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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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jai2005
post Jan 3 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Essilor @ Jan 3 2012, 11:10 AM)
I will buy if below 100k.. which i think.impossible..
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jai2005
post Jan 3 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Jan 3 2012, 02:25 PM)
still hoping for the best in terms of pricing...  unsure.gif
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If 1.8 price is more than 100k
I'll cancel the car's booking and fill up money refundable form sweat.gif
jai2005
post Jan 3 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jan 3 2012, 02:56 PM)
Where did you place your booking?
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HQ Glenmarie. Booking is refundable.
Just to make sure I am one of the first who drove 1.8 elantra, but if the pricing is right for me icon_question.gif
If not I still happy with my Forte

QUOTE(LLH @ Jan 3 2012, 04:05 PM)
Judging from the feedback so far, you may have to start filling up the form already  smile.gif
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do not misunderstand me. Now I'm trying to psycho hyundai malaysia. Haha
Try to send message to them to reduce a profit margin but then will earn more sale smile.gif
jai2005
post Jan 3 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(LLH @ Jan 3 2012, 05:16 PM)
Or 2.0 Forte? jal2005 are you having problems with yr forte? It´s a 1.6 or 2.0?
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Mine is 1.6sx. I'm satisfied owner of the car. Drive still feel like new even near to 50k odo and 2 years.
But plan to change to Elanta 1.8 because I like the NU engine thumbup.gif
jai2005
post Jan 4 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jan 3 2012, 05:32 PM)
Bro, you must  be earning good money. Just 2 years change car aleady. brows.gif
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That's why I only can afford if the price is below 100k sweat.gif

QUOTE(Chongkor @ Jan 3 2012, 05:41 PM)
Dont opp for 1.6, it's a bit underpower, 2.0 used the engine same as Inspira and Lancer.
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Believe me, you only can notice the underpower when car's speed from 160km to top speed. no pick-up yet.
2nd when you drive to genting with full board. If just 2 adults inside, you can maintain gear at D.
And think about if the gamma 1.6 engine is not power enough to carry Forte body, why kimchi place 17' wheel?
But I agree 2.0 is most suitable engine for Forte and 1.6 is still enough.
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post Jan 4 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Jan 4 2012, 11:33 AM)
Have u asked SA how much you can trade in your 2 years car?
If you borrowed maximum amount last time, then you still need to pay bank the difference right. Plus the 10% for the new car,that is a lot shakehead.gif
Keep the Forte lah since you are still happy with it.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 4 2012, 01:16 PM)
Changing cars every 2 years? Why bother wasting money like this? Its either ure really very rich or just not financially prudent. Focus on property. Cars are always a losing commodity.
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you're right my friends
But I couldn't stand if elantra 1.8 is around 100k mad.gif
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post Jan 4 2012, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(unitedforever17 @ Jan 4 2012, 02:34 PM)
so u wanna sell off your current ride?have u checked the value of forte now?2nd hand value of korean sucks bro
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sorry my friend to say that's a mindset of malaysian
now our worlds is changing, korean car has improve a lot. even elantra was the 2nd world's top selling car 2011
you can check at mudah.my or other site to get the 2nd hand value of forte, but not many myb there's a good car
actually I have 2 interested buyer willing buy my car around 66k. I need to pay 61k++ to settlement the car at bank
so I can say its not sucks anymore
jai2005
post Jan 4 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(unitedforever17 @ Jan 4 2012, 02:54 PM)
already checked bro, my boss wanna sell his forte bought last year 80k..now when he wanna sell,can get 60k only..
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ask your boss to advertise the car on net. There's a lot people out there looking for the car...
even at end of the last year if I wanna to trade-in my car with sonata, they willing to pay 65k
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post Jan 5 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 5 2012, 01:51 AM)
I sold my last two cars and another two for my family through mudah. Direct buyers all of them. The paperwork is actually nothing much la, if you wan I have a friend who can do all the running and paperwork for less than RM500, including helping your buyer to process the bank loan. Honda Accord 2.4 iVTEC, Civic FD and two Kelisas. All so-called "hot models", still I ended between 3-7k richer. Worth it loh if you know how to play the game. Otherwise end up losing a lot of money to used car dealers. Cannot blame them la, cari makan mah.

Nowadays, used car dealers are not very interested in taking cars because they have so many unsold stocks, many prefer to do trade in with their existing stocks.


Added on January 5, 2012, 1:59 am

Let's see. Bought new at 81,800 I presume, the older 1.6 SX 4-speeder. Deduct the insurance and road tax, nett buying price around RM79k. Dunno got any discounts or not.

Anyway, the used car dealer takes it for 60k. He sells it for 66k. Buyer pays 66k plus ins+runner fees+processing fees etc, end up paying 68k++.

You don't really know the system. New cars always put in the insurance etc so buyers can get a higher loan. Used cars always take away the ins etc so the selling price seems low.

If your boss can sell direct, he only lost 13k which is just slightly higher than the "hot" cars which lose around 10k after the first year.

1 yr old cars lose the most because of the cost of borrowing. New cars have lower interest while used cars are usually 1-2% higher than new car interest. So in order to make a 1 yr old car attractive to a prospect, the difference in repayment between a new car and a 1 yr old car must be more than RM100 per month, otherwise who dafak will buy a used car? Unnerstan now?


Added on January 5, 2012, 2:02 am

Normally you can't take a straight line depreciation method cos the first year the car will lose more, then tapers off from 2nd yr onwards.

Ya, the Civic FD/FD2 and Myvi are the country's two best performing residual value cars ever! Only in Msia, mind you.
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Gd explanation bro. javascript:emoticon(':thumbs:')
I experienced that to sold my car before at mudah. The work is not that difficult.
But you must have free time lah to go to bank, puspakom, JPJ and etc. But worth it...
jai2005
post Jan 5 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Jan 4 2012, 10:08 PM)
Wont la, the spec for 1.6 and 1.8 so much different. It must not more than 95k for high spec,
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I think is possible to price elantra 1.6 around 80k and 1.8 around 100k
because they change what logo from hyundai to inokom
from there how much they can save a tax
play psycho again cool2.gif I hope SD will read this to consider. Haha...
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post Jan 5 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 5 2012, 11:47 AM)
it's not why Korean cars resale value is bad, but why the Civic's resale value is so good? a depreciation of 16K over 2 years for a 131K car...

why would ppl even allow this?
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that's a beauty of malaysia
if other country the car is no value at all
still people think cars here is expensive
p/s: just my opinion. No need to debate ya biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(dantck @ Jan 5 2012, 12:05 PM)
y the price is up?
because hyundai saw the demand on this page,

I rather get a japanese still for the price....
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totally agreed with ur bro, or else get Forte.
I also think same thing during place the elantra's booking. dont want to show a demand. But at the end book jugak lah rclxms.gif

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 5 2012, 12:11 PM)
Do u know anything bout taxation on motor vehicles in Malaysia? People dont THINK cars here are expensive. They ARE expensive. Resale value is more important here because of the initial high prices ure paying for cars.

A new BMW 328i costs only US$40K in America. (Dont do a currency exchange as u are not a tourist). So with such low prices would anybody bother about resale value? Surely not. But we can't say the same about Malaysia can we? Our cars cost approx 6X more than many other countries.
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Lets make simple calculation
US40k = 120k
after 5 years you lost 120k. Not including expensive insurance.
malaysia you bought it let say 280k
after 5 years you can sell it at least 140k
you lost 140k hmm.gif

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jai2005
post Jan 5 2012, 02:52 PM

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Haha where's elantra story
why we talk about dugong, ops vios, forte, civic
lets stop talking about abnormal car import duties at least until 2015.
Hope that time no more AP rclxms.gif Then 2nd hand car shop kena jual besi buruk lah

This post has been edited by jai2005: Jan 5 2012, 02:54 PM
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(WheelieWonka @ Jan 5 2012, 02:57 PM)
100% Agree rclxms.gif

Maybe one fine day we all we be treated as EQUAL citizens, but I see that day as very, very far away...

I digress too...maaf2 blush.gif
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ok at least Elantra price is EQUAL to all malaysian.
Come on SD, give us a good news brows.gif
jai2005
post Jan 5 2012, 03:17 PM

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like this sure bro Fluidic will marah lah
because no question he can answer smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 03:50 PM)
buy prius C la, might be below 100k
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it's real? If true for sure I'll fill up redemption form of Hyundai thumbup.gif
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post Jan 6 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 6 2012, 08:33 AM)
When U dont like what others say in this forum, U just undervalue their opinion & say they won paralympic.
But true truth is U are not really understand about ur post especially about COE and Singapore policy.
COE is not fixed as it's an open tender and more variable compare to Malaysian tax.
Generally their car price higher than Malaysia except for luxury car bcoz any car above 1.6cc can apply for COE category B or open.
Mean that Elantra 1.8cc or Forte 2.0cc will get same COE like Merz S500L or a Ferrari. However still most Singaporean buy normal like us such as Civic, Altis, Vios, Accord etc rather than buy luxury car.
That's why also Hyundai Singapore decided not to bring 1.8cc Elantra coz it will sell around SD 130K-150K which will be too high based on current COE.
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MeToo and grey had brought good info to discussed
Its something new for me. Thanks for it and already understood.
Lets continue discuss with elantra topics.

QUOTE(mac.tay @ Jan 6 2012, 09:08 AM)
sonata 2011 showroom car 115k, elantra price @110k how =="
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That's because of long list of gadgets attached.
But I like that except this pricing news.
I hope is not true...

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post Jan 6 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 6 2012, 03:51 PM)
Read my previous posts. Ive explained all this before.
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I also curious to know, may you point it the post?
I guess is just simple because of kia able to lowest their price...
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post Jan 6 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 6 2012, 04:44 PM)
Imagine a couple who've been together for years. Hyundai is the man, Hyundai owners collectively is the woman. Now imagine that at the beginning, the man wooed the woman with plenty of promises and his dashing Korean good looks. The woman finally agrees to take the man home to live together as a couple. It was good for the first few years, then suddenly, that handsome Korean man this woman married turned out to be a real liability, being a guzzler and always costs a bomb with every trip to the clinic (service centre).

Worse still, her friends all married Japanese men and report that their husbands are generally problem free, just like their fathers and their fathers before them. They ridicule this woman for having been sweet talked into marrying a Korean man who's only good on the outside but rotten to the core. It's become so bad that when she tried to trade him in for a better husband, the husband traders didn't want to take in any Korean men.

One day, she meets a new man. A young, extremely handsome Korean man with plenty of muscles and a long and sturdy gearstick. He tries to seduce her, but in the back of her mind, the rotten memories of her previous experience with a Korean man has left her jaded with anything Korean. Nonetheless, this new handsome man tells her that he's different, that he doesn't need to visit the clinic as often as previous generation Korean men, that he will give her the ultimate ride of her life!

In the back of her mind, she is thinking to herself, "Should I trust this new Korean guy, or should I listen to all my other friends and go with a Jap instead?. A Japanese man does nothing for me, but after all the pain that I've been through, will I risk it all and go Korean again?"

In the meantime, this clueless new Korean man who thinks so highly of himself, and for good reason, since he's a much improved version of his predecessor and knows that the woman will not go wrong in choosing him, refuses to oversell himself to her, and instead waits patiently at the side, hoping that the woman will eventually come to her senses and make the right choice. He is unaware of the personal conflict brewing within this woman, and the fact that she is really keen to take him in, and all he needs to do to convince her, is to....

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so sad la bro. Sorry to hear that rclxms.gif
That's why I saw many young people only get married with korean. Including me (forte). But I hope my story will be happy ending icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 10 2012, 09:08 AM

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this car got new award thumbup.gif
http://paultan.org/2012/01/10/hyundai-elan...he-year-awards/

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