Do u expect new owners to have problems with their rides? The problem with Peugeot or other Korean cars is usually after a few years so check again early 2014. Pointless asking now as the answer would be mostly positive. But be reminded that these are new generation cars so dont judge according to previous records.

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Added on November 25, 2012, 10:08 pmHavent heard of anybody who plans to own a specific model with a 3 year timeframe. 99% chance it wont happen as by then there would be many more affordable cars in the market. Hopefully by then other premium conti's would be more affordable.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Nov 25 2012, 10:08 PM

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Added on November 25, 2012, 10:24 pmYeah, we notice that indicator before servicing. Its showing -700km.. You can just leave it aside as it doesnt affect anything.
Just be assure your car have enough oils to work things out normally.
you can service your car at 10k or at 6th month mark or within 2 weeks after you 6th month mark.
In my case I do it earlier at 7k coz my 6th due mark on 8th Dec. Im going for a long trip as I mention earlier and I hope my car are in good conditions for peace of mind plus better FC.

This post has been edited by jessyeo: Nov 25 2012, 10:26 PM

Happened to have some free time today so did a test drive on the 408 Turbo at TTDI. Ive tested the 508 many times before i chose the Optima. And there's a clear difference between the 508 and the 408T. The more premium feel of the 508 is quite evident. But the 408 does not disappoint. Quite powerful thanks to the 240Nm torque. But i did sense a slight turbo lag when i floored the pedal. Cabin was well insulated but the lack of tyre noise could be due to the Michelin tyres and smaller rim. Took a few corners hard and road grip was good. The expansive windscreen gives you the feeling that you're driving a big car. But step into the rear seat and you know immediately that ure not in a D segment. Although rear legroom is more than satisfactory but putting 3 normal size adults side by side makes it quite cramped width wise. But the seats are comfortable and firm typical of conti's.

Overall i think the 408 is a more than average car with more than adequate power on the tap. If only Peugeot had improved the rear design, im sure we would be seeing more 408's on the road. The location of the cruise control is also weird and nt easily accessible. Peugeot should have placed it on the steering wheel as it did for the 508. For 125K, i think Nasim could have thrown in power seats and HID headlights which is considered quite 'standard' these days. HID lights are quite essential especially during night drives on the highway. But im refering to the factory fitted ones here not the overly bright ones you get from accessory shops which should be banned for the safety risk to other road users. In terms of handling, i rate the new Ford Focus a few notches higher. Steering response is also better.

So if your budget is max 125K, then the 408 would be a good and logical choice. But 125K also puts many car buyers within range of some D segment makes out there.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Nov 25 2012, 10:55 PM

Talking about HID headlight. I heard from a friend who drive 3008, there is a shop in Damansara uptown selling at RM280 per pair with 1 year warranty. I wonder how bright it is on 408 and JPJ taiko give greenlight onot.

It is not only about brightness.

First of all, retrofitting HID bulb to a halogen headlamp is illegal. Secondly, if you really want to use HID bulb, please also modify the headlamp from reflector type to projector type. Reflector type headlamp is simply NOT SUITABLE to be fitted with HID bulb, since it does not provide a clear cutoff of the light beam, and will dazzle incoming traffic.

within 2 weeks or 500km. please don't forget. this is crucial and automobiles peugeot france is very sticky with the servicing schedules as it involves your warranty. if you can't get your regular service centre, go for another even slightly further away. as they are usually busy, try to make an appointment when you are even about 1,000km away from your scheduled service.

For car servicing, the mileage travelled is a more important indicator compared to time as carbon buildups in the engine oil happen more often during actual driving. But most car manufacturers use periodic servicing to make money hence their intervals are governed more by profit than actual technical implications to the car. Most of the new generation fully synthetic engine oil can easily last 15,000km or more. The 10,000km service interval for synthetic lubricants was in practice way before 2005 so with the current blend of more refined engine lubricants, why cant the service intervals be longer i wonder.

So dont be too bothered about the service intervals. As long as you service every 10-11K, no car manufacturer can fault you even with warranties. Ive had 3 Peugeot's in my family in the past 10 years so quite well versed with Peugeot.

Even with Toyota, ive never followed the 10K interval exactly. Ive usually serviced every 12K actually and regularly went well beyond the 6 month duration per service and Toyota didnt have any issues with it. The car engine was in near perfect performance despite being 9.5 yrs old. No problems whatsoever with the engine or gearbox. Im doing the same with my new Optima. Both service managers at Kia Ipoh and Red Cube PJ agree that the current synthetic engine oil can easily last 15,000km. But im sticking to about 11-12k for each interval. But we should note our driving conditions as well. If ure frequently in stop go traffic then you should not push your intervals too far apart as wear & tear during such driving is generally higher.

Just my 2 cents.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Nov 25 2012, 11:11 PM

Is it normal that 408t having very loud fan sound? And with little rattle sound together...

Generally i find Peugeot engines loud. The 408T is no exception but its probably due to the turbo. But then again, it might be a similar case to the Optima K5 which has a loud engine during cold starts but once warmed up, its relatively quite when idling.

generally, peugeot engines are a bit loud due to the fan. i think even the 405 was a bit loud. my uncle had one.

Yeah, I also would try not to take any risk and stick to the service schedule.
My 2,500 km inspection was around 2,300 km. So for the next inspection they wrote in the book: 2,300 + 7,500 + 500 = 10,300.

I am going thru the pug threads at autoworld.com.my. I see owners of 308t with issues. Having said that, the 308t and 408t share the same engine and GB together with an incompetent SC which concerns me.

What are the car model belongs to D segment which does not exceed 125k?

Read my post again. This is what i said:

But 125K also puts many car buyers within range of some D segment makes out there

I never implied any D segment costs 125K. I said 'within range'.

different engine, please. the 'm' engine is, i dare say even better than what you find in the flagship 508.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Nov 26 2012, 09:37 AM

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Ya, it's actually dif engine from 308 and 508.
Ever heard complaints from 508 owners, but so far... none from 408T owner. Many of us been to the first 10k service, I believe none is complaining the engine issue. If u really interested on 408T, enjoy it!! Cheers~~

Yes slightly different engine which is why power output differs. The 508 hp is 156 while the 408 churns out 163Hp. Torque output same. Similar case to the Kia Optima K5 2.0L. The latest version launched last month gives out 170Hp as compared to the earlier version which gives out 163Hp only.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Nov 26 2012, 10:23 AM

the key differences are not just the horsepower. it is what's inside the engine that matters and how the ecu is mapped to take in poor fuel quality and not foul up. internal components are beefed up as well to cope with higher stress.

you guys talking about the power output from the 1.6 turbo from pug?

Which post u referring to?
408T output is 163hp