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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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post Nov 29 2011, 11:39 PM

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When officials from China come to M'sia and find that we are still selling Red nests at outlets of some major shopping mall, do you think that they will agree to our Govt's sincerity to work for mutual benefits? They will probably think our
Govt is trying to poison his own citizen... just my 2 sen rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Dec 2 2011, 08:11 AM

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To newbies, consider buying established bh when price are lower now instead of building new one, do make sure it still has potential for further growth. Besides, it is one way to help those who might be tight on cash flow.
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post Dec 2 2011, 11:12 PM

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Unless you can be sure of result of your new bh in 5 years, otherwise buying old at lower price will give you a head start.
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post Dec 4 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel.N.Amel @ Dec 3 2011, 12:39 AM)
are there any active members from Miri, Sarawak in this thread?
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Lucky you got Ben!
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel.N.Amel @ Dec 4 2011, 11:39 PM)
Who is Ben?
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He is Benchai and the one and only.
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post Dec 14 2011, 01:28 PM

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Mine has the same problem, but after I've replaced existing ELCB with less sensitive one, so far ok. Anyway, good to know computer surge protector can also do the trick to protect amps from lightning.

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post Dec 14 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(coolandy @ Dec 14 2011, 06:01 PM)
Agree. Make sure you use Cal-labs http://gmysamptimersolarwire.blogspot.com/ whether you go through MCB or by-pass MCB.

1. Direct without going through MCB. You risk a fire if there is overloading due to lighting or faulty system. Cal-labs Lightning Isolators is MANDATORY.

2. Use auto-close ELCB. Price around RM900 - RM100 without installation. Cal-labs is still mandatory to protect your sensitive equipment from surges coming though the power lines. Surges coming though speaker wires is not protected.

3. In severe lightning prone area, the ELCB itself can be destroyed by lightning. Replacement is expensive.

4. Use Hager ELCB which is less sensitive to nuisance tripping.

Above just my humble opinion. Input from qualified electrician is much appreciated.
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Auto-close ELCB priced from RM90 to RM100 without installation? Gosh! I need a Cal-labs before my amps go up in smoke one day. Thanks guys!

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post Dec 16 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ Dec 15 2011, 11:06 AM)
make your own auto close RCD/ELCB  - Note this is not a ' FUSE '  this unit detects residual or leaking current to earth so preventing accidental electrocution.

A small car wiper or power window motor is used to reset a normal RCD/ELCB. This is coupled with a timer so that the reset is done after a delay of 20 mins. or so  to prevent immediate reset due to electrocution. I use a electronic counter to count the number of resets as high counts could mean that the electrical system is being tripped by something other than lightning.

A replaceable surge protector is available for direct placement into you standard fuse box, about RM70 or you can make your own using components that cost half as much. Note that any surge protector that does not burn or self destroy after a few surges is not necessarily doing it's job. A Varistor is the major component of a surge protector, these are the DISK like components found in the surge protectors, very cheap to replace or made into a DIY surge protector.

Have fun and learn a little about electronics and electrics, save yourself some money in the long run. Most of all, save yourself the trouble of trying to get someone to help you fix the problem.
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On humidity and temperature readings from attached, are they from top to bottom accordingly. Seem like the second temperature reading is lower than the ground floor? Is that the norm? Wish you can share your performance of each floor from your BH with this setup if you don't mind. It an't my only question, it is for now til I find time..

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post Dec 19 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ Dec 19 2011, 11:01 AM)
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Am in Hongkong now and retail prices are still the same as 3 years ago. Some but not much red nest on display.
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Red nest on display were not for sell as I was told about 2 months back and I surely hope it stays the way or removed from market shelves totally because people today have an alarming ability to forget the recent and distant past and if we want to see the glamours of birds' nest once again such as,

1. Good history of medicinal values.

2. Scarcity.

3. Good advertising and promotion by the emperor/empress in the past and many other great people in recent history.

4. Long lasting and storable

5. ?

Feel free to add...
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post Dec 20 2011, 07:37 PM

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I believe, in Macau, like Hong Kong, there is still sign of red nest on display in the street but not in big amount. Either these medicine shops have been around for too long with red nest that they can't remove them totally from their clients or the authority has shown compassion or leniency on them? It's anybody's guess. But in my view, being a source of bird nests, we should not take cue from some isolated Hong Kong or Macau medicine shops, being part of a problem instead of being part of a solution to adulteration. For our future generations' sake, let's work together toward creating a genuine/non-fake, 1st class quality bird nest producing nation.
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:11 AM

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TF, make correction on the price for White nest please.
If 1 tahil = 37.8g is true, then the price is still strong, isn't it? I am interested to know how many genuine shoppers there are at these two separate instances.

P/S It's not easy to take picture like that. Thanks for sharing.

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post Dec 23 2011, 04:44 PM

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Hmm...I wonder forum is taking a cue from the poor retail sale?

Shoppers' confidence in authenticity is the most crucial factor for the price of nest to maintain. If a frightened shopper knows that red is a no-no, sale of other nests will also be affected. Since the consumer confidence is not restored to pre-crisis level, more discounts on nest price from retailers could be expected, from now and into the festive season. What does it entail after the festive season? Retail sale to decline further and no sign of raw nest price to bottom out, unless all farmers band together just hold their raw nest until demand forces pricing to correct upward. Afterall, farmers are always getting the short end of the stick.

So for now, only if China authority starting to look into authenticity issue, giving a clear picture on what is allowed, lifting the ban from import of true nests and applying a "no double standard policy" in the existing "One Country, Two Systems" framework. or the problem is not over yet...Just my own view.


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post Dec 26 2011, 10:28 PM

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11/24/2011 9:14 24.00 96 120 12/26/2011 20:06 Min Temp
11/24/2011 11:14 24.40 98 120 12/26/2011 20:06
11/24/2011 13:14 25.30 97 120 12/26/2011 20:06
11/24/2011 15:14 25.90 98 120 12/26/2011 20:06 Max Humi


Reading like this is from standalone BH, during a rainy season? Maybe you need to insulate your walls or keep your ventilations holes closed at this time of the year.


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Rumors has it that many are selling very low and no one can blame them cos they are scared and maybe they need the money.
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Do you have the data how many are selling very low? 20 out of 100 or 50 out of 100? I'm interested to find out. icon_question.gif

Agreed that some need the money by selling low....Hope it's not more than 50% so that we are still holding happy slightly. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 8 2012, 07:28 PM

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Just calling in to see if the storm is over or shit still hits the fan? 30ppm as a new standard is a very good start to get our lifeline going again. Thanks to all parties for their time and effort put forth to resolve the issue; Thanks to all farmers who hold on to their nests for what their worths. I believe the demand of our true nests will increase more in due
time to fill in the store shelves left empty by the red nests and fake nests. No more the guilty go unpunished while the innocent get penalized...and no more shit hits the fan in many generations to come...my wishful thinking?

The day the Chinese delicacy shark fin soups are banned are the days bird nests
demand will peak...just my wishful thinking again.
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post Apr 29 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(coolandy @ Apr 29 2012, 05:23 AM)
I saw some swiftlets in the sky during the Duduk Bantah. Grass swiftlets.
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Those that choose to see nothing, hear nothing, say nothing and do nothing, rather they be nothing. Actions speak louder than words for the sake of next generation. Good job to all who support fair election and clean environment...no more privileged few do the flying while the patriots do the dying....birds will thank us for that for sure.

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post May 2 2012, 08:13 PM

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Call me presumptuous, but I assume it's China-approved instead of WHO-approved. Can China bypass WHO, seriously?
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post May 19 2012, 09:14 PM

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Wow! look like BN is going to regain its shine soon from the all the discussions we see here...
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post May 21 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ May 20 2012, 01:14 AM)
I agree if you mean 'shine' as in wiped out so clean that it shines.  biggrin.gif
It becomes more true with every bullying event committed like that is just reported tonight on Ambiga.

btw earlier you had a Qs on WHO std which I wanted to respond to but forgot.
WHO stds are not binding on members.
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BN as in our lifeline, Bird Nest.

On another BN, I wish them luck as they need them now...Ambiga is true patriot and leader of rare quality.

Indonesia is still under the watch of WHO on bird flu case unless BN was delinked from bird flu to which I've not been posted.
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post Jun 19 2012, 11:24 PM

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I am not selling low if the price of nest in the market is still strong. By the way, does anyone know how much they are selling in Shanghai now per kg? It's a good benchmark to sell our raw nest, no price manipulation.
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:22 PM

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What I see around me is that the market will evolve into new form as the once leading player replaced by other player. No surprise if you see one's stocks are not moving while others' stock are moving in the market. The moving stocks cleared the custom with 17% GST fully paid. The reshuffling of players are imminent and dealings are probably more ethical than before. But hell, What do I know? Just what I see around me.

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