ARE really gash......


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kalou next? lol.

Anyway, €15m LFC wing target confirms: 'I will leave' Italy this summer. Replace Downing?
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Yesterday match it should be Wellback CF and Young SS, but throughout the match its Young who wait in front and Wellback behind him to get the ball.
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QUOTE(4ddict @ Jun 12 2012, 01:51 AM)
roy really want the draw lol...
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did anyone watch ukraine vs sweden? voronin play like he's not 33.. and really dangerous..
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QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Jun 12 2012, 08:40 AM)
This Elia guy reminds me of Babel. Similar right footed left winger style with extra flair and dribbling skills rclxms.gif

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15 million for Elia? No thanks. I say no more than 9.
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QUOTE(zickey @ Jun 12 2012, 06:04 PM)
did anyone watch ukraine vs sweden? voronin play like he's not 33.. and really dangerous..
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did anyone watch ukraine vs sweden? shevchenko plays like he's worth 30+ million...
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33 is still young in grand scheme of things. I'm watching Malaysia vs Singapore now, there's a 41 year old player lol.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 12 2012, 08:49 PM)
33 is still young in grand scheme of things. I'm watching Malaysia vs Singapore now, there's a 41 year old player lol.
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Sigurdsson looks great when he play for Swansea, hope he can repeat the same performance for us
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 13 2012, 04:08 PM)
Sigurdsson looks great when he play for Swansea, hope he can repeat the same performance for us
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if BR sees fits of Sigurdsson with his system, why not? He's young, relatively proven & certainly would not cost us a bomb for the transfer fee & wages.

Furthermore, BR did work with Sigurdsson before. smile.gif

We badly need some goal scoring midfields...


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Read that Suso is wanted by Bristol city on loan. Good loan move, time for the young lad to develop his game even further.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jun 13 2012, 05:12 PM)
if BR sees fits of Sigurdsson with his system, why not?  He's young, relatively proven & certainly would not cost us a bomb for the transfer fee & wages.

Furthermore, BR did work with Sigurdsson before. smile.gif

We badly need some goal scoring midfields...
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i like his long-range shooting ability biggrin.gif

btw, found this on twitter,

Anfield Index ‏@AnfieldIndex
Only Bellamy (SA 52% CC 19%) & Gerrard (SA 52% CC 24%) have better Chance Conversion (CC) rate than Gylfi (SA 52% CC 16%). Shot Accuracy(SA)

Anfield Index ‏@AnfieldIndex
What’s impressive is that Gylfi created 50 chances = one every 29.98 mins. Only Mata, Silva, Malouda, Nasri and Adam Johnson are better. Bellamy topped in #LFC squad with one every 35 mins.



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QUOTE(edwinsan84 @ Jun 14 2012, 03:55 AM)
i hope we sign Mario Gomez, he was just fantastic
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Gomez? LFC? ahahha... he wont wanna come to us la bro...

So many other big clubs can get him...


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if rumor saying that redknapp has left spurs then it'll a good news for us
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if rumor saying that redknapp has left spurs then it'll a good news for us
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I think you have to wait and see who takes over at Spurs before judging it as good news or not. If a world class manager takes over then they have a good chance of keeping their players.
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I think you have to wait and see who takes over at Spurs before judging it as good news or not. If a world class manager takes over then they have a good chance of keeping their players.
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Moyes is taking over?
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Good to see Sigurdsson will come... But in the expense of who? blink.gif
We do have a incredible depth of unsuitable players to be disposed...
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Good to see Sigurdsson will come... But in the expense of who?    blink.gif
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sigurdsson is coming?
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I hope we get another quality defensive midfielder just in case Lucas gets injured again.... we also need another winger and a clinical top class striker.
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3 latest players linked to us:

Kalou, free - Liverpool Echo
Christian Tello, $7m - Daily Mail
Milos Krasic, $6m - Daily Mirror

Only rumours though
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 14 2012, 05:38 PM)
3 latest players linked to us:

Kalou, free  - Liverpool Echo
Christian Tello, $7m - Daily Mail
Milos Krasic, $6m - Daily Mirror

Only rumours though
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Kuyt: My future is at Liverpool
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Kuyt said: "My contract has one more season to go after this but there are things happening.

"We have had some talks and I can only say it looks positive.

"I feel at home in Liverpool and I don't want to leave here.

"It has been a difficult time for everyone at the club with the changes that have happened since last summer but now I can sense something good is happening - I think Liverpool are on the way back."


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seriously i think spurs are stupid to sack harry after what he has managed to achieved with the club
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seriously i think spurs are stupid to sack harry after what he has managed to achieved with the club
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It's an open secret that good ol' Harry has long harbor desires to manage the 3 Lions, and Harry is just being Harry...trying to manipulate things and force his way out of the club, just like what he did to Portsmouth, Sunderland and now Spurs.

Once WOY steps down from the England seat after Euro 2012, Harry will be swiftly appointed to the position.


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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 15 2012, 10:03 AM)
It's an open secret that good ol' Harry has long harbor desires to manage the 3 Lions, and Harry is just being Harry...trying to manipulate things and force his way out of the club, just like what he did to Portsmouth, Sunderland and now Spurs.

Once WOY steps down from the England seat after Euro 2012, Harry will be swiftly appointed to the position.
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I don't think tat gone happen soon, he signed a 4 year contract so most probably will be after the next WC... I think the chairman is disappointed as Harry wanted to try for England while he was still the Manager...
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I don't think tat gone happen soon, he signed a 4 year contract so most probably will be after the next WC... I think the chairman is disappointed as Harry wanted to try for England while he was still the Manager...
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WOY can sign a 50 yr contract with England for all I care, it wouldn't matter as long as he continues to dish out mediocre performances with the England team, who knows how long he will be able to cling on the hot seat and Harry will be eyeing this like a starving old vulture in the sky.

Me thinks that WOY will be gone 5 games into 2016 WC qualifiers!

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I don't think tat gone happen soon, he signed a 4 year contract so most probably will be after the next WC... I think the chairman is disappointed as Harry wanted to try for England while he was still the Manager...
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so far Woy has not inspire England to play attractive football, so unless they win or atleast reach the finals..i dont think FA will keep Woy for a long time.
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actually Woy IS the perfect fit for England.
I can't ever recall a time when one of their managers managed to actually quell and dampen expectations - no one expects England to actually win anything, hence zero pressure which could actually work to the players advantage.

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actually Woy IS the perfect fit for England.
I can't ever recall a time when one of their managers managed to actually quell and dampen expectations - no one expects England to actually win anything, hence zero pressure which could actually work to the players advantage.
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I hope Woy will play Carroll tonight with either Young or Welbeck. The lad need his chance in order to impress.


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33 is still young in grand scheme of things. I'm watching Malaysia vs Singapore now, there's a 41 year old player lol.
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Đurić? Here's the thing. Malaysians were whining when Singapore beat us last year and again when we drew with them this year in Singapore. Talking about how they looked like the United Nations and that it was unfair they had foreigners. Hello, Đurić is 41 wei. Not like they naturalised Messi right? It's in our nature to complain I feel. Thing is the same people complaining forget that we have our own naturalised medalists. Yuan Yu Fang. Irina Maharani anyone?
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Liverpool FC scouting restructure takes shape with appointment of Manchester City duo

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hmm.

no goalkeeping coach (yet)
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no sports science / chief medical director (yet)

hmm.

But the two appointments made are more of maverick choices.


and FSG shelved the idea of Sporting Director.


So much. Would have still taken Rafa anytime.
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With torres back on form and spain finally getting their rhythm back i don't see how anyone can stop this spanish juggernaut again this year.Unless uncle roy gets in the way tongue.gif

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Guys, The Anfield Wrap guys did an email interview with John Henry solely on the subject of the new stadium/Anfield refurbishment.

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i heard that we are looking into Milos Krasic, i think he is a good player but why he got bad treatment in Juventus now? i thought he played well?
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i heard that we are looking into Milos Krasic, i think he is a good player but why he got bad treatment in Juventus now? i thought he played well?
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Krasic is sort of luxury players like Kewell who dont exactly help out in defending.
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Assist by gerrard..team liverpool, but u guys realise our tempo is very slow in the game? and everyone is playing like a headless chicken like that

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Added on June 16, 2012, 4:55 amCheeky goal by Welbeck:-)

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Fixed, other than that I tend to agree on your statement. Then again is there any foreig footballers playing on our sides? Our southern neighbour has plenty from from table tennis, badminton to football.
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Should it matter though? Are we saying our lads our worse off than a bunch of rejects who couldn't cut it in their own country? An entire football team wins one medal, the same as any of our naturalised athletes. Borders have been brought down. Even if we don't have naturalised players, we have foreign coaches flying our flag.

On a positive note, good on Carroll. Worked hard and linked up well. Almost floored the ref with a rocket after a foul had been called did our Andy. Good assist from Stevie again. I've always said that Gerrard's crossing was underrated especially when Beckham was still playing and hogging the limelight. Becks may be better looking and therefore more commercial but Stevie is by far the more complete player.

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Liverpool chief Henry claims building new stadium will not transform club finances

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1xv77XmHS


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I don't see whats wrong with not building a new stadium, spending 500+ millions just to get 20,000 more seats? Why not spend less by expanding Anfield to get that 20,000 seats if possible? Wouldn't it hurt us if we end up with very little money to spend for transfers? Wouldn't it upset the fans if we had to raise ticket prices to recoup the money? It may also be more difficult to recoup the money compared to Arsenal's stadium which is located in London. Isn't it kinda sad too to leave this historic ground of Anfield?

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I'd much rather stay at Anfield if some Evertonian are willing to relocate smile.gif The mystique and aura that envelopes Anfield is irreplaceable. Ticket prizes gong up will piss some quarters off what with the core of Merseyside being blue collared. Having said that there is overwhelming demand for tickets.
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They won't relocate. The bitters want to have the upper hand by denying us the ability to revamp Anfield (due to "right to light" issues) and hoping by moving to Stanley Park, they'll also get a cut (co-owning the stadium)
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Sport.es reporting #LFC have bid €9m for Barcelona's Cristian Tello & are set to hold talks with Barca representatives in the coming weeks.
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hope this is true!...9m euro for Tello is a good price..Reina can sweet talk him to join us...heck even Rodgers can sweet talk in spanish biggrin.gif
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As long as we have no CL,there will be no new stadium or even revamping of Anfield.You can't get bank loans without CL.
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As long as we have no CL,there will be no new stadium or even revamping of Anfield.You can't get bank loans without CL.
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How are you gonna convince bank to give you loans without Cl revenue?That's how arsenal got theirs.
Can you get loans,credit cards without a minimum income yearly?The owners can't use their own money here because their spending will be accounted under FFP rules.The club has to generate its own money.As it stands now the club is making losses.

So please tell me where the money is going to come from?Kenny's carling cup?Unless liverpool can suddenly reach commercial revenue of man utd in one year,that isn't likely.

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 16 2012, 04:45 PM)
How are you gonna convince bank to give you loans without Cl revenue?That's how arsenal got theirs.
Can you get loans,credit cards without a minimum income yearly?The owners can't use their own money here because their spending will be accounted under FFP rules.The club has to generate its own money.As it stands now the club is making losses.

So please tell me where the money is going to come from?Kenny's carling cup?Unless liverpool can suddenly reach commercial revenue of man utd in one year,that isn't likely.
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Liverpool chief Henry claims building new stadium will not transform club finances

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I am not sure about that either because liverpool made 50million loss last year and FSG said it was money for the previous stadium planning and design.
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I think what Henry said has logic. Liverpool is not a big metropolitan like London and thus it'll be very hard for us to attract as much revenue as clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea through ticket sales. The way that he suggests seem more plausible at the moment.

And to be honest, Champions League football will be much more important than anything else in this very moment.
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I am not sure about that either because liverpool made 50million loss last year and FSG said it was money for the previous stadium planning and design.
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Yes CL cash is important but that doesn't mean you can't take loans, if you still receive significant revenue from other areas (sponsors for example) you will still get the loan. We are getting some of the biggest sponsorship deals in football and that was achieved even without CL, which proves that Liverpool FC is still a big enough name/brand that guarantees return. Apart from loans, they were discussing about stadium naming deals which would make a lot of sense too so the loan wouldn't have to be too big a cost for us to bear.

As for the 50 million loss, it was mostly the mess left by our previous ownership. H&G didn't deliver their promise of a new stadium and even more so they didn't even pay for the design and planning costs which John Henry described as a futuristic but costly and unpractical. Adding that to the contract termination costs for the dismissal of staffs and various other debts from the H&G era. So I wouldn't say we make losses every year as that was a one-off situation, the club should do fine as long as FSG keep up their effort in reducing our unreasonably high wage bill and continue attracting big sponsorship deals.

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On taking control of the club, the Fenway Sports Group was forced to abandon that scheme and revert to the original plan.
Accounts published on Friday will show a loss of £49.6 million associated with Liverpool's stadium costs, £35 million of which is a consequence of writing off the Hicks scheme.

As Telegraph Sport revealed in January, FSG has now dusted down the earlier design by Manchester-based architects AFL, first released in 2001, but the crippling cost of Hicks’ folly is still being felt.

Liverpool say without those expenses, this year’s club accounts would show the club is breaking even, with debts reduced by over £200 million to around £38 million.


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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 17 2012, 12:44 AM)
Yes CL cash is important but that doesn't mean you can't take loans, if you still receive significant revenue from other areas (sponsors for example) you will still get the loan. We are getting some of the biggest sponsorship deals in football and that was achieved even without CL, which proves that Liverpool FC is still a big enough name/brand that guarantees return. Apart from loans, they were discussing about stadium naming deals which would make a lot of sense too so the loan wouldn't have to be too big a cost for us to bear.

As for the 50 million loss, it was mostly the mess left by our previous ownership. H&G didn't deliver their promise of a new stadium and even more so they didn't even pay for the design and planning costs which John Henry described as a futuristic but costly and unpractical. Adding that to the contract termination costs for the dismissal of staffs and various other debts from the H&G era. So I wouldn't say we make losses every year as that was a one-off situation, the club should do fine as long as FSG keep up their effort in reducing our unreasonably high wage bill and continue attracting big sponsorship deals.
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When i mentioned about CL,i already assumed that we have secured the stadium rights sponsorship.I was talking about the other portion.I don't think you take loan from one bank only.There's a collaboration between the banks.It will be difficult to convince a number of banks if you are running on deficit.Arsenal could convince them back then because they were in CL and were constantly challenging for the league.

If you read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirates_Stad...ance_and_naming even with PL money and CL arsenal found it difficult to finance the stadium back then.What more us who are without PL money prize and CL.CL revenue is easily 35k if you get past group stages.Remember we are not gonna pay it lump sum but sign a long bond.
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Go to StanChart for a loan. Owners can offer personal guarantee or have first charge on the naming rights of the new stadium. Plenty of ways to go about. IIRC, the bulk of the 50mil losses is due to one-off non cash items. Take those away and our profit and loss looks reasonable.
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How are you gonna convince bank to give you loans without Cl revenue?That's how arsenal got theirs.
Can you get loans,credit cards without a minimum income yearly?The owners can't use their own money here because their spending will be accounted under FFP rules.The club has to generate its own money.As it stands now the club is making losses.

So please tell me where the money is going to come from?Kenny's carling cup?Unless liverpool can suddenly reach commercial revenue of man utd in one year,that isn't likely.
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Yes CL cash is important but that doesn't mean you can't take loans, if you still receive significant revenue from other areas (sponsors for example) you will still get the loan. We are getting some of the biggest sponsorship deals in football and that was achieved even without CL, which proves that Liverpool FC is still a big enough name/brand that guarantees return. Apart from loans, they were discussing about stadium naming deals which would make a lot of sense too so the loan wouldn't have to be too big a cost for us to bear.

As for the 50 million loss, it was mostly the mess left by our previous ownership. H&G didn't deliver their promise of a new stadium and even more so they didn't even pay for the design and planning costs which John Henry described as a futuristic but costly and unpractical. Adding that to the contract termination costs for the dismissal of staffs and various other debts from the H&G era. So I wouldn't say we make losses every year as that was a one-off situation, the club should do fine as long as FSG keep up their effort in reducing our unreasonably high wage bill and continue attracting big sponsorship deals.
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QUOTE(Monstar @ Jun 17 2012, 09:38 AM)
Go to StanChart for a loan. Owners can offer personal guarantee or have first charge on the naming rights of the new stadium. Plenty of ways to go about. IIRC, the bulk of the 50mil losses is due to one-off non cash items. Take those away and our profit and loss looks reasonable.
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There you go. All the answers here. Heaven forbid that no club outside the top four will ever be able to take a loan. Even Leeds Utd who were far less profitable loaned themselves into administration. We are still a highly commercial club and like cloud said much of the £50 million loss is attributed to H&G. We are in a far more stable position financially now with our debt having been cleared. Also the loss did not take into account our deal with Warrior. We finished 8th, still have the Warrior deal to bank on and if we expand our stadium, cash flow will improve. Banks see that we have a business case. Reducing the wage bill, sponsorship deals, merchandising, etc are all part of a business case. Banks don't only loan money to those already wealthy but also those with the potential to gain wealth. Banks will get back their money either way. How do you reckon H&G loaned all that money and put us in the red in the first place? FSG have a far better reputation.

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Dukic? Here's the thing. Malaysians were whining when Singapore beat us last year and again when we drew with them this year in Singapore. Talking about how they looked like the United Nations and that it was unfair they had foreigners. Hello, Dukic is 41 wei. Not like they naturalised Messi right? It's in our nature to complain I feel. Thing is the same people complaining forget that we have our own naturalised medalists. Yuan Yu Fang. Irina Maharani anyone?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 17 2012, 12:30 PM)
There you go. All the answers here.  Heaven forbid that no club outside the top four will ever be able to take a loan. Even Leeds Utd who were far less profitable loaned themselves into administration. We are still a highly commercial club and like cloud said much of the £50 million loss is attributed to H&G. We are in a far more stable position financially now with our debt having been cleared. Also the loss did not take into account our deal with Warrior. We finished 8th, still have the Warrior deal to bank on and if we expand our stadium, cash flow will improve. Banks see that we have a business case. Reducing the wage bill, sponsorship deals, merchandising, etc are all part of a business case. Banks don't only loan money to those already wealthy but also those with the potential to gain wealth. Banks will get back their money either way. How do you reckon H&G loaned all that money and put us in the red in the first place? FSG have a far better reputation.

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Are you forgetting that when HG took the loan we had CL?In fact we were doing very well in it by reaching at least semi finals.

When you say expanding on our stadium,i assume that you mean revamp anfield.Do you know that we are gonna take a hit on matchday revenue if we revamp anfield?It will only increase after it is completed.That is why i favour a new stadium rather than revamping anfield.At least the current revenue can be maintained while building a new 65-70k seater.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 17 2012, 04:36 PM)
Are you forgetting that when HG took the loan we had CL?In fact we were doing very well in it by reaching at least semi finals.

When you say expanding on our stadium,i assume that you mean revamp anfield.Do you know that we are gonna take a hit on matchday revenue if we revamp anfield?It will only increase after it is completed.That is why i favour a new stadium rather than revamping anfield.At least the current revenue can be maintained while building a new 65-70k seater.
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Well that depends on how much revenue loss it would be, referring to the table below note that the revenue given is annual revenue and assuming the expansion will take 1-2 years with half the stadium closed off, its only 20m loss per season. I certainly don't see that as taking a HIT on matchday revenue.

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"It is often said that for Liverpool to compete in match-day revenue with United, Arsenal and Chelsea, we need a new stadium," Henry said. "But you can see that the £50 million or £60 million differences stem as much from revenue per seat as from the number of seats. Even if Liverpool were able to get to 60,000 seats, there would have to be an increase from £900 to £1550 in revenue per seat as well to catch Arsenal.

"Can Liverpool as a community afford Chelsea or Arsenal prices? No. If Anfield yielded £1550 per seat, without adding seats, Liverpool match-day revenue would rise from £41 million to £71 million. That would be the same as building a new stadium with 60,000 seats or increasing seating at Anfield and increasing revenue per seat to £1170.

Matchday Revenue 2010-11
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Man Utd  76,212  £108.60m  £1,425
Arsenal  60,355  £93.10m  £1,543
Chelsea  42,055  £67.50m  £1,605
Liverpool  45,555  £40.90m  £898
Newcastle  52,387  £32.40m  £618
Man City  47,726  £26.60m  £557
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The stadia redevelopment programme for the 2006 FIFA World Cup continues to benefit German clubs who provide four of the matchday top 20. The Bundesliga’s high quality new, or redeveloped, stadia helped to attract the world’s highest average league attendance of 41,800 – 22% higher than the Premier League. However, significantly lower average ticket prices than their English counterparts ensured that Schalke 04 – who were 16th in the Money League – and Borussia Dortmund do not make the matchday top 20 despite average home league attendances of 61,300 and 77,200 respectively.

Four of the five Money League clubs who did not make the matchday top 20 – AS Roma, Juventus, Olympique Lyonnais and Olympique de Marseille – are progressing with stadium (re)developments. Such projects are vital as each club only generates between 8% and 18% of revenues from matchday activities. Whilst market factors – including location, demographics etc. – may limit the actual growth potential, each club could realistically expect to significantly reduce the matchday revenue gap to the clubs above them should they complete such developments.

Whilst matchday revenue is important it is not crucial and should not be our priority at the moment. Stadium redevelopment is a much more practical alternative financially. Not saying a new stadium is a bad move, it should only be done if it is something the club can cope with comfortably in the long-term without it affecting our on-field matters (transfers) as how it affected Arsenal.

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 17 2012, 04:36 PM)
Are you forgetting that when HG took the loan we had CL?In fact we were doing very well in it by reaching at least semi finals.

When you say expanding on our stadium,i assume that you mean revamp anfield.Do you know that we are gonna take a hit on matchday revenue if we revamp anfield?It will only increase after it is completed.That is why i favour a new stadium rather than revamping anfield.At least the current revenue can be maintained while building a new 65-70k seater.
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Are you forgetting that when H&G took over, we didn't have Standard Chartered nor did we have Warrior? I imagine that we also paid more in terms of wages relatively speaking. They didn't only take one loan did they? They did it over their tenure as owners so much so that RBS decided against anymore loans and they demanded payments for the interest owed. Like I said earlier anyway, banks loan you money if you can show them a proposal or a blueprint for success. I mentioned Leeds earlier, which is an example of a failed venture. Banks are more than willing to loan money and collect on interest because in the end, someone will more than likely pay and a club like Liverpool is not short of prospective owners.

Won't repeat what Cloud mentioned, been one step of me that bloke. Renovating Anfield will be less expensive and even if we take a hit in the short run, the long term benefits far outweigh any loss in the time it will take to complete renovations. FSG has repeatedly mentioned that they are planning for the long term. As it is, we've been shortchanged for years by having a smaller stadium. What's 1-2 years in the bigger scheme of things? 1 step back. 2 steps forward.
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Are you forgetting that when H&G took over, we didn't have Standard Chartered nor did we have Warrior? I imagine that we also paid more in terms of wages relatively speaking. They didn't only take one loan did they? They did it over their tenure as owners so much so that RBS decided against anymore loans and they demanded payments for the interest owed. Like I said earlier anyway, banks loan you money if you can show them a proposal or a blueprint for success. I mentioned Leeds earlier, which is an example of a failed venture. Banks are more than willing to loan money and collect on interest because in the end, someone will more than likely pay and a club like Liverpool is not short of prospective owners.

Won't repeat what Cloud mentioned, been one step of me that bloke. Renovating Anfield will be less expensive and even if we take a hit in the short run, the long term benefits far outweigh any loss in the time it will take to complete renovations. FSG has repeatedly mentioned that they are planning for the long term. As it is, we've been shortchanged for years by having a smaller stadium. What's 1-2 years in the bigger scheme of things? 1 step back. 2 steps forward.
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Long terms benefits of a new stadium outweighs that of a revamped anfield.60k is the max for anfield.Here we are talking about pushing it to 70 or 80 if the situation arises.What happens when 60k anfield isn't enough?It's better to move out now than move out in 10-15years time keeping in mind inflation and other mitigating factors.We can't stay at anfield forever because people want to feel nostalgic.Eventually we will have to move out one day.We don't want to look back at that time and say we wasted time and money by redeveloping anfield.New stadium=0 step back 2 steps forward.

About not being short of prospective owners,martin broughton begs to differ.

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However, speaking to ESPNsoccernet Broughton admitted that he had searched the globe but had been unable to find a mega rich investor willing to buy the club.

"We searched the world looking for another owner like the ones at Chelsea and Manchester City. With all of Liverpool's traditions, heritage, history and powerful global brand, I must admit I thought it would be possible to find one,” he explained.

"We hoped for someone who wanted a 'trophy asset', but having scoured the world without finding one, the conclusion is that there are no more Romans [Abramovich] out there.

"Yes, of course, it is disappointing that even a name like Liverpool failed to attract one, so I cannot imagine other club having much luck."

The chairman also hinted that he was a little surprised he couldn’t attract the type of owner he preferred as he believed the lure of a club like Liverpool would have been enough of an enticement.


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About not being short of prospective owners,martin broughton begs to differ.
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Not quite true on that though. Its an open secret that we had received several offers to buy the club, amongst them FSG and one other prospective owner whom I believe H&G claimed made a much larger offer and is supposedly some UAE backed consortium that would possibly see us spending the way City has been spending. We are not short of suitors.

And yes you might be right that a new stadium might be beneficial in the sense that we might want to further expand the stadium, maybe 70,000 or even 80,000 all seater. Truth is though, how much more would 10,000-20,000 more seats give u? Not saying it isn't good but can we even afford to do that now? I don't like the sound of getting more big ass loans after finally cleaning our decks and risk another near-administration situation. I would rather have funds focused on improving our league position in securing CL position.

The decision isn't up to us anyway, FSG are the ones who does all the work and evaluation, they know the exact costs and benefits and I trust them at that. Redeveloping Anfield is not a certainty anyways, there are houses and people (some Everton fans too probably) living in the area around the stadium which we intend to develop, as much as FSG likes the idea of refurbishing that plan might not come to fruition.

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Not quite true on that though. Its an open secret that we had received several offers to buy the club, amongst them FSG and one other prospective owner whom I believe H&G claimed made a much larger offer and is supposedly some UAE backed consortium that would possibly see us spending the way City has been spending. We are not short of suitors.

And yes you might be right that a new stadium might be beneficial in the sense that we might want to further expand the stadium, maybe 70,000 or even 80,000 all seater. Truth is though, how much more would 10,000-20,000 more seats give u? Not saying it isn't good but can we even afford to do that now? I don't like the sound of getting more big ass loans after finally cleaning our decks and risk another near-administration situation. I would rather have funds focused on improving our league position in securing CL position.

The decision isn't up to us anyway, FSG are the ones who does all the work and evaluation, they know the exact costs and benefits and I trust them at that. Redeveloping Anfield is not a certainty anyways, there are houses and people (some Everton fans too probably) living in the area around the stadium which we intend to develop, as much as FSG likes the idea of refurbishing that plan might not come to fruition.
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My point from the beginning was No Cl= No new stadium or anfield development.That's why you will continue to get mixed answers from them and dilly dallying from new stadium to anfield redevelopment.Why else do you think owners don't want to give clear answer even after one year?You said they know the exact costs and benefits so what do you reckon is stopping them from making a decision?

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To all the people who are rooting for a 70 thousand seater stadium, let me tell you this: Liverpool have not been in the Champs League for a few years. We've just had one of the worst runs in the league. Even if I gave you a 70k stadium, can you guarantee that tickets will always be sold out? Given the probable rise in ticket prices (in order to compete with other clubs) do you actually think the people of Liverpool can and will afford it? I doubt so.

Keeping Anfield doesn't mean we're being nostalgic. It's simply the smarter choice. I just don't see the point of an inflated 500m pound stadium. How many decades would it take to repay that 500m debt? or put it this way, how many decades would it stifle our capabilities in the transfer market? It's only been less than a decade since Arsenal moved to their new stadium and you can see the negative effects the debt repaying focus is having on their team. Arsene Wenger is the only thing that's keeping Arsenal alive and kicking.

I believe the focus should not be Financial First, Performance Second. That is the wrong approach. A team should always aim to build a winning team first, and then only focus on excelling financially
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Filling the stadium isn't an issue at all.The season ticket waiting list is endless.A bigger stadium definitely will help with that.With CL football i am pretty sure it can generate even more.

I don't know where some get the 500million pound figure from.The proposed stadium from H&G was estimated to cost 400million pounds.FSG are proposing a cost effective one which probably costs 250-300million pounds.That's a far cry from 500.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/stadium/new-stadium

LFC planned to build new 55k seater stadium in 2002.10years later it looks short-sighted.Good thing that didn't materialise.If the 55k plan can be become outdated in 10years with respect to current demands how sure can you be that 60k anfield won't be outdated and unable to cater to demands in 2022?

We must think ahead of the times.The board members in the 90's failed to see things ahead.As a fan i would hate to see that happen again.United are already planning to raise OToilet to 80k.

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Finding "mega rich" owners like FSG or DIC may not be easy but you the likes of Steve Morgan are aplenty.mthey just don't have a piggy bank the size large consortiums have. In terms if attractiveness, we have huge potential for growth. We cost some on thirds what the mancs do but have done relatively little in taking advantage of our commercial value. Since taking over FSG have not only struck substantially bigger sponsorship deals (sponsors who saw our potential for growth no doubt), they are also working on smaller ones around the globe much like how Air Asia became the official airlines of when the mancs visit the far east. I mentioned much earlier that a colleague and I had met an official from LFC mid last year to talk about sponsorship in our country. The same is happening in neighbouring countries like Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand who have a huge fanbase. All this will be set to materialise next season.

Relocation or renovation? There are argument for and against and opinions are split. The argument for staying put at Anfield isn't purely based on sentiment although a huge reason why most fans support the club is based on feelings of nostalgia. The possibility of losing the likes of the Kop, Shankly Gates and statue, Paisley Gates and the Hillsborough Memorial plaque saddens some. The idea isn't to let sentiment get in the way of progress, it's preserving it in light of progress. A mini city may be able to accommodate a small town but will we be able to fill the place during League Cup, Europa Cup or league games against minnows? As it stands, the club has allocated tickets to fan clubs around the globe to push out, cue the negative sentiment towards OOTs and the prawn sandwich brigade. Ian Ayre has looked at the numbers and reckoned we need a 60,000-65,000 capacity to maximise profit. More than that as we face the prospect of empty seats. By staying we get to keep Anfield and hit that number.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/03/stadi...mic-sense-ayre/

John Henry is rather tight lipped over his preference to remodel Anfield.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Global/.../Liverpool.aspx?

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we'll have to see how this pans out. sad.gif

deep inside, i would much prefer a new bigger stadium. fact is, all these while we, livelpoolfc has been setting short to mid term goals. (i know many of you will disagree, but that's what i think)

FSG has been quite straight forward as they can be. While we hated the thought of a Roman Abramovich or a Sheikh controlling us, deep inside i'm sure all of us in some parts 'wished' now we can compete for good players & financial pull.

I'm all for some work to be done to increase stadium (anfield capacity) or new. while i know the owners did say and point out 'stadium revenue' may not be all. I looked at the (revenue) charts between us & the other teams, its almost as if its so easy to point out "SEE" that's why we fell down the rungs on the league table. blink.gif

These days i don't have much to add but to wish & hope our fortunes to turn for the better (better financially, 2 feet challenging for honours, not half)

It's good to be told at least we have 'standard charted' and even 'warrior' to help fill in the coffers. I just hope it will not end too soon. Not that i want to be sounding like a messenger-of-doom but more of a realist-point-of view, come on, you know me better cool2.gif

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Standard Chartered and Warrior are the only visible deals because of the sheer amount they're shelling out. Most don't have visibility of the smaller deals being struck around the globe. Like I mentioned earlier, certain companies in our country were approached for sponsorship deals spanning 2-3 years in the seven figure region. I have the proposal with me. During our last tour, Courts were partners but the club is also looking for longer terms ones. These, you don't read about.

A bigger stadium is what all clubs want but then there is the issue of filling it. Remains to be seen if we can fill a 100,000 seater to the brim during smaller games. Also a massive stadium would translate into higher overheads. More ground staff, higher maintenance costs, etc. This will translate into higher ticket prices. If prices go up, will most of the blue collared locals be able to afford to go for every game? This isnt London we're talking about. There is indeed a need for more seats and I think we can all agree to this, the question is what the optimum number is? As far as Ian Ayre is concerned, it's between 60-65K. Being efficient means we don't over stretch ourselves.

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Very few businesses succeed or reach their full potential by being sentimental... just saying.
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Our decline wasn't down to matchday revenues, it was due to Man Utd excelling in an era of globalization.
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What I'm putting across is the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive and based on what I can read, the owners seems to think that remodelling Anfield is the right way to go for now. What is your take?
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Honestly I don't really have any preference when it comes to the stadium.

What worries me though is that the club seems to not be making any progress either way, and now we're kinda like saying getting more matchday income isn't integral to a successful future? hmm.gif
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Liverpool have opened talks with Hoffenheim over a move for Gylfi Sigurdsson and a deal could be completed as early as next week.

Brendan Rodgers is keen to bring the midfielder to Anfield after the pair combined well during Sigurdsson's loan spell at Swansea last season.

The 22-year-old has privately expressed his desire to join Rodgers at Anfield, rather than join Swansea permanently.

Liverpool will pay in excess of the £6.8m fee Swansea agreed last month.

Sigurdsson had been on the brink of agreeing a permanent move to the south Wales club when Rodgers left for Anfield last month.

But despite having agreed terms with Swansea, Rodgers's departure prompted an immediate change of heart from Sigurdsson with the influence of his manager a key reason for his original decision.

The new Liverpool manager has made no secret of his desire to link-up with his former player, whom he also worked with in his brief spell at Reading in 2009.

"If he comes into the market for whatever reason - and I'm sure there'll be a number of clubs interested in Gylfi - then of course I would like to be in a position to put our case here at Liverpool to sign him," Rodgers said earlier this week.

"But I've always said I think he's a player Swansea have had an agreement with and they have to have every chance to try to sign him. That's only right. If anything changes from that, we'll look at it from there."

The personal wishes of Sigurdsson have, however, brought an end to Swansea's hopes of signing the player, leaving the way clear for Liverpool to make their first signing under Rodgers.

More are likely to follow. "I think there are a few players who can come in and improve the group straight away," Rodgers added. "I know the types of player I need to bring here to make us function well and that's something myself, the club and the board will look at.

"I know what we've got, more or less, in the squad, but I also know there are a couple of signings that could really improve what we do."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18472916


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This.

Been mentioning this since the 90s....... unfortunately Moores was not listening!

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Tello from Barca is not joining us. Barca don't want him to go and we might get Milos Krasic.


Added on June 18, 2012, 3:12 pmRumours said that we might start our opening EPL fixture with fulham at our homeground.

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Jun 18 2012, 03:10 PM)
Tello from Barca is not joining us. Barca don't want him to go and we might get Milos Krasic.


Added on June 18, 2012, 3:12 pmRumours said that we might start our opening EPL fixture with fulham at our homeground.
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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...xtures-revealed

Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United as our first three home games. Welcome to the big league Brendan Rodgers laugh.gif

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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...xtures-revealed

Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United as our first three home games. Welcome to the big league Brendan Rodgers  laugh.gif
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To all the people who are rooting for a 70 thousand seater stadium, let me tell you this: Liverpool have not been in the Champs League for a few years. We've just had one of the worst runs in the league. Even if I gave you a 70k stadium, can you guarantee that tickets will always be sold out? Given the probable rise in ticket prices (in order to compete with other clubs) do you actually think the people of Liverpool can and will afford it? I doubt so.

Keeping Anfield doesn't mean we're being nostalgic. It's simply the smarter choice. I just don't see the point of an inflated 500m pound stadium. How many decades would it take to repay that 500m debt? or put it this way, how many decades would it stifle our capabilities in the transfer market? It's only been less than a decade since Arsenal moved to their new stadium and you can see the negative effects the debt repaying focus is having on their team. Arsene Wenger is the only thing that's keeping Arsenal alive and kicking.

I believe the focus should not be Financial First, Performance Second. That is the wrong approach. A team should always aim to build a winning team first, and then only focus on excelling financially
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 18 2012, 10:20 AM)
Standard Chartered and Warrior are the only visible deals because of the sheer amount they're shelling out. Most don't have visibility of the smaller deals being struck around the globe. Like I mentioned earlier, certain companies in our country were approached for sponsorship deals spanning 2-3 years in the seven figure region. I have the proposal with me. During our last tour, Courts were partners but the club is also looking for longer terms ones. These, you don't read about.

A bigger stadium is what all clubs want but then there is the issue of filling it. Remains to be seen if we can fill a 100,000 seater to the brim during smaller games. Also a massive stadium would translate into higher overheads. More ground staff, higher maintenance costs, etc. This will translate into higher ticket prices. If prices go up, will most of the blue collared locals be able to afford to go for every game? This isnt London we're talking about. There is indeed a need for more seats and I think we can all agree to this, the question is what the optimum number is? As far as Ian Ayre is concerned, it's between 60-65K. Being efficient means we don't over stretch ourselves.
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interesting point

a stadium is more likely to target physical revenue, while tele, merchandise sold worldwide will provide much more revenue. for this to happen, we simply cannot be missing out on the important competitions (example CL), where tv revenue and prize money can contribute a lot

hence on field success, especially short term, is a crucial springboard for long term success

my 2cents though

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...xtures-revealed

Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United as our first three home games. Welcome to the big league Brendan Rodgers  laugh.gif
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anyone have any experience buying ticket to watch at Anfield ? need helps here ¬
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 18 2012, 04:16 PM)
Nope our first match is away to WBA. Our first 3 home matches will be against MC, Arsenal and MU    sweat.gif

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Well,last season we drew our first game against sunderland which we initially thought as an easy game.Then we managed to win at emirates after a decade.

I am not worried about big games.I am more worried about the ''small'' games.

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Somewhere in the net, somebody published that the stadiums in Germany can accomodate 100k seaters. In fact, if my memory serves me right, the stadium of which Bayern Munich team is playing in, can seat nearing 100k and it is always full, because of its low price.

However, despite the 100k seater, the matchday revenue is far lesser than teams in EPL.

The article later suggests of finding the sweet spot of maintaining the number of seats that locals can come into, and the number of seats that OOTs, the corporates, the hospitality-revenue-driven-visitors, etc.

To which somebody suggested we could have 100k seater and still fill them all. The only question is, can we find that 'sweet spot' of the corporate-priced-tier sitting? If FSG can do that, we won't have to worry much about expanding the stadium. I'm in for it.


edit: double posted

edit 2: addition.

if my memory serves me right, nothing can stop Anfield's redevelopment. However, the "right to light" issues remain to stand, and the city council isn't happy because they are not getting the cut of a good share in the redevelopment (because by developing Stanley Park they get a bigger cut)


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We have Steve Clarke for first match!!!!
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dream fixture. Our first 3 home match is against the defending champ, Arsenal and the ManU. couldn't ask for more.


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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jun 18 2012, 06:35 PM)
Somewhere in the net, somebody published that the stadiums in Germany can accomodate 100k seaters. In fact, if my memory serves me right, the stadium of which Bayern Munich team is playing in, can seat nearing 100k and it is always full, because of its low price.

However, despite the 100k seater, the matchday revenue is far lesser than teams in EPL.

The article later suggests of finding the sweet spot of maintaining the number of seats that locals can come into, and the number of seats that OOTs, the corporates, the hospitality-revenue-driven-visitors, etc.

To which somebody suggested we could have 100k seater and still fill them all. The only question is, can we find that 'sweet spot' of the corporate-priced-tier sitting? If FSG can do that, we won't have to worry much about expanding the stadium. I'm in for it.
edit: double posted

edit 2: addition.

if my memory serves me right, nothing can stop Anfield's redevelopment. However, the "right to light" issues remain to stand, and the city council isn't happy because they are not getting the cut of a good share in the redevelopment (because by developing Stanley Park they get a bigger cut)
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the fact that from what I heard the waiting list for the season tickets is very long . Now I am trying to figure out how to buy a ticket to watch a match there in the next 2 months.I found out the problems facing by the locals and tourists on how limited the tickets for a match day.

For me , I think we definitely need a new stadium as soon as possible. The condition of the stadium is not as good as the other more recognizable stadium.

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Italian forward Fabio Borini linked with LFC
By This Is Anfield On June 17, 2012


Italian forward Fabio Borini is attracting interest from Liverpool, according to several media reports.

The 21 year old former Chelsea striker is well known by new Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers, having managed him during his time as Chelsea reserves manager and during a loan spell at Swansea in 2011.

That loan spell saw Borini score an impressive six goals in nine appearances and helped guide them into the Premier League. Immediately after that he joined Parma, having signed a pre-contract agreement with the Serie A side. Parma then loaned him to Roma with a view to a permanent deal, where he scored nine goals in 24 games last season.

During his time with Chelsea, he scored 10 goals in 11 games in the reserves 2008–09 campaign. In October 2010 he scored five goals in one game for the reserves.

Borini, who is part of Italy’s squad at the European Championships, is said to be attracting interest from several clubs, including Paris St. Germain – coached by Carlo Ancelotti, who gave him his Chelsea debut back in 2009.

Quotes attributed to Borini in The Express and TalkSport have him praising Rodgers;

“Brendan Rodgers is a good manager and a great person who knows me very well.

“He is like an uncle because he helped me a lot when I was at Chelsea.”
Liverpool are keen to add to their attacking options following the departure of Dirk Kuyt.


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Well all teams have bad time picking up pace in early games. So, not quite optimistic of gaining 3 points against these teams especially with new gaffer in charge.
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wah..3 difficult home games man!!
BR better do wonders man!!

i cannot imagine if these 3 games turn ugly..
his new reputation will go..just like that and that early somemore..
tough job..all the best .....


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we must remember how arsenal drop to 17th place early last season..then they managed to climb up till 3rd place..the important thing is start win against teams that we suppose to win
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 19 2012, 04:53 AM)
we must remember how arsenal drop to 17th place early last season..then they managed to climb up till 3rd place..the important thing is start win against teams that we suppose to win
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 19 2012, 05:02 AM)
Couldn't agree more.The big games only matter if you are challenging for the league.
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True that, we have always performed well above expectation for the big games in the past couple of seasons but that it worries me everytime we managed a good result against a big team because more often than not we will end up losing/drawing to a lesser club in the next match.


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For me , I think we definitely need a new stadium as soon as possible. The condition of the stadium is not as good as the other more recognizable stadium.
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Is that so? Anfield has been around since 1884 compared to Old Trafford 1910 so we are like only 30 years apart yet our condition is not comparable? That is only so because Old Trafford has been subjected to several expansion and refurbishments since construction and there is plan to further develop/expand the venue in the future.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:44 PM)
Well all teams have bad time picking up pace in early games. So, not quite optimistic of gaining 3 points against these teams especially with new gaffer in charge.
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messes up........ biggrin.gif

Best to expect anything more than draws. i would be happy with that and strong displays if possible

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:44 AM)
True that, we have always performed well above expectation for the big games in the past couple of seasons but that it worries me everytime we managed a good result against a big team because more often than not we will end up losing/drawing to a lesser club in the next match.


Added on June 19, 2012, 5:56 am
Is that so? Anfield has been around since 1884 compared to Old Trafford 1910 so we are like only 30 years apart yet our condition is not comparable? That is only so because Old Trafford has been subjected to several expansion and refurbishments since construction and there is plan to further develop/expand the venue in the future.
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It is either a new stadium or a big renovation . I been looking around the surrounding of the stadium and found out many abandoned home that built too near to the stadium. Issue of new stadium will come out soon or later , the stadium is built to near to the neighbourhood compare to old trafford.There is not much parking spaces compared to old trafford , and I can say it is quite far from the city itself. My first impression toward the stadium is not as what I expected .

you guys can google up anfield stadium on google map , zoom in and double click ..you can view the street and stadium condition .Well , not to be disrespect , but I think old trafford did a better job in honouring their munich victim compared to us .
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 18 2012, 12:43 PM)
Honestly I don't really have any preference when it comes to the stadium.

What worries me though is that the club seems to not be making any progress either way, and now we're kinda like saying getting more matchday income isn't integral to a successful future? hmm.gif
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It isn't the biggest thing if you compare it against TV rights, merchandising and sponsorship deals but nonetheless, it's important. Who is saying otherwise though? So far it's been all talk no action.

QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 18 2012, 09:11 PM)
the fact that from what I heard the waiting list for the season tickets is very long . Now I am trying to figure out how to buy a ticket to watch a match there in the next 2 months.I found out the problems facing by the locals and tourists on how limited the tickets for a match day.

For me , I think we definitely need a new stadium as soon as possible. The condition of the stadium is not as good as the other more recognizable stadium.
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A new stadium means a massive expansion. I know there is a queue for season tickets but that's because they can be handed down generations and the Kop can only seat that many people. Unless a family has no lineage, season tickets will be inherited by the next of kin, hence the waiting list. With such an expansion in mind, filling seats for smaller games might be a problem. Also, the higher overheads I mentioned earlier. I don't think aesthetics are as important as the points I've mentioned. Anfield is in pretty good condition though. It's rustic but it isn't exactly falling apart. I remember it to be clean and well maintained.


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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 19 2012, 08:05 AM)
you guys can google up anfield stadium on google map , zoom in and double click ..you can view the street and stadium condition .Well , not to be disrespect , but I think old trafford did a better job in honouring their munich victim compared to us .
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I've been to both stadiums but I don't get what you mean. The victims of Hillsborough are officially honoured every year. There is a plaque where people place wreaths every home game. There are also plaques in the Anfield museum. Also I think more Liverpool fans know about Hillsborough as compared to mancs who know about Munich. Don't follow your point.


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:44 amThere has been a lot of talk over who we may buy. Cavani, De Jong and so on. Fact is that without CPL football, we may well be looking at players under the radar who have potential but haven't made waves in the press. Also with the purchases of Agustien and Vorm, Rodgers could be looking to the Eredivisie for help. Cue Wilfried Bony.



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guys, about EURO, i dont quite understand why RUssia in 3rd place. Base on my reading, is it because head to head where Greece beat Russia 1-0, thats how they advanced on semi final?
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QUOTE(normeck @ Jun 19 2012, 09:16 AM)
guys, about EURO, i dont quite understand why RUssia in 3rd place. Base on my reading, is it because head to head where Greece beat Russia 1-0, thats how they advanced on semi final?
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what happen if they draw? then difference goal rules came in?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 19 2012, 08:10 AM)
It isn't the biggest thing if you compare it against TV rights, merchandising and sponsorship deals but nonetheless, it's important. Who is saying otherwise though? So far it's been all talk no action.
A new stadium means a massive expansion. I know there is a queue for season tickets but that's because they can be handed down generations and the Kop can only seat that many people. Unless a family has no lineage, season tickets will be inherited by the next of kin, hence the waiting list. With such an expansion in mind, filling seats for smaller games might be a problem. Also, the higher overheads I mentioned earlier. I don't think aesthetics are as important as the points I've mentioned. Anfield is in pretty good condition though. It's rustic but it isn't exactly falling apart. I remember it to be clean and well maintained.


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I've been to both stadiums but I don't get what you mean. The victims of Hillsborough are officially honoured every year. There is a plaque where people place wreaths every home game. There are also plaques in the Anfield museum. Also I think more Liverpool fans know about Hillsborough as compared to mancs who know about Munich. Don't follow your point.


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:44 amThere has been a lot of talk over who we may buy. Cavani, De Jong and so on. Fact is that without CPL football, we may well be looking at players under the radar who have potential but haven't made waves in the press. Also with the purchases of Agustien and Vorm, Rodgers could be looking to the Eredivisie for help. Cue Wilfried Bony.


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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM)
Well,last season we drew our first game against sunderland which we initially thought as an easy game.Then we managed to win at emirates after a decade.

I am not worried about big games.I am more worried about the ''small'' games.
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this applies when KK was in charge. But with BR, we still dont know what he capable of
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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Jun 19 2012, 09:39 AM)
this applies when KK was in charge. But with BR, we still dont know what he capable of
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is it true that he will buy this player? or just food for thought?
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Food for thought. What I'm getting at is we probably won't be signing any of the big names on everyone's lips in this thread. The mandate is still to buy young players whose price will potentially inflate in the future last I checked.

QUOTE(gerrardling @ Jun 19 2012, 09:39 AM)
this applies when KK was in charge. But with BR, we still dont know what he capable of
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You have to look further back to Rafa and Houllier as well. We once did the double over the mancs in consecutive seasons when Houllierneas boss if memory serves me.
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 19 2012, 08:05 AM)
It is either a new stadium or a big renovation . I been looking around the surrounding of the stadium and found out many abandoned home that built too near to the stadium. Issue of new stadium will come out soon or later , the stadium is built to near to the neighbourhood compare to old trafford.There is not much parking spaces compared to old trafford , and I can say it is quite far from the city itself. My first impression toward the stadium is not as what I expected .

you guys can google up anfield stadium on google map , zoom in and double click ..you can view the street and stadium condition .Well , not to be disrespect , but I think old trafford did a better job in honouring their munich victim compared to us .
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Well that was a question as I've never been to Anfield so many you would know more, was just wondering how run-down Anfield is.

As for the abandoned houses, I believe they were bought out by the club some time ago for future expansion purposes.


We were linked with this defensive midfielder kid from Celtic. Finesse power big man, a hybrid of Hamann and Sissoko.

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Yes, those houses were bought over, but buying over a house there and rebuilding it isn't like in Malaysia.

its not like you can just buy around and then start redeveloping. One of the most touchy issues is "right to light", or the best way i could translate it as, "hey, don't block my sunlight. I want my sunlight every time the sun is up, and it starts at 6.am, so i want my sunlight and my view.".

That has been the real touchy issue, apart from the pesky, bitter Evertonians ever-ready to jump in to deny LFC of their capacity to upgrade. (there's more benefit to them than us if we develop Stanley Park instead of sticking it in Anfield.

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:10 AM)
Well that was a question as I've never been to Anfield so many you would know more, was just wondering how run-down Anfield is.

As for the abandoned houses, I believe they were bought out by the club some time ago for future expansion purposes.


We were linked with this defensive midfielder kid from Celtic. Finesse power big man, a hybrid of Hamann and Sissoko.
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@duke
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...-future?cc=4716

At first i thought it was a 'ooo-headline' but
"He was eager to point out that building a new stadium, or renovating their current home, is not the key to their chances of challenging at the top of the Premier League and with the best in Europe once again. But it seems the dream of a "new Anfield" will only become a reality if the club can secure a lucrative naming rights deal to finance it."

Maybe I am fed up with our own flip-flop politicians, but this sound pretty lame to me. Memory might fail me, but i do recall that addressing the stadium issue was one of the major concerns for the new owners when they came in?
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I wouldn't worry about the stadium to be honest, like John Henry said, matchday revenue is not and will never be the main source of a football club's income. Its the advertising and sponsorship deals that will give us the big bucks. If FSG can continue pulling in big deals like they have so far, I'm sure it will give us sufficient fund to improve on the field. Performance = even more Sponsorship = Stadium
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 19 2012, 11:14 AM)
@duke
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...-future?cc=4716

At first i thought it was a 'ooo-headline' but
"He was eager to point out that building a new stadium, or renovating their current home, is not the key to their chances of challenging at the top of the Premier League and with the best in Europe once again. But it seems the dream of a "new Anfield" will only become a reality if the club can secure a lucrative naming rights deal to finance it."

Maybe I am fed up with our own flip-flop politicians, but this sound pretty lame to me. Memory might fail me, but i do recall that addressing the stadium issue was one of the major concerns for the new owners when they came in?
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Having read the article, I don't think Henry deems renovating Anfield unimportant. He's pointing out that there are other more influential factors in transforming the fortunes of our club. How important is it really? I'll get into this later. It also states that even if we build a new stadium, it will be a 60,000 seater and if this is true, then it may be more economical to go with renovating Anfield. The article also states that a new stadium would be publicy funded indicating that ticket prices will rise, something the club can ill afford to do in light of income levels on Merseyside.

It is stated that the club can earn between $20 - $30 million more with more seats. Our deal with Warrior is worth $25 million a year. The deal with Standard Chartered is worth $80 million over 4 years so that loosely translates to $20 million a year. Last season we earned $79.5 million from broadcasting revenue. Commercial revenues from merchandising totaled $62 million. Taking all this into consideration, $20 - $30 million may not be "integral" but it's still a fair sum. I just hope Henry isn't trying to talk himself out of investing in more seats. Does anyone know the difference in cost between renovating Anfield and building a new stadium?

One of the cons of staying at Anfield is that the owners need to not only consider that cost of the renovation itself but also purchasing the surrounding property to provide better access. The alternative is to build apartment buildings on Stanley Park (which is a mere 10 mins walk from Anfield) to provide housing should residents agree to relocate. I'm not sure how much this option will cost altogether.

In any case, I just hope it isn't all talk whether it's relocating or renovating. Seems he's second guessing himself.

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i loled at this. he is MU fans btw.
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Jun 19 2012, 12:33 PM)
this is definitely shocking.. shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Jun 19 2012, 12:33 PM)
shebby m.u fan??..1st time I heard that..all these while i tot he's a spurs fan rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Jun 19 2012, 12:33 PM)
Correction, he's a Spud.
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QUOTE(tgmape @ Jun 19 2012, 12:33 PM)
he's not a MU fan, hes spurs fan, but this is really a shocking news, at least to me.
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Just wow, probably only a decent footballer at best compared to the rest of the world and a football pundit in Asia making it to a club like Blackburn with no prior European footballing experience whatsoever. The only reason I can imagine is that the Venkys watch Asian football channels often and actually thought that all the stuff Shebby said on TV made sense and that makes him an expert and also the fact that he is also an Indian.

So instead of getting rid of the fool that is Steve Kean, they are adding in another with no experience. Just lol.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 19 2012, 02:15 PM)
Just wow, probably only a decent footballer at best compared to the rest of the world and a football pundit in Asia making it to a club like Blackburn with no prior European footballing experience whatsoever. The only reason I can imagine is that the Venkys watch Asian football channels often and actually thought that all the stuff Shebby said on TV made sense and that makes him an expert and also the fact that he is also an Indian.

So instead of getting rid of the fool that is Steve Kean, they are adding in another with no experience. Just lol.
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Excatly!
No prior top flight international footballing experience,
No prior management experience,
No contacts within the European region,
Not even deemed good enough to coach the National Team
And he's appointed as a "Director of Football" in Blackburn Rovers?
I mean cammon....cammon Blackburn....
I seriously think Venky must want him as a translator from English to Hindi or whatever but title Director of Football. I mean what other value could he possibly add?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 19 2012, 08:10 AM)
It isn't the biggest thing if you compare it against TV rights, merchandising and sponsorship deals but nonetheless, it's important. Who is saying otherwise though? So far it's been all talk no action.
A new stadium means a massive expansion. I know there is a queue for season tickets but that's because they can be handed down generations and the Kop can only seat that many people. Unless a family has no lineage, season tickets will be inherited by the next of kin, hence the waiting list. With such an expansion in mind, filling seats for smaller games might be a problem. Also, the higher overheads I mentioned earlier. I don't think aesthetics are as important as the points I've mentioned. Anfield is in pretty good condition though. It's rustic but it isn't exactly falling apart. I remember it to be clean and well maintained.


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:15 am

I've been to both stadiums but I don't get what you mean. The victims of Hillsborough are officially honoured every year. There is a plaque where people place wreaths every home game. There are also plaques in the Anfield museum. Also I think more Liverpool fans know about Hillsborough as compared to mancs who know about Munich. Don't follow your point.


Added on June 19, 2012, 8:44 amThere has been a lot of talk over who we may buy. Cavani, De Jong and so on. Fact is that without CPL football, we may well be looking at players under the radar who have potential but haven't made waves in the press. Also with the purchases of Agustien and Vorm, Rodgers could be looking to the Eredivisie for help. Cue Wilfried Bony.


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I dont like the idea they place the memorial at the back door near to shankly gate. During off match day the place is too quiet , and seriously anyone went to stadium by cab probably wont know the location of the memorial.Old trafford in the other hand placed all the memorial in their tunnel.

I havent visit inside of Anfield yet.Will visit the tour tomorrow and take few pictures to show my points.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 19 2012, 10:10 AM)
Well that was a question as I've never been to Anfield so many you would know more, was just wondering how run-down Anfield is.

As for the abandoned houses, I believe they were bought out by the club some time ago for future expansion purposes.


We were linked with this defensive midfielder kid from Celtic. Finesse power big man, a hybrid of Hamann and Sissoko.
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Bukit Jalil > old trafford > Anfield in term of capacity , parking space and the stadium appearance itself. I walk all the way to Anfield from liverpool city and the stadium is surround by housing area. I will try to look around the facilities inside stadium and share few pictures here. Even the price stadium tour and match day ticket are almost the same to old trafford so the fans deserve a better and wider place to watch football.
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 19 2012, 03:48 PM)
I dont like the idea they place the memorial at the back door near to shankly gate. During off match day the place is too quiet , and seriously anyone went to stadium by cab probably wont know the location of the memorial.Old trafford in the other hand placed all the memorial in their tunnel.

I havent visit inside of Anfield yet.Will visit the tour tomorrow and take few pictures to show my points.
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I think it's placed in a quiet place intentionally for those who take it seriously. Out of respect for the victims and their families, it shouldn't be used as a tourist attraction where people will want to have their smiling pictures taken.. I remember during my tour that they never mentioned where it was. I asked the guide and he told me. So in this sense, I think it's appropriate to place it in a secluded location. I think it's respectful not to use it as a commercial tool to draw tourists.
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I second that.
You do not want smiling tourists posing for photos at the memorial.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
I think it's placed in a quiet place intentionally for those who take it seriously. Out of respect for the victims and their families, it shouldn't be used as a tourist attraction where people will want to have their smiling pictures taken.. I remember during my tour that they never mentioned where it was. I asked the guide and he told me. So in this sense, I think it's appropriate to place it in a secluded location. I think it's respectful not to use it as a commercial tool to draw tourists.
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I think if it is part of the club history it should be introduce and teach by the staff to the supporters. I went to old trafford and how the tour guide mentioned about the munich disaster , the clock that gave by munich government to the stadium itself .It is quite incredible feeling walking thru the tunnel with all the memorial and tragedies that happened to the club.I like the way how passion the tour guide mentioned bout the tragedy of a football team that die for their football club as he did mentioned about the Hillsborough tragedy as well that lead to the new seating in the stadium in the whole nation.From there I know a young player Duncan Edwards that probably got a very good future with the national team if he didnt passed away from the tragedy.

Just in my opinion , they should have a better place for the memorial and not at the back door of the stadium. Indeed the word memorial refer to a memory of a certain event and person. .Shame to those who smile while taking pictures of the memorial.



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Photos of Hillsborough can be seen in the Anfield museum. It's one thing to talk about Hillsborough and show pictures of it, but it's quite another to have tourists take pictures of a memorial where the bereaved families and friends of the victims pay their respects. It isn't a tourist attraction. Hardly the same as a bunch of pictures in a tunnel. The Hillsborough Justice office is located a few doors away from Anfield. Fans can learn all about Hillsborough there.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 19 2012, 05:53 PM)
Photos of Hillsborough can be seen in the Anfield museum. It's one thing to talk about Hillsborough and show pictures of it, but it's quite another to have tourists take pictures of a memorial where the bereaved families and friends of the victims pay their respects. It isn't a tourist attraction. Hardly the same as a bunch of pictures in a tunnel. The Hillsborough Justice office is located a few doors away from Anfield. Fans can learn all about Hillsborough there.
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maybe I will have different opinions after I visited the museum. Thanks again duke for the email ,waiting for the reply. I try to take as many pictures as I can .
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No worries. Hope you get your tickets.

Thing is Hillsborough is very close to the hearts of those who reside on Merseyside. Those who want to find out about it, can and will. A lot of foreign fans may have heard of it, but many don't care. I once tried to collect donations and it was damn near impossible to ge Liverpool fans during a viewing party to part with a paltry 10 bucks. I'm sure the locals only want those who really care to pay their respects.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 19 2012, 07:00 PM)
No worries. Hope you get your tickets.

Thing is Hillsborough is very close to the hearts of those who reside on Merseyside. Those who want to find out about it, can and will. A lot of foreign fans may have heard of it, but many don't care. I once tried to collect donations and it was damn near impossible to ge Liverpool fans during a viewing party to part with a paltry 10 bucks. I'm sure the locals only want those who really care to pay their respects.
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umm yea what happened to that donation?
i seem to recall at one point we collected a few hundred RM?



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Gerrard is doing the deep role for england pretty effectively.Hope this will clear doubts that he can't play deep for us.
He looks less tired because he isn't running everywhere as a CAM.The CAM position should be given to someone younger like shelvey or sigurdsson possibly.
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Another assist from our captain fantastic!
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Precisely which is why said that should we keep Aquilani, he'd be the ideal person to fill that advanced midfielder role with Gerrard playing further back.

I feel for Ukraine. A slice of bad luck, the absence of goal line technology and poor finishing.


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umm yea what happened to that donation?
i seem to recall at one point we collected a few hundred RM?
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Liverpool defender Daniel Agger says he would be open to the offer of a new contract at Anfield and is looking forward to meeting new manager Brendan Rodgers.

Denmark international Agger, whose Euro 2012 exploits ended on Sunday after his country were eliminated, is contracted on Merseyside until 2014 but would welcome the chance to extend his deal.

The 27-year-old, who joined Liverpool in 2006 from native club Brondby, is keen to meet Rodgers after being impressed with his results at Swansea.

"It's no secret that I'm happy to be in Liverpool. Otherwise, I would not have been there for six years," he told sporten.dk.

"I have not [discussed a new contract] but if they come with an offer I will surely sit down and talk with them.

"It's not something that is urgent, for I have contract until 2014, but if they ask I will listen.

"I am looking forward to meeting the new coach. I've seen what he has done at Swansea, and it has been impressive."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7828386/

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Alberto Aquilani will be happy to see out his contract with Liverpool should new boss Brendan Rodgers decide that the midfielder is part of his long-term plans at the club.



The Italy international still has two-years remaining on his contract with the Reds and is now waiting to hear if Rodgers sees him as playing a major role in the side.



Aquilani was sent out on-loan by both Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dalglish, but his agent has made it clear that he may still have a future at Liverpool.



"The new Liverpool coach will decide Alberto's fate," the midfielder's agent Franco Zavaglia told Italian radio station Radio Mana Mana, as reported on Sky Sports. "We will have to wait and see what he thinks about the player and whether Alberto will be of any use to the Reds.



"Alberto has a contract at Liverpool for another two years and they will let us know about their intentions soon. He would be happy to stay at Liverpool if he was given the right opportunities."



The midfielder has spent the last two seasons playing in Italy, first for Juventus and then AC Milan, but neither club decided to take up the option to sign him on a permanent deal.



Liverpool did struggle last season in the league and Aquilani does have proven quality, playing a number of games in the Champions League last season for Milan.


http://sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/aqui...keep-him-18159/
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 20 2012, 10:30 AM)
Alberto Aquilani will be happy to see out his contract with Liverpool should new boss Brendan Rodgers decide that the midfielder is part of his long-term plans at the club.



The Italy international still has two-years remaining on his contract with the Reds and is now waiting to hear if Rodgers sees him as playing a major role in the side.



Aquilani was sent out on-loan by both Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dalglish, but his agent has made it clear that he may still have a future at Liverpool.



"The new Liverpool coach will decide Alberto's fate," the midfielder's agent Franco Zavaglia told Italian radio station Radio Mana Mana, as reported on Sky Sports. "We will have to wait and see what he thinks about the player and whether Alberto will be of any use to the Reds.



"Alberto has a contract at Liverpool for another two years and they will let us know about their intentions soon. He would be happy to stay at Liverpool if he was given the right opportunities."



The midfielder has spent the last two seasons playing in Italy, first for Juventus and then AC Milan, but neither club decided to take up the option to sign him on a permanent deal.



Liverpool did struggle last season in the league and Aquilani does have proven quality, playing a number of games in the Champions League last season for Milan.


http://sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/aqui...keep-him-18159/
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AND we have every saying he doesn't like playing for liverpool. which is which ? cool2.gif
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AND we have every saying he doesn't like playing for liverpool. which is which ? cool2.gif
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AND we have every saying he doesn't like playing for liverpool. which is which ? cool2.gif
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Supposedly he prefer to play at Italy but the thing is, nobody want him at Italy, not even at a mere 7m euros. I think he already accept the fact he wont return to Italy, thus staying might be a good thing.
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and then there is rumour that he will be back in Italy with AC Milan with us paying half the wages and a buyout clause of mere 1m euro

now that is bad business
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 20 2012, 11:00 AM)
Supposedly he prefer to play at Italy but the thing is, nobody want him at Italy, not even at a mere 7m euros. I think he already accept the fact he wont return to Italy, thus staying might be a good thing.
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Think about it. For the past couple of seasons, the italian clubs have been able to acquire his service without ever paying his transfer fees and also not having to pay the full amount of his wages. It's just a lot cheaper to just loan the player then to buy him outright. Especially when we as a club are susceptible to getting bullied around in transfers.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 20 2012, 11:47 AM)
and then there is rumour that he will be back in Italy with AC Milan with us paying half the wages and a buyout clause of mere 1m euro

now that is bad business
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this is Parry (correct me if i'm wrong) fault when negotiating the contract. however if im not mistaken the clause only valid if certain condition met like how many games he started and stuff.. which aqua doesn't do so the clause cant be invoke.

btw, i'm pleased to see our captain is having a good campaign in euro. 3 assist in 3 games. best player in england squad so far. just hope he come back with high confidence and injury free..


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Got this in the mornin
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 20 2012, 12:00 PM)
Supposedly he prefer to play at Italy but the thing is, nobody want him at Italy, not even at a mere 7m euros. I think he already accept the fact he wont return to Italy, thus staying might be a good thing.
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I think both Roy and dalglish felt he won't fit in their formation of play, than the 'notion' of he heart is in Italy. I always find that fans 'excuse' bollocks.

Again, I don't have high hopes of BR bucking that thrend. (a good thing was he felt open to receive Joe back)
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 20 2012, 10:26 AM)
AND we have every saying he doesn't like playing for liverpool. which is which ? cool2.gif
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He's merely being diplomatic and cautious.If he says openly he doesn't want to play for liverpool and no offers from italy came in for him people at lfc will think he is coming back because he has no choice.How will the fans give full support to someone like that?

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Aquilani should just come back to Liverpool.
I don't buy the BS that the managers can't fit him in especially with the lack of good passers in the squad.

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The new kit can also be seen at New Balance shops across the country now. Rm259 for the gents; Rm199 for the ladies:-)
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You've got to love RH. His team qualifies for the Q-finals and he says they exceeded expectations? Hoorah. So much tact in telling your squad that you think that they are muppets!
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jun 20 2012, 04:05 PM)
Saw at NEw Balance OU, its RM289, that's expensive.
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hi guys, anyone subscribe the LFCTV Online before ?
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Have u guys notices that our official website has been changed to www.liverpoolfc.com? Or is it old story already? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jun 20 2012, 06:06 PM)
Have u guys notices that our official website has been changed to www.liverpoolfc.com? Or is it old story already? sweat.gif
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yep, it change already

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gila!!!..buy direct from UK + postage still cant beat that price! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 20 2012, 06:48 PM)
seriously , I found 37pounds in uk here..the cheapest  , last season away kits being sell for 10 pounds only..crazy  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Alberto Aquilani could yet return to Anfield
GettyImagesAlberto Aquilani is set to return to Anfield

Aquilani, 27, spent last season on loan at AC Milan. He joined Liverpool from Roma in a £20 million deal in 2009, but failed to settle before being loaned to Juventus in the 2010-11 campaign.

Reports in Italy said Aquilani - under contract at Anfield until 2014 - would terminate his Liverpool deal in order to make a permanent switch to Milan in the summer.

But his agent Franco Zavaglia told Sportitalia: "Almost certainly, he will not terminate his contract with Liverpool.

"He could join them at the beginning of July to start pre-season training with the English club. At this time, there are no clubs interested in him."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...s-agent?cc=4716


Seem like Aquilani coming back to Liverpool just because nobody want to sign him and he may still leave in near future.


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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jun 20 2012, 06:52 PM)
bro, you still in UK ah? Just asking, last session kits still got sell at there? Might ask my friend buy for me cause she will come back very soon.  tongue.gif
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yea..in uk now biggrin.gif until this september..you ask ur fren go stadium punya shop buy..away jersey last season (the black one) 10pounds only
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yea..in uk now biggrin.gif until this september..you ask ur fren go stadium punya shop buy..away jersey last season (the black one) 10pounds only
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jun 20 2012, 06:57 PM)
Great! Tonight will call her for sure.  laugh.gif
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I am a subscriber here. what up? biggrin.gif
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coz i plan to sign for one month for trial .
but from the website , UK 3 for one month and UK 45 for whole year .
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jun 20 2012, 06:48 PM)
seriously , I found 37pounds in uk here..the cheapest  , last season away kits being sell for 10 pounds only..crazy  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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which shop u got it at 37 pound ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Jun 20 2012, 01:06 PM)
btw, i'm pleased to see our captain is having a good campaign in euro. 3 assist in 3 games. best player in england squad so far. just hope he come back with high confidence and injury free..
As much we have seen overall England has no a big shout as contenders, I do hope gerrard will win something with them. Probably the greatest pool player the for the last decade. I know some will not agree nontheless I still rate him highly
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Jun 20 2012, 06:52 PM)
bro, you still in UK ah? Just asking, last session kits still got sell at there? Might ask my friend buy for me cause she will come back very soon.  tongue.gif
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hey bro , all XXL size..juz check it out only..only tat size left sad.gif

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which shop u got it at 37 pound ?  smile.gif
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JD sport ..near to liverpool one there smile.gif
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is this the 3rd liverpool kit? doesnt look really nice though, im not sure if anyone posted this

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jun 21 2012, 12:24 AM)
is this the 3rd liverpool kit? doesnt look really nice though, im not sure if anyone posted this

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Compare to last season, the color is not match at all.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jun 21 2012, 06:29 AM)
laugh.gif Awesome..

btw..are they still got the Boot Room there? where exactly is it??
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yea , the previous boot room already been converted to press conference room , where you can see the picture near to the conference table. It was previously boot room with 12x12 small room that feel few legends including Joe Fagan , Bill Shankly , Bob Paisley..I cant remember another one. The next generation of boot room are Graeme Souness Kenny Dalglish and few more legends. Back in past the team all trained in stadium and Anfield when there is still no Melwood yet (liverpool training ground) Bill Shankly convert the boot room that used to store boot to a small meeting room.

Rafael Benitez like the history of the club thus bring back the new boot room located inside the home dressing room .I did take a picture of the door that lead to the boot room.It is a small room for manager to discuss tactics and strategies. Brendan Rodgers the new manager already stated that he wanted to keep the tradition and use the boot room to discuss strategy this season.

Tour guide said it was locked so we cant see how was it inside the bootroom. Kinda interesting when he mentioned since the boot room being coverted to make way for conference room we didnt win the title..it sound superstitious but that is what the people in the stadium believe the importance of boot room to the club.
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Ian Callaghan - Hold the record for the most appearances in liverpool shirt. His amazing record 640 appearances and only received one yellow card in his entire career.

Phil Neal - 9 consecutive season without a rest . 417 matches without being subs out .

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no wonder WARRIOR can pay so much to sponsor us!!
What a rip off to us = the fans!! mad.gif

The kit is horrible in terms of material used.
I am not buying until they improve.

non sport material at all.

m2c.

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Read it on ESPN ticker that Aqualiani will stay at Liverpool this season.

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Read it on ESPN ticker that Aqualiani will stay at Liverpool this season.

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I got it from Kitbag. LUCAS 21, beach towel and epl badge for 78usd.
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Aqualiani's really that poor that nobody wants him?
I find that quite hard to believe... wasn't he supposed to be talented and skilled if somewhat injury prone?

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Aqualiani's really that poor that nobody wants him?
I find that quite hard to believe... wasn't he supposed to be talented and skilled if somewhat injury prone?
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Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. When I first got out of the cab, tears filled my eyes man. The feeling was so surreal. I imagine you must have felt the same. I didn't get to go into the dressing room though as it was a day before the match sad.gif
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As much we have seen overall England has no a big shout as contenders, I do hope gerrard will win something with them. Probably the greatest pool player the for the last decade. I know some will not agree nontheless I still rate him highly
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Mostly probably, since no club is interested on him.
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People tend to underplay his skills and ability.
He could really rejuvenate us especially if Liverpool want to play the passing game like Swansea and Barca
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Added on June 21, 2012, 4:36 pmjust read the news that city may want skrtel...

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thanks for the virual tour. hope i can someday visit there myself

the place does look a bit aged

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2012, 12:03 PM)
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. When I first got out of the cab, tears filled my eyes man. The feeling was so surreal. I imagine you must have felt the same. I didn't get to go into the dressing room though as it was a day before the match sad.gif
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Yea , have a good time yesterday. The fact I walk there 3 times make it even sweeter. My place to the stadium probably 35 minutes by walking. Just cant forget the feeling that I am in the stadium where we beat Juventus , chelsea and Manu last season. I heard alot from my friends who are not liv fans about how small and how old the stadium we having now.

Luckily the tour guide did mentioned bout the Hillsborough memorial that was placed outside
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Nice picture bro. Feel like want to go there again. Just miss the place..
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2 for 1 .. the museum is not as big for the most decorated club in british football. The tour guide only brought us to tunnel , conference room ,dressing room and kopites area.

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how was it? interested to get one as well. any way to get your friend to help me get one too? biggrin.gif


Added on June 21, 2012, 4:36 pmjust read the news that city may want skrtel...

time to cash in for rebuilding? we do have coates... probably can have adam johnson coming this way?

would like to hear some thoughts


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thanks for the virual tour. hope i can someday visit there myself

the place does look a bit aged
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even though the place look bit old but still full with emotions on every part of the stadium. I still think we need a better or new stadium and keep the old stadium . You can see clearly there are not much modern facilities inside stadium and I think we have a very small room for conference and dressing room.
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Yea , have a good time yesterday. The fact I walk there 3 times make it even sweeter. My place to the stadium probably 35 minutes by walking. Just cant forget the feeling that I am in the stadium where we beat Juventus , chelsea and Manu last season. I heard alot from my friends who are not liv fans about how small and how old the stadium we having now.
Doesn't bother me to be honest. Money can buy you metal and glass but it can't buy you memories. Anfield will always be remembered for those special European nights, especially by those who have played in it. Those who lost their lives at the Battle of the Spion Kop peering over the Kop end sucking the ball into the net, the clapping for the opposition, all those famous songs and banners. Anfield isn't ultra modern, it's rustic and has it's own charm. Fergie once commented on how quiet Old Trafford is these days. Anfield's old walls are still shaking. Money can't buy you this either.

If we do move out of Anfield, talk has it that it will be kept as a museum and so it should. Your friends can gloat all they want about having ultra modern stadiums. We may have one of our own in time. This money can buy but the charm and history of Anfield is something they will never be able to buy. Of course all this means very little to anyone who doesn't appreciate history and the past.

You don't drink but if you did, you'd learn a lot by talking to the locals at the Albert. I hung out there the day before the match but it was quite a task trying to understand Scouse.

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Rustic is just a nice way of saying that Anfield is old and a tad run down, Duke smile.gif
Aye to the museum idea, but honestly do you really think that that big a space to be used as a museum is the most effective way to rejuvenate the whole area?
I know the majority would never ever agree, but the most logical, sentiments aside way to move forward would be to share a stadium with the neighbours. Too bad they can't afford to do so without bolting on a tesco to their end biggrin.gif


Added on June 21, 2012, 7:11 pmOh then again, it looks like neither can we. sad.gif
Perhaps we should go marks n spencer?

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2012, 05:57 PM)
Doesn't bother me to be honest. Money can buy you metal and glass but it can't buy you memories. Anfield will always be remembered for those special European nights, especially by those who have played in it. Those who lost their lives at the Battle of the Spion Kop peering over the Kop end sucking the ball into the net, the clapping for the opposition, all those famous songs and banners. Anfield isn't ultra modern, it's rustic and has it's own charm. Fergie once commented on how quiet Old Trafford is these days. Anfield's old walls are still shaking. Money can't buy you this either.

If we do move out of Anfield, talk has it that it will be kept as a museum and so it should. Your friends can gloat all they want about having ultra modern stadiums. We may have one of our own in time. This money can buy but the charm and history of Anfield is something they will never be able to buy. Of course all this means very little to anyone who doesn't appreciate history and the past.

You don't drink but if you did, you'd learn a lot by talking to the locals at the Albert. I hung out there the day before the match but it was quite a task trying to understand Scouse.
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Dont really bother their comments but rather spend more time on the museum reading and looking at the trophies.So bad the museum kinda out of space and Rafa glorious days should be in the stadium as well.

Still trying my best to understand their accent and the Albert is not that happening during off season.Probably it is far from city. Talked to one of the staff yesterday about the league match ticket , she told me the best way to get the tickets is by becoming their member.The cheapest one can cost me around 26.99pounds. Big dilemma now and will try to read more on RAWK forum to find out the other chances.

Does anyone here have membership card for the next season or anyone have experience purchase the tickets from other sources ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 21 2012, 06:59 PM)
Rustic is just a nice way of saying that Anfield is old and a tad run down, Duke smile.gif
Aye to the museum idea, but honestly do you really think that that big a space to be used as a museum is the most effective way to rejuvenate the whole area?
I know the majority would never ever agree, but the most logical, sentiments aside way to move forward would be to share a stadium with the neighbours. Too bad they can't afford to do so without bolting on a tesco to their end biggrin.gif


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Perhaps we should go marks n spencer?
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The tour guide did mentioned bout how the media trying to control everything there. The management and staff from LFC have to wait for the media to release the fixtures to them. In other words , the media get to know first the fixtures and everything since they did alot sponsorship in term of tv revenue and etc. In fact the boot room was purposely converted to conference room to get into media way back in 1990.This show how much we rely to the sponsorship to keep the club financial strong.


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 21 2012, 06:59 PM)
Rustic is just a nice way of saying that Anfield is old and a tad run down, Duke smile.gif
Aye to the museum idea, but honestly do you really think that that big a space to be used as a museum is the most effective way to rejuvenate the whole area?
I know the majority would never ever agree, but the most logical, sentiments aside way to move forward would be to share a stadium with the neighbours. Too bad they can't afford to do so without bolting on a tesco to their end biggrin.gif


Added on June 21, 2012, 7:11 pmOh then again, it looks like neither can we. sad.gif
Perhaps we should go marks n spencer?
I used the word "rustic", because instead of steel, it's made from brick. Much of Merseyside is from what I remember. I wouldn't say it was rundown given the state of some of our stadiums. It's still clean, it's just old. I've included some pictures from what I visited in 2007 and unless things have changed, it's hardly a crumbling heap. It's better maintained than Bukit Jalil!

A ground share with Everton will be economical but no fan would agree to that. Being a fan isn't always about being logical. There is no logical reason why someone would cry or go ape shit over 22 men chasing a ball after all.

Don't get what you mean about rejuvenating the idea. If we move to Stanley Park, why rejuvenate the area surrounding Anfield?

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Talked to one of the staff yesterday about the league match ticket , she told me the best way to get the tickets is by becoming their member.The cheapest one can cost me around 26.99pounds. Big dilemma now and will try to read more on RAWK forum to find out the other chances.

Does anyone here have membership card for the next season or anyone have experience purchase the tickets from other sources ?  biggrin.gif
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Duke Red, don't you wish to turn back time to spit at that man? biggrin.gif

I managed to visit Anfield 3 years ago, a few days after the 20th anniversary of Hillsborough tragedy. The memorial was filled with tributes by fans of Liverpool and other clubs, namely Everton. It was quite emotional to read some of the tributes.


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Duke Red, don't you wish to turn back time to spit at that man? biggrin.gif

I managed to visit Anfield 3 years ago, a few days after the 20th anniversary of Hillsborough tragedy. The memorial was filled with tributes by fans of Liverpool and other clubs, namely Everton. It was quite emotional to read some of the tributes.
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Yeah turn back time. It was their first year taking over the club so who knew what would happen ?
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Wow, now they have employed Patrice Evra lookalike as the tour guide? Looks professional and presentable.. a few years ago, I have a Jason Statham evil twin in a tracksuit to do the stadium orientation. Def a Scouse.
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AC Milan want Kop flop Aquilani back after releasing former Arsenal star Flamini

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AC Milan are ready to revive their attempts to sign Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani after releasing former Arsenal ace Mathieu Flamini on a free transfer. The Italian giants pulled the plug on talks to extend the out-of-contract Frenchman's San Siro stay after he failed to agree terms on a new two-year deal.

But Milan boss Massimiliano Allergri is eager to welcome back unsettled Anfield star Aquilani as Flamini's replacement.
The Italy international spent last season on loan at the Serie A side but returns to Merseyside next month to begin pre-season training with boss Brendan Rodgers. Although the 27-year-old could yet have a future at Liverpool, Milan are willing to wait until the end of the summer transfer window in their bid to re-sign Aquilani on a permanent basis.
'The deadline has passed and we told his lawyer we won't be waiting any more,' Milan vice president Galliani told Sky Sport Italia, speaking of Flamini's exit. 'We'll bring in a new midfielder by August 31.

'It could be Alberto Aquilani or someone else, as he is a Liverpool player and we're not in talks with them.'
Aquilani, whose Liverpool deal runs until 2014, cost the Reds £17million in 2010 from Roma. But after an injury-hit first season at Anfield he was sent out on loan to Fiorentina before joining Milan on a short-term deal. Milan, meanwhile, have agreed deals to sign Chievo defender Francesco Acerbi and Genoa’s Guinea midfielder Kevin Constant.There was bad news for midfielder Sulley Muntari, however, who faces six months on the sidelines after undergoing knee ligament damage surgery.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1yR3jJ7iF

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AC Milan want Kop flop Aquilani back after releasing former Arsenal star Flamini

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AC Milan are ready to revive their attempts to sign Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani after releasing former Arsenal ace Mathieu Flamini on a free transfer. The Italian giants pulled the plug on talks to extend the out-of-contract Frenchman's San Siro stay after he failed to agree terms on a new two-year deal.

But Milan boss Massimiliano Allergri is eager to welcome back unsettled Anfield star Aquilani as Flamini's replacement.
The Italy international spent last season on loan at the Serie A side but returns to Merseyside next month to begin pre-season training with boss Brendan Rodgers. Although the 27-year-old could yet have a future at Liverpool, Milan are willing to wait until the end of the summer transfer window in their bid to re-sign Aquilani on a permanent basis.
'The deadline has passed and we told his lawyer we won't be waiting any more,' Milan vice president Galliani told Sky Sport Italia, speaking of Flamini's exit. 'We'll bring in a new midfielder by August 31.

'It could be Alberto Aquilani or someone else, as he is a Liverpool player and we're not in talks with them.'
Aquilani, whose Liverpool deal runs until 2014, cost the Reds £17million in 2010 from Roma. But after an injury-hit first season at Anfield he was sent out on loan to Fiorentina before joining Milan on a short-term deal. Milan, meanwhile, have agreed deals to sign Chievo defender Francesco Acerbi and Genoa’s Guinea midfielder Kevin Constant.There was bad news for midfielder Sulley Muntari, however, who faces six months on the sidelines after undergoing knee ligament damage surgery.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1yR3jJ7iF

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i don't know whats all these he is injury prone, when he was out on loan, i don't think he was out for any injury mid to long term for the longest time. anyone?
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i too wanna showoff abit!!
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It actually looks better in your photos Duke than what i remembered circa 95-96. My first impressions was that it wasn't as grand/magnificent as I expected. then again, that was my impression of the north west and england in general - almost everything was old and tired looking as compared to Asia which was pretty much in the build build build mode back then.

As for the rejuvenating the area bit - stanley park which is but a stone's throw away iinm will be a large stadium. Anfield which is also a large (in relative terms) stadium plus our neighbour's home means that there will be three large stadiums in one small area. Not exactly ideal. A waste of space even if you ask me - especially if no matches are going to be played in Anfield. I'd prefer that we tear it down and redevelope it into something useful instead of having another team move in and call it home. A museum will be nice, but preserving a whole stadium to serve as a museum? Hmm... wishful thinking imho.
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Following the takeover of Liverpool F.C. on 6 February 2007 by George Gillett and Tom Hicks, the proposed stadium was redesigned. In November 2007 the redesigned layout was approved by the council, and construction was due to start in early 2008. The new stadium, provisionally called Stanley Park Stadium, was to be built by HKS, Inc.. It was scheduled to open in August 2011 with a capacity of 60,000. If the new stadium is built Anfield will be demolished. The land will become home to the centrepiece for the Anfield Plaza development, which would include a hotel, restaurants, and offices.


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Meireles superb ball to ronaldo.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 21 2012, 08:41 PM)
What's written on that t-shirt is ace.

Yeah turn back time. It was their first year taking over the club so who knew what would happen ?
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halo duke and to everyone here , does anyone know any other sources to purchase a league match tickets? Apparently we need to become a member just to enable us to have the first priority after season tickets to purchase the tickets.

The club come out with a new membership plan call lite member worth around 26.99pounds. Does anyone here have experience purchasing tickets ? I read from RAWK that stated the match tickets will be put on sale on this coming July and November. I assumed this July they will be selling August , September and November matches.

Adryan pm-ed me and told me it is not worth it to get a membership just for a match. Does anyone know the membership can be transferable? Does anyone with membership can help me with this ? So bad rawk didnt allow new member to sign up for their forum , so I have to ask from here.

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nice, look like you had good fun!
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It actually looks better in your photos Duke than what i remembered circa 95-96. My first impressions was that it wasn't as grand/magnificent as I expected. then again, that was my impression of the north west and england in general - almost everything was old and tired looking as compared to Asia which was pretty much in the build build build mode back then.

As for the rejuvenating the area bit - stanley park which is but a stone's throw away iinm will be a large stadium. Anfield which is also a large (in relative terms) stadium plus our neighbour's home means that there will be three large stadiums in one small area. Not exactly ideal. A waste of space even if you ask me - especially if no matches are going to be played in Anfield. I'd prefer that we tear it down and redevelope it into something useful instead of having another team move in and call it home. A museum will be nice, but preserving a whole stadium to serve as a museum? Hmm... wishful thinking imho.
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halo duke and to everyone here , does anyone know any other sources to purchase a league match tickets? Apparently we need to become a member just to enable us to have the first priority after season tickets to purchase the tickets.

The club come out with a new membership plan call lite member worth around 26.99pounds. Does anyone here have experience purchasing tickets ? I read from RAWK that stated the match tickets will be put on sale on this coming July and November. I assumed this July they will be selling August , September and November matches.

Adryan pm-ed me and told me it is not worth it to get a membership just for a match. Does anyone know the membership can be transferable? Does anyone with membership can help me with this ? So bad rawk didnt allow new member to sign up for their forum , so I have to ask from here.

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 22 2012, 10:27 AM)
If you ask me, I rather have Aquilani spend the rest of his contract with us than cheaply sold him to those Italian shit club. I wonder why the heck Aquilani like to go back when he was treated without any respect there
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Those damn Italians are just milking the situation.
I believe even if they bid for Aquilani, it will not be more than GBP 5 million.

What they are trying to do (I think) is to try and get Aqualani interested in joining them instead so they can (again) use this excuse to supress his price. And if Liverpool reject, they will say "Oh, Aquilani wants to join us, not we want to buy him" and the "oh, nobody out there wants Aquilani so you guys (liverpool) should be thankful we are even bidding for him" kinda nonsense and excuse and in a way Liverpool have no choice but to sell....
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i'd rather we use aquaman than to sell him. after all, what the heck we paid 20m for?

btw heard that flamini is now free agent. snap him up?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 22 2012, 05:29 PM)
i'd rather we use aquaman than to sell him. after all, what the heck we paid 20m for?

btw heard that flamini is now free agent. snap him up?
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If we were to sign him he could potentially be another 'Joe Cole' type of signing for us. Not saying JC is a bad player, despite having a good season with Lille, he still have a lengthy history of injuries and at age 30 his 90k a week wages is just over the top for me. Flamini is 28 and just had an entire season out because of injury, Owen Hargreaves anyone?

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Man City's Hart inspired by Gerrard


"He's been great," said the Manchester City stopper.

"Personally, he expects a lot of me. When a guy like that looks to you to perform, it means a lot.

"When he turns around and says 'You need to do this' it makes me grow as a player."

Hart describes Gerrard as someone who leads by example rather than an in-your-face skipper in the mould of Terry Butcher.

"He's an inspirational leader in what he does," said Hart.

"He's not going around looking people in the face and telling people they're not doing the right things, but he leads by example.

"He is a model professional, someone who's been there and done it.

"He just inspires."

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Suarez & Messi Hattrick ..
BR shud buy the player dat can 'feed' suarez the goal..
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Suarez getting a taste of playing with messi is bad news. sad.gif Hope he won't ask for transfer to barca after this.
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Suarez getting a taste of playing with messi is bad news. sad.gif  Hope he won't ask for transfer to barca after this.
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Euro 2012

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Ashley young damn suck .. no contribution at all
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lol why so surprise, England = Fail

thought we all know that
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because it is managed by Woy, biggrin.gif
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If anyone remembers this former youngster we had Miki Roque, he passed away yesterday due to pelvic cancer at the age of 23. RIP.
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the 2 Ashleys put England to Ashes in Euro shootout  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Ashley young damn suck .. no contribution at all
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I thought James Milner was equally as ineffective. Then again, England lived up to expectations didn't they?
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the 2 Ashleys put England to Ashes in Euro shootout  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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RIP Miki. sad to hear another tragedy

it goes to show that in appointing Woy England made massive steps backwards. no clue, no plan b, no creativity. glad he never lasted at liverpool
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Young gotta be the biggest disappointment, most of us never expect Milner to contribute much in attacking. The reason Milner picked ahead of Walcott was because the former can provide more defensive cover to Johnson. Young enter the tournament with very impressive form, so it was a big let down for him to contribute next to nothing.

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Added on June 25, 2012, 12:20 pmOh, and RIP Miki Rogue. I recognised him as one of our young player few years back

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 25 2012, 05:30 AM)
lol why so surprise, England = Fail

thought we all know that
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So no surprise at all.

On another note, RIP Miki Rogue.
Was one of Reds young player a couple of years back.

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Borini just signed for Roma...No striker for us again
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Borini just signed for Roma...No striker for us again
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Though personally I don't really rate him as much as another young striker we are linked with that is Alvaro Morata who reminds me of Torres but I don't know, Borini had prior experience in England and might have a better chance to succeed here so less risk.
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anybody here not a single mention bout Jordan?

very good lad..came into pitch and nobody saw him
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anybody here not a single mention bout Jordan?

very good lad..came into pitch and nobody saw him
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Nobody saw him means he's not contributing much on the pitch. There you said it yourself.
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It makes sense now why woy didnt select a.johnson.He wanted somebody who wouldn't complain sitting on the bench full time laugh.gif

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Liverpool appears to lose sigurdsson's deal


Liverpool appear to have lost out in the battle to sign Glyfi Sigurdsson, with the Icelandic midfielder instead joining Spurs.

Various reports in Germany claim a deal has been done between Hoffenheim and Tottenham – despite the London club not currently having a manager.

BBC Sport journalist Ben Smith wrote on twitter this morning “Hoffenheim had an agent in England yesterday, he flew back to Germany pm. If a deal has been done, almost certain it’s not LFC.

Up until now, a deal with Liverpool appeared to be a formality, with Sigurdsson’s strong relationship with Brendan Rodgers a huge lure for the player who spent last season on loan at Swansea with Rodgers. However, it now seems Spurs have outbid Liverpool and offered the player a better deal.

If indeed these reports are confirmed, and it looks like they will, it is a bitter blow to Rodgers’ summer signing plans.

The fee for Sigurdsson is around 10m euros.

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Rafa and Busquets had some nice words for Roque.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/06/benit...-to-miki-roque/

Nice touch from Puyol as well, paying for his medical expenses.


Added on June 26, 2012, 4:29 pmNice gesture from Cantona. Took the stage during the "Justice Tonight" tour, dedicated to bring awareness to the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, shed his club allegiance for a moment as he voiced his support for the 96.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/manchest...ice-96-concert/

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i dont get it.. how come sigurdson goes to spurs? spurs dont have any manager yet right?
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i dont get it.. how come sigurdson goes to spurs? spurs dont have any manager yet right?
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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Jun 26 2012, 05:11 PM)
They just look at the opportunity to play in champions league which we don't have. That's why no 'fantasy football' type of signing if you don't get a champions league spot.
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Then are we that piss poor in terms of wages? (Totenham did offer higher wages to some of our more elusive targets)
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i dont get it.. how come sigurdson goes to spurs? spurs dont have any manager yet right?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jun 26 2012, 05:28 PM)
Spurs don't have a Champions League spot either.
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Arsenal signed Olivier Giroud (£13m)..what a good signing by Wenger...
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Most teams have signed at least one player and we're still dallying where the new season is just about 1 1/2 months away. I'm getting impatient already.

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QUOTE(redkop63 @ Jun 26 2012, 09:14 PM)
Most teams have signed  at least one player and we're still dallying where the new season is just about 1 1/2 months away. I'm getting impatient already.
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Free transfers normally don't come good, we should target quality players wanting to leave their respective clubs or contract almost coming to an end.
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With the number of signings we've made last summer, I don't think Fenway will allow the same to happen again this summer. Fans should not expect a lot of new players this coming season.

However, I do think we need a better finisher, a poacher.. Someone who can even score with their backside.. rclxms.gif

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We need someone like Edwin Moses to replace Henderson to link up with Suarez, looks like Chelsea is going after Moses. Why can't we act fast, I just don't understand. Much of the funds ended up on dross the last round and Brendan is trying to be more careful this time, I think.

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QUOTE(redkop63 @ Jun 26 2012, 09:35 PM)
Free transfers normally don't come good, we should target quality players wanting to leave their respective clubs or contract almost coming to an end.
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Nah ...... take it with a pinch of salt, Sigurdson to Spurs, just a smoke screen by the player's agent to speed things up at our end.


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if d rumor were correct, we cant even sign a mid table player like Glyfi Sigurdsson...what hope is there for better players to come here? i think we can only afford another voronin-type of signing at best  doh.gif
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Gotto agree with you here somehow. We need to overhaul the engine room (midfield) big time, someone somewhere must come in to replace Adam and Henderson, they're not the answer.

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QUOTE(redkop63 @ Jun 26 2012, 09:46 PM)
Nah ...... take it with a pinch of salt, Sigurdson to Spurs, just a smoke screen by the player's agent to speed things up at our end.


Added on June 26, 2012, 9:51 pm

Gotto agree with you here somehow. We need to overhaul the engine room (midfield) big time, someone somewhere must come in to replace Adam and Henderson, they're not the answer.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jun 26 2012, 08:38 PM)
Arsenal signed Olivier Giroud (£13m)..what a good signing by Wenger...
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Spurs winning Sigurdsson race, whats taking LFC to secure him? This waiting game sucks honestly.
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well, Sigurdson was an "chance" because he declined Swansea.

And BR said "of course I have to be interested, because i wanted him in Swansea" etc.

in other words its more of a friendly gesture from BR.

But i'm not surprised at the fact that BR may really want him for Liverpool FC, given the fact that our midfield engine is lacking cohesion of a 'gelled up', or 'well oiled' kind of imagery. (Then again, last year we had too many midfielders before we loaned off Aquilani and Cole)
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and look what happened to Arshavin... hehehe  biggrin.gif
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Don't forget we still have Lucas in Midfield.
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He score 4 against us at Anfield
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 27 2012, 10:37 AM)
He score 4 against us at Anfield
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Mellor scored against arsenal...
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This is tear-jerking stuff. Taken from MyRawk FB page.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/andy-m...-114408429.html
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This is tear-jerking stuff. Taken from MyRawk FB page.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/andy-m...-114408429.html
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Liverpool have granted Nathan Eccleston a free transfer.

The Daily Mail says Eccleston has been told he is free to leave Liverpool this summer.

The striker, 21, has made nine career appearances for the Anfield club since breaking into Rafa Benitez’s star-studded squad but will be plying his trade elsewhere next season.

Liverpool are prepared to let Eccleston leave the club on a free transfer - but will look for a future sell-on fee.


Another young one gone.
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Mellor scored against arsenal...
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Liverpool close to securing first signing
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1 30m real quality player is already enough rather 6 5m set-to-fail typle player
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post Jun 29 2012, 09:30 AM

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Hero's return: Hyypia's Bayer Leverkusen to play Liverpool in Anfield friendly

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post Jun 29 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Jun 29 2012, 08:19 AM)
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6' 8" (2.03 m) Tall player huh

Liverpool close to securing first signing
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Is he similar to Carroll? Seem like he even taller than Carroll
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post Jun 29 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jun 29 2012, 10:28 AM)
Is he similar to Carroll? Seem like he even taller than Carroll
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yup. he's taller than carroll.carroll's height is 1.91m
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post Jun 29 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Jun 29 2012, 08:19 AM)
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6' 8" (2.03 m) Tall player huh

Liverpool close to securing first signing
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I wouldn't expect us to get 'star' players this summer. 6.4million seems pretty reasonable with his goal return and his age. The height will be a bonus. The only thing is, how odd will it be to have Suarez standing between this guy and Carroll...
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post Jun 29 2012, 09:38 PM

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Looks like the flavour of the month is ..... "How Tall Can We Go". Tall is good, difficult to outjump but does he runs & dribbles fast enough, tackle hard enough and shoots accurately, don't have much idea about this player? We were going for Jackson Martinez at one time, saw him on youtube and looks promising. Really happy to hear that we're after Edwin Moses, this is the type of player I reckon we should get to take on defenders and to compliment Suarez. Hope it comes to reality.

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post Jun 29 2012, 09:55 PM

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If you look for his videos on youtube, you will notice he is less powerful targetman type like Carroll but more skillful and technical much like Edin Dzeko.

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