this is a sad thread for many months dy .. sigh.. when will be got happy posts! ?

Why feed swiftlets when we now don't have enough to feed ourselves.

I'm disillusioned, why support any swiftlet association when the heads of these associations who are supposed to help promote the industry are probably the very ones who are effing us !

Why rushing suddenly? Rally with just two weeks notice....btw, why none of the associations inform members n u think u can group enough ppls with such short notice?
Heard they have collected rm120k so far...how much they needed?

Don't underestimate the power of
patience of ordinary folks.

Lynas was exposed last year and many ordinary folks like me are caught by
surprise. I believe the time has come now to demand that this system be changed. I
believe the time has come in this country to blame you and me and everyone else
connected with this system for sitting idly by and permitting such an idiotic system to
continue.   

Will your vision and power help nail down all the politicians with evil agenda? Limit
them to two terms, One in office and one in jail. Let them "shine" in the world for the
bad deeds done to our country.

May all your stars shine us a brighter path to the future.

One of the more mysterious and problematic elements of human nature is our tendency to be obedient; to look for external authorities to tell us what
to do with our lives
We must know how the first ruler came by his authority.

Just maintain 85 and 29 u cannot go wrong.

Even @ 1K per Kg is sustainable if successful but most BHs aren't nowaday...... and we aren't going to allow those greedy B**** to get to us. Farmers getting peanuts and middlemen get all.

By the look at your BH, you may going to get more than just a drop in price but rather wrong choice of area esp. with residential houses behind the BH.......so, beware and don't disturb the peace or may face the compound like  some of the BH owners will be receiving very soon here; from my information, about 20+ BHs ( all 2S BHs) going to receive compound of RM5K each for renovating without approval........and still no lesen issued for BH. All because of public complaints about sound disturbances.....

Just a friendly warning only and without any ill intention on my part.

Can pm me? 4D prediction????

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Added on July 10, 2012, 6:21 pm
In the long run, just liked ginseng or tong Chung chao, there will always be demand for bn...but don't expect the price to recover for the next 3 years...it will rise back when supply is short again which I see none....I wish it will recover in 3 weeks though....but the wish never come true ....n I been wishing ever since for the past 10 months....n still wishing...

Many Swiftlets Associations didn't know about the event at all or the Presidents of these Clubs aren't supportive of the event.....according to Ms. Carol, press news of the event will be on paper tomorrow.

Already confirmed by today news,vds stop bn export to hongkong.

Why? Who instruct them to do tht? Why we stop it? Did china issue ban on importing of bn to HK too?

Also Melaka president,John Chen, ask all farmers to come n voice out for NO RFID.

Pls SMS all ur farmer friends to SMS to the following no to register, provides ur full name, last four digits of ur ic no n contact no to person in charge,I think tuck fock shares it in previous post.

They said they need 20,000 farmers to come to support. Thts more like it, forum or protest or discussion....who cares? Go show them our anger...

That's good idea about shits, maybe can put in a small plastic ziplock bag, mix shits with some water n throw to the hazer n haze helpers.

Tht will be great publicity n great stories for the press.

Any wet shit bags sponsor?

No need lah, just bring one bag each.

From my little belief and what I C cos I M no scientist.

The haze does affect BH population and that's the reason that birds migrate to nearby countries from Indo due to the Haze and for that reason, the Indo nests are less white than our's. Every year, open burnings there cause panic and birds to migrate to safer places and we gain alot from Indo during the initial years although we do have swiftlets but not alot during the older days as we never given these birds a chance to breed.

But now, the open burning seem to worsen and we are now being affected and birds will fly away more to Northern regions to be away from the Haze. Also, during the unrest in Indo, many BHs were burned down esp. those of the Chinese and the birds flown to our area and we provide the birds with safe sanctuaries and we experienced huge increase in Birds during the good old days.

Before that, we Malaysian even have EBN in our houses, we chased the birds away like my grand parent did as no one knew anything about the EBN and how the nest look like. We were told that EBN are from the Sea swiftlet ( Hai Yen), and they live by the Sea.

It was the Haze that bought the birds to us and it's the bigger Haze that will cause young birds to move to our Northern Neighbors.

The heads that you elected are looking after their own pockets first. They likely 'anticipated' or engineered the situation but has now gone out of control.

The reason they are now making noise is the falling price of EBN which is affecting them big time as they are the big timers who stocked up as the prices dropped, hoping to monopolize big time. 

Some caused the price drop to be able to stock up in a big way and wait for prices to rise again after awhile. Never anticipated the 'awhile' became over a year.

Now if prices rise again, these big timers may stand to recover loses or even profit big time.

For us small timers, where do we go, left also wrong, right also wrong where to turn to? 

No monopoly.

No 30ppm nitrite, use WHO standards.

No restrictions on export except on govt. levies,

and we will be on the way to recovery.

With No restrictions, no monopolies, the big timers will have to sell at market prices, us small timers sell our stock to the world at current prices and eventually the big timers will also have to sell at the lower prices...............until the current stock is depleted and then the farmers will increase prices according to supply and demand not some big timer stocking and controlling the market.

Just my 2 sen worth on world EBN economy.

Remember, my friends....all must stand Tall!!!!!
Also, remember that we are still Gentlemen even if we are dealing with thugs!!
All we are asking are what righfully our's and we are not beggers......what's crime or bad things have we done to deserve such dirty action from the Gmen. We are a bunch of decent and honest men trying hard to make a clean living and we didn't even get a tiny loan or little aid from the Gmen in this industry.

We don't mind that our nests to be exported by international law and regulations but not Guidelines purposely created to rip us of our hard work.

If like this, you build BHs and wait for years while  I monopolized the export when you have nests to sell.....we saw how the farmers suffer in the hand of the middle men and I forget that technically, we are also farmers and now, we share the same fate.

We act now cos NOW is already late.....any later, we won't have enough men standing as many are already gone.

Easier said than done. Need someone like big shot to initiate this kind of thing.    Btw Chank, how is your area bird nest price? Now here is lowest. After harvest also sakit hati    RM1500-RM1700 only.

All my life, this is the first time that I see a elected government intentionally disallow home grown products from exporting for their personal gain.

PUTRAJAYA: China has agreed to set aside the mandatory use of radio frequency identification (RFID) tags on bird's nests exported by Malaysian swiftlet farmers from the protocol of entry of bird's nests into China.

Agriculture and Agro-based Industry Minister Datuk Seri Noh Omar said China's General Administration on Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine accepted Malaysia's request for the removal of the mandatory requirement, following protests from associations representing swiftlet farmers.

The Chinese authorities however insist that we have a mechanism to manage the traceability of bird's nests produced in Malaysia right from the farm, he told a press conference at his office here yesterday.

With the removal of the mandatory use of RFID, swiftlet farmers now have the freedom to use any of three traceability systems recognised by the Government.

This includes RFID, barcode and quick response or QR code.

Noh said they would also set up an advisory board, made up of representatives from his ministry and associations representing swiftlet farmers, to make sure communication lines remained open between both parties.

On the issue of exporting raw uncleaned bird's nests to China, the minister said this would only be raised in a new round of discussions with the Chinese Government as the current protocol of entry which is expected to be signed on Sept 19 in Naning, China only covers raw cleaned bird's nests.

Noh also slammed a group of swiftlet farmers who are refusing to accept the Government's solution to China's current ban on Malaysian bird's nests.

“If they cannot even accept this (new arrangement), then it is clear that they simply want this industry to fail,” he said.

Some 250 tonnes of Malaysian bird's nests were exported to China before the country imposed a ban in July last year after finding high levels of nitrites.

However, in April this year, the Chinese authorities signalled that they might lift the ban after setting conditions, which included a nitrite content level not exceeding 30 parts per million.