Chongkor,
Maybe they think not all customer need 1.8ltr engine.
Same wt T & H strategy, they usually choose not to sell any variant for their highest CC/ engine car. For example altis & civic got only 1 version of 2.0cc.
Same also wt accord or camry 2.4cc, 1 version. When altis got 1.6 & 1.8 only, they also sell only one variant of 1.8cc.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 3 2012, 11:05 AM

If we didnt do any conversion. It still not cheap to own a car in USA, Australia, Japan or Singapore.
Unlike Malaysia; most of the time cost of the car, itself is cheap.
However their govt impose regulation that make cost of ownership is high.
For example COE, high insurance, compulsory car park fee, compulsory inspection yearly (twice yearly in Japan), high interest, GST etc.
Somemore, in USA; the cost of gasoline is high & they use lower RON than us here in Malaysia. RON95 & 97 consider premium there.
Not to mention money to money (wtout conversion), cost of toll & parking still high in those country.
Since new car price is low; customer tend to buy brand new car, resale value of 2nd hand car also very very low. Sometimes, almost no value.

Actually they are many thing to say when U had live or study/work in those country.
Bak pepatah.
Hujan Batu di Negeri Sendiri, Hujan Emas di Negeri Orang.
Namun lebih baik di Negeri Sendiri.

There are a lot hidden cost of ownership in those countries.
that's why cheap car & low maintenance car from japanese & korean more are appeling to customer.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 5 2012, 02:33 PM

Autobahn accident fatality rate can consider bad when compare to their neighbor highway in Netherlands, France, Switzerland, etc...

Maybe bcoz german mentality who want drive fast. That's why they can produce a lot driving champion & world class driver. hehe..

I am not telling U about toll specifically where U stay in USA. It only in general coz there are slightly more than half of 50 states in USA impose toll but not all.
Same in Malaysia, not all roads u have to pay tolls.

However generally, for the same car & for the same mileage, u need to pay higher insurance, higher toll rate per km, higher petrol price rite..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 5 2012, 03:09 PM

U cannot compare by saying that Germany has 6X more vehicles than any other country so that fatality rate is higher.
That's why they count it in road user fatalities per billion vehicle kilometers.
Vehicle per capita in Switzerland, France, Spain, Norway, Iceland etc is higher than Germany. Which mean there are more vehicle per person in those countries. Vehicle density on the road is higher.
however, fatality rate is lower.
When compare fatality rate wt their neighbor, it still bad rite.

If compare wt us, of course we are more worst. hehe..
But of course due to a lot of reason.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 5 2012, 03:36 PM

When U dont like what others say in this forum, U just undervalue their opinion & say they won paralympic.
But true truth is U are not really understand about ur post especially about COE and Singapore policy.
COE is not fixed as it's an open tender and more variable compare to Malaysian tax.
Generally their car price higher than Malaysia except for luxury car bcoz any car above 1.6cc can apply for COE category B or open.
Mean that Elantra 1.8cc or Forte 2.0cc will get same COE like Merz S500L or a Ferrari. However still most Singaporean buy normal like us such as Civic, Altis, Vios, Accord etc rather than buy luxury car.
That's why also Hyundai Singapore decided not to bring 1.8cc Elantra coz it will sell around SD 130K-150K which will be too high based on current COE.

COE also less than SD 10K few yrs ago (b4 2008).
Do U think my family can sell our 2nd hand car much higher than we buy as our car appreciate as U said?
No my friend. Car still depreciate no matter what.

PS: Most of my family live in Johore and singapore for generations.
I dont think Singapore's car policy much better than Msia. It still pricey.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 6 2012, 02:35 PM

Prius C is a small car. Smaller than H. Insight in term of dimension.

That's true...

However to me it still pricey for such small car.
Why la they didnt sell it cheaper? No tax rite.
Guess wanna get more profits.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 11 2012, 03:11 PM

If next Civic hybrid price is same or slightly higher than previous civic which around $110K, I think in term of practicality better buy civic hybrid rather than prius C coz roomier space for passenger and more convenience to put luggage although Prius C more efficient hybrid.
That assumption if wanna buy hybrid car la...

If for normal car, Elantra still one of the best choice.

Dont worry guyz, if elantra price is not good. There will be a lot replacement choice of new car that will come into Msia market soon such as:

Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Audi A4 – facelift model
Audi Q3
Audi A5 – facelift model
BMW 6-Series Gran Coupe
Chevrolet Sonic
Chrveolet Colorado
Chevrolet Malibu
Citroen DS4
Ford Focus
Ford Ranger
Honda Civic
Honda CR-V
Honda Insight 1.5L
Hyundai Accent/Verna
Hyundai Veloster
Isuzu D-Max
Kia Rio
Kia Soul
Lexus GS
Mazda BT-50
Mercedes-Benz B-Class
Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class
Mercedes-Benz M-Class
Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
Nissan Almera
Peugeot 408
Proton Savvy
Proton P3-21A
Subaru XV
Subaru BR-Z
Suzuki Swift
Suzuki Kizashi
Toyota Avanza
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius (St and luxury)
Toyota Prius C
Volkswagen Vento – new CKD model
Volkswagen Jetta – new CKD model
Volkswagen Passat – new CKD model
Volkswagen Amarok
Volkswagen New Beetle
Volvo V60

Sime Darby-Hyundai Msia will get tough time if price their new Elantra too much for Msian.
Most of competitors will introduce their new car in 1st half of this year.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 13 2012, 04:43 PM

Not many but still enough to steal the market.

For example, Still Honda Civic & Ford Focus are market leader for C-segment car in US or Europe although Elantra win a lot award.

In asia, we will see soon as both car will launch officially later.

PS: Most important is the quality, not the quantity rite.
From review, it can be said that Civic & Focus have better built quality & handling quality than Elantra.
Elantra win award coz of price, gadgets & design.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 13 2012, 04:59 PM

Hopefully when Inokom produce Elantra; Hyundai didnt do what Mitsubishi did to Proton Inspira. Mitsubishi detuned their engine & transmission so that Proton Inspira will get lower HP & lower top speed than their own Mitsubishi Lancer. On paper, maybe only around 5HP lesser; but in real world Proton Inspira hardly can touch 200kmh while Lancer can touch 230-240kmh.
So that they can always claim their original product better.

Few my friends get it. Not a jokes. It's proven (stock Msian Lancer GT get it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRk5iflCGc&feature=youtu.be

PS: I am LancerGT club committee.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 14 2012, 10:07 PM

RPM? I not aware about it. I am not speed demon like them.
At 1st I also think my friends make a joke.
But when few my friends post few videos in youtube or HP as a prove.
Then I realise it is true that Lancer can give top speed 220-240kmh but it depend how U drive ur car everyday as this car ECU programme it based on ur driving style.

Just for yr info, when Mitsubishi plan to sell their product to Proton few yrs ago; of course most of Lancer owners make protest & wrote memorandum, email & letter to them. What U think Mitsubishi respond? Confidently, Mitsubishi say their products are better product, meet world standard, strict quality assurance, got global standard, high class worker and bla.. bla... So customer should be confident wt their product, give continue support and bla.. bla... After all, they still sell their product as CBU from Japan although they know Proton will make cheaper car.
At 1st, Mitsubishi answer confuse us & make some customer angrier. Now we know what Mitsubishi mean. But some customer still angry wt Mitsubishi till today...

Hopefully there is no different Inokom Elantra wt global Hyundai Elantra..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 14 2012, 10:57 PM

I think $118K is too pricey for local made car wt Inokom brand.
When compare between civic & elantra for that price, I think 99% Malaysian will choose H. Civic.

Mean that "Hello Impossible" tagline is true to many malaysian. hehe..
HSDM made it impossible to own one..

Somebody who can afford like me also will think thousand times to buy an Elantra. hehe.. Or end up will not buy it.
Why? Main reason, 1st 1.8 price close to 120K which same wt Japanese or conti.
2nd Its using Inokom badge not Hyundai. Why not using "Hyundai" brand? Inokom cheaper price (no)?
3rd It's not CBU like Mazda, Mitsubishi or Volkwagen which still can sell CBU wt same price. Why Msian made still sell that high?
4th Msian perception for Japanese car better than Korean. In this case why dont buy all new civic.
5th Better service & easy to find part for Japanese.

Pricing strategy is so wrong for local made car. I can only accept that price for CBU Hyundai.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 16 2012, 03:54 PM

In Korea, Forte price 14,890,000 won to 18,020,000 won
Avante 13,400,000 won to 18,900,00 won

No different actually.