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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Mar 29 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(yeohsheng @ Mar 29 2012, 12:09 AM)
i also waiting for the beta xD, more stable and less risk, hopefully.
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Void warranty. I'll wait till after warranty over, by then Beta version 2 or 3 out liao
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post Mar 29 2012, 12:27 AM

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how long is the warranty ald? i ald forget haha.
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:51 AM

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Warranty should be 1 year. If you brick your phone from flashing I doubt they can tell that you flashed something illegal there because the phone can't even boot up.

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post Mar 29 2012, 11:30 AM

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Standard warranty for original set is 1 year and accessories is 6months except stated as other wise
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 28 2012, 04:52 PM)
It's for the review, which I kept modifying lol, but not the usual review. I'm not really suitable to write review or stuffs like that, but since it's required, I just write my own, about my findings, my opinion, rants, complaints and stuffs.

I've read that, but didn't go through in detail. Today, I read another blog which talks about how the developer can write its state permanent storage.
So, in theory, it's actually can support more than 5 apps as those apps not in the "mutli-tasking view" still have it's state preserve, just that it's not in the "multi-tasking view" (something like a limit of "recently app used list").
But I think the difference is, those app in multi-tasking view will have priority over being tombstoned and can have background service running? If the app is being remove from multi-tasking view, possibly the background service will no longer be allowed to run. Need to test it out first. The behavior is dependent on how the developer implement it.
But IE has something unique, it still continue to load in the background, so assuming it's process is running, if I leave it in multi-tasking view and didn't close it, it doesn't seems to consume battery or resources, unlike N9, which have true multi-tasking, the browser will actually consume resources. I assume Windows Phone, the IE will be in dormant state after finish loading.
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Oh! So I guess your review still not done? Haha. Ya I know what you mean on write reviews. Can become very long with all those. But I guess good also have such a comprehensive review. thumbup.gif

Well I guess it's how u define multi-tasking. An app being able to resume in some manner? Or an app being able to resume without needing to reload things? Coz on WP, even though u can resume a killed app, it'll spend time reloading the app persistance data then have to refresh it's view. This of course takes time & ppl will interpret as 'lag'.

There are 2 other things apps can do after exit. Batch processing & background service. Batch processing is where you can exit the app but it stays in the background to finish a task in a defined period of time. Good eg for this would be any background uploads/downloads that need to be done. There's a time limit to this & if exceeded usually the background task will be killed & error reported.

Backgrond service though runs all the time, but very limited task can be done. Usually reserved to just check for notifications.

I think IE is a special case in WP. They must have put it higher priority so that as long as you've run it recently, it's not tombstoned unless really not used very long.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 28 2012, 04:52 PM)
Probably the brightness settings? Or the light sensor? When I send to Nokia Service Centre last time, we compare with another customer's N8, it's obvious mine were worst. But ding dong ding dong, there's nothing wrong with the device, which later I learn about the banding thing through more research.
Anyway, luckily it was not my primary device, so it doesn't really affect me, but that time I just want to know what's wrong and is it my device have problem; If it's the display, maybe Nokia can take note of it for their future device, if it's software related, maybe they can look into it. Only know it's banding issue, but didn't know was caused by display or software until your explanation, lol.

So, I think Nokia should take notice on this issue about the display.
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I've tested with full brightness in normal room light to see my vids but didn't notice bad banding also. Just low light noise. Hehe.

Anyway, from what I've read, the screen supplier for Nokia also have trouble with the same banding prob so I think that's why it wasn't fixed during that time. How to fix when your supplier also can't fix? Who's the supplier? Samseng! laugh.gif

Now of course different story lah.
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post Mar 29 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 29 2012, 11:40 AM)
Oh! So I guess your review still not done? Haha. Ya I know what you mean on write reviews. Can become very long with all those. But I guess good also have such a comprehensive review.  thumbup.gif
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Not done, when I pass the device around I also have no time to really explore so cannot really write, unless just a brief impression; but anyway, mine is really long (like a long story - "cheong hei"), lol, just as you can see how I type in forums, lol.


QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 29 2012, 11:40 AM)
Well I guess it's how u define multi-tasking. An app being able to resume in some manner? Or an app being able to resume without needing to reload things? Coz on WP, even though u can resume a killed app, it'll spend time reloading the app persistance data then have to refresh it's view. This of course takes time & ppl will interpret as 'lag'.

There are 2 other things apps can do after exit. Batch processing & background service. Batch processing is where you can exit the app but it stays in the background to finish a task in a defined period of time. Good eg for this would be any background uploads/downloads that need to be done. There's a time limit to this & if exceeded usually the background task will be killed & error reported.

Backgrond service though runs all the time, but very limited task can be done. Usually reserved to just check for notifications.

I think IE is a special case in WP. They must have put it higher priority so that as long as you've run it recently, it's not tombstoned unless really not used very long.
I've tested with full brightness in normal room light to see my vids but didn't notice bad banding also. Just low light noise. Hehe.
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True, it depends the behavior of the application. For those application that will be permanently remove from memory, I notice it will stored its state into permanent storage, so when I resume, I got this "resuming..." screen. I forgot which app was that already. Overall, the memory management is good, and similar like Apple concept, the developer need to handle the behavior on their program and store the state, the OS will kill when it need memory. This way, the OS will have more stability as any problem, it's the app, the OS will not be affected.

Yea, IE seems to have special priority. Even I have nothing in my Multi-tasking window, the next day, I open IE, all my tabs is there, and the contents are still available (no internet connection). Only if I restart, it will clear of the content, but the tabs is still there with the thumbnails and address, when I access it, the it will tries to refresh.
They can apply this to their Office, if the document not yet been save, the OS can save as temporary file in permanent storage; so even after we restart the device or crash (somehow), everything will still be in tact, just like our desktop version office.

QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 29 2012, 11:40 AM)
Anyway, from what I've read, the screen supplier for Nokia also have trouble with the same banding prob so I think that's why it wasn't fixed during that time. How to fix when your supplier also can't fix? Who's the supplier? Samseng!  laugh.gif

Now of course different story lah.
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LoL! But during N8 time, when I notice this issue, I check with my colleague's Samsung Wave, there's no banding issue, his display was smooth and more clear. I guess the one on N8 might be older or also maybe due to the resolution?

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 29 2012, 02:37 PM)
Not done, when I pass the device around I also have no time to really explore so cannot really write, unless just a brief impression; but anyway, mine is really long (like a long story - "cheong hei"), lol, just as you can see how I type in forums, lol.
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Hahaha!!! Don't forget to give me the link to your "cheong hei" review when you're done. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 29 2012, 02:37 PM)
True, it depends the behavior of the application. For those application that will be permanently remove from memory, I notice it will stored its state into permanent storage, so when I resume, I got this "resuming..." screen. I forgot which app was that already. Overall, the memory management is good, and similar like Apple concept, the developer need to handle the behavior on their program and store the state, the OS will kill when it need memory. This way, the OS will have more stability as any problem, it's the app, the OS will not be affected.

Yea, IE seems to have special priority. Even I have nothing in my Multi-tasking window, the next day, I open IE, all my tabs is there, and the contents are still available (no internet connection). Only if I restart, it will clear of the content, but the tabs is still there with the thumbnails and address, when I access it, the  it will tries to refresh.
They can apply this to their Office, if the document not yet been save, the OS can save as temporary file in permanent storage; so even after we restart the device or crash (somehow), everything will still be in tact, just like our desktop version office.
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Yeah, very true that this method of OS management gives more stability. So I wish that Nokia gave me a switch to toggle autokill apps when not enough memory in N9. Hehehe!

Well, improvements are always coming so that kind of feature in their Office app might happen in the next few updates. The improvements in Office from the ori WP7 they say was huge. It was very very buggy in the ori WP7.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 29 2012, 02:37 PM)
LoL! But during N8 time, when I notice this issue, I check with my colleague's Samsung Wave, there's no banding issue, his display was smooth and more clear. I guess the one on N8 might be older or also maybe due to the resolution?
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Oh, didn't realise Samsung Wave was using AMOLED. Anyway, most of the complaints seem to be on Samsung Omnia 7 & Samsung Focus. A good example is here.
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Hello, everyone! I'm a current HTC HD2 with Android installed.
I'm impressed with NITDROID's work on N9 and N9 can be considered as a successor to aging HD2.

I intend to buy N9 once NITDROID gets stable, so just want to ask you guys. Is N9 good and solid? Any problems?

Hope to join you guys soon.
Please advise.
Thank you.
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post Mar 29 2012, 04:32 PM

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why would you come for n9 only for the nitdroid? if only for that, why not you go get an andriod phone?
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Mar 29 2012, 04:26 PM)
Hello, everyone! I'm a current HTC HD2 with Android installed.
I'm impressed with NITDROID's work on N9 and N9 can be considered as a successor to aging HD2.

I intend to buy N9 once NITDROID gets stable, so just want to ask you guys. Is N9 good and solid? Any problems?

Hope to join you guys soon.
Please advise.
Thank you.
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If you want an android OS, best get android phone, lots and lots of choices. If you are thinking of getting n9 to get a taste of meego, then ok. What are the features which are must have for you? Apps and games are not n9 strong points.
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QUOTE(yeohsheng @ Mar 29 2012, 04:32 PM)
why would you come for n9 only for the nitdroid? if only for that, why not you go get an andriod phone?
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May be he like the good look of the N9? It sure looks better than SG2 or iphone4 my friends were using.

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post Mar 29 2012, 06:25 PM

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about this, i'm totally agree xD
i fall in love with n9 shape and also its swipe ^^
i like it for having no button at the front view xD
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QUOTE(yeohsheng @ Mar 29 2012, 04:32 PM)
why would you come for n9 only for the nitdroid? if only for that, why not you go get an andriod phone?
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If he gets an N9 he can run 2 OS - MeeGo and Android. Why choose one when you can have both? A wise choice.

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 29 2012, 06:33 PM)
If he gets an N9 he can run 2 OS - MeeGo and Android. Why choose one when you can have both? A wise choice.
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"Buy 1 get 1 Free" concept? Truly Malaysian.. haha happy.gif
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Mar 29 2012, 04:26 PM)
Hello, everyone! I'm a current HTC HD2 with Android installed.
I'm impressed with NITDROID's work on N9 and N9 can be considered as a successor to aging HD2.

I intend to buy N9 once NITDROID gets stable, so just want to ask you guys. Is N9 good and solid? Any problems?

Hope to join you guys soon.
Please advise.
Thank you.
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The N9 has far less problem than Lumia 800 now even after all the os upgrades. Current Lumia problems include short battery life, unable to charge when battery runs down, phone rebooting itself at random, poor audio quality, alarm refuse to ring, etc. Rest assured that the N9 is a very stable and usable phone.
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Nokia Panaroma for MeeGo has been released.

http://my-meego.com/software/applications....Auto=1393&faq=5
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post Mar 29 2012, 07:30 PM

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kind of nice one, but need to slowly adjust in order to take a picture
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post Mar 29 2012, 09:53 PM

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if it can run both 100% like the real in deed its a wise choice to have both but at the moment its not. At the moment its not android its ntdroid
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Looks like Nokia is planning to release another 2 Meego handsets
http://www.slashgear.com/new-nokia-meego-d...llion-28220380/
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Let me correct you there battery life of lumia have been fixed on 12070 and the Nokia N9 battery life on the latest update indeed longer mine on standby already 4 days never charge still got 60% battery left.

I want to be honest about the N9

Nokia N9 have their own problems like weak wifi and 3G performance My friend N9 having issue with disappearing act like all his messages vanish , Average camera performance, Limited apps, laggy when updating feeds.

Nokia Lumia indeed have the problem u mention cant connect to adhoc wifi connection, battery died and cant turn on but overall it does seems to work better

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