Yes it's not just the HP, EP6CDTM has been given a serious make over. Many parts have been beefed up. My interest is especially on the piston redesign,among others.

Air and fuel are injected directly into the cylinders independently, as apposed to a air/fuel mixture in fuel injected engines. This direct injection of fuel causes 'wall wetting' which contributes to premature carbon buildup. The redesigned piston helps reduce this phenomena to achieve better combustion. A combination of these methods - wall-guided, air-guided and spray-guided are used.

No issues at all up till now. However it is still early to gauge succes, am watching with a very keen concern!

anyone checked out the 508gt?

That's a sweeeeet babe! Was so disappointed it was introduced after I got my 408t. Good possibility my next ride in a few years! In 3 years there might be something better,so we'll see!

yours is the facelifted 408t with the new box right?

408 has not been facelifted here in malaysia and the transmission is still the same as when it was introduced a short while back in may this year.

oh i thought there is one with 4 speed another with 5 speed

2.0NA = 4 Speed
1.6T = 6 Speed

thanks for the info

No point explaining yourself to those who can't comprehend you. U have said it very clear. He just nid to sharpen up his English. I m not good in English but I read and read until I understand. If I don't, I ask. But this guy......Haih.

Could you share what is the 'm' engine difference between the 308t and 408t. Is the 508 using the same engine? Are the gearbox the same across the range?

I test drove 308t, halfway thru the engine check light appeared, SA said it's normal and given its a test car, they have not serviced the car.

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Added on November 26, 2012, 11:02 pmWhich car is giving out 170hp, 508,408t or Optima?

This post has been edited by lunchtime: Nov 26 2012, 11:02 PM

That is utterly sloppy. Inexcusable! *face palm*

Place read back the previous post from Skyjack for the dif in between. 308T and 508 shared the same engine (correct me if I am wrong). while 408T using an improved engine that rectified most the faulty.

The 308 u tested is the previous model or FL-ed version? Wonder if they rectify those issues on 308T.
My friend's 308T really gives him lots of troubles. Been sent in to SC few times just less than one year.

308T = 156hp
408T = 163hp
508 = 156hp
New batch K5 = 170hp

nope, it is not the same engine as the 508. it is iMproved in many ways. there are as far as i remember 6 key improvements which are the turbo, the mapping, the piston design, compression ratio... hmmm, i can only remember 4 lah. but apart from the 6 key improvements, there are also other enhancements. and no, you cannot 'fix' the older engines with these parts. if you want a car with the M engine, the only way is to get the 408 turbo.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Nov 27 2012, 08:39 AM

if i am not mistaken the prince 1.6 engine from pug is their best selling engine available in all their models at different trim levels.

EP6CDTM (408t) carries the following mods:

1) Engine tuned to run on RON 87 petrol
2) Remapped ECU
3) New designed piston with lower compression
4) New designed catalyzer.
5) New engine oil filter housing with heat exchanger
6) New turbo charger
7) New fuel tank gauge unit with lower pressure pump to handle lower grade petrol.
8) A fuel filter to cater for hash atmospheric condition ( third world country).

Just wondering if 'My family had 3 previous generation Peugeots, all of which were CBU France and all had numerous problems. Same with the Korean makes.', why do u still buy Peugeot and another Korean ???


not from me ....yet

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Added on November 27, 2012, 11:31 amSorry for the late reply but was so damn busy. First and foremost, I am a 5'10'' dude and was looking for a segment D and found them too expansive and P408 though segment C was having all the quality that I needed at an affordable price.

What do I mean? Mazda 3 , jetta and focus all is too smallish and uncomfortable to me (and I believe would too for any one the size of my built) when mostly you will get 45++mm length +17xx mm width + 14XX mm height with wheelbase of 2,6++mm

Just to zoom in on the 3 (Mazda 3, Jetta and Focus ) compared to P408, below is the score card.
length width Height W/base
mazda 3 4580 1755 1470 2640
VW Jetta 4644 1778 1482 2651
Ford Focus 4534 1824 1466 2648
P 408 4682 1815 1525 2710

I sat in A P408, and I wanted nothing else after....Just go and compare to say the cheapest segement D, Nissan Teana
at RM138k, to top range VW passat, and even Mazda 6

length width Height W/base
Nissan Teana 4850 1795 1480 2775
Passat 4769 1820 1470 2712
Mazda 6 4735 1795 1440 2725

You will find P408 is the longest segment C but shorter to all sement Ds but P408 still comes in wider than a segment D's Teana and Mazda 6 narrower to a Passat by just a mere 5 mm but lo and behold at a height of 1525, it is heigher than all segment D available i.e. including camry, mondeo, accord, k5, sonata. The wheelbase of 2710 topple all segment C rival and is very close to again segment D'sPassat and Mazda 6

I was looking for room, and boy I have found plenty of room

Then looking at the widgets...althought having no start stop button/keyless entry compare to the lowest prized segmnet D Nissan Teana, at 109,888 2.0 NA compare to 138,000 same 2.0 NA , I still get Autolight, Aoto Wiper, Auto Cruze, electric Side mirror which Teana cannot give at 138k.

Need I say more?


This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Nov 27 2012, 11:31 AM

+1 to the above, I also enjoy the spacious that given from 408. Suites me who have 2 boy boy at this affordable price.

Am thinking to install door visor, any idea?

i think door visors disrupt the aerodynamics and increases cabin noise (wind)...thats y most (if not all?) continentals do not have door visors. do correct me if i'm wrong.

This post has been edited by shihian: Nov 27 2012, 12:24 PM

Ya, this is what I worry. Though the supplier claim the other way round, they said will improve aerodynamic and decrease wind sound from the window.

Because all those were previous generation cars and i have confidence that the current generation will be better. I dont have alot of confidence in Peugeot as some of their new generation cars were still having issues. Hence among the reasons why i chose the Optima over the 508. But i think both are still great cars with their respective plus points. Surely better bets compared to the other Japanese makes out there.

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Added on November 27, 2012, 12:53 pmA wider car doesnt neccessarily mean a wider interior. Alot depends on the side door panels, width of the door itself and seat design. I spent some time in the 408 last weekend and although it had good legroom but interior width was lacking. But for a C segment is more than sufficient but quite different to a D segment i must say.

As for wheelbase, although a 2710mm distance is small when you take the unit into consideration but in the automotive industry even a difference of 50mm is considered big. You can't say its very close in this sense.

Compared to other C segments, the 408 is surely top in terms of internal space and even design i might say. But i dont think it should be compared with the D segment category. Yes its closer to the dimensions of a D segment car but there's still a considerable difference.

In terms of specs, everbody knows that the Japs arent value for money which is why many of us are opting for other makes right? But what happens when you compare with a non Jap make like the Kia Forte 2.0L?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Nov 27 2012, 12:57 PM