Different people have different use of their phone. My N8 always have about 10G free and I have about 1000 photos in it. So I see no pointing getting the 64G N9. May be I am wrong but I think only those who like to store huge amount of CD of video or movies need that much storage.

haha, icic
ps lah, i never use smartphone b4 xD
but i still wan to get that 64gb just in case
i like to put things inside the phone haha.
got big capacity sure is better than small capacity right?

then if now u wan to try the ICS, then u need more space also mah, wasnt it xD. then if wan to put a lot of games like the emulator 1, sure use a lot of space 1 1.

=.=" those isnt really HD games to able to reach 64GB. if iOS on iphone and ipad hitting 64GB is pretty easy especially games range from 500MB to 1GB

aiyo, wat i means is, 16gb easy to finish use, but 64 is a bit of too many. but we got no choice =.=

Lol, it's ok.
I got the 64Gb for precisely that, to store videos. My 16GB SD card on my E6 gets filled up pretty fast, so I was sure the 10 GB storage space in 16GB N9(after minus space for programs, apps) would not be enough. Anyway, since you are still student, when you're working that time, buy a device that can store more than 16GB (hint: 808 Pure view)

lolz, tat time probably is i make my own phone @@
actually i'm a electronic engineering student. now studying advance diploma. did think to help in the meego programming. but too bad, always no time to do it. too lazy =.=
probably during sem break will do somethings

It's not for HD games or apps, whether 16GB or 64GB the space allocated for apps is 4.2GB and this is partitioned separately from the user storage space. 16GB N9 with user storage of 10GB is definitely not enough for me as my music collection already 12GB.

Videos, photos you can recycle on and off your phone but normally you want all your music on your phone to access your whole collection at any time. When I select an album I don't want to restrict myself to part of it. I want to select any album I want depending on my mood.

Tried to install NITDroid yesterday and looking good . Luckily there is a fix for the Google Play access problem. Hence, now I can access it already . Tested Angry Bird Space, Draw Something and Whatsapp, and working fine.

Main disadvantages:
- No battery charging indicator and battery status (>_<)
- Cannot use WiFi
- Battery drain very fast
- Deep deep Sleep Mode (your phone will be dead if you enter sleep mode for too long).
- Using Android make it lagg a bit (I wish these apps can be used inside MeeGo instead)
- MeeGo becomes "pelupa" on all accounts including FB, Skype, Google, etc. (>_<)
- Camera and GPS cannot be used yet
- Warranty void

My recommendation, don't install NITDroid Alpha version yet. Better wait for Beta since lots of bugs need to be fixed manually right now using adb shell.

This post has been edited by drexar: Mar 28 2012, 07:17 AM

Everything looks awesome except that deep deep sleep

the sleep mode means here is the standby? screen off?
sry, never use android or other os lolz

Was on 17 days rock-stable streak on my N9 ...then yesterday incoming sms from mb2u made it...freeze, need to reboot it

After further testing, my previous findings were incorrect.
It will still put away the browser from multi-tasking window, but it's not killed, but just you can't see it in multi-tasking window, when you open up to 5 other apps. Previously I think I access the web browser (any tab) will do, it will bring the application to the latest accessed.

Previously, what I was told and know is, the multi-tasking will close the FIRST app you open, as in FIRST IN FIRST OUT concept. BUT I find out this was not the case, IF you access the FIRST app after you open 4 app, the FIRST app will be bring to then back. So, it should be the last access app will be put away first.
Another thing I notice, although the 6 tabs doesn't SEEM to contribute to how the maximum 5 apps you can open, actually it does. You can have 5 apps open including the browser and the browser having 6 tabs. But when you access another tab, it will put away the last accessed app to make room for the tab you're viewing.
Kinda confusing at first, but basically, the tabs are also not loaded until you access and in running in the multi-tasking window.

One more thing, I tried with Word and Excel mobile, edited the default doc, then try running more than 5 apps, the Word and Excel got put away. I re-open again the word and excel app, I notice the edited document is still there, it wasn't terminated. So, in a way, I think you can say it actually can save the state of more than 5 app, just that it only allows 5 app to be shown in the multi-tasking window, and possible these 5 apps with allowed background process? No real idea. Also not sure how long will it keep the state after being put away from multi-tasking Windows, as I read from MS site, if there's not enough memory, the app will be tombstoned, supposedly it means completely wipe away or does it still keep the state? Not sure, cause even after few days, and running many different test the IE tabs still there.
Anyway, if you restart the phone, then all these states will be gone, but IE tabs still preserve (e.g. those tabs that were left open), but the word and excel document edited half way will be gone. So, not really sure how long can Office documents state be keep after being put away from multi-tasking view.
UPDATE: After restart, it only preserve the tabs and thumbails, but if you access them, it will try to refresh. So, it doesn't preserve the page, unlike if you didn't restart, even if you've used many application and the IE has been put away, when you access IE, the page seems still available, but not sure for how long, maybe more memory intensive apps/games needed for testing.

Did you try indoor especialyl low light? Especially when the brightness go up. It's not just the downloaded video files, I first notice it from TRON trailer which were included, I notice the same on photos, you can see large pixels banding very obvious, and not just on blacks. When watching movies, those scenes with clouds or night scene, oh gosh, it's horrible. Example: "Salt" movie, the dark scene, it's totally horrible.
Even video recorded have this issue as most of the time, I record videos indoors in low light, poor/weak flourescent lighting, it's bad. Even during recording, you see the screen, it's bad, and I don't even have to hold it near to look. To me, it looks really bad.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 28 2012, 11:27 AM

You really music lover. Part of the reason why I store so many videos are the youtube music videos and sports matches. Stimes 10GB isnt enough for even 1 tournament,esp major ones like Thomas Cup and Olympics. Add to that multi sports.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Mar 28 2012, 02:30 PM

Wow what testing you went through. Anyway, a very good read on this whole thing is here - Execution Model Overview for Windows Phone. It's very technical but to sum it up:

1) It doesn't really follow FIRST IN, FIRST OUT. Instead it closes whichever app that is least recently used.
2) An app has a state dictionary to save stuff, this state dictionary is stored in memory only. There's a separate persistent application state that can be written to storage when needed. This should be how IE stores it's tab info.
3) Once an app is not in focus, it's dormant & it's state is saved. However the app is still in memory & can be recalled & state restored when needed.
4) When OS starts run out of memory, any dormant app that is least recently used will be closed but it's state preserved in memory. This is what they call tombstoned. According to the page I linked, "The device will maintain tombstoning information for up to five applications at a time".

So I guess it all depends on how an app saves it's state when it enters tombstoned state. If it just saves state dictionary then if you're lucky you can resume the app if the state info still in memory. Else hope that the app did save persistent application state so that at least can resume something. Else start from scratch.

Yes I did try indoor low light. I even tried night time outdoors. I still don't see that obvious banding in videos I've taken, at least not like the ugly banding I see in trailers I downloaded. Maybe I'm not so sensitive to it.

This post has been edited by zachary22_77: Mar 28 2012, 03:37 PM

I got a problem with my n9 housing tat i think non of u guys encounter. The black color peel off a bit bit slowly in some area. Din purposely scratch it or damange it. It just came off by itself. Bring to nokia care centre, show them my problem. Straight away tell me cannot claim. Have to pay to change the f**kin housing. Then call nokiaa helpline to complain. They blame me n our weather for causing the problem. Blaming the original silicon cover cause problem. Anything but nokia. Very disappointed with both care centre n helpline. The guy in care centre try to avoid my question, very unproffesional. Guy in helpline always repeat the f**king same answer everytime i ask n tell something. I have been a loyal to nokia, very very disappointing.
1 more thing, after i updated the pr1.2 n sync my songs with my pc. There is songs tat still show in the Music player, but cannot b found when try to play the songs. How to delete from there?

It's for the review, which I kept modifying lol, but not the usual review. I'm not really suitable to write review or stuffs like that, but since it's required, I just write my own, about my findings, my opinion, rants, complaints and stuffs.

I've read that, but didn't go through in detail. Today, I read another blog which talks about how the developer can write its state permanent storage.
So, in theory, it's actually can support more than 5 apps as those apps not in the "mutli-tasking view" still have it's state preserve, just that it's not in the "multi-tasking view" (something like a limit of "recently app used list").
But I think the difference is, those app in multi-tasking view will have priority over being tombstoned and can have background service running? If the app is being remove from multi-tasking view, possibly the background service will no longer be allowed to run. Need to test it out first. The behavior is dependent on how the developer implement it.
But IE has something unique, it still continue to load in the background, so assuming it's process is running, if I leave it in multi-tasking view and didn't close it, it doesn't seems to consume battery or resources, unlike N9, which have true multi-tasking, the browser will actually consume resources. I assume Windows Phone, the IE will be in dormant state after finish loading.


Probably the brightness settings? Or the light sensor? When I send to Nokia Service Centre last time, we compare with another customer's N8, it's obvious mine were worst. But ding dong ding dong, there's nothing wrong with the device, which later I learn about the banding thing through more research.
Anyway, luckily it was not my primary device, so it doesn't really affect me, but that time I just want to know what's wrong and is it my device have problem; If it's the display, maybe Nokia can take note of it for their future device, if it's software related, maybe they can look into it. Only know it's banding issue, but didn't know was caused by display or software until your explanation, lol.

So, I think Nokia should take notice on this issue about the display.

Need some guru to answer a few questions.
1. Is there a way to know which apps have been using all those data?
2. Is there a simple switch to offline all widget that goes online? But leaving the email retrieval and skype intact?
Thanks

1. Use Datawatch but it has to be running in the background.
2. None that I know of.

I tried to install Nitdroid but too lazy to wait it loading .
Really hate to hack it because of the disadvantage .
I'm gonna wait a little more <.<

i also waiting for the beta xD, more stable and less risk, hopefully.