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 Peugeot 408......, Launching Soon ? Now with pics... :D

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Kanasai79
post Nov 22 2012, 04:04 PM

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Actually I've checked with few of my 2nd hand car dealer friends on the differences between Nov/Dec car with Jan (new year car) for Peugeot. Many of them told the difference should not be more than RM 5K as when they take the car, the month is also taken into consideration (only for year end car).

Not sure how true is that.... hmm.gif hmm.gif
Boleh percaya kah?

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QUOTE(Kanasai79 @ Nov 22 2012, 04:04 PM)
Actually I've checked with few of my 2nd hand car dealer friends on the differences between Nov/Dec car with Jan (new year car) for Peugeot. Many of them told the difference should not be more than RM 5K as when they take the car, the month is also taken into consideration (only for year end car).

Not sure how true is that....  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
Boleh percaya kah?
Usually when you trade in cars year end after Sept, the price given by dealers is actually based on following year prices because of the risk of not being able to sell the car within the same year.

But its common knowledge that, if you buy a 120K in Nov/Dec 2012 and sell in 2016, your car value is based on 5yrs. If you buy in Jan 2013 and sell at the same time in 2017, your car value is based on 4 years. There will be a slight difference in the selling price of the 2nd hand dealers when dealing with cars of different months of the same year but this difference is rarely passed on to the person trading in.


Added on November 22, 2012, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(dchan126 @ Nov 22 2012, 03:42 PM)
Thanks for the advice. Maybe i should wait till early 2013....
Yes i would think that would be wise. But with CNY coming in Feb, im sure there will be some small discounts for 2013 models next year. The other positive would be that you have some additional time to sample other makes and do more reseach. A win in the coming elections for Pakatan might result in some changes to our automotive taxes. It wont be anything major (if implemented) and would probably be small amounts of reduction spread over a few years. But still worth a wait.



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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 22 2012, 03:18 PM)
Wow! What kind of trip covers 3,000km? Only thing i can think of is a return trip to Bangkok by road. Even if mileage exceeds a couple of hundred wont have any effect.
10k service due on 8th Dec even I havent reach 10k. Have to do it first since I might stay abit longer in Singapore.
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QUOTE(jessyeo @ Nov 22 2012, 08:18 PM)
10k service due on 8th Dec even I havent reach 10k. Have to do it first since I might stay abit longer in Singapore.
How much longer?
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reali quite interested for this offer...
actualli i'm considering elantra 1.6 HS as it is not so expansive...
just scare 1.6 is quite underpower as i'm quite a power hunger...
anione would like to share the minor problems for 408T...?
since there is almost none for major one...
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post Nov 22 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 22 2012, 08:27 PM)
reali quite interested for this offer...
actualli i'm considering elantra 1.6 HS as it is not so expansive...
just scare 1.6 is quite underpower as i'm quite a power hunger...
anione would like to share the minor problems for 408T...?
since there is almost none for major one...
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Minor prob:
- High FC due to the gear change
- Rat sound on the door
- Left align steer
- Blue tooth not auto connected

If you dont mind, try to read back our post. nod.gif

Elantra not a bad car also, just if compare the performance
ofcoz 408 icon_idea.gif

Elantra has its selling point
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post Nov 22 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 21 2012, 09:29 PM)
There's 88pages on this thread and roughly 25 408t owners. Gohead and read every page. Every one has expressed joy in owning this car. Some of us early birds are coming up to the 10K service, no major problems at all!

The deal now is fantastic, go test drive. If you not hooked............I say no more!
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Hi,

I just did my 10K service last Saturday at Nasim Balakong. Took close to 2 hours to complete. I plan to rotate the tyres but the service superviser told me that Peugeot recommends to rotate every 30K. Anyway, it may take another 1 hour since they only have 1 mechanic who can do the tyre and I need to rush, so I just postpone it.

For 10K service, the labour(RM90) is free. Total bill is RM333.50. Details as follows:

Syntium 3000API SM, SAE 5W/30 4 litres - RM221.00
Syntium 3000API SM, SAE 5W/30 1 litre - RM59.90
Oil Filter - RM44.30
Drn Plug Gasket - RM3.70
Service consumables - RM5

So far no major problem and really enjoy my ride. No regret!
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I m wonderiNg why Peugeot is not using TOTAL oil instead of using petronas.
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post Nov 23 2012, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 23 2012, 12:14 AM)
I m wonderiNg why Peugeot is not using TOTAL oil instead of using petronas.
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NAZA SC (Peugeot and KIA) both using Petronas.

There is a Peugeot SC, KL VOLCARE near Jalan Ulu Klang using TOTAL.
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post Nov 23 2012, 01:26 AM

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Before I bought my 408NA ( now 2 months old and clocked in >3,000 km), I have test driven Ford Focus, checked up VW Jetta and even polo sedan. At the same time view the new Honda civic, face lifted Nissan sylphy and Mazda 3. I have decided to forget about Nissan and Honda for a very simple reason, most popular Japs car are practical but mostly boring inside out and the design is full of aspect that just irks me. Let's face it, these mass produced japs car is not meant to be exciting. Mazda offers some external visual designer excitement. But when I viewed the interior and cockpit BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN, I find the material in there, its internal finishing and the design very generics just like the current Hyundai and Kia cars---Great from the outside... But once u step in, u are back into ordinary realm. Both German VW and Ford (Thai-made) are meant to be mass market affordable cars just that it did not translate into that due to the not so nice and hefty excise duty. i Like the technology advancement or supremacy shown by German and American ( please tell me that you do know whole ford is but chevvy cruze is not) I don't breathe and live technology advancement for a car. I instead live and breathe comfort, style, elegant , class, and most importantly a car that is really one with ample legroom, head room, shoulder to shoulder distance. Peugeot 408 is not winner of all aspects, and i don't think it is trying to be but I will forego a push start button anytime for cruise control. I will choose a well built solid steel laden with a door that closes with a thud but come at a price of higher fuel consuming car from a lighter and lower fuel consuming car with door closing at a ugly bang sound. In summary I have chosen this car and would chose it again over and over again because I am finally able to buy a car with all those qualities that I miss, because car maker seldom care for them any more, such as notice how smaller and smaller new generation of most car model gets?!


Added on November 23, 2012, 1:36 am
QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 23 2012, 01:26 AM)
Before I bought my 408NA ( now 2 months old and clocked in >3,000 km), I have test driven Ford Focus, checked up VW Jetta and even polo sedan. At the same time view the new Honda civic, face lifted Nissan sylphy and Mazda 3.  I have decided to forget about Nissan and Honda for a very simple reason, most popular Japs car are practical but mostly boring inside out and the design is full of aspect that just irks me. Let's face it, these mass produced japs car is not meant to be exciting.  Mazda offers some external visual designer excitement. But when I viewed the interior and cockpit BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN, I find the material in there, its internal finishing and the design very generics just like the current Hyundai and Kia cars---Great from the outside... But once u step in, u are back into ordinary realm. Both German VW and Ford (Thai-made) are meant to be mass market affordable cars just that it did not translate into that due to the not so nice and hefty excise duty. i Like the technology advancement or  supremacy shown by  German and American ( please tell me that you do know whole ford is but chevvy cruze is not) I don't breathe and live technology advancement for a car. I instead live and breathe comfort, style, elegant , class, and most importantly a car that is really one with ample legroom, head room, shoulder to shoulder distance. Peugeot 408 is not winner of all aspects, and i don't think it is trying to be but I will forego a push start button anytime for cruise control. I will choose a well built solid steel laden with a door that closes with a thud but come at a price of higher fuel consuming car from a lighter and lower fuel consuming car with door closing at a ugly bang sound. In summary I have chosen this car and would chose it again over and over again because I am finally able to buy a car with all those qualities that I miss, because car maker seldom care for them any more, such as notice how smaller and smaller new generation of most car model gets?!
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And last but not least. Another pug's quality that I like is the steering wheel that is cluster free from all the numerous control that other car makers crammed in to a steering wheel. Instead it is operated with sensible stalks behind the wheel. This together with the classy dashboard is so damn comfortable to be in and visually pleasing, actually makes it hard to leave the driver seat!!


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post Nov 23 2012, 02:03 AM

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high FC?
how high izit?
as i thought ppl said it's quite good in FC...
do share with me especially those who always in spirited driving mood...
thx ya...
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Sigh... Still missing the point. If u want good FC ,good resale value and low maintenance. Buy perodua
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post Nov 23 2012, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 23 2012, 02:03 AM)
high FC?
how high izit?
as i thought ppl said it's quite good in FC...
do share with me especially those who always in spirited driving mood...
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High FC while u comparing with FF, Elantra etc.
I m a spirit driver, got average around 9.5l/100km. Don't forget this is a Turbo engine


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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 23 2012, 01:26 AM)

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Good point from you, I really don't see any sincerity from that Jap car makers nowadays

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 23 2012, 01:26 AM)


Added on November 23, 2012, 1:36 am
And last but not least. Another pug's quality that I like is the steering wheel that is cluster free from all the numerous control that other car makers crammed in to a steering wheel. Instead it is operated with sensible stalks behind the wheel. This together with the classy dashboard is so damn comfortable to be in and visually pleasing, actually makes it hard to leave the driver seat!!
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i agree with the stalks behind the steering...very useful at the right places. at first it was difficult as you cant see them but once u know where they are...u never press the wrong button coz they're not a bunch of buttons side by side...u can keep ur eyes on the road while tweaking things .. i actually like the cluster free steering wheel too smile.gif
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 23 2012, 01:26 AM)
Before I bought my 408NA ( now 2 months old and clocked in >3,000 km), I have test driven Ford Focus, checked up VW Jetta and even polo sedan. At the same time view the new Honda civic, face lifted Nissan sylphy and Mazda 3.  I have decided to forget about Nissan and Honda for a very simple reason, most popular Japs car are practical but mostly boring inside out and the design is full of aspect that just irks me. Let's face it, these mass produced japs car is not meant to be exciting.   Mazda offers some external visual designer excitement. But when I viewed the interior and cockpit BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME IN, I find the material in there, its internal finishing and the design very generics just like the current Hyundai and Kia cars---Great from the outside... But once u step in, u are back into ordinary realm. Both German VW and Ford (Thai-made) are meant to be mass market affordable cars just that it did not translate into that due to the not so nice and hefty excise duty. i Like the technology advancement or  supremacy shown by  German and American ( please tell me that you do know whole ford is but chevvy cruze is not) I don't breathe and live technology advancement for a car. I instead live and breathe comfort, style, elegant , class, and most importantly a car that is really one with ample legroom, head room, shoulder to shoulder distance. Peugeot 408 is not winner of all aspects, and i don't think it is trying to be but I will forego a push start button anytime for cruise control. I will choose a well built solid steel laden with a door that closes with a thud but come at a price of higher fuel consuming car from a lighter and lower fuel consuming car with door closing at a ugly bang sound. In summary I have chosen this car and would chose it again over and over again because I am finally able to buy a car with all those qualities that I miss, because car maker seldom care for them any more, such as notice how smaller and smaller new generation of most car model gets?!
Yes, while i agree that more n more ppl should start choosing other makes over the Japanese, we also need to keep in mind that one of the things that Japanese car makers like Toyota excel in is long term durability. This is something both the Koreans and French are trying very hard to replicate. Both you and many of us here on LYN have brand new non Japanese cars. We dont know how things are gonna be in say 5-7 years time. So while its good that we're happy with how things are now, we must always remember that a majority of problems the Koreans and French makes faced, came after a few years of ownership. That's what destroyed their credibility both in Malaysia and overseas.

My family had 3 previous generation Peugeots, all of which were CBU France and all had numerous problems. Same with the Korean makes. Right now if im not mistaken the 408 is manufactured in China or Argentina rite? So quality could be better or worse. So although our cars come with better physical looks and better specs, durability over the longer term is still something which none of us know of at this moment.

We just have to keep our fingers crossed i guess. But for now, we'll enjoy our rides. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 23 2012, 09:32 AM)
Yes, while i agree that more n more ppl should start choosing other makes over the Japanese, we also need to keep in mind that one of the things that Japanese car makers like Toyota excel in is long term durability. This is something both the Koreans and French are trying very hard to replicate. Both you and many of us here on LYN have brand new non Japanese cars. We dont know how things are gonna be in say 5-7 years time. So while its good that we're happy with how things are now, we must always remember that a majority of problems the Koreans and French makes faced, came after a few years of ownership. That's what destroyed their credibility both in Malaysia and overseas.

My family had 3 previous generation Peugeots, all of which were CBU France and all had numerous problems. Same with the Korean makes. Right now if im not mistaken the 408 is manufactured in China or Argentina rite? So quality could be better or worse. So although our cars come with better physical looks and better specs, durability over the longer term is still something which none of us know of at this moment.

We just have to keep our fingers crossed i guess. But for now, we'll enjoy our rides.  biggrin.gif
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Just to update the outcome of my problems logged at service center of my 408T.

1) Rattling sound from left passenger side.
Result : Still exist. Will complain again.

2) Sound from right front tyre during turning
Result : Fixed. Steering pump changed.

3) Whizzing sound from steering
Result : Still exist although it sounds softer now. But still irritating to my ears.

4) Rattling sound from the dashboard at driver side.
Result : Still there. Will complain again.

Will be great if anyone here who had the same or diff problems can also share their experiences in here.


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9.5L / 100Km is for 100% city drive?
How bout 100% highway?
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post Nov 23 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(OrangBiasa @ Nov 22 2012, 10:10 PM)
I just did my 10K service last Saturday at Nasim Balakong. Took close to 2 hours to complete. I plan to rotate the tyres but the service superviser told me that Peugeot recommends to rotate every 30K.
Why would the car manufacturer have any recommended rotation? Shouldnt it be the tyre manufacturer? Isnt it a general assumption that tyres should be rotated every 10k? I think the more often you rotate, the more even your wear is gonna be. Ive tried the 30k rotation before and it resulted in totally different wear between the tyres hence now im sticking to the 10k rotation cycle. Some tyre manufacturers like Bridgestone recommend rotations every 5,000-8,000km. But I think that rotating it every 10,000km is the best.
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 23 2012, 11:34 AM)
9.5L / 100Km is for 100% city drive?
How bout 100% highway?
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9.5L/100km for 50% city and highway drive
Around 7.3L/100km for 100% highway drive (consistent 110km/h)

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