So are we f****ED!!!! What is the current raw EBN price heard the best grade is selling at RM1,800 - RM2,000??? Any updates!!!

middle man wanna buy in RM1800-2000(grade A)
bh owner wanna sell in RM2400-2600(grade A)
So, what is the price????

RM2500 minimum

Now market price up to rm2500 already?

No bro, ppl want 2500 but middleman offering 2k.

If you pay 2.5k for nests, I think easily can get 100-200kg in no time.

happy holding ,,,,,,,,

http://www.cnr.cn/gundong/201202/t20120226_509207262.shtml

http://news.iyaxin.com/content/2012-02/26/...ent_3359523.htm

http://www.people.com.cn/h/2012/0226/c25408-2500574383.html

http://politics.caijing.com.cn/2012-02-26/111714833.html

http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/180297?tid=10

wah tis time wanna play ""burn bird nest "'ahhhh,,,,me also wanna see how to burn as wat i know frm indo is ""goreng pon sodap pak""

This post has been edited by kohloh: Feb 26 2012, 02:52 PM

Wah ban everything. Habis liao.

Buyer here offer 2100 but no friends selling and hopefully the price will go up......buyer came recently and again, Yesterday and must be desperate for nests otherwise will not offer 100 increment but still not to our request for 2.5K min.

I believe there are still sellers for Rm2.1K as the buyer isn't increasing enough so the waiting game remain until one back down........or that the present sellers are out of stock but difficult as they harvest immediately when the birds finished the nests and that's bad for birds propagating.

Luckily, God is playing a hand that the birds aren't making so many nests as before so as not to flood the market with cheap nests. Even at my BHs, only 50% of the birds are making nests and maybe the birds are having family planing as there are lesser food due to the climate changes .......

Bro can you summarize in english?? Thank cannot read chinese mah...

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Added on February 26, 2012, 12:03 pmBro can you summarize in english?? Thank cannot read chinese mah...


This post has been edited by maravanz: Feb 26 2012, 12:03 PM

The header of the news article read "Our tourists (China) not allowed to bring bird's nests into country".

They used to be able to bring 1kg nests per person and that's how they smuggle nests from HK to Shenzhen last time. So now it means even harder for BN to get into China, only big players in the game now....

Thank you philoswiflet well said. I fact I think this wake up call will stablished the swiftlets industry as a whole and is benefit both swiftlets farmers and the populations who suffers as a result of in controlled and regulated swiftlets farms.

Fro those who are caught in the cross road I feel very sad but must endure the pain for a better future. Some will shout until they are Bule in the face but pls consider we all must live in harmony with our neighbour they also share the rights to live in a peaceful and healthy environment .

This also opens up opportunities for some to explore so many opportunities and all for a better future.

Please don't cures at me for my comment which is only my personal opinion. Our present predicament is our own making and only myself to blame . I have built my 24 th BHs and in progress my no 25th,26th, and 27th BHs. So I know what I am talking about! Pls be patients things will surely be normal again as the consumers are buying which is important. My friend with 10 processing plants with 1000 wokers was reduced to only 2 working plants told me that demand is back and have all his 10 plants now back to normal. Surely price wil eventually increase.

ask two buyers :

one said, better sell as next month prices will drop another few hundred.

one said, prices will shot up few hundreds next month.

so, who to believe? ..hahaha...sell half and keep half. just in case prices drop, u don't feel sad as u already sell half. if prices goes up, u still feel happy as u still have half of the goods and u can sell it at higher prices.

but lately, buyers are getting active back this week....last few weeks if u call, they just said, we will call u when we have buyers..

while waiting for our final destination to hohlan...maybe it is good to invest to buy some more lands as lately the market not so crazy liao, and the prices already stable..buy now keep for three years and sell at 200% untung maybe can cover our loses.

and again, how many can afford to do just that?...not many.

Quality nests always fetch higher prices. There is no standard in defining quality. Everybody claims his nests is the best but the buyer always want to pay lower price by claiming someone else nest is much better. Goes round and round in a circle that is getting smaller.

middle man which mean want to earn atleast rm600 between. owner should sell up 2200 - 2800 sumore make stand price!

Now, since the door to China is temporary closed, We Malaysian BH owners/buyers should look and try to sell to other countries to sell off our nests. No more use to blame here or who but to try to solve the present situation and that is to get rid of all excess nests without destroying the price. Here, we do have chinese workers buying EBN at reasonable price to take home and now, this door is also close and we are as blurred as the rest as what to do when we harvest our nests or rather leave the nests there but then the thieves have been back again doing their job and even at Rm2K, that is still a good income for stealing without any investment.

Heard that other producing countries are all back to recovery and someone who has the information may want to post here to confirm it.

By selling too low will only cause and worsen the EBN price and not good for the industry at all. If someone tell me that better sell now than regret later; for this, I would say that by selling, you create another opportunity for shark to go for another slaughter ie forcing another reduction of price and that will worsen the already bad situation.

I rather hold back and pray that we will have a increase in price for EBN or otherwise by selling low, we are infact helping to cause the downfall in the price of EBN. We need all support and if a portion not support the idea, the whole ambition will fail as no buyer will pay for more if they still can get cheap nests and cheaper each time they come hunting for nests.

Blame yourself for ever that the nest fall below Rm1500 per Kg. Buyers will scare you off by telling you that the price will go down in a week or month and if you fall for it, then the next seller will sell because the buyer will tell the later one that you sold off your nests for the price.

Although we cannot predict or control the future but at least, we tried our best to defend and protect our nests in the best of the ability that we we can. We just can't sit down and hope that the storm will just blow away and we need to prepare for the worst; that maybe that the storm will last for months or maybe years to come. Hope and pray that this storm is a short one or otherwise many BH owners may fold up due to the inability to pay off loan taken to built BH.

Maybe, we do have experts here to advice us here on how to export to Singapore where the price is much better there or other neighbouring countries where they face no restriction on export on EBN.

One Dato came out with a suggestion that the govt. buy up all the unsold nest and resell them when the price is high or process the nests for local and export market. This way, the govt. will be helping the raayat to solve the present crisis and the raayat will not suffer more than they can stand.

My opinion if you do share the same.

West wing

Some of your logics make sense but some of them are not. Since you said we cannot predict the future and the storm might last few months or years, we cannot simply keep the nest for half year. Mind you, keeping nests over 20kgs already make us headache. And there are many type of farmers in the market. Rich, poor, breakeven, non breakeven. The rich farmer maybe can keep 50kgs-100kgs, thus great holding. Poor farmer cannot afford to keep that long, they got to pay car and house loan.

Those BH already breakeven one can sell at any price they want because no matter what price they sell, they are making profit. To hold or not, it is up to them whether they feel more comfortable to hold cash or bird nest. BIRD NEST CAN BE HARVESTED AGAIN. Once they sell, the money can be invested in other things.

You see, this is a free market. Hold--supply short--price up doesnt work that easily. Not everyone is millionaire, so they just cant hold it else who want to pay their daily expenses, loans and other things? If they are rich, maybe can jual mahal decline to sell like a boss. You forgot one more thing, price is cheap now and it is now more affordable to consume nests. Your other logics make sense, just slightly biased on holding bird nest part. Just my 2cents as a farmer and 1st year degree student

Sifu benchai, the only explanation for your friend's plants to be back at capacity is that China demand is back. However from news and from other sifus we know that the BN market in China is pretty dead right now. Has there been a change the last month or so? Anybody visited China lately please enlighten us on the BN market.

By now most of you should realize that China = Kingmaker. Without China's huge demand for bird's nest, the price will definitely stay low. The price will only recover once Chinese ppl start consuming BN again. A lot of Chinese national I asked still have the belief that BN is good and healthy for the body, but do not dare to buy/consume because of all the negative news surrounding this business, ie. red nests made with feces, fake nests, high water content etc. Once they start eating BN again the price will definitely come back up, problem is don't know how long this process would take.

lates today-

""Hong Kong & Macau nest dealer suggest a total ban fr importing nest into those 2 country as China had bad its nation to bring back nest frm overseas travel,,,

& our boleh land play""burn nest""

Just to update you all Malaysian. I'm from Thailand and we face the same crisis as you do. Nothing has been done from our authorities. Nothing. Your Malaysian Government at least has done somthing (but could have done more). Now BN fetch same price here for around RM1800-2000. I myself, as stubborn as Uncle Westwing, refuse to sell and now keeping almost 70kg stock. Lucky I have other small business to be able to manage. Now I'm so sick of this I will draw a letter to the Thai Ministry to help your Malaysian Authority in together discuss to the Chinese and really see what they are up to.

This is my first read back in 3 years I guess. Farewell and best of luck to all of us.

Bro, I don't understand Can elaborate more ?