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TSrnans
post Aug 29 2012, 01:19 AM, updated 14y ago

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Hi Everyone
Nice to know there are so many happy owners out there

I've owned a new 408 turbo the last one month or so
Why I bought this car is a very interesting if you all want to know is because of the passive safety features like the IC inflatable curtain airbag front and back in the event of a side impact, and NCAP safety rating of five even though it is a China NCAP rating

having owned several European cars in the past, I have found in the first instance that there are several issues that make this car stand out (DISSAPOINTINGLY) in terms of build quality...

1) No sump cover ie when you look down into the engine bay you see the ground below
This is obviously not what Peugeot intended, the sump guard protects the engine from obstacles and things lying on the road as well as maintai the aerodynamics of the car since the underside of the car can create a lot of turbulence and instability of the car at high speeds and affect fuel consumption too. and is a standard item in continental cars

2)Lack of undercoat below.... There are bare metal (paint covered) non undercoated panels below

3)Non adaptive nature of the 6 speed gearbox whih only changes gears at predetermined speeds not according to load making a Euro Star 5 emission engine very thirsty , I am comparing to my 12 year old CLK 230 supercharged Mercedes 5 speed auto which changes gears according to load and gives better fuel economy than this 408 despite weighing 300 Kg more.... I say non adaptive because the 1st gear changes to 2nd always at the same speed which is when the central locking locks the car// The gear change doesnt take advantage of the low end torque at all and if you choose sport mode its even more ridiculous, I will complain about this during my first service. All other gears change at predetermined speeds also, the most annoying is waiting for the gear to change to 4th which occurs at a ridiculous 2600 rpm when engine is warm, really annoying, usually end up swithing to tiptronic and changing manually

4) funny looking round sticker used to close up a metal hole in the front passenger door sills, really Chekai looking and will probably start leaking in time ( can buy a 50 cents rubber seal in spare part shops too.... just tell them the hole diameter and they will give you one )

5) Very bad "BUMP STEER" Ive heard a lot of complaints in the 308 about this and what it means is that the car steering tends to jerk when you hit a bump> I found it in the 3008, the 5008 and the 308 which all share the same suspension, the 407 and the 508 dont suffer from this very annoying occurence, I feel that there may be a problem with the wheel offset fitted to these models rather than the actiual suspension, will try to find out if Peugeot france has similar problems/ complaints but unfortunately, 408 isnt even on their european Website... maybe have to try DONG FENG China??? assembly


Definite PRO
Engine and Torque amazing, all those Altis and CIVIC owners keep seeing the flat torque peugeot take them without any problems, pity them !!!

Conclusion
Still a happy owner who wants to see improvement biggrin.gif

Well sorry to sound so negative but I am definitely not as unlucky as the guy whose car "broke down" 10 times
but i feel Nasim has to do a better job to really win the market with a car that has so much more potential, dont do the ching Chai Malaysia boleh bullshit, which we have all had enough of........................

TAKE CARE ALL

This post has been edited by rnans: Sep 6 2012, 09:13 AM
kahjye
post Aug 29 2012, 01:41 AM

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yaaaa.....

rcz also the same.

the brake also got "kiiiii" sound edi lol.

and the flipping mirror also got sound... = = dafuq peugeot
carrera_gt
post Aug 29 2012, 01:45 AM

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Nvm bro..

every thing is not perfect..

my proton is not perfect too..keke
kahjye
post Aug 29 2012, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 01:45 AM)
Nvm bro..

every thing is not perfect..

my proton is not perfect too..keke
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haa haaa...very funny.

carrera_gt
post Aug 29 2012, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 29 2012, 02:03 AM)
haa haaa...very funny.
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hahaha

its reality~
s@ni
post Aug 29 2012, 07:27 AM

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No 1,3,4,5 can be easily identified during test drive/shoroom visit..


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post Aug 29 2012, 07:56 AM

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Aisey TS, why u no buy K5?
stinger82
post Aug 29 2012, 08:02 AM

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k5 does look better imho thumbup.gif
tombyron
post Aug 29 2012, 08:18 AM

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WOW..like that the 6 speeder also very high comsumption..eventhough it's only 1.6..
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post Aug 29 2012, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 01:45 AM)
Nvm bro..

every thing is not perfect..

my proton is not perfect too..keke
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 29 2012, 02:03 AM)
haa haaa...very funny.
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 02:04 AM)
hahaha

its reality~
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Carrera..our proton is no where close to Pugs..see lor..kena laugh ='(


Added on August 29, 2012, 8:24 am
QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 01:45 AM)
Nvm bro..

every thing is not perfect..

my proton is not perfect too..keke
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 29 2012, 02:03 AM)
haa haaa...very funny.
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 02:04 AM)
hahaha

its reality~
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Carrera..our proton is no where close to Pugs..see lor..kena laugh ='(

This post has been edited by madman20: Aug 29 2012, 08:24 AM
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post Aug 29 2012, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 29 2012, 08:24 AM)
Carrera..our proton is no where close to Pugs..see lor..kena laugh ='(


Added on August 29, 2012, 8:24 am
Carrera..our proton is no where close to Pugs..see lor..kena laugh ='(
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mine oso proton, kena laugh oso cry.gif
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post Aug 29 2012, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(rnans @ Aug 29 2012, 01:19 AM)
Hi Everyone
Nice to know there are so many happy owners out there

I've owned a new 408 turbo the last one month or so
Why I bought this car is a very interesting if you all want to know is because of the passive safety features like the IC inflatable curtain airbag front and back in the event of a side impact, and NCAP safety rating of five even though it is a China NCAP rating

having owned several European cars in the past, I have found in the first instance that there are several issues that make this car stand out (DISSAPOINTINGLY) in terms of build quality...

1) No sump cover ie when you look down into the engine bay you see the ground below
    This is obviously not what Peugeot intended, the sump guard protects the engine from obstacles and things lying on the road as well as maintai the aerodynamics of the car since the underside of the car can create a lot of turbulence and instability of the car at high speeds and affect fuel consumption too. and is a standard item in continental cars

2)Lack of undercoat below.... There are bare metal (paint covered) non undercoated panels below

3)Non adaptive nature of the 6 speed gearbox whih only changes gears at predetermined speeds not according to load making a Euro Star 5 emission engine very thirsty , I am comparing to my 12 year old CLK 230 supercharged Mercedes 5 speed auto which changes gears according to load and gives better fuel economy than this 408 despite weighing 300 Kg more.... I say non adaptive because the 1st gear changes to 2nd always at the same speed which is when the central locking locks the car//  The gear change doesnt take advantage of the low end torque at all and if you choose sport mode its even more ridiculous, I will complain about this during my first service. All other gears change at predetermined speeds also, the most annoying is waiting for the gear to change to 4th which occurs at a ridiculous 2600 rpm when engine is warm, really annoying, usually end up swithing to tiptronic and changing manually

4) funny looking round sticker used to close up a metal hole in the front passenger door sills, really Chekai looking and will probably start leaking in time ( can buy  a 50 cents rubber seal in spare part shops too.... just tell them the hole diameter and they will give you one )

5) Very bad "BUMP STEER" Ive heard a lot of complaints in the 308 about this and what it means is that the car steering tends to jerk when you hit a bump> I found it in the 3008, the 5008 and the 308 which all share the same suspension, the 407 and the 508 dont suffer from this very annoying occurence, I  feel that there may be a problem with the wheel offset fitted to these models rather than the actiual suspension, will try to find out if Peugeot france has similar problems/ complaints but unfortunately, 408 isnt even on their european Website... maybe have to try DONG FENG China??? assembly
Definite PRO
Engine and Torque amazing, all those Altis and CIVIC owners keep seeing the flat torque peugeot take them without any problems, pity them !!!

Conclusion
Still a happy owner who wants to see  improvement biggrin.gif

Well sorry to sound so negative but I am definitely not as unlucky as the guy whose car "brokes downs" 10 times
but i feel Nasim has to do a better job to really win the market with a car that has so much more potential, dont do the ching Chai Malaysia boleh bullshit, which we have all had enough of........................

TAKE CARE ALL
I must commend you on being able to write such an unbiased report on your car. Its rare we get such openess. But yes i agree with you. Peugeot have some really good cars but they really need to step up their game if they wanna compete against the likes of VW and the Japanese.


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post Aug 29 2012, 09:05 AM

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The fact that not many point out Pug Malaysia is under Nasim aka Naza that handles Kia and their "own" range of cars..

Yet..many cucuk Kia and Naza cars so badly laugh.gif
IluvProton
post Aug 29 2012, 10:44 AM

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hopefully PUG 508 wont dissapoint us
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post Aug 29 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Aug 29 2012, 10:44 AM)
hopefully PUG 508 wont dissapoint us
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K5 will definitely not disappoint

it will never give u up
it will never let you down
it will never turn around
and desert u


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post Aug 29 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 29 2012, 01:45 AM)
Nvm bro..

every thing is not perfect..

my proton is not perfect too..keke
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Bro.. its different...

If proton have a problem... u are suppose to curse them 9 generations and rant about it in 10 different forum...

If a continental have similar problem... you just have a lemon car...bad luck.


Added on August 29, 2012, 10:57 am
QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 29 2012, 10:53 AM)
K5 will definitely not disappoint

it will never give u up
it will never let you down
it will never turn around
and desert u
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Oi! That's copyrighted! tongue.gif

This post has been edited by MeToo: Aug 29 2012, 10:57 AM
IluvProton
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 29 2012, 05:53 AM)
K5 will definitely not disappoint

it will never give u up
it will never let you down
it will never turn around
and desert u
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guess so. K5 look promising
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post Aug 29 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 29 2012, 01:41 AM)
yaaaa.....

rcz also the same.

the brake also got "kiiiii" sound edi lol.

and the flipping mirror also got sound... = = dafuq peugeot
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i'm pretty sure u know 308 owner change it to EBC green stuff brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 29 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Aug 29 2012, 11:36 AM)
i'm pretty sure u know 308 owner change it to EBC green stuff  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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turboja u no turbo u shallap! tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2012, 11:43 AM

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the thing i love abt pug is their 1.6thp engine. hahahaha the rest, no idea.

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