wah now u call me "bro" ah & some time u burn me ah...burn me nvr mind dont burn nest....

today HK&Macau nest association merajuk say China disallow it nation to bring bac nest frm spacialy tis 2 country la, so they dont have any biz la so why not jus ban tis product frm entering to their country since there will be no more biz ma...MERAJUK nama ny....
but i think tak jadi la as i jus sent 2 box over....jus like boleh land wanna burn tis burn tat
me jus bac frm Cn meting wit those gov people there.Fr wats going to come up later u guys will know lo,,,,,,,,,,,,

HUAT AH!!!!!!


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This post has been edited by kohloh: Feb 27 2012, 05:22 PM

Bro, I where got "burn" you before wor ??? Lu salah lang liau la...

Oo..merajuk only la. If real, I can convert my BH to store room liau.

solly lo salah lang,,,no need store room ...mushroom farming also Ok ma,,,,

u know hong kies la,,when get step in their tail sure bing bing piang piang with those relative in ,,,,
but for over 50years avoiding pay tax exporting into CN they do donno only,,,,,

brid nest wont be dead in the future but some one wanna change e ""BANKER""only....

not bad ho,,,not even an hour over 100 viewed,,,can publish book aready,,,

hav a look at our hero there in CN,,,1 lawan 8 cina gov people..
any one here willing??not happy wit prices =go market yr self la,,,,
prices drop half only bing bing piang piang wanna die la,,wanna burn la ,
how bout our plam oil owner once prices was rm80-120/a ton fr such a time,
all die off ah???
dont jus want to promote how many bh u hav,,,how a great sifu u r or how a great engineer u r,,,
kanasai....

5 o clock newss lo,,,, http://news.cntv.cn/china/20120227/119332.shtml

CN no give face even HK& Macau i dont think he will give to A Jib Ko or lo si mah,,,,,



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This post has been edited by kohloh: Feb 27 2012, 07:13 PM


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To check if the market of bn is getting better, just see how often nests processors come in here n comments, then u know they are back at work loh...hahaha...

so, now we know thai prices is rm1.8 to 2.0, what i know, indon selling at rm1.10, rm1.35 to rm1.75.

The demand is picking up as another big gang is starting to collect this week. cross finger to sell higher than 2.2.

Actually no one force us to sell,u can keep till another 100 years also can. i wish i can keep too. but all my legal ah loongs, cinb, armbank, pubicbank, citybank are side cornering me for interest...so what to do?.

today, one of our senior complained in newspaper, ` I don't think the govt know how many malaysians depends on this industry to survive', `without this industry n this income, u want us to sell 4D to make a living?, sell nests make a living better or sell 4D?, `with the ban of sending 1kg by mail or handcarry, 60,000 farmers will have nothing to eat.

So, lets see how the prices affected from here.

we faced so many challenges for so many years for so so many times, it is nothing new....just relax n don't go heart attack then go up back 4k also no use liao.

when come to price prediction, always remember whether tht guy is collectors, processors, middleman or etc....most of the times, they just gives out false info.....kena so many times liao...

my opinion, if can hold, hold it for good sake as the market will not be flood with too many nests, and let those who is desparate to sell it off first. never blame them as it is a free trade market mah.

Wah...really Kena band already.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Feb 28 2012, 09:19 AM

Que Sera Sera, what ever will be will be....

If all lost faith in the industry, nothing can help us.

The American and European never like EBN but we may try to convince them to take EBN. Taking about birdnest, many years ago, one British tourist asked me where he can buy nests and he told me that nests is good for the S** and although for the wrong reason, he was looking for birdnests.

Best if we can at least convince our restoran/ hotel to serve birdnest instead of shark fins as many people now are environment protection and concerned with the decline of sharks. Then, we spread our wing to Japan and Taiwan where they too treasure birdnests although the Chinese are the rich ones that can really afford the birdnests. With the present price, everybody can take birdnests once a day...for health.

From what I experienced and heard, EBN is really good for the lung problem and illness like asthma as many parents gave me feed back on their asthmatic children taking birdnests. We must try to sell the nests to locals for health reason like old folks, expecting mothers and preventing illness which the Chinese have well documented all the goodness of birdnest..

Never cheat again and only prepare pure cleaned nest for consumption and not adulterating or bleaching done. Selling 100%% pure nests with nice packaging as gifts and there isn't a better opportunity to try out this golden opportunty with the present very low price of nests.

When I said that maybe many year; I never mean that we keep the nests for many years for I too will not keep the nest for too long and will have to sell if the price still maintain low after a few months cos this is fate that we need to face and we need to face reality which is that doing BH is not a choice of the day and those who want to venture into the buz must wait until the better days, like in the stock market when we did have good time and bad time and this time, the stock market fare no better.

As in everything, there are up and down like the coco, once was so low that no one want to harvest the coco fruits and let them rot cos the processing cost is higher than selling the dried coco seeds. Now, coco fetch so high a price and we shouldn't have sold off our coco plantation during the bad time but who know when the price will go up.

To sell or not to ...is entirely up to you cos if you sell your BH now, at least you still get back your investment back but later, you may lose all but then if the price of EBN goes up and so will the value of BH, you will not forgive yourself for selling off your BH.

Above, just for discussion as there are nothing left to talk about except TC only.

jeng,,,jeng,,,jeng,,,,
all nest smuggling channel into CN is put to an 100% halt frm today,,,,
CN hav no guide line yet fr legalise importing,,,,,,,

lets hav some Teo Chew music here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

How about your factory? Affected too? Seems like everyone is affected this time though.

if i say not effected then its bull shit but i am lucky tat its jus started to effected me yesterday,,,not 8 month bac,,,
lucky i hav CN gov connection tat they will play tis biz hugely but hav to wait center to issue e guide line lo,,,,

then lets play some teo chew music first la,,,,keee keee ku keee keee,,,,,

thinking of going camping in deep jungle fr 1 month ,i think when come out e situations also still e same,,,,,

keee keeee ku keee keeee,,,,,,,,

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This post has been edited by chitchai: Feb 28 2012, 10:09 PM

hello guys.. any farmers here that has invested BH in Cambodia?

or had ever done a research on the feasibility of setting up swiftlet farming Cambodia?

pls share ok.. thanks

Cambodia good place to invest!. when malaysia govt shut us down, all the birds will fly over there for sure. guaranteed 100%!.

don't worry about temperature, as hot temperature area will becomes desert and all birds will fly away, cold temperature area will becomes swiftlet heaven in future. always think of future when comees to bird's nest. above is my opinion after whole night tui in overtime.

I think the fair price for raw bird's nest is still RM2.80.Those who can hold pls hold it till that price.

Too bad this industry is not exclusively to malaysia. indonesia, thailand, vietnamese n etc are also big export players...i wonder if our govt know about it...the way they act n plan is liked we are the only one in this world supplying bird's nests.

It is power play in china, see who comes out the bird's nest king in china.

Like always, it's all way down before we ever becoming great. We was No.2 and now, we are no.3 and soon, we shall be no.5 after Vietnam and Cambodia.

All we want is some free space for this industry to flourish without too much restrictions like our neighboring producing countries. We need to be able to compete with other producing countries to excel. If our authorities is going to tie our hands and the other countries aren't doing the same; we here are all soon going to TBT....or Holland the chinese used to say.

All I believe that the authorities should support us but never restrict us and we appreciate any real guidance and proper advice from the caring authorities or infact anyone with the intention to serve but never to sabotage or to create sinned/ unhealthy opportunity for those piranha who were not in the trade before but now venture into the zone to make fast money.

Like I did mentioned before, most of China's processed food export are mostly over the PPM limit issue but never our authorities mentioned and how come our birdnests which are organic and without any additives face such difficulties. How come these healthy birdnests that have been safe for hundreds of years suddenly becoming a health problem at all...

I understand that there were problem before facing the EBN issue due to some bad people or ignorant people who intentionally or unintentionally did used wrong methods to processed EBN but all needed is to make sure that in future none of these happen again and why totally banned even chinese taking back EBN as gift back to China.

If I am not wrong, I believe that there are some thing missing here or should say that " Ada Udang sebalik Batu" ........maybe, there is a conspiration going on and That's s my guess over the issue.

As expected, China has put a ban on all forms of raw EBN.

China has not banned EBN in the processed( canned or bottled) form, which is probably good for the industry worldwide.

This opens the way for ISO certified EBN processing factories in this region to produce a variety of ready to consume EBN concoctions for the world's market.

Now is the time for Malaysia to be No.1 ?

So, forget about graded EBN and vastly different prices, forget about colour, forget about sizes, it's all the same EBN, as once prepared, you cannot tell the difference.

many thanks for your reply.. reason being me asking is that im really interested in investing in a BH here in Cambodia due to the favorable results of my uncle's BH back in Sarawak. and i wanna invest here in Cambodia because Malaysia is flooded with BHs nowadays

i had not done much research on the BH investment here. however, i read an article months ago that this place, Sihanoukville (coastal area of Cambodia) has over 200++ BH already im thinking should i join the crowd there (due to the advantage of it being a coastal area) or should i find somewhere and be one of the pioneers of setting up a BH? i will read up on what are the best places that is most suitable for swiftlet to stay in... or anyone here is kind enough to give me a summary??

ok the highlighted in and bold above, Mr. Chan K, why do u think that Cambodia is a good place to invest BH? mind to elaborate? probably after u sober up from ur tui in overtime also, when msia shuts swiftlet farming in malaysia down, only the birds will fly to msia? what if msia decided to legalize it under agriculture? then the birds wont fly here anymore?? or does Cambodia has its own supply of swiftlet (born in cambodia)?

anyone here already invested BH in Cambodia? Please dont be shy to share your voice or anyone here know some successful swiftlet farmer in Cambodia??

everyone knows Cambodia is usually very very hot.. birds dont like hot temperature, do they? so looking at a location which has average cold-warm temperature should be an ideal place to start swiftlet farming? please correct me if i am wrong.. im starting with the knowledge in this aspect will be starting to read books on swiftlet farming starting today and hopefully can consult and further my knowledge with all the experienced and professionals here

icecold, I think Cambodia's weather should be similar to those of peninsular Malaysia's East coast, since Cambodia's shore line is located along the Gulf of Thailand, which is essentially connected to south china sea. It is slightly located northwards so the temp should be cooler.

I think for most ppl, the problem is how to manage your BH in Cambodia, not its weather.
And you're wrong about swiftlets, they are a tropical species therefore they love hot and humid weather, you go somewhere slightly higher like Genting Highlands and you will see zero swiftlets, a lof of grass swiftlets but no EBN-making swiftlets.

I am also interested in BH in Cambodia, the only problem is how are gonna manage BH?? Any masters here are running this or experience the practice there? Our government seems like not very support in this farming. Appreciate more inputs.

we in malaysia also cannot see clearly the future of bird's nests industry here...let alone helping u to see cambodia bird's nest future...

but my instinct told me, first find out how your govt think of this industry, their worry, their view, their future plan and if there will be future govt cronies want to monopoly the market ...but then how to see the future till that long...no one knows what will happen in the future...let alone the future of bird's....a human predicting the future of a bird...hahahaha....funny...very very funny....hahahhaaha....

if still think of wanting to predict the future of birds...hahaha....grab a map or google cambodia map...just like human...birds also created by five elements, earth,water,fire,air,and ai ya..forgot the last elements...too much tui in overtime....so, same like human....they might look for a better surrounding area that can provide them with foods and a save place for their kids...so, just liked our anscestors...they lived near to rivers, a place not too hot, and can find foods (hunting animals n etc) easily in walking distance...and when that area is lack of foods, they will migrate and move to a better place for the future of birds.

So, u look at the existing farms in cambodia, the hotspot area, then u enlarge the focusing area...and look potential area that u think bird's will migrate to...then u have a very good chances of hitting the right place ( the silver plate). And if you so lucky to find a place that u think...arr...this place is far better place to stay for the birds and why it all stay there? ...then u have a very good chances of hitting the gold mine....

or, if u don't liked to do that. Just do liked me when i first started, saw few birds flying...wah!!!!!...got birds woh....do loh!!!...

so, ends up i stuck here loh....tui............

the end.


The prices of bird's nest will shot up to RM2.8k, hold it if u can hold.

This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 1 2012, 09:03 AM

thank you so much for that piece of advice appreciated it lots!! thats why these swiftles mostly flock around coastal area, be it riverside or seaside? am i right on this? thats where their food chain is located at... correct me if im wrong

i will probably pay a visit to the infamous swiftlet concentrated farming place (which i read from an articles there are more than 200 BHs) within this few weeks and see how they run it there.

About how to manage the BH, i will also try to find out whether there are any local regulations/authority overseeing this particular industry or not. if so, what are the criterias, restrictions, support and so on......

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Added on March 1, 2012, 10:45 amgood to see that u'r also interested in BH in cambodia... managing the BH here i believe would not differ much from how u manage ur BH back in malaysia. the only concern is that whether the local govt here supports this industry or not. if yes, what are the regulations, criteria or support from them? let me try to find this out and will keep u all posted

are u also operating a BH back in malaysia?

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Added on March 1, 2012, 10:55 ama very good understanding on bird's nature there makes full sense and i will definitely remember that...

currently from what i read from a local magazine, there's one concentrated place where there is an estimated 200+ BHs already. i will probably pay a visit to that place and gather more info. my current strategy is not to go to the BH flooded place... as u said.. enlarge the focusing area and look at potential area and get myself a gold plate... provided i make enough research on the area im trying to venture into and setup my BH.

may i ask a silly question? say for example i came to a new place, located along the riverside, weather not too hot, average humidity (bird loves high or low humidity arr??), lots of food sources around ie small forest, river bank...

in order to kickstart my research and venture deeper into BH, can i start by building a single storey small scale testing BH? purpose to test on the population of birds and whether the place is favorable for them to generate my gold mine

if result turns out to be very good... only i start up with a proper 2-3 storey BH again... this is to prevent me from suffering unnecessary losses by starting up small first.. just in case the birds doesnt thinks like i do... i like the place, the bird does not


This post has been edited by icecolddamncold: Mar 1 2012, 10:55 AM

We in Malaysia can't even persuade our govt to assist us and how are we going to Cambodia to build BHs and be safe there. Cambodia shouldn't be a problem with swiftlets but with human difficulties.

I surely will not for at least we know how to settle matter with the authorities here but in Cambodia, maybe they still use M16 to talk. Wanna invest in Cambodia, marry a pretty lady there and she shall be your savior in time of danger.

Again, just talk only as I haven't been to Cambodia and maybe, once there will not want to return to Malaysia again...hahahaha