Inspira 2.0 also now rm6.5k discount... More value for money... So whats value left for elantra now heh...

Howdy!

Anybody saw the Elantra ad in today's New Sunday Times' weekly supplement CBT (Cars, Bikes, Trucks)?

It says 'Coming soon in February 2012'.

No specific date mentioned.

Cheerios.

Read this first before commenting about the Elantra's fuel economy:

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/resources/...tra11292011.pdf

We all willing to listen what is the reasons why in other country the forte price is similar to Elantra or at least not far from each other and why here can't.... 

And Look at those comments I think most of us can even accept 5-10% more than the forte...

As a customer point of view, we don't actually fucuking care how strong the cable of Naza or SD....  As long as can bring us something worth better the $, we are happier...  As simple as that....

If Naza can make it cheaper, we consumer will be even happier if they can bring in this Elantra...  Isn't it?
Agreed...  Soon, it gonna ruined this car if the pricing info is correct....  Which a lot of us already consider this is a very interesting car...

If this car's pricing is not right, this is alternative by proton
http://paultan.org/2012/01/19/proton-p3-21...ong-the-guthrie
I heard this car has 7 speeds gear

But our Bro Fludic says that Hyundai is premium brand?

Think twice before take Hyundai Car. 
1. The Tucson car has the cap of the fuel tank under the back seat. Which means there have the "fuel tank access" at the back seat.
2.Both Front Door can easily be open eventhough already locked from inside.. just simply pull the door latch. Highlight to SC, they claim that so call future design.
If above is the fact, the Hyundai car is just have a nice look but the customer safety not the priority concern in the car design concept. Further more if you go to access below link , you will find that a lot of customer struggle in Hyundai bad service .
http://www.facebook.com/hyundaimalaysia

"Hyundai overall is more premium than KIA".

It is true a fact but not entirely true.
It just from perspective of global consumer including in south korea from the beginning of korean car industry.

Hyundai and Kia are technically separate companies, with Hyundai owning less than 50% of its junior partner. But as the two major divisions of the Hyundai-Kia Motor Group, the two firms share resources and align their strategies through carefully-maintained relationships in the classic Korean chaebol (conglomerate) fashion.

Hyundai and Kia enjoy a dominant position in Korea, earning 45.2% and 33.2% of the overall Korean market in 2010 (including commercial vehicles).

Technically, it just like Proton and Perodua in Malaysia. Proton initially said to be premium than Perodua. However, time to time Perodua catch up wt Proton in term of pricing & quality. Lastly there almost no different between their car (pricing & quality).

The past few years, it was said that Hyundai built better car as they own better technology, factory and staff.
However, the gap is closer and closer as they share all their resource.
As the result, current car pricing and quality is same.

Current KIA & Hyundai strategy marketing position is same.
Elantra & Forte
Sonata & K5 optima
Genesis/Equus & K9

VW vs Skoda & Seat of course different brand positioning.

Is this correct? Corolla US spec has 5 speeds compare to Altis 7 speeds
the result is why US spec get only 35mpg meanwhile here got 5.5L on fuel consumption ?
May someone answer me... As I know the engine is same

yes, so that they can give you good car at low price.

Currently similarly price rite. Range of pricing is same.
Where got better spec? more or less is same if compare full wt full accessory.
Of course K9 yet only available in korea, while only marketed globally later. But that not the issue.
In term of marketing positioning, it will be the same as every car; they share technology, engine, chassis etc.. Only design different.

I agree wt U in term of marketing strategy, they attract two set of buyers.
However doesnt mean, in term of pricing, one is premium; another one is not.
Doesnt mean value of Hyundai or KIA better than the other.
K9 more or less same wt Genesis.
K5 more or less same wt Sonata.
It hard to tell which is premium than the other as the gap between them not wide as 10yrs ago.

PS: It also hard to tell which is premium either Honda or Toyota bcoz more or less their strategy is same.

please bring the discussion back to Elantra.....

Haha, those US and European don't like auto, not only CVT, in Europe, more than 80% of registered card are manual trans while in Asia, more than 90% registered cars are Auto trans.

they always want some instant power. they love torque, so even their camry mainly is 3.5, no 2.0, and 2.4 very few to be seen.

first comment down there, lol

"Why the hell shouldn't it? With 198 HP available total and more torque than the gasoline version, who would be stupid enough to buy a V6?"

v6 is 3.5l

For those who are curious about pricing and launch date, I'll say anything concrete will only be revealed after Chinese New Year, not immediately, maybe 1-2 weeks after.
It's been a sticking point for long and I think I've answered this before, but kindly explain why you think INOKOM is different from Hyundai?

Imported Hyundai and locally assembled Hyundai goes to the same service center, unlike Inspira / Lancer.
Inokom badge simply mean the car is a knocked down assembly from Inokom. Oriental had different way of doing things last time, so does Inokom, no two company works the same way.

So here's another question, what about CKD continental cars like BMW/Merc/Volvo? Does the same mentality apply too?
Inokom's assembly infrastructure are from Hyundai themselves anyway, I have not seen any obvious difference in quality of CBU/CKD Hyundai thus far. Most Hyundai cars we received as trade in varied from mint condition to a total rust bucket. Some people buy Hyundai because it is cheap, and because it is cheap they are not willing to pay and keep a proper maintenance of the car. Regardless of what price your car is, proper maintenance is a must, such offender aren't limited to Hyundai anyway. We have traded in 3-5 years old Japanese car that are rattling all over and falling apart too.

The official pricing is not known for the Elantra yet, but I am pretty sure the sales department have the same thought as you concerning price range being too close. It's not likely that they will give any explanation to me because that would indirectly give me hint on the Elantra's pricing.

definitely!

i mean at the end of the day, it boils down to branding and mind set loh.

Forte in Malaysia is called Naza Forte or KIA Forte ah?

On a separate note.... wah... this one bila datang? I like leh... but most likely price will kill it again.......

http://cforum3.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?...&extra=page%3D1

The non t version also Cooper engine meh? 4 speed potong stim wor...

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Added on January 21, 2012, 4:04 pmGenerally.. Ckd car are much cheaper compare to it cub sister...  Merc same, BMW same...  But maybe this Elantra no...  Coz award winning mah... 

Training in terms of comparison. If something is better than the other and we said so, did we bring down other people, or we brought our advantage up?

Learn to stomach facts, don't just simply say we're bringing other people down just to compete. I did say KIA make good cars, but Hyundai simply make better one.

The major problem comes when you undercut your competitors by too much. Take point for example the Sonata, since it's priced a good 7-8k cheaper than the Camry/Accord, it now makes the gap between d segment and c segment Hyundai narrower, and now everybody is sayiing Elantra being too expensive. I think I mentioned this before, if Elantra undercut the competitors too much, it'll be a problem for HSDM to price the Accent, the whole cycle continues.

I wonder how KIA is going to price their b-segment car, at Proton killing price maybe? That is if the government approve that price.

just saw a red color elantra at penang bridge, reali nice car and color.

Headach, which color u all go for?

then how u know bout the steering badge?

cannot compare with forte bro... forte can make it for <100k for 2.0 but elantra cannot... cannot compare... different...

er... u din quite got the sarcarsm bout the elantra's "rumored" price, did you?

in newspaper today....

yea... sonata half a page... elantra 2 full page of the 2ndary section..

3rd of Feb I wil be able to see the true face of Elantra  at  IOI Mall Kulai, Johor