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BlueWind
post Jun 30 2022, 10:32 PM

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I'm thinking to replace my existing router that started to show some age now. And here I am hoping that you guys can shed some opinion here whether Mikrotik suits me or not as I understand it has lots of features with steep learning curve and I am exploring my options.

I don't consider myself as advance user but I only know enough to get myself through any typical consumer grade routers. What I'm looking for is stable network throughout the house with up to 7-8 devices connected including gaming desktop which I am hooking up via ethernet currently.

I don't think I will need any other features as I don't know how to use them most of the time.

What I have in my mind right now is hAP ac2 or ac3 to pair with mesh wifi system. So, would you guys still advice someone like me to still go with Mikrotik? To be honest, I don't mind a little tinkering to get it work though.
BlueWind
post Jul 1 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jun 30 2022, 10:49 PM)
If you care about stability, most modern consumer routers are really good these days.

The hAP ac2 and ac3 are not fast either. Most mid-range WiFi 6 routers have a much faster CPU with much better NAT performance.

Unless you love to tinker around, getting a typical consumer router is more practical.
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Alright thanks for your input. thumbsup.gif
BlueWind
post Jul 5 2022, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 3 2022, 12:24 PM)
Yeah, go for it. I am like you. Nothing in a consumer level router scares me. Then buy Mikrotik and thought what have I got myself into. Lucky got this thread, plenty of guides here and Google.

But seriously, steep learning curve yes but not for a basic Unifi setup. Basic setup is kacang putih. It's only when you want to start doing more with the router, that's when you need to break-out the search engine and wake up dormant parts of your brain.

btw, what speed is your internet? This will determine how powerful your router needs to be. But for basic setup, RB750Gr3, hAP AC2 or hAP AC3 all can do handle 1Gbps. Since you're using mesh AP, just get non-wifi RB750Gr3 to save a bit of money. hAP AC2 and AC3 are more or less the same routing speed. Both are faster than the RB750Gr3. If need more power, can go for RB4011 or RB5009. I'm using the RB5009 now having just upgraded from hAP ac2 and RB750Gr3 before that. Plus side: the RB5009 can be used as a weapon.
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I'm on 500mbps currently. When you say power, do you mean handling high traffic demand like say torrent?

I narrowed down my choices but I am still mulling between my options LOL. Would love to have more input so that I can decide better. thumbup.gif

BlueWind
post Jul 7 2022, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Jul 7 2022, 08:54 AM)
Im on 300Mbps.Hap Ac2 would not do CAKE  @300Mbps (fast track disable,wash 'on',diffserv 4) if you are planning to use it.
Just my 2 cents
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What do you mean?
BlueWind
post Jul 7 2022, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(hasmidzul_jojo @ Jul 7 2022, 01:48 PM)
Its a tool to combat bufferfloat.Just do a test using flent,maybe you dont need CAKE or other type of aqm.
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I see. That's something new for me. I'll check them out.

QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 7 2022, 03:16 PM)
Normally I would look at routing speed in terms of bandwidth, Mbps and packets per second, pps. Also RAM. Well seeded torrent is a good test to stress a router. You can check the performance specs of MikroTik routers on their respective product page.

For normal user, if using Fasttrack (aka cut through forwarding, hardware NAT, NAT Boost, etc), even old RB750GL can handle 500Mbps.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jul 7 2022, 05:47 PM)
CAKE is a type of queue in RouterOS7. You can read more about it here. (https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Queues). But don't worry about this too much. More advanced queues tend to be more CPU intensive. I just use the default only-hardware-queue.

Here's a page on buffer-bloat. https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/...or_Bufferbloat/

Bufferbloat is like a traffic jam which results in increased latency when there's heavy sustained network traffic. For home users, chances are you'll only see this during speedtests, the occasional Steam download or a well seeded torrent.
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These are helpful. Thanks. notworthy.gif

 

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