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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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post Jan 19 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Jan 19 2012, 09:20 AM)
Put aside all the fuss, what is the actual price of the car?
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thats the problem.

i think it still points back to the mudah advertisement.

will u leak a good news(for your benefit) ? or will you leak a bad news?(for your benefit)
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 19 2012, 09:43 AM)
thats the problem.

i think it still points back to the mudah advertisement.

will u leak a good news(for your benefit) ? or will you leak a bad news?(for your benefit)
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Good or bad, it's really not important anymore... coz diff ppl seems to have diff view what it shud be priced at... but right now i think most of us just need to know...

a lot of us are waiting, to make the decision to continue to pursue this car.... it's just unfair to make all of us wait... delay after delay.... Sept 11 to Q4 11 to Dec 11 to Feb 12.......

This post has been edited by tunasandwich: Jan 19 2012, 11:35 AM
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 19 2012, 11:34 AM)
Good or bad, i dun really care much... but i just need to know...

a lot of us are waiting, to make the decision to continue to pursue this car.... it's just unfair to make all of us wait... delay after delay.... Sept 11 to Q4 11 to Dec 11 to Feb 12.......
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might be a tactic to make you hold your purchase. or, its just a simple delay biggrin.gif
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 19 2012, 11:36 AM)
might be a tactic to make you hold your purchase. or, its just a simple delay biggrin.gif
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yea thatz the whole unfair marketing gimmick that's pissing me off.... let me know earlier so i can go for something...

just want to say, becareful when u "fish" ur consumer.... it might fire back at u....
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post Jan 19 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 19 2012, 11:42 AM)
yea thatz the whole unfair marketing gimmick that's pissing me off.... let me know earlier so i can go for something...

just want to say, becareful when u "fish" ur consumer.... it might fire back at u....
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seriously the existence of this thread brings no extra info, even the pricing is from mudah(ironically is from me).

and of cos this thread bring endless of emotional argument la.
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post Jan 19 2012, 01:10 PM

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darn. my plate number is going to expired 1st week Feb. why so many delay....
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post Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM

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Think twice before take Hyundai Car.
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia

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post Jan 19 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
But our Bro Fludic says that Hyundai is premium brand? hmm.gif
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:03 PM)
But our Bro Fludic says that Hyundai is premium brand? hmm.gif
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to ordinary ppl, premium brand = lexus,infinity,acura, bmw, mercs, porsche, and above and beyond.

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post Jan 19 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
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Point 1. Most modern cars have this fuel tank cap. It's to gain access to the petrol filter inside the tank, which needs to be changed periodically. No big deal. Maybe because the Tucson's back seats can be moved about easily unlike sedan cars that's why many people encountered this so-called shocker. No big deal.

Point 2 is really a safety feature, a mechanical unlocking system that allows the occupants from within to open the doors even if it is locked from the outside. The first time I encountered this so-called futuristic feature was many years ago on a Citroen ZX. I also tried it on a Pug 308T, works the same way.

On my Forte, it's the same thing but only two front doors. However, when the car is moving, I tried to pull the lever, it won't budge/unlock, only when the car is stopped will this feature work.


In other words, there's nothing wrong with the Tucson or any other Hyundai having the above two features which have long been in place in so many cars, including Jap cars (except maybe Point 2 which is more for Conti makes).
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
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Aiyo.. Current Mitsubishi car also had that features. No one complain.

If dont want that kind of unlock. Mitsu SC can reprogrammed wt their laptop. Easy as click enable or not only.
Not big problem.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 19 2012, 02:36 PM
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:34 PM

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If this car's pricing is not right, this is alternative by proton
http://paultan.org/2012/01/19/proton-p3-21...ong-the-guthrie
rclxms.gif I heard this car has 7 speeds gear

QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
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If people don't like something, there will try to find somewhere to pointing
No big deal. I like the no. 2 thing on my forte



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post Jan 19 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kekura @ Jan 19 2012, 01:10 PM)
darn. my plate number is going to expired 1st week Feb. why so many delay....
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You can ask jpj to extend the expired date....just write a letter to give a reason...i have done it before..
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(jai2005 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:34 PM)
If this car's pricing is not right, this is alternative by proton
http://paultan.org/2012/01/19/proton-p3-21...ong-the-guthrie
rclxms.gif I heard this car has 7 speeds gear
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CVT with 7 virtual gear ratio... CVT gearbox is cheaper to made compared to the more sophisticated 6AT... That's why Proton and some japanese car maker are choosing CVT because of lower cost...
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QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
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You also have to think twice why hyundai have all these features...which is most of modern cars today also got these features.... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:03 PM)
But our Bro Fludic says that Hyundai is premium brand? hmm.gif
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When did he say so? ohmy.gif


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 19 2012, 01:57 PM)
Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia
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Maybe it's time for you to update or upgrade rclxms.gif


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:49 pm
QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 19 2012, 08:40 AM)
"Hyundai overall is more premium than KIA".

It is true a fact but not entirely true.
It just from perspective of global consumer including in south korea from the beginning of korean car industry.

Hyundai and Kia are technically separate companies, with Hyundai owning less than 50% of its junior partner. But as the two major divisions of the Hyundai-Kia Motor Group, the two firms share resources and align their strategies through carefully-maintained relationships in the classic Korean chaebol (conglomerate) fashion.

Hyundai and Kia enjoy a dominant position in Korea, earning 45.2% and 33.2% of the overall Korean market in 2010 (including commercial vehicles).

Technically, it just like Proton and Perodua in Malaysia. Proton initially said to be premium than Perodua. However, time to time Perodua catch up wt Proton in term of pricing & quality. Lastly there almost no different between their car (pricing & quality).

The past few years, it was said that Hyundai built better car as they own better technology, factory and staff.
However, the gap is closer and closer as they share all their resource.
As the result, current car pricing and quality is same.
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But it is a fact that Hyundai is more premium than Kia in term of their marketing position. Remember Genesis and Equus?
Yes they are very closely related in many ways, but there is something called branding. The same reason between VW, Skoda and Seat. Three of them are sharing a lot of similarities yet VW is more expensive than Skoda and Seat. But cheaper Skoda and Seat don't mean that they are inferior or lousy compared to VW, just a matter of branding and positioning.

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post Jan 19 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Jan 19 2012, 02:42 PM)
CVT with 7 virtual gear ratio... CVT gearbox is cheaper to made compared to the more sophisticated 6AT... That's why Proton and some japanese car maker are choosing CVT because of lower cost...
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Is this correct? Corolla US spec has 5 speeds compare to Altis 7 speeds
the result is why US spec get only 35mpg meanwhile here got 5.5L on fuel consumption ?
May someone answer me... As I know the engine is same
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Jan 19 2012, 02:42 PM)
CVT with 7 virtual gear ratio... CVT gearbox is cheaper to made compared to the more sophisticated 6AT... That's why Proton and some japanese car maker are choosing CVT because of lower cost...
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yes, so that they can give you good car at low price.
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QUOTE(kekura @ Jan 19 2012, 01:10 PM)
darn. my plate number is going to expired 1st week Feb. why so many delay....
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1st week sure tak sempat already... better go write letter to them already bro
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Jan 19 2012, 02:43 PM)
When did he say so? ohmy.gif


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:44 pm
Maybe it's time for you to update or upgrade rclxms.gif


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:49 pm
But it is a fact that Hyundai is more premium than Kia in term of their marketing position. Remember Genesis and Equus?
Yes they are very closely related in many ways, but there is something called branding. The same reason between VW, Skoda and Seat. Three of them are sharing a lot of similarities yet VW is more expensive than Skoda and Seat. But cheaper Skoda and Seat don't mean that they are inferior or lousy compared to VW, just a matter of branding and positioning.
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Current KIA & Hyundai strategy marketing position is same.
Elantra & Forte
Sonata & K5 optima
Genesis/Equus & K9

VW vs Skoda & Seat of course different brand positioning.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 19 2012, 02:59 PM

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