Looks like the site master layout overlayed on Google Earth I did sometime ago was quite accurate.

As the picture show the tracks recorded with my GPS unit are not far off from the roads, which are still in the early stage of construction.

The boundary between Bayan and Bromelia is separated by concrete retaining wall with some area as high as 10feet (rough estimate). Bayan is a small precinct by itself with 2 access. If we make this area gated, the advantage is that it is easier to manage but the cost will be higher.

This will be something for everyone to decide. Everyone needs to work together to ensure the safety of our loved ones.

Just received a mail from KLK sales agent.
Banyan II maybe launching next week.






This post has been edited by BSCalex: Aug 2 2012, 12:21 AM

Mr. Chow the KL-k Banyan project manager has confirmed that the road is quite far from the banyan homes. It is 50ft. away from the back wall to the edge of the road. The road is only 2 meters higher than the Banyan ground.

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Added on August 2, 2012, 5:33 pmAs future residence, I believe that it is of importance not to wait till we move in to discuss security matters. Reason: we will be subjected to the danger as soon ad we move in. Even for the investors who are not staying in, it too will be in their interest to ensure that their properties are not broken in. When robbers find nothing, they may make sure that you get nothing after their visit! Angry robbers hit out nonetherless.
What to discuss now:
Firstly, to find out from the developer the details of their offer of a guarded service. If such service is not satisfactory, we the property owners can then come together to discuss and agree on additional measures to beef up security as complementary measures. This cannot be done without forming a group NOW! Why? It takes time to get more to get people to join in order to have a bigger fund base to purchase better and more effective resources, to coordinate access points so as to avoid possible clash of interest between the different groups eg. Banyan semi-d and Bromelia residence.
Secondly, if we form a group now, we can formalise it as soon as possible into a Residential Association after we move in.
Issue: How to get more and more owners into the Facebook group. Any suggestion? I don't think the developer at this point when houses are still being constructed will agree to help us form a group.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Aug 2 2012, 05:33 PM

What's the brochure price? Better specs, smaller built up. Modern design.

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Added on August 2, 2012, 9:10 pm
For personal reasons, no do facebook, so won't be joining it.

My experience from 4 years serving as secretary on the RA in my taman :

The developer will normally provide guards until most of the units are tenanted, in our case KLK says they will give two years.
The guards main duty will be to guard the empty houses, not us. Usually the exits will be manned.
But we can always piggy back on their system, pay extra to get more guards to patrol. Will save cost.
At this point it is unlikely we can engage our own security, unless the developer /or their security firm agrees.

When times up, we can either retain the same security service if we are happy, or tender out to other firms.

My main concern will be the perimeter fencing. This is the first layer of security.
No point having guards if people can move in and out from all angles.
Still unsure how much fencing KLK will provide, and what quality.
If we want to do our own fencing, need to have a registered RA to push and 80% residents to agree.
Consent from the local council (MDKS) and funding from own pockets.

I am not sure if there is still space to get all buyers to sign a DMC (deed of mutual consent).
With a DMC, the RA will have more power, e.g. to compel everyone to pay for security. Otherwise it is all on goodwill.

This post has been edited by awiva: Aug 2 2012, 09:14 PM

Just want to ask how about safety in Desa Coalfield? Maybe as forecast for BSC~

From the discussions feel sad what is happening to our nation's security~

Awiva sure have many girlfriends, so scare to have a facebook

I agree wholely that we can ride on the developer's scheme ie. If anything falls short, we add on. If we find the kind of service provided by the developer's security firm insufficient, we may engage the same firm but with a wider scope of duties. Engaging a different firm may lead to discord among the guards.
However, strictly speaking, if we are not bound by agreement to let the developer run the show, we may engage our own firm as not all provide good service. Need to check Sales and Purchase agreement.
On fencing, Mr. Chow the project manager for Banyan has said it is wire netting called 'Cheney fencing'. Don't really know how secure it is. Can anyone from Desa Coalfields comment?

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Added on August 3, 2012, 2:39 amWhat to do, 3 days ago it was in the news that rakyat spend so many thousand ringgit to buy CCTV cameras. To me, this is not a good deterrance as many crimes have taken place despite being filmed by CCTV cameras. Some robbers just don't care. Go to youtube and you can see many incidences recorded. The sad thing is this: when it has happened and one of your family is already wounded, the pain and agony is so overwhelming that it is almost pointless to bother about arrest anymore! I am referring to those types incurred by parangs and knives. How well can a chopped finger or limb recover? Despite medical care, in most cases it certainly cannot function as normal as before, not to mention the pain one will get for the rest of his/her life from stitched muscles or twisted nerves. I am not trying to frighten anyone here. From my limited circle of friends, I know of the following:
1. My daughter and tenant were pushed by a passing biker who snatched their bags.
2. My friend was chased and chopped twice by a 2ft. Long parang. He lost his car.
3. A saloon lady in SS2 was chopped on her shoulder and required many stitches.
4. A colleague and her husband woke up screaming to be whipped by pistol and bound. After the incidence, she suffered recurring nightmares. She lost faith in her God and started to place brooms at every corner for some Chinese colleagues told and believe that way can protect. But she isn't a Chinese.
5. My current landlord went through the same ordeal. He fled his house after that as his wife became paronoid of anyone at the gate.
6. I saw well dressed robbers forcing open my neighbor's gate and door within a minute or so and then ransacked his home. They kicked his barking toy dog hard and it needed treatment.
7. The same neighbor renovated his home later and installed a hydraulic autogate. The next day as he drove into his porch, a biker boldly rode alongside him and entered his compound to rob him. Again, he was so frightened that he, like all the above cases, gave a scream in such a twisted voice that left me wondering who was screaming. To be honest, my friend's dad too failed to recognise his voice as his screams sounded so strange!
..... I am sure you too have some stories to tell. It is bad and very sad. I hope we can prevent these or at least minimise such occurances in our new BSC. In Bandar Utama, we have largely reduced the no. of robbery by having a good security firm.


This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Aug 3 2012, 02:54 AM

My friends live in desa coalfields and i got the chance to observed their security system, they hired their own guard who patrol 24hrs and they also monitored the entrance front and back 24hrs. They also have the community patrol by all residents by taking turns just to monitor the guards are doing their job. I can tell you i can see the kids are playing safely because I can see they guard round their playground like 3 times in 2 hours. They have very strong community council among themselves that for sure.

I hope he did not mean chained wire fencing, not very secured, or worse still "chicken wire fencing" or "china mali wire fencing"

The key point here is: strong and unite community, with a functional RA.

Agree with everyone. We need a strong community to get things moving. There will be a couple of non-supporters and some freeloaders, but we'll move along.

Join the FB Group and let's get more people in! https://www.facebook.com/groups/388355117898515/

Hi Guys, Can we buyers from areca join the facebook also?? hehehe

Wau, got 16 members already! We need more people to spread the cost or else we cannot afford an effective security service. In Bandar Utama, the no. Of households that contributed the 1st. Year was small. As a result, the kind of service we could get was quite skimpy...kind of like window dressing. As a result, many crimes still happened. Many leaflets were issued for months and then more eventually joined. Today, the last report that I got was that the no. Of crimes for last year was reduced to 2 cases only. The lesson is this: though we don't have any truly effective guard system to refuse unauthorised entry, it still works somehow. Reason: when guards see rough or suspicious looking guys (women alone are exempted) they were questioned and needed to park at the side to have their vehicle no and IC. recorded. Though all these can be fake, somehow it deters.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Aug 7 2012, 12:18 AM

Yes the group is growing, which is great. Good for us to start early so throughout the next 12 months we can get as many people in as possible.

I'm thinking through some ways for us to get all the buyers into the Facebook group.

The design for phase 2 semi-d is nice - modern and sharp looking. However, I feel the design has resulted in smaller space for the back half of the ground floor. Any idea on the price?

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Added on August 7, 2012, 12:34 pmHi affished, no reason for you not to join but I'm not sure how valuable it will be for you. Perhaps you can also take the lead to set up a group for Areca buyers and buyers of nearby developments to co-ordinate security measures.

How everyone can work together is to then have an overall plan for BSC, negotiate for cheaper rates across BSC (perhaps use one security provider).

So yes, please do join us as this wasn't created to keep BSC-ians out, but to get Banyan and Bromelia buyers in

This post has been edited by papadon: Aug 7 2012, 12:34 PM

Henry said Banyan2 semi-d are launching this Saturday at RM868,000. Now if you go, you can get a discount. Compared to the Banyan1 layout, the Banyan2 has more room space, ie. 6 instead of 5 rooms but much smaller hall and dinning. It is more or less like that of a terrace link house hall size. Banyan1 has a much larger hall and dinning. It all depends on what you want.

For me, a semi-d must look different from a normal terrace home, that is, the moment you enter, there is a much airier feel, a larger space to denote some luxury feel. This is important for those who want to upgrade from their terrace link homes. But for some who have a big family, more rooms even if it means a relatively smaller hall, will definitely be good. It saves you lots of money on renovation.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Aug 9 2012, 01:22 AM

Yup saw his e-mail. I personally prefer Banyan 1 layout because it's larger but the Banyan 2 design follows the latest design of modern homes. But it's 250k more! Perhaps because the location is better since it's not facing the main road.

The following was advertised in the STAR newspaper.



This post has been edited by seneador: Aug 10 2012, 11:38 AM

What are the latest designs?

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Added on August 10, 2012, 3:25 amBandar Seri Coalfields is just across the road about 500 meters from Desa Coalfields. It looks like there are quite a no of food restaurants in Desa Coalfields selling chicken rice, mee curry, and Thai styled dishes. These are good for me.
https://foursquare.com/touch/v/ashikin-seaf...efa8cfa0e6448b3

http://jempolschickenricestation.blogspot....ml?spref=fb&m=1

Update info dated 8/3/2015:
There is no more chicken rice shop. There is a Chinese coffee shop at the entrance nearer to BSC named Ong Kee sellling chicken rice, mix rice, curry mee, pan mee and after 3 pm is selling 'siow chow' dishes till 9pm.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Mar 9 2015, 01:54 AM