i get my eyes on it since it launch -,-
but i only get it on January....
and it is just a 16gb =.=
i wan to get the 64gb, but my mom and all my relative stop me.....
i insist 64gb until the day i buy n9, but the day i buy, is just 16gb....
i kind of regret now.

well, i mean i played lumia 800 at the shop for 5 minutes, then decided to go for n9 (even when the salesman tell me not to buy it). I only know about n9 in January. After that n9 have become my dream phone. I want to buy it right away but the salesman tell me not to and wait for the lumia launch.

Haiseh, if you ask here in this thread, we all the 64gb owners surrrreeee tell you get the 64GB . Before launch, we already waiting, then launch liao, the KL ppl get, we from other states drooling. I insist on 64GB, wait2 until the stock come, i.e. 1 month aft launch

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Added on March 26, 2012, 7:57 pmYou mean you already played with the display set of N9 1st, then Lumia 800 came, you try, then you decided on N9 ??

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 26 2012, 07:57 PM

not that i dun wan to get 64gb, is just that i'm using my parent money to get it.
and they keep saying that 64gb so many for wat, no use 1 1 ....
and on the day i bought n9, i suddenly feel sorry for them coz they are the one paying.....
if i'm the one paying, of course i will buy the 64gb once it launch xD
too bad, i'm still studying...

still no1 wan to reply to my message =.=
if i reinstall the PR1.2, what will happen to my phone?
will i lose any data?
if yes, what data i will lost

This post has been edited by yeohsheng: Mar 26 2012, 08:04 PM

Ohhh, still study, then understandable. Your parents sure dont want to spend that extra few hundred. When I said insist mean the salesman at Nokia Store kept asking me get the 16GB lah , in stock liao, so, had to resist

If using flash/NSU method, your apps all have to reinstall. Music, video files also I think
Best is you back up all your files 1st, using Nokia link or Nokia PC suite.

You do soft reset i.e. "reset settings" did not solve your problem/the bug?

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 26 2012, 08:16 PM

It's poor economy actually as a 64GB phone can last you longer. If you run out of space on a 16GB N9, there is no cure except to live with it or replace it.

But as it is your parent's money you can't really complain. Try to make the best of it. The apps you install do not make use of the user storage space. Actually you will only find it limiting if you have a lot of music which you want to store on the phone at once.


You mean using NSU? You will lose all your apps for sure, I think accounts data is not deleted. I've never used NSU before, maybe others can confirm.

I think no phone is for everyone, but more about how many types/category of user it can suit.

There will be people like different kind of product.
Windows Phone does give good impression to people, that is... until they found out the restrictions and limitations. Some can live with it, some don't while some will start to feel it later when they need it or when they get tease by people, etc. Depending on individual.
Some company, they don't allow installation of software, so no Zune, then they block websites, resulting in no access to these drives. Only left with email options.

Anyway, back to how many types/category of user it can suit.
Let's just assume majority Symbian users are interested with Windows Phone, which is a good thing for both Nokia and Microsoft. Let's say they can get at least 80% of these Customer to go for Windows Phone.
BUT the limitations and restrictions may reduce that percentage.
Now since they're planning to change, they have iOS, Android and Windows Phone. Which would they choose?
This is the MOST IMPORTANT time to get these customers, because once they switch, they will start to invest and explore on the new OS. Let's say iOS or Android, they may setup everything there and it'll harder for them to change next time.
IF they invest in apps/games on those platform, then it's even harder for them to change.
So, right now, it's actually the key turning point for Nokia since they adopted Windows Phone OS.
Hope they will push Microsoft on it, and gain back more % or chances of people to choose Windows Phone.

Those that have purchase Nokia N9, the future is still unclear and if there's need to change new device, it'll also be an important factor for Nokia to gain back these users.
Right now, Nokia N9 is still one of the device that help Nokia gain sale and also maintain its Customers. Whether they can make these Customers to switch to Windows Phone (how many %), it'll depends on Nokia and Microsoft.

Windows Phone does have potential, it has superb amazing deep comprehensive Social Networking Service (SNS) integration, it feels like a Social Network centric device (e.g. Facebook phone), it's smooth and have good stable browser. The implementation of Panorama style page makes it better for using the BACK button as you're always on 1st level, just press back once regardless which part of the page you're on, compared to Android, everytime you access a page, you go in deeper 1 level, to exit, you need to BACK until the 1st level first, then the BACK only works as exit/close.

Even if the implementation takes time, announcing it would be available in next version would help. Just hope Nokia will be able to push Microsoft or Microsoft will look into this and consider it.

well, i record the conversation between me and my gf, so it use up the storage very fast @@. one more things i got think is dual boost, if dual boost sure it will used up many storage, especially i like to try apps and always forget to uninstall them lolz. you can say this is my first smartphone or touchscreen phone, i guess thats y i like to try out the apps. before this phone i still using 3310, 1200 nokia lolz. maybe some1 wan support me money to top up a 64gb? lolz just joking.
when i update to PR1.2 i face problem due to insufficient storage lolz.

i didnt try soft reset yet, never try b4 @@ since i get my phone until now never try soft or hard reset xD. but recently after update to PR1.2, i feel it lag more than PR1.1. during PR1.1 if lag, i never have to restart it manually, i still can use the power button to turn off the screen or turn on. but during PR1.2, i cant even use the power button to do on/off screen, have to off the phone manually and turn it on back. i think this is because i didnt revert back the tweak made by the n9 qt tweak b4 update to pr1.2

In terms of user interface MeeGo is the most elegant I've experienced. It is simple and intuitive, yet powerful and satisfying. Unlike Android or ios you can close an app easily or send it to the back by just a swipe. For Android and ios you may be not be sure if it is closed or still running in the background taking up RAM and CPU. You have to constantly press the task button to check. And all you see is a list of apps unlike MeeGo where you can see a snapshot of all the apps being multitasked.

I think the reason why the swipe UI is so appealing is the way it mimics real life. You double tap on the lockscreen like knocking on a door to open it. You swipe down to close an app like closing a curtain. You swipe to the right to send an app to the background like flipping away a card to another pile. You swipe the screens around like flipping the pages of a book. You can swipe a screen partially from the edge and peek at what's underneath before letting it spring back. It's like pulling the curtains partially to have a peek before letting it fall back. This sort of mimicry of the physical world is very satisfying unlike pressing buttons here and there.

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Added on March 26, 2012, 7:57 pm
You mean you already played with the display set of N9 1st, then Lumia 800 came, you try, then you decided on N9 ??

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Yup, that is what i mean. Although both I only played for a while.

Settings->Reset-> Restore settings. Restores to factory settings. You will lose your social network and email accounts

Settings->Reset->Clear device. Apps have to re-install. If you reinstal PR 1.2 using NSU way, same, Apps gone, must reinstall. Dont worry abt the paid apps, there's a number of times can reinstall free.

I updated to PR 1.1 using NSU, 1.2 was OTA. If can, try the "restore settings' 1st. Then reboot. I dunno if 1.2 can reinstall if downloaded thru OTA. If NSU, you dont need to re-download, you just connect to PC, on open the NSU & click on reinstall

today i use back my N9 again.left the 800 in the drawer collect dust.first thing i do is seriously look at the outlook/design,its reli LENG!!(although 800 got similar design but i hate the 3 buttons and lack of front cam).secondly tried double type on the screen then swipe to unlock the screen.now,a very serious question pop up in my mind again-why the Elop abandoned this os and claimed it is a dead os????even after a year from the announcement of adopting WP7,i still cant accept it.meego has great potential in the future,one of the best os(fully open source yet so simplify,easy to use).hardly to accept the fact elop abandoned this platform.aiks.

^agree...can't even brain why..harmattan is a very good os..damn good for 'test' market...

by the way, how to disable CAF on video recording?

Yes, MeeGo is unique and easily outbeat Android and iOS, it has the potential. What it's lacking is basically just on the applications and games (and the fact that it's ANNOUNCED being abandon before it's launch; weird right? Sounds fishy). Since it's Nokia own OS, they can easily enhance and add more things. Symbian user transition will be easier and it's an UPGRADE. Plus, from the response since last time, MeeGo has been positive, but Windows Phone has been negative since before it's launch. It may have gain other NEW comers who are into Windows Phone, but it's at the risk of loosing the old. If MeeGo 1st version is already so great, imagine the next version as they put in more flexibility, customization and so on.
But from my experience, management decision is no longer looking at low levels or entire picture, with many levels, they see statistics, market study, "marketing" and "presentation", "figures", not so much on the details anymore. That's why things changed and it's harder to meet customer's demand and needs. The people to do the market study, presents, etc must be well informed and knows every details, if not, most of the time, the result/outcome will be different.

I do agree very much on the multi-task view, it's the same like N900. N900 has not button in front screen, it's just like N9. Since it doesn't utilize swipe gesture, it always have a button on the top left on the screen (not hardware button). For those app/games that hides the button, you can use ctrl+backspace. The swipe gesture will be more simple and easy for most people, but for me, both has it's pros and cons; Sometimes swipe can be a disturbance when you didn't actually want to swipe, other than that, it's a very nice feature. When using Lumia 800, I keep double-tapping trying to unlock (natural behavior), and at time's try to swipe an application away; pressing and holding the back button is not so convenient, sometimes I pressed the windows button instead;
But the Metro Panorama UI for Windows Phone is a nice feature, putting everything in 1 level and we will be flicking/swiping left and right as well.

Anyway, I don't think Nokia will be going back to MeeGo; even if they want to later, I'm not sure if they can get back the team or gain back their trust, etc. Plus, it's not the first time already.

For Windows Phone, if to compare against Android and iOS. I do prefer Windows Phone, although it lacks flash; but overall, it's actually CAN BE better compared with the other 2, if only they remove the restrictions and limitations, reach out to more customers. Features and Functions can be added in later versions, but the restrictions and limitations is depending whether they want to open up or become like Apple.
Potential is there.

The one biggest suspicion is, because he's from Microsoft.

There're many weird reason:
1. Why need to drop other OS (somemore is homemade), why they can't be multi-platform?
2. MeeGo is drop because by end of 2011, only have 1 MeeGo device. But then, Windows Phone got difference? Only got 2 device only in 2011. They can have 2 MeeGo also device if they want. His reasons doesn't sound valid or make sense to me.
3. If need to adapt new OS, shouldn't they listen to Customers demand? What is most Customers been asking for?
Android. Android. Android. If Nokia have Android OS phone, they could potential grab quite a big part of the market? Many Symbian users switch to Android, imagine if Nokia have Android device, these people may still be using Nokia.
3.1 Those that switch to Android and have invest, etc. It's hard for them to change again. But IF Nokia have Android, they can easily switch back to Nokia, and Nokia can gain back their market of users.
4. If they (I mean Elop) want Windows Phone badly, They can still have Windows Phone, but why not go multi-platform as mentioned above. Even Samseng, HTC, etc also have Windows Phone, but comparing with Android, the sales is so much difference. But if you have both, you can decide which to produce more and remain in the business.
5. Why announce Symbian death and MeeGo death even before their Windows Phone is ready, and when they don't even know if their Windows Phone can sell, how the public will take it, how well it will do?
A simple theory is open 2 tap water, see which flows more; but his strategy seems, closing current tap water, while the new one still not ready and not sure if it can flow or not. Very confident.
Perhaps because Samseng, HTC, etc. they adapt the 2 tap water, seems Android tap water is flowing a lot, and Windows Phone is not really flowing, end up they produce and concentrate on Android.
Learning from this, they have to make sure the next one who take up Windows Phone, must put Windows Phone in priority. So... Nokia?

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 27 2012, 09:31 AM

Hi guys,,,
question again...

how to sync N9 with external time server?

We will see whether Elop made the right decision or not in Nokia's next quarter financial results. For 2011, Nokia made a loss of US$1.4 billion, 90% of it in Q4 when Lumia was launched. If Q1 2012 Nokia lose heavily again how to sustain? But it is very hard for Nokia to u-turn back to MeeGo or revive Symbian because development work has stopped and human resources dismantled. They can't even switch to Android they have done nothing in that line. Elop has put all the eggs in one basket. It's either Lumia succeeds or a hole in the ground.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Mar 27 2012, 11:05 AM

Oh ya, now that you mention it that way it's true also that it's going to be messy for Group/Discussion to be integrated into People Hub. Yeah just use FB app for that then which works great already.

The N8 actually 210 ppi pixel density, not really that low. Actually I also noticed that N8 specs mentioned 16M colour. Same with N9 too. Reviews seem to state Lumia 800 shares same screen with N9 & is using 16-bit AMOLED screen but can't find any mention of it on N9 reviews. Make me scratch head also. Search online for "AMOLED banding" & you'll find huge discussions. From the discussions I think it's safe to say AMOLED handles 16-bit colour stuff horribly, unless proper dithering is applied. There's also mention in discussions that most AMOLED screens are 16-bit colour but have dithering system to achieve 24-bit colour. So I think that's how they all got advertised as capable of 16 million colours.

I've been looking at my stuff on my N8 & only noticed banding on videos, specifically videos that I've downloaded. Videos that I've recorded with the phone don't seem to show this banding much even if its pitch black. So it's very likely compression artifacts are causing these banding to appear in downloaded videos.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 27 2012, 04:40 PM

For those who havent tried, N9's wallpapers can be transferred to PC and rhen to other devices. Maybe cos those I have are free ones.

Copying wallpapers from other devices(via bluetooth or PC), the paid ones, some can, some cannot. I reckon due to copyright.

any1 know where is the sms message is kept in n9?
i wan to backup them in my computer and delete them. because some contact message is too much, and it took some times to load them all and making the phone a bit lagging.

Why need to pay for wallpaper? There is an inexhaustible source available for free online. Try this link: http://nokian9wallpapers.com/

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Mar 27 2012, 09:31 PM