In that case pls check yr personal email.
I sent the same just in case.
thks

please pm me details

Problem of obedience?

How true it is now that minority Chinese, being the most obedient citizen in this country as proven by the biggest taxes they pay to the rulers are called the kingmakers in order to keep rulers protected by special rights. The kingmakers get their lives by giving whereas protected ones get their lives by taking from the public.


This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in. ~Theodore Roosevelt

Done already.

Can pm me? 4D prediction????

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Added on July 10, 2012, 6:21 pmIn the long run, just liked ginseng or tong Chung chao, there will always be demand for bn...but don't expect the price to recover for the next 3 years...it will rise back when supply is short again which I see none....I wish it will recover in 3 weeks though....but the wish never come true ....n I been wishing ever since for the past 10 months....n still wishing...



This post has been edited by ChanK: Jul 10 2012, 06:21 PM

Even @ 1K per Kg is sustainable if successful but most BHs aren't nowaday...... and we aren't going to allow those greedy B**** to get to us. Farmers getting peanuts and middlemen get all.

By the look at your BH, you may going to get more than just a drop in price but rather wrong choice of area esp. with residential houses behind the BH.......so, beware and don't disturb the peace or may face the compound like some of the BH owners will be receiving very soon here; from my information, about 20+ BHs ( all 2S BHs) going to receive compound of RM5K each for renovating without approval........and still no lesen issued for BH. All because of public complaints about sound disturbances.....

Just a friendly warning only and without any ill intention on my part.

The Bersih 3.0 rally/demonstration in KL for a clean election is yellow... the anti-Lynas Perhimpunan Hijau is Green (Environment as in Green Peace) and now bird nests farmers are staging our demo on 21-7-12... what color should we take for to represent us? Should we use Red as in the Red nests that landed us in such a protracted troubles? Red can means anger as in the English expression... Seeing Red... Well, we are seeing red in the dramatic fall in prices in bird nests since a year ago and there is just no relief in sight... the government is causing this industry terrible harm by the way it had been handling this matter... how long must we wait before its resolved?

This post has been edited by philoswiflet: Jul 10 2012, 10:46 PM

yes, thank you. and luckily i receive the approval just in time....

like my friends in timber industry.. to them, they are earning peanuts nowadays.... to us, they are still earning like god nowadays, just not as much as before....

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Added on July 11, 2012, 8:52 amthe residential behind my BH is an old residential where most of the residents(old) move to new township some 500m apart and (young) move to KL as my area is sub urban area

like many industry......... the beginning is profitable but limited to knowledge of several privileged, when it goes viral on the profitability, somehow, something must happen that cause chaos, cause new regulation cause price drop, still the downstream product price remain the same and also increase with inflation... yet, raw material price remain the same

This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Jul 11 2012, 04:25 PM

They chose Light Blue as they are mainly from tht group.

Everything up except the birdnests; do have positive thinking and maybe soon, we shall be able to get back what our's.......a fair price for our nests.

15 years ago, EBN was over Rm6K and now, we are 30% of what once was but everything up by at least 3 folds. By adjusting to the value base on the standard of cost of living now, our EBN should be at least value @ Rm10K per kilo..........won't that be nice....C'mon, can't I at least be allow to dream hahahaha.

TF, how many people do the Fed want for the meeting on D day cos the Association here has already stop non member but BH owners from registering for the meeting. but I strongly disagree. I believe that we shouldn't stop at 3K and better if we can maybe 10K or even more to show that we really mean business and not play play only lah.

From what I heard, we have 3 bus load of birdhouse owners going from here....we all there to show support and unity over the unhappy events facing our industry......

Many Swiftlets Associations didn't know about the event at all or the Presidents of these Clubs aren't supportive of the event.....according to Ms. Carol, press news of the event will be on paper tomorrow.

like political parties, some associations didnt even inform us the members regarding any event/news.. they only contact us when they need us like vote

Sorry I am not involved in organisation just relaying the messages.

Yes I agree that the more the better but I believe the organisers are afraid they will not be able to handle the situation. There is nothing stopping individuals from attending by themselves.

All state associations have been informed, so I was told. Call your respective association heads for more details on coaches and other travel arrangements.

Phone numbers for most associations have been given in last few postings.

News is out on Sin Chew Daily night edition said, just a FORUM and only 1000 participants are expected from both East and West Malaysia. Sound like a soft launch event!

Maybe we can help the organiser? Can anyone type mandarin OD event details and SMS to any of us so tht we can send it out to all farmer friends? Maybe English n mandarin each...anyone?

From what I heard. the venue can accommodate 2K and will install giant monitor for those cannot enter already. Expected participants around 3K and from information gather, it has drawn the attention of our PM and so, we shall try to make it a success and demand our rights!!!! Why it's call a forum and not otherwise, I think we all know the reason..........a soft event can be turn in to a giant ones if we all there......cos after the green protest, the Gmen may ban us from having the event.

I am not in the organising team nor involve in the preparation of the protest or what ever you call it and it main purpose is to get the attention of the Gmen to our grievances and any lesser than that will be a failure on the organizers.

We all will do our best to help the wholesalers @ Association cos it do and will improve our abilities to sell oversea esp. China. If we are not allow or rather the main bunch of exporters are not allow to export EBN, we are and will always at the mercy of the few selected ones.........so, I don't care, I will go even if the chance is 10% success rate for at least, I did my best to save the swiftlet industry.

People like KL and others here who will gain the most if succeed in persuading the Gmen to relax the export regulations, we shall have faster and better chance of gaining our former glory. So, I expect these guys to be there and stand in front for it's their battle for survivor that we are fighting and our's too as by doing so, more buyers meaning better price for EBN in the future.

The stadium have plenty of parking spaces,if stadium cannot accommodate, we can stand outside, but with the slow action fr organiser in selangor, we need to SMS all selangor farmers urgently so tht they can come.

I think the event will have lots of press peoples there.....we need to let our pm see the number of farmers,family affected by it.....2 or 3k is just way too small.....

We have to flood the stadium n the parking lots till the side of road.

It is a forum, it is not a protest yet. So, I think nothing going to happen there even we have 10,000 ppls there..

wow, sounds like a big event happening soon....

Nearby BH Associations may help us in preparing banners to show our grievances and anger but never on politic. who know that it not going to be a forum or that our banner prove otherwise.

We are not against the PM, the Gmen ( only few ministers maybe) but we surely unhappy and angry aver the ways they handle the crisis which should be clear by now cos it's over a year and if continue, don't know how many more will die. give us back our rights and help us if they can but if cannot, don't create more mess. Chinese still eating EBN in China but we are suffering because lack of buyers and those having tunnel into China are killing us by pressing down and down price and everyone know that in China, price still the same for our whites although lesser customers esp the rich and famous ones.......those buying @ RMB60K for the foolish RED nests. These group aren't our's in the first place as we don't have RED nests and we never will.

These Rich and Famous are powerful in China and they are hurt in their Ego and felt Stupid but they don't go down easily....and will take revenge but why us but the present problem are more on our Malaysian Authorities rather than of China. China just wanted our exporters to ensure that the nests exported are as required so let the exporters follow the requirements and not us, the BH owners to suffer. Just my opinion over the matter. If RDIF not required, then need not but if anyone exporter wanted to be smarter and give additional confidence to his Chinese Buyers, let him and him alone does so and not make it into a requirement for all.

Too many Red tapes and too much unnecessary procedures with too many ministries involvement will certainly kill us. Be smart and allow all to export following the requirements of the buyers' countries and not ours. If any producer want their nests multiple ISO/FDA/***** certified, let them do it on their own as these may lead to a special high end EBN selling @ RMB60K and this time, White one and not Red one!!!!!!

Like you said, this time is different! It is WHITE not RED. WHITE is the color of future and the color we fight hard for!

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Added on July 12, 2012, 9:01 pmI am more afraid of my own ignorance. That is why I am here, so are you and
everyone else in this forum. So what should we do to change the status quo? Sit
idle and enjoy the show one after another? You will find it ever more breathtaking,
swearing and gnashing of teeth in frustration as it unfolds. Do the reponsible thing,
demonstrate initiative to ACT now. As there are very intelligent people on this forum,
what good are they if they are a coward to ACT?

The future is OURS if we want it!

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jul 12 2012, 09:01 PM

So sorry to ask. Where is the venue for this upcoming event?