Alright thanks for your input.

Yeah, go for it. I am like you. Nothing in a consumer level router scares me. Then buy Mikrotik and thought what have I got myself into. Lucky got this thread, plenty of guides here and Google.

But seriously, steep learning curve yes but not for a basic Unifi setup. Basic setup is kacang putih. It's only when you want to start doing more with the router, that's when you need to break-out the search engine and wake up dormant parts of your brain.

btw, what speed is your internet? This will determine how powerful your router needs to be. But for basic setup, RB750Gr3, hAP AC2 or hAP AC3 all can do handle 1Gbps. Since you're using mesh AP, just get non-wifi RB750Gr3 to save a bit of money. hAP AC2 and AC3 are more or less the same routing speed. Both are faster than the RB750Gr3. If need more power, can go for RB4011 or RB5009. I'm using the RB5009 now having just upgraded from hAP ac2 and RB750Gr3 before that. Plus side: the RB5009 can be used as a weapon.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Jul 3 2022, 12:29 PM

I'm on 500mbps currently. When you say power, do you mean handling high traffic demand like say torrent?

I narrowed down my choices but I am still mulling between my options LOL. Would love to have more input so that I can decide better.

New PoE switch from Mikrotik:-

Im on 300Mbps.Hap Ac2 would not do CAKE @300Mbps (fast track disable,wash 'on',diffserv 4) if you are planning to use it.
Just my 2 cents

What do you mean?

Its a tool to combat bufferfloat.Just do a test using flent,maybe you dont need CAKE or other type of aqm.

Normally I would look at routing speed in terms of bandwidth, Mbps and packets per second, pps. Also RAM. Well seeded torrent is a good test to stress a router. You can check the performance specs of MikroTik routers on their respective product page.

For normal user, if using Fasttrack (aka cut through forwarding, hardware NAT, NAT Boost, etc), even old RB750GL can handle 500Mbps.

CAKE is a type of queue in RouterOS7. You can read more about it here. (https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Queues). But don't worry about this too much. More advanced queues tend to be more CPU intensive. I just use the default only-hardware-queue.

Here's a page on buffer-bloat. https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/...or_Bufferbloat/

Bufferbloat is like a traffic jam which results in increased latency when there's heavy sustained network traffic. For home users, chances are you'll only see this during speedtests, the occasional Steam download or a well seeded torrent.

I see. That's something new for me. I'll check them out.

These are helpful. Thanks.

To give you some perspective,i did some test with my sister's house with this parameters.
(Only my laptop hooked up directly to router LAN,both Wifi was turned off,same laptop)

Disclaimer,Im not an expert,and i have no networking background or working in networking field and english is not my main language,
and take my explaination with a grain of salt.

RRUL(realtime response under load) Flent.

Without Cake(default Unifi Router,default setting)



With CAKE(Hap ac2,diffserv 3,wash is ON)



The ping shoot up to nearly 400ms for the first 15s,and hoovering to 200-250ms with default router.Tik with CAKE,it was at 45ms some sort of under control.

This is my flent result at our home without any AQM.



I have no need of AQM on our home.

Enjoy your reading.

Interesting results. What speed is your sister's Unifi?

FWIW here's mine. Flent 2.0.1. Python 3.9.13. Unifi 800Mbps. RB5009. No queues.


Are there other netperf servers that we can use? Highest total download I can get from singapore.starlink.taht.net is around 600Mbps.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Jul 8 2022, 10:22 PM

Both were 300Mbps.We are living approx at 600KM apart,not on the same division.I had the test during my visit to her house during Gawai.
Just to give example,some do need it and some dont.Maybe something to do at her end(congestion,oversale or other possibility)

There are some more servers,but those were located very far from us.Singapore was the closes server that I know.Just replace the singapore to other place that you could think of.

After reading testing and teracun with those graph, here's my graph. hapac2 + fq_codel (with fasttrack enable)+ unifi 800 (test inside pi4)



This post has been edited by ahlong: Jul 19 2022, 09:58 AM

It seem you capped the download/upload to 50/10 Mbps.On my previous test on cake with (95 % bandwidth) fasttrack disable,dual stack,diffserv 4,wash "on",max out at only ~230Mbps ish on 300Mbps with Hap ac2.It can do on fq codel.

Im wondering,how much could hap ac2 could take on fq codel?400Mpbs?or 500Mbps maybe?

Im learning this aqm because im planning to install 4g internet to my parent in law since there was no fiber on the area and hopefully can control latency since we often video calling.

Also,i did my first wireguard vpn server with hap ac2 with my android mobile as client

My kids will eat up all the bandwidth if no simple queue set

Lazy to pening2, put all entire bridge interfaces.

Latest RouterOS 7.5 beta released today added 802.11k to wifiwave2. Earlier beta had 802.11r for local interfaces(?). Now just need to wait for Mikrotik to release Wifi 6 hardware.

This post has been edited by soonwai: Jul 27 2022, 10:45 PM

Here you go...




This post has been edited by hasmidzul_jojo: Aug 3 2022, 04:21 PM

Awesome! hAP ax2. Can’t wait till it’s available here. Of course news of this has to come out just after I got a 2-pack of Deco X20.

Not sure what spec for the new hAP ax2. If like ax5000+ then i might get one for second floor wifi.
If good enough and acceptable coverage then i going to replace my xiaomi ax3600 for ground floor.