Premier 2.5 storey superlink house with private pool.
Built-up 4,250sf with 4 parking bays.
With only monthly installment for less RM 5k per month after C.F.
Show house ready for viewing.

This post has been edited by truly_malaysian: Feb 24 2012, 09:38 AM

so it's definitely more than a million, huh?
but superlink with >4k built up, that's good.

Difficult to imagine even place which is around 35km from kl city center now launching for more than a million. Beyond the affordability of majority of house buyers. Now i think people have to places like Beranang, Nilai, Salak Tinggi, Sepang, Banting if want to buy new landed houses for around 400 - 500k.

they not targeted kl ppl lah... targeted cyberjaya ceo, coo, cco, cto, cfo, c....

Developers are only interested in high margin properties. That's why in town they are building more and more mid to high end condos. One fine day in the future, there will be a reality check.

really interesting but installment to make 30years? lol

The built up is larger than semi-d and can park 4 cars! How much is the sales price for RM 5k instalment a month?

I am sure maintenance wont be expensive since you would be hiding in your on roof top most of the time, and wont need a clubhouse.

will it be dangerous for children?

Wow, this is something new/different.

Haha I am also worry that. If there is a leak, the water will flood the whole house, isn't it? There is something so heavy on top, the house seems is under constant threat, bad feng shui isn't it ?

Has been to their show house and see the roof top pool, simple calculation the whole weight of water is about 20,000 kgs !!

What more worry is how much the cost of repair on leaking after the defect liability period ( normally 2 years after CF ) ?

The pool is located outside the children room, on top of the living room. The whole project is made with sand bricks. Buyers, beware!

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Added on February 25, 2012, 4:17 pmThe inside built up is huge, but does not look it is 4250 sq ft.



This post has been edited by twins9: Feb 25 2012, 04:17 PM

Nusaputra is the one with land crack/sinking issue?

Swimming pool on the roof is the current trend overseas like in Singapore. Reflexions concept is cutting edge. Many other projects will offer this concept.
The are condos in kl with a pool for every unit,eg one kl next to m.o.
M'sia got banyak orang kaya.

In addition, there are also many condos/apts with swimming pool above carpark level or on rooftop.

It would be better if they did the swimming pool on top of car porch instead of on top of living room.

Trend is one thing, practicality is another. If Nusaputra houses can sink, what makes you think Reflexions wont?

this one pay 3k to own one as well?

Didnt bother to ask after seeing the real thing. If die die want to invest there, just buy a semid at Nusaputra - half the price, and build your own pool.

They can charge Rm1.29mil but wont even give you a decent ensuite bathroom. You will laugh at the master ensuite bathroom....look just like any ordinary bathroom, small and cramp. No feel of luxury at all.

Kitchen is also small as they want to make the living room as huge as possible.

There is no guest room on ground floor, master bedroom is on first floor and the 2 smaller rooms on 2nd floor, overlooking the swimming pool.

This house is only meant for those without kids or old folks. If you have children, can you sleep with peace of mind knowing they are steps away from a 4 ft deep pool? If you have old ppl, where can they sleep? Maid's room or on top floor? Give the old folks the master bedroom on first floor? You and hubby cramp in one room...where the rest of your kids cramp in the other?

4250 sq ft...I dont know how they come out with it....unless they include the airspace in the double ceiling area, and the roof covering the car porch.

The design may be nice like Singapore or whatever country you can think of....but practicality is out.

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Added on February 26, 2012, 8:47 amThe road is great if you work in Cyberjaya....but with that price, I really expected more.

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Added on February 26, 2012, 8:55 amD Island designs are much nicer....I must say.



This post has been edited by twins9: Feb 26 2012, 08:55 AM

Agree. There are many things proven working in overseas but when do in Malaysia they just fail just like anything else.

IMHO,d island houses r big but r really outdated design,v china ah pek.
And just look at their quality,even d interior design n landscape also china ah pek.
I much prefer ytl's lake edge or desa park city modern look,so refreshing.

1 man's meat is another's poison..

there r houses with big rooms n baths but no high ceiling, pool, 2 living halls etc etc...if one is conventional, u can go for those homes.

Reflexion to me is something revolutionary. Catered for those lifestyle dudes, on the go, modern canggih ppl, small family. These category of ppl - i think reflexion suits them..

That is why there are always diff products for diff needs in the market. Always something new. Something to look forward to

Malaysia got many people with deep pockets.. Been to reflexion and it house to show off.. Its a different kind of design.. but don't think it will attract family man.. small kitchen.. normal bathroom size.. 3 bedrooms only for 3 storey house.. Price wise.. quite attractive compared to new launches with the same built up in the surrounding area..

dare to be different..

Leasehold is not worth the price

Lake Edge is "refresing" ? !!

You sure ?

If die die want to stay near cyberjaya, why not buy Mah Sing semid Clover at about Rm1.5mil? Freehold, real semid, you have clubhouse, no worries about leaking swimming pool and they use better bricks. I think the 4250 sq ft reflexion is not real as it doesnt seem much bigger than my 4k sq ft house. And, I really do think MS quality may be better. Access road is much better than this Reflexions.

Clover is conventional semi-d,suitable 4 families.
Reflexion is more lifestyle like sunway challis,duta villa @setia alam or symphony hills super link.
I bought a unit at symphony hills. I find reflexion super link is d same price but much bigger. Double volume hall is v much higher plus I love d rooftop pool,damn lansi. Wanted corner unit $1.6m,but already kena sapu,so now thinking of taking inter lot this wk.

i wonder how the owner need to maintenace the pool... how many quantity of clorine needed to put into the water??

The New Semi-D in Bukit Puchong is RM1.8, but no pool.. so few hundred thousand more u got a free hold semi -D

Anyone got any idea what is the selling price for this project ??

Visited the show unit last weekend.

Really impressive and refreshing concept especially the real double volume facing the linear park and the pool at the roof top.

I like the reversed concept ala DPC and SG where living hall is at the back facing linear garden and kitchen at the front.

Unlike conventional design, for this one u see 'gardens' and not cars, be it ur own or those passing by ur house when u relax at the living hall. The 22 ft double volume and full glass really create a sense of space and brings in the natural light.

When u have a lot of groceries to carry, u can deliver it straight to the wet kitchen without going through the living hall. The utility room beside the wet kitchen is handy if u have a maid (it has it's own bathroom too).

Roof top pool is nice but dangerous for small kids.

Stylish it may be, practicality is lacking a little. A lot of space is utilized for the double volume, GF living hall, 1F family area and 2F lounge area, leaving quite little for actual useful space like kitchen and bedrooms/bath rooms. Only 3 rooms +1 utility for a built up which claimed to be 4,250 sf?

Bath rooms are relatively small and all of them are without windows, so no fresh air to rid the smell after a 'big job'.

It may not be everyone's taste but it appeals to young/small/life style families or high flying couples.

If u got a budget of 1.298Mil (b4 100K rebate) it is worth considering for own use if u like to impress friends and relatives and enjoy the lifestyle concept, what more with DIBS and 5k D/P only.

This post has been edited by macho dog: Feb 27 2012, 07:19 PM

hmmm...there's quite a bit of concern here bout the pool being dangerous to young kids.

but isnt there a folding door which parents can lock to prevent unauthorised usage? when i was there last wk, i rem seeing the folding door...????

any confirmation from those who have visited the show house?

Visited the show room last Saturday and this is mho:-

Pros
1) nice lanscape (will be very beautiful)
2) gated & guarded
3) peaceful and quite environment
4) garden at the living
5) Easy access to KL, KLIA, Putrajaya, Cyberjaya, Shah Alam, USJ, through MEX, SKVE, NKVE

Cons
1) Only 3 rooms + 1 utilities (would be good if there is additional 1 or 2 rooms)
2) Better to buit a clubhouse rather than a pool at each house (must be maintaned everyday or will be breeding ground for mosquitos)
3) The living area (ground floor) look like a lobby
4) 1st floor look like a mezzanine floor
5) Master bathroom (even do not have bathtub)
6) Leasehold


This post has been edited by truly_malaysian: Feb 27 2012, 01:15 PM

This post has been edited by sampool: Feb 27 2012, 01:27 PM

Visited the show unit today. First impression is very impressive. Other than that is a complete waste of space for the house design. Is only stylish which is attractive. Not worth the price

what is the selling price ?

1.25 mil min price

so next phase they should:

1 - maintain kitchen at car porch.. - easy to carry groceries
2 - maintain living hall facing garden.. much nicer view more natural lights and maybe fresh air to come in..
3 - amend the bathrooms size to be more elegant.. especially for the master bedroom..
4 - get rid of the swimming pool.. just make balcony is sufficient may be? or make it an option.. if buyer want swimming pool than can install.. if not.. then normal balcony.. different price..

at the current design.. people go whoaahhh at living hall only.. buyers rethink when climb up the stairs..

Yea, the double volume ceiling gives the awesome first impression but took up too much space. Basically one master bedroom or maybe 2 standard rooms is taken away from the 1st floor just to create that kind of design.

For this refleXion, the floor to floor space is so high that I think they should do away with the double volume to create more useful space and yet still able to impress with the garden facing living hall.

Double volume is practical only to large semi-d or bungalows.

I'm wondering how metrogen can claim 4,250sf b/u.

The numbers dun seems to add up. A quick calculation, though not precise (i dun hv the layout with me now)

Lot size 24'x80'.
Minus car porch and offset at the back, effective built up area about 24'x50'
GF b/u = 1,200 sf
1F b/u = 1,200 sf x 2/3 = 800 sf (double volume takes away 1/3)
2F b/u = 1,200sf
Total: 3,200 sf.

Can anyone confirm the roof top pool open area be counted as b/u? Remember it is a 2.5 storey and not 3s.

If not counted in, u take 1/3 out from the top floor, the the net total b/u is only 2,800 sf.

Correct me if i am wrong.

This post has been edited by macho dog: Feb 27 2012, 07:20 PM

Lifestyle? Wait till you move in and realize all your neighbours are flippers and the pools are full of mosquitoes!

With that huge pane of glass, you will not be able to add grills, so you really have to depend on your guards to keep you safe.

Maybe someone can ask the SA for details of how they come up with 4250 sq ft. I can guarantee, no one knows!

Double volume is expected n normal in semid n bungalows.

If link has it, that makes it out of ordinary ie special

I think lot size is 24 x 85 n not 80

Let say lot size is 24 x 85...
Ground floor 20 ft from gate - front recess. back 5 ft, remainder 60 ft

If build to the max 24 x 60 = 1440 sq ft
3 floors, say 1440 x 3 = 4320 sq ft

This is maximum available space for building and I dont think they max it.

Even if they did, the middle floor is not full...say 1000 sq ft build up??

so, 1440 x 2 = 2880 + 1000 = 3880 sq ft. ??

I'm reminded of my visit to sunway challis townhouse in Kota damansara which got same concept of hall facing linear garden. That time $500k 4 townhouse I thought was gila pricing. Now $1.2m my fren dont wanna sell.

It seems that these lifestyle houses r very easy to rent out compared to conventional housing n fetch much higher rental compared to even semidetached. So u may want to look beyond kachang Putih issues,coz I think d house is see beh swee n lansi. Btw Setia ecoglades r giving pool to their super link also!

As I said,go see symphony hills then u will see a v big difference.

I foresee at least $300k upside if we flip. If rental mkt good,maybe more. Challis 1.5 townhouse already $1.2m,duta villa 2 $1.8m n dpc $3.2m.

Imho,if u can't tell d diff between lifestyle n mass housing,then better stick to buying mass housing. U can still make money investing in mass housing.

This post has been edited by Bahkuteh: Feb 27 2012, 11:19 PM

if no body stays at the house.. pool should be empty.. balconies every where.. pool area big open doors.. and i don't think owners will install grills.. especial the ones at living hall.. that is glass wall not windows.. spoil the view anyway.. really need good neighbours and good security guard.. and the developer already include alarm system..

dunno lah where can get 4250sqft.. maybe gross built-up inclusive car porch

This post has been edited by obiey: Feb 28 2012, 12:12 AM

Nusaputra seems to be full of mass housing except D Island and Reflexions at the moment.

walao ehhhhhh!!! ala namewee style

D location not that bad with d access to elite, only lacking is amenities, if d developer dun sell with concept and lifestyle, it will be hard to move the house, D' island has proved lifestyle work, I think Reflexion still can make it, mho.

What is the difference in concept between these 2 projects? Which has a better lifestyle?

IMHO,I think d'island lake is fantastic,blue n huge. It's got great potential but 2 drawback.

First, price already jacked up from 980k to $1.6m. So if u go in now,when u want to flip u r fighting with early investors whose cost below $1m.

2nd issue lbs project like saujana putra is like talam project,look d same. Tiger never loses its stripes.
So going into d'island at new price may not have much upside.

As I said,at $1.2m in reflexion I think got at least 300k upside. If u look past d kachang Putih issues u may agree with me.

Just my opinion. I still respect you guys ideas.

Btw,pls check out superlink mirage by OSK in cyberjaya. That one if got $$$,can buy for own stay.

This post has been edited by Bahkuteh: Feb 27 2012, 11:59 PM

D Island up from 900k to RM1.6mil??? Wah...really looking for suckers then. How to justify doubling the price?

indeed.

I prefer to stay at mass housing. Can't afford the luxury of paying Rm1mil plus for townhouse and the maintenance fees.

Bro,never say never.

You may suddenly want luxury in your life. Go check out the Porsche and Ferrari owners club in Malaysia. Most are 40 plus y.o.,and some already Kepala botak also want to drive supercar.

Nowadays,a lot of rich dudes around. Don't believe what politicians say,actually d Chinese now r damn loaded. Where do u think d money d banks lend come from? Got many guys with huge fixed deposit.

Anyway,just mho.

Personally, would prefer a clubhouse with full facilities than a small pool in the house because....

If you are at the clubhouse, you can socialize with other residents and feel you are "Out of the house".
You don't have to maintain the pool. The cleaners would mop up your spills and footprints.
You can enjoy other facilities like sauna, spa and gym.
The clubhouse view would be different from what you see at home, so you feel refreshed.

Having a pool at your doorstep.....is good for lansi showoff, but you may not use the pool often enough to justify the maintenance.

It is too small to really swim in unless you convert it to a smart pool.

If you are entertaining, carrying food up 3 storeys, then down again for washing is not convenient or practical. You would end up bbqing right on the car porch and then up to 3rd floor for a game of pool or drinks on the deck.

Of course, I have not lived in a house/condo with pool before....so I wont really know how luxurious it is.

Hv u noticed that the pool at most club are under utilised.

First reason, after some time its quite lecer to go there .

Second and main reason, the club pool is a public toilet, everyone swim after games and nobody climbs out to take a piss, water never changed since opening even birds drink and shit in it at nite.

Pls dont let ur children swim in it .btw their towels also bad news .

This post has been edited by Mansonlife: Feb 29 2012, 01:05 PM

Firstly, the guard are locals, some are good some are bad, Amber in Precint 2 was broken into before.
Secondly, a lot of Amber bathrooms are leaking, still want a swimming above your roof from this developer ???

there have sme 24 x 80 but not many units

After coming out from Reflexions, you would drive pass Nusaputra. Just look at the 2 showhouses next to the club/office. Both are boarded up and look slanted. They have sunk in.

For buyers of Reflexion, you better pray there is no settling issue or that rooftop swimming pool may give you more headaches than pleasure.

my fwen stays at verve mont kiara rm950psf also leak le bros...toilet. Got hair line crack also. Developer supposed to be super famous bukit kiara prop.

most imp is ur matter being solved urgently. he got that and he is a happy man now

This post has been edited by wajaray: Feb 29 2012, 11:18 AM

the pool sooner or later will become dustbin or store room...

hmm...

imagine - u met 1 solid chick at a party. She wants to follow u home. Once u get home, both have serious urge. With a pool in my home, i just need to drag her up 2 stairs. With a clubhse, i need to drive out again. once there, apa stim pun potong alr. Worse when she gets peeped by dirty hairy ham sap lou who r alr in d public pool.

so how huh? go home eat vege lo

yes.. that is the selling point. then, the place sure stay with alot of ham sap lou..

Firstly, I wont bring a girl home for ons. 2ndly, what if she doesnt want to leave or worse, drown in the pool after a few drinks?

She cant swim naked in that pool as all your neighbours could see!

Naked

i think this house now worth RM2 mil now.

hmm....been follow this forum from early, cannot stop laughing to myself and want to ask u what village u come from?? drown in pool?? u think still small we all???? very clear you dont belong to this highend group and your rubbish reflect yourself being no taste and no standard. what shame on you!!

Classic personal attack post ! From a pure technical discussion turned into a personal attack.

Bro...correct me if my facts are wrong...Whitney Houston may have drowned in bathtub....because of overdose or after heavy drinks...anything can happen...and everyone here free for opinion and comment...that the reason we call it a forum..........and do not personally attack anyone if they chose to disagree with you

+ 100

The drowning part was meant to be a joke, but the risk of leakage is always there, especially when the pool is" suspended".



This post has been edited by twins9: Mar 1 2012, 01:34 PM

Aiseh,so scared of drowning better dont take bath,go for dry cleaning.
Council is rite,ur r talking rubbish twins9.
This forum for intelligent discussion. Keep ur backward ideas to yourself.



This post has been edited by Mansonlife: Feb 29 2012, 07:19 PM

Wah,piang. Twins9 article on china girl in Singapore deleted. Good job,moderator.

I think use forum to discuss valid points. Reflexion is a lifestyle property. So don't bring up kampung issues. Jaga standard lah.

If you don't want lifestyle property,it's your choice. But don't impose kampung issues on others. It's like asking why Ferrari California only got two doors and why the car roof can open? Stick to proton better,got 4 doors and solid roof.

my personal view.

a. 1st impression, stunt me and my hubby. love it. nice modern design, nice landscape and nice and big guardhouse. concept nice where living room is facing linear garden and not car porch.

b. interior space & layout - kitchen by the developer id make it small. so my plan is to extend my kitchen.

c. pool is lovely at top floor. plan to conver as a water garden instead or japanese garden. as for swimming pool, it is too small for a swim.
as for children safety, can just simply install baricade fence with lock.

d. rooms are limited but just nice as have big living room space. ideal for my children to play.

e. small store room.

f. 4250ft for less than RM 350 pqsft is cheap. where to find for this kind of concept elsewhere?

g. super high ceiling, problem is how to install lighting and maintain it. my plan is to do plaster ceiling and lower it down. or create another level within the living room. the place ideal for mini library.


anyway, love this pool villa and bought one intermediate unit despite people views from the forum here. yippie.

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Added on March 1, 2012, 5:17 pmi have asked the developer regarding the concern of the water leakage from the pool after reading from the forum.

he said they have hired a consultancy to build the pool. it is proven not to leak.

ok, lah...50-50 can believe but we will see the leakage effect after 6 months or 1 yr stay.

concern is , got warranty period ? forgot to ask.


cant wait to move in



This post has been edited by stephliew: Mar 1 2012, 05:17 PM

Any pix? Anyone ?

This post has been edited by wajaray: Mar 2 2012, 10:34 AM

where u work?

Kl, y?

ok.. usually ppl work in cyber, klia or puchong will prefer this place... boring place. but, if u work somewhere in sri petaling still ok lah via mex higw.

How long does it takes from Relexions to KL via Mex?

lol. if be your neighbours so lucky me will be

$1.2m for 4250 sf just $282 psf.

Well, for those who bought this house thinking that they will be considered "highend" or elite....all the best.

Twins9,if people hv bought new house you should congratulate them and wish them well. Giving such sarcastic remark is really bad taste.

Since you said you prefer mass housing, then please carry on. No need to be nasty to other forummers here. Show some etiquette.

Twins9, no standard. My advice to you, leave it if you don't like it or because you not enough $ for it. Thanks.

left 6 units when i went to see yesterday

That mean they made at least one sale yesterday, because the time I was there they said 7 unit. Haha.

So BKT, did u booked a unit or wait for the next corner unit to be launched?

SA told me after they sold this 22 units, they will launch those units facing the park (same row), expecting price higher. I noticed that there is a nice corner unit.

Checked with SA, 5 units left... looks like many people loves this place... good news.

I luv it too but can not buy.

I love private swimming pools!! But can't afford too!

The swimming pool, I had a wrong impression of the pool until I went to take a look. Honestly I think it is not for swimming, more for dipping in water. Maybe more like a bigger version of bathtub or a KOI pond.

Ooops stepping on people's toe again ? Thousand apology .....

Public pool better mar

The ppl who bought it for the pool do not plan to swim in it. Just for show only unless you install a smart pool.

Even most bungalow oso dun hv full size lap pool leh...

Good good, can convert to Koi pond if u like

If future I hav swimming pool I will invite u guys for the bikini party. Ok? But not this small pool... kidding...

To me, that's a better use. I will convert it to a glass window koi pond. People in the living hall can watch the koi from the ground floor living room. Magnificent !

Hi,Macho Dog bro,

I did not buy coz have to sell another property to buy at reflexion,my budget max out. But my sister bought one, so I will masuk nama later.

Buying to flip coz of $280 psf is still ok. Now biasa apartment in puchong already $400 psf,not much upside. So here got chan to make little profit,I hope lah.



This post has been edited by Bahkuteh: Mar 5 2012, 07:47 PM

Congrats on ur eventual purchase.

I believe there is high chances for upside since u r an early bird for the 1st of it's kind in Puchong.

Judging from the response, only 5 left after about 1 week, things look good.

Remember there are 400+ units to be launched later and hopefully the number game works it's magic on ur investment.

This post has been edited by macho dog: Mar 5 2012, 08:20 PM

First phase is usually quite safe.

I compare with many other semi-Ds and the space can't match this one.. If you try and stand at every corner of the house, it still looks good. I felt a peaceful atmosphere around and it's good for living.

For the small pool, it's also good to think of a Japanese style spa feature environment.

The only setback for those who believes feng shui would be the tall pylon look alike on the left hand side opposite of the highway... what a pity... moreover, the nearby amenities is quite hopeless unless the ongoing buyer's power can somehow influence the developer to do some improvements in its surrounding in the next 2 years. ... buyers let's stick together to do wonders here.

The price given is probably a two years later price so still consider reasonably safe even if the economy collapse in the next two years and say property market generally depletes 5% so on... so the downside risk is actually more or less calculated.