LOL.. If i have good investment. why i have to pm you. This world is full of greedy people

unless you have a crystal ball to tell the future, nobody really knows what it will be like to flip. if it is well planned and connected, you will definitely be able to flip it.
rental for landed property (homes) will never give you the best yields anyway.

Good investment does not =greed for all cases.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Jul 14 2012, 05:35 AM

Hi guys,
Anybody interested in single storey corner shophouses
In desa coalfield
size30x65
Freehold
WTS

This post has been edited by mtgh: Jul 28 2012, 09:10 AM

lately paid a visit to the site, the main entrance at phase 1 was closed, then have to use another new entrance near phase 2 shoplot & Areca side.
these pictures was get from Oleander site.

View from Oleander

Areca site


This post has been edited by BSCalex: Jul 17 2012, 04:51 PM

Your are very hardworking visit the site quite often and update us with pics Thanks a lot

The center pic shows the road level at Oleander/Areca side is on the higher level, raising about one floor of Banyan at the area... is it so ?

Yeah, really glad that you guys update pics on this thread - helps to have an idea how things are going on over at the site.

*About the road, I think it is just not flattened out yet? After all, they are still under construction, I am guessing that they will flatten and paved the road?

Ya, seriously this house is so important for me & family sure to be cautious a bit
btw after visiting everytime, my satisfaction will be upgrading by seeing all the progress & changes at the site
seneador btw are you banyan buyer?
If got time advise u go there & have a look then you will get a better view.

This post has been edited by BSCalex: Jul 20 2012, 11:59 PM

Could all the Banyan owners please join this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/38835511789...898515/members/

Would like to find out if everyone would like to INCREASE the SECURITY in our area. There are a lot of things we can do for e.g.:

1) wireless intercom system to guardhouse ( no need wiring)
2) group buy alarm and cameras
3) Install high-tensile steel fences at the back of our houses (block side entrances)
4) get a guard + dog to patrol 7pm - 7am

Do many of you share the same security concerns?

Good good !!

Henry, if you see this - would it be possible to get a list of e-mail addresses for all the Banyan buyers? Would like to invite them to join the FB group.

According to the Banyan brochure, KLK will provide 2 years of security patrol after CCC. Though this is not inked in the S&P, so up to them to honour their words.
If they do, we have plenty of time to form a proper resident association and finetune security issues.

Also someone here once mentioned that KLK will provide perimeter fencing. Again if true, good.

By the way, there are no backlanes. If your unit has a back neighbour, there is only the fence separating you and him.
This is usual for semi-D's, and is better for security.
But it limits any extension to 5 feet only..........

If you were rich enough to buy those double frontage units (nothing in front or back) then perimeter fencing will make better sense.

The back of my semi-d faces the main road which leads into BSC, as would many other semi-d's facing the main road (including those facing the pond).

The fence put up by KLK might not be suitable to ward off motivated criminals. If it is simple fencing, anyone can cut and enter and climb your back wall. As it is our front wall is so low anyone can jump over.

As for the guards, if they are just going to sit at some pondok and just wave everyone in, it's quite pointless. We need make it efficient: 1) Print stickers for each section 2) No sticker, no entry without confirming with the occupants of the house you want to visit 3) No answer from owner, guard call mobile 4) Still no answer, guard to turn away visitor/contractor/service provider/pizza delivery/whomever.

I don't trust anything that is cheap or free because a corporations main intention is to make money. Nothing is free.

Hope KL Kepong will provide a concrete wall fencing.

That's why I choose to buy Bromelia instead of Banyan. no more unit in front opposite my unit, is the concrete wall, behind the wall is Banyan units, the wall is 10 feet higher than Banyan road, so from the safety side, I don think anyone can climb the wall by carrying the things, somemore Banyan also guarded if come from Bromelia entrance, then is too far for the thief to choose the furthest row from the entrance.

We have had the misfortune of witnessing how robbers came and left in our housing estate in PJ. In both the 2 incidence in two different housing estates, they came and fled in their own car with one driving our car they had robbed. What they needed was just to clear the guard house to enter, park their car nearby and then get down with parangs to enter the victim's house compound. They easily overcame the occupants, screams all no help in both cases. Guess what, in the first case we couldn't even recognise who was screaming as the voice from the victim was so distorted due to fear. In the 2nd. case, the neighbours heard my landlord but were indifferent to even call the Police due to some bad relationship with him (it pays to be nice to neighbors). So the parang robbers took whatever, in these 2 cases the cars and drove off in high speed! In Bandar Utama, they even rammed past the bar barricade! It is hardly a bother to have fencing or walls. What truly is at best to hope for is an efficient guardhouse service like what Papadon has proposed. Once they are in, they can drive to any row right to the front of your gate. It won't really matter which address or row you are situated as it is about what and which home they have targetted. After all is over, they can actually leave unchecked as in most guarded systems, only the entrance lane is blocked by guards, not the exit lane.
Another issue: it can be quite expensive to pay for guards. IN BU11, each house needs to pay RM500/year because the enclosure has few homes and only 80% pay up. If what the developer provides in future is inadequate, then it means that all the Banyan and Bromelia owners may need to cooperate in scaling down the cost. I am not sure about the location and how it is going to be: can the guardhouse at Banyan lead to a more secure Bromelia? In any case, Bromelia's support is certainly helpful, or esle what should be a pondok will only be a 'payong' with a chair to sit. In Taman Megah, there are two separate managements. As a result, the fees come to RM720/yr. per household.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Jul 27 2012, 04:10 AM

Good feedback Supreme. Further to my earlier suggestion:

1) The guardhouse should be set so that we have only 1 way in and 1 way out. Like modern developments where the entrance/exit is the same place. Wireless intercom with panic button upstairs & downstairs. Guardhouse will be proper one, not kotak + umbrella. Got more money, get a patrol for 7pm-7am

2) Vehicles WITH STICKER only can enter - no sticker need to register and guard needs to call owner to confirm entry. No confirmation, no entry. Tak kisah if it's your mother-in-law (in fact you may want to give the guards pictures of who you don't want to let in LOL)

3) Payment of security services - try to think about it this way:

Cost of:

Car: RM50,000 onwards. Lose car, have to rent car. Insurance pay you 80%.
House appliances: RM50,000 onwards. Stolen, too bad.
Your wife kidnap: Priceless
Your children kidnap: Priceless
One of you get robbed: RM500 onwards (if got laptop,iPad,etc - add more)
Someone get raped: Priceless
Someone get killed: Priceless

How much you spend on unnecessary stuff each month: Ask your ownself. For e.g.I pay RM190 for a Fitness First gym membership which i use 2 times a week.

Now let me ask you, my fellow BSC-ians: What is even RM50 - 100 a month for your SAFETY? What is even RM150? Too expensive for your life, family life, happiness? Once kena, then wish to pay is too late.

I'm middle class, but I will pay a fair amount each month to ensure my family is not robbed, kidnapped or raped or suffer property loss. Remember this - for next 10 years we got a lot of construction = A LOT OF BANGLA, INDON, MYANMAR, WHATEVER is walking around your area 24/7. Are you going to sleep well at night? Not me.

Please share your thoughts.

Seri Coalfields buyers, do you work in KL?

I too agree that security is all that matters. Without it, we can be brutally attacked. A lecturer lost his Honda Accord and his shoulder was chopped and he fell. He couldn't even write for his arm needed to be bandaged. My aircond. wireman told of an elderly lady badly beaten and hospitalised when robbers couldn't get anything of value from her home! Without health, we can't even go out and earn a living! Heartless employers can even sack you.
As such, it is above cost. However, I advocate that we should get as many people in as possible. It costs more than a hundred thousand ringgit to construct pondoks, employ guards and to erect the boom gates. We also need the residential committee's approval for the traffic access layout plan.

I agree with Supreme, thank you for the good suggestion. As such, the group has been renamed BSC Banyan & Bromelia Owners.

ALL BANYAN AND BROMELIA owners, please join here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/388355117898515/

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Added on July 27, 2012, 9:38 pmBukit Damansara

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Added on July 27, 2012, 9:53 pmAssuming the yellow line is a wall or fence built to separate Bromelia from the low cost area, then the red spot is where we can put 2 guard posts and the blue line is where we close the road. This should give both Bromelia and Banyan better security.

This post has been edited by papadon: Jul 27 2012, 09:54 PM


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