LYN Official Proton Persona Owners Club and support thread V23!!
PPLYNC
Persona celebrating TWENTY-THREE threads of awesomeness!!
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!
TO ALL FELLOW PPLYNC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE:
If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem.
So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response.
If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said.
You may: 1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise. 2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority.
Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine.
Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car.
This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself.
I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed.
Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum.
Photos From Recent TTs TT 4.0 - Genting Highlands.
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Studio shots of the New Persona Elegance (PE)
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1. wkho555 - LightGold HL 2. CHIP CN - Blueberry Tea ML 3. vivre - Tranquility Black HL 4. Ultima - Irridescent White BL 5. spana - Blueberry Tea ML 6. bobiq - Iri White ML 7. mr_ashraf - metal grey ML 8. billygoatz - Irridescent White BL 9. tartung - Tranquility Black HL 10. badrul_rg - Blueberry Tea HL 11. dzariq - Solid White BL 12. john_jenin - Tranquility Black HL 13. ! Love Money - Irridescent White ML (MT) 14. izaman - Tranquility Black HL 15. zhen^wei - Irridescent White BL (AT) 16. zuying1985 - Irridescent White BL (A) 17. apahal - Tranquility Black ML (M) 18. hwchua - Tranquility Black ML (A) 19. jondevour - Irridescent White HL 20. Boxerawd - LightGold ML (MT) 21. pakleh - HL tranquilty black 22. bluswhitehat - Light Gold - HL 23. spana - Light Gold HL 24. nel - Irridescent White 25. Kappa - Irridescent White ML (MT) 26. andy_resort - Irridescent White BL 27. dukunet - Tranquility Black HL 28. h_aiqa_l - Tranquility Black 29. hornetsjet - Metal Grey BL (MT) 30. malyadayada - Red BL 31. korent - T. Black ML (MT) 32. xordMeztGeR - Bluberry Tea ML 33. amiranna - light Gold (ML) 34. zeronehza - blueberry tea HL 35. wqv_joe: Metal Grey ML 36. danilo5753 - Irr.White H-Line 37. JonSpark - Metal Gray B-Line 38. ZYen - Solid White HL 39. Niv86 - Blueberry Tea HL 40. shapa106 - Metal Grey BL 41. alienLYN - Metal grey BL (MT) 42. cmyap - RED (BL) Auto 43. shihyao - Red BL Auto 44. hulkboy - Metal grey (ML- AT), IAFM unit 45. ignatiuslu - solid white - MT - iafm 46. necromencer - Persona M-line AT, I-White 47. exhausted - HL Auto Blueberry 48. pillar - BL, manual, Irrediscent white 49. remo1502 - Base Line Persona I - White 50. farscope - BL auto 51. ryugan - b/line,Metal grey Manual Tranny 52. nazril1906 - I-white HL auto 53. gaaraofthedesert- black m-line (mt) 54. mfanthony - metal grey-m line AT with IAFM 55. weaflee - Iri White BL (A) 56. loong2020 - ML,auto, Irrediscent white 57. ychwang - Irrediscent white Manual BL 58. figure8 - black - M-Line 59. harith_gtr34 - Blueberry Tea - M-line (AT) 60. magnumrolez - persona SE hazel blue 61. persona68 - Persona Silver H-Line 1.6(A) 62. sebnimh84 - Persona H-Line Blueberry Tea 63. jonilabu - persona I-White (M) B-Line 64. luriazidnaffa - Blue Haze SE 65. Sandking - Black-H.Line 66. amadeo - Solid white M-Line 67. Cool_Knights - Persona SE (Haze Blue) 68. drgnkid - Blue Haze SE 69. seela85 - Persona Metal Grey BS (MT) 70. Heavencloud -Tranquility Black M-Line (MT) 71. krk24 - Persona Genetic Silver (HL) 72. Ravemaster - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 73. mamata - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 74. Martolavesitus - Black M-Line 75. acam - Metal Grey ML (MT) 76. Arasy - Metal Grey BL (MT) 77. ipohmali70 - Persona SE Brilliant Red 78. lhy88 - Tranquility Black M-Line 79. Datuk_Seri - Tranquility Black M-Line 80. cbkhor - Persona M line, Silver 81. sketcher - Metal Grey Persona (MT) 82. KKW - Tranquility Black M-Line Auto 83. 2fast2furious - Persona B-Line (A) Silver colour 84. rckh - Metal Grey ML (AT) 85. Mutt2020 - Persona SE, Brilliant Red 86. eMeRiTuS - Briliant Red SE (AT) 87. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea 88. keeplwk - Tranquility Black ML 89. Exora7118 - Tranquility Black ML 90. xefron - blue haze Persona SE 91. @r3|4^2 - Red BL (MT) 92. yous - Blueberry Tea (ML) 93. Mafarizan - blubery tea 94. Speedy~ - Black ML (AT) 95. afiqn9 - metal grey automatic 96. chteh0721 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 97. NSX_MY - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 98. shacxz - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 99. zhnme523 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 100. fonda82 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 101. persona_r3 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 102. dARKaNGEl - Blue Haze SE (AT) 103. Lord_sepulchrave - Blue Haze SE (AT) 104. naley - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 105. patdidi - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 106. snakesolidus - Tranquility Black HL 107. yhanwong - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 108. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea ML 109. Baozzz - Blueberry Tea ML 110. bryanwong3 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 111. JynoRip - Metal Gray BL 112. yclim11 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 113. panafone - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 114. zepple - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 115. vccy - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 116. flyingteeku - Bronze Garnet BL 117. RookY - Tranquility Black ML 118. muslayer - Metal Gray ML (MT) 119. dadurtyz - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 120. shaff - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 121. isildur88 - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 122. summer9uy - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 123. AlongN9 - Metal Grey ML 124. arfaie - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 125. analogi21 - Chiffone Green ML Elegance 126. drk messenger - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 127. aca1 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 128. roundedfly - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 129. boonykun - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 130. org_kg - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 131. moc. - Blueberry Tea ML (MT) 132. MjMax15 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 133. d3x - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 134. anilin - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 135. crashoverride - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 136. yohannes - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 137. alextrg - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 138. hendra86 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 139. ultraman070 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 140. Beogatts - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 141. ezone85 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 142. victor87 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 143. poobalanc - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 144. wilsonjack228 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 145. jasontantenghuat - Metal Gray BL (AT) 146. lhongwuh - Blueberry Tea ML (AT) 147. khtee - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 148. rex82 - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 149. jackyap84 - Chiffon Green Hl (AT) Elegance 150. chew1188 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 151. onenis - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 152. kfthoo - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 153. cherryha - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 154. zacTera - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 155. yukogura89 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 156. mosh - Brilliant Red Elegance 157. cva_m - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 158. reGedit07 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 159. unknownhammie - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 160. adload - Bronze Garnet (AT) Elegance 161. syakumi - Bronze Garnett ML (MT) Elegance 162. seng12345 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 163. ahshuy - Metal Gray HL (AT) 164. ZenGTMM - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 165. sensei84 - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 166. trinittrotoleune - Solid White HL 167. jhbey - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 168. saddient - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 169. davwon - metal grey BL (AT) 170. savages - Tranquility Black HL Elegance 171. azrko - Irrediscent white B line 172. MR_47 - Bronze Garnet BL Elegance 173. switch_133 - Brilliant Red HL Elegance 174. xandras - Bronze Garnet ML Elegance 175. slater_iz - Metal Grey BL MT 176. AkuWady - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 177. ITmaniac - Genetic Silver ML 178. gm_18300 - Metal Grey ML 179. Janick1437 - BL (MT) 180. fenrir0402 - Bronze Garnet BL MT 181. farcry84 - Genetic Silver HL Elegance 182. antkuchiki - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 183. skacinta08 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 184. ngeo88 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 185. ashangel39 - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 186. forumyen - BL (AT) Elegance 187. magister - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 188. scattygirl - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 189. PaiPitt - Metal Grey BL (MT) 190. saiful_azhar - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 191. cho_petpet - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 192. little little - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 193. forbidden84 - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 194. samwongjyhhorng - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 195. K.Lee - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 196. aziz79 - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 197. Putera_Stephen - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 198. zapdos9 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 199. izzizahari - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 200. eanson - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 201. manejist - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 202. speedrider - Broze Garnet (AT) Elegance 203. shinjo - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 204. kintsuchi - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 205. pupumaru - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 206. PGS - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 207. phythia79 - Genetic Silver ML Elegance 208. RViN - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 209. onijoseph - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 210. MovingMachine - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 211. petit - Tranquility Black (AT) Elegance 212. panda*Pan - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 213. din_kaixa - Metal Grey BL (MT) 214. cajun2de - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 215. selangorclay - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 216. lkc185 - Metal Grey BL (AT) 217. oldskool AE - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 218. potionmaster1987 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 219. wei_hoong - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 220. ychoong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 221. IsapIsap - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 222. rhoma - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 223. ckdenion - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 224. wan arif - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 225. deepan84 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 226. bryan_oel - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 227. jasontantenghuat - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 228. sportivo55 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 229. monodevil - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 230. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 231. azeotrope - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 232. dorinyeah - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 233. Cavino - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 234. phatzlan - Tranquility Black (AT) 235. ResQ - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 236. sairento - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 237. Dav6534 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 238. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 239. kokleong75 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 240. qeem - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 241. jasonloh7906 - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 242. tarm - Chiffon Green HL (AT) Elegance 243. nevergonewrong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 244. panje001 - Pearl White ML (AT) Elegance 245. weeyi00 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 246. luenywoon - Pearl White ML (MT) Elegance 247. alvizz - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 248. dzie25 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 249. redjinx - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 250. haur- Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 251. kogula14 - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 252. swixx - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 253. kiatsim86 - Bronze Garnet ML(MT) Elegance 254. raimy_m9 - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 255. apambalikla - Bronze Garnet BL (MT/AT?) Elegance
255Members and Growing!!! Mega TT will be fun if all 255 Members show up!!
For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome toPPLYNC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update you name into the list.
Car Service & Preventive Maintenance Schedule and Pricing
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2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place. Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE), Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia Tel: 03-80269333 Tel2: 03-80269167 Fax: 03-80269155 HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube
3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube.
4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.)
Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!)
1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. at genting klang n gombak - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol 2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753
Member's Review:
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QUOTE(Nievk8701 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:07 PM)
Dear all, Taman Mayang Service Center really teruk. i ald read in the 1st page post but tot it is the nearest to my house n jus 1000km service,only change oil, so i when there.
i pass the key to one mechanic, a fat guy, when he reverse he step hard on the throttle and enter to D gear when my car stil moving backward.Then rev like no body business n din slow down when drive my car to the jacking machine. ok fine.
then when jacking up my car,can c the arm of the jack machine is less than 1cm from the skirting, i told him to adjust properly he slumber say its ok. then when my car was about 1.5 meter above the arm slip n hit my right skirt, i then shout on at him... the supervisor a lady come out take a look n say its ok, come bck new week, i will spray the paint for u for free. i ald sibeh TL. my car stil less than one week. ok fine.
after finish service, the same machenic fat guy, take my car for test drive, again nvr slow down, becoz the floor is slightly senget, this time my front bumper hit the floor, he jus buat tak tau n drive one round. his work ethic reli bad.
when service, before the oil finish dripping he ald close the nut, then i told him to remove n let it drip for few more minutes.
pls avoid this SC at all cost. wat can i get from them as compensation arr?
QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 11 2011, 10:52 AM)
Yo Xan,
Pls add my customer review for Senaxis. I have already complain to i-care but i tink thr is no action to be taken from them as i had to call thm numerous times to gt a reply from them. So i tink it is better to let all our proud PE owner to know n avoid the place at ALL cost as it would bring them a lot of heartache whn their new PE is serviced by great 'professional' at that place.
The issues that i had to face until i change a diff place.
a. On the first day of obtaining the car from Atiara, there was an issue with the left hand side door window. Water was able to leak in from contact point between the rubber and window. It seems that the run channel rubber is faulty. The item was not changed, what the service center personnel did was just to apply a whitish liquid to recondition the rubber and put it back in place. After going back there for more than 3times and complaining on the same problem only were they satisfied to replace the run channel rubber for me. In addition to all this, I was charged RM3.50 for processing fee. So much inconvenience caused and I am still charged a processing fee? What kind of service is this?
b. After 2 to 3 weeks of driving, I found that there was a knocking sound coming from my front right hand side. The knocking sound only appears when cornering on uneven ground. It was very prominent when driving up and down of Carrefour multi level parking. I complaint at Senaxis about this issue. They tried a few times to identify the problem but was not able to detect it. Therefore, I did some checking of my own. I found out from the internet and some friends that there was some issue with the previous design of the power steering fluid delivery unit. When i inform Senaxis about this, the answer from them was that my unit was the latest design and the issue was not from there. In addition, the mechanic there was telling me that this was the infamous Carrefour sound and there was no remedies for it at the moment even after I highlighted that it was from the power steering fluid delivery unit. Finally, i got it fixed when I send my car to CoSE. There was no questions asked and the power steering fluid delivery unit was changed as it was a known issue (when I asked the person attending to my car)
c. After 2 months of driving, I was faced with another issue. There was a high pitch screeching sound coming from the fan belt auto tensioner. After sending it to Senaxis, the mechanic informed me that it was normal for the sound to appear and that we (the drivers) are to concern as we do not know that this sound has no effect on the car what-so-ever and that we are just paranoid as the car is still new. The mechanics there just took out the unit and sand paper the part and told me that it is very dirty due to high silicone compound in the belt. After that, they told me that the issue has been resolved. Upon reaching home from the service center, the sound returned again. I went back there again (27th May 2011) after approximately a week plus. They did the same thing again. (Sand paper the part). The sound was still there after the unit was placed back with an addition of a knocking sound. They told me to return again another day to service the unit. I was forced to return to them again. This was on 31st May 2011. What they did was the same thing again – sand paper the part to “clean the dust”. When asked why isn’t the unit replace as it has been time and time again having the same issue, they informed me that it was not under proton to replace the part. The car is brand new, less than 9000km. The 3rd service has not been done yet. Why is it not faulty if it is having the similar issue even after it has been serviced? In addition, the mechanic told me that it was the best that they are able to do. There is nothing else that can be done. (I need to live with this defect?) What kind of efficient service is this?
d. service personnel are not professional in performing their tasks as they do not look into the proper manner to jack up a car. In two occasions, my side skirt were pressed in between the car jack and the car’s body. I am unsure whether there is any internal damage caused to the clips as it is not visible.
This is d same email i sent to i-care as a complain. So guys and gals pls b a gud Samaritan n blacklist tis place.
QUOTE(owenteoh @ Jul 15 2011, 09:26 AM)
WTF wei... I made an official complain to proton i-care about Senaxis then the boss from Senaxis (Ruby) call n *** kau me. Whr gt customer service like tat one? Is this d kind of standard of customer service that proton is promoting lor? Better b wary for those who plans to go to Senaxis. F*** area whn comes in terms of customer service.
QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Jul 15 2011, 11:10 AM)
WTH, what kind of customer service is that. Btw, why did I-care gave Senaxis your details. Actually, I went to Senaxis once last month to complaint about the door rattling and check my front bumper. Got one skinny mechanic wearing black shirt dark skin very lazy and kinda dirty. Hand,shirt all black and touch my car.Never cover my seat but cincai cover the floor mat with news paper. I test drive with him to let him hear where the sound is coming from. He was like enjoying the ride rather than listening to my complaint. Then he go test drive my car. He put reverse got loud KERRRR sound. When he got back, he told the sound was normal. I said where got normal, he go put grease on the rubber.ZZZ and for the bitument layer gap,he said looks normal to me. Haiz, this kind of attitude,no use asking too much. If normal, I won't be wasting my time coming. Sorry for the long story. Just sharing my experience.
Common Problem in Persona
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Problem 1: Knocking sound when cornering on uneven surface coming from Front RHS Causes: This is due to the power steering fluid delivery piping knocking against the metal pipe and the body underneath it as the uneven road causes it to twitch up and down. OLD Pipe (left) vs New Pipe (right) [attachmentid=1911676][attachmentid=1911677]
Solution: Proceed to Proton SC to claim warranty for Power Steering fluid assembly. Claims are FOC, including the power steering fluid. Parts list they will change for this new power steering assembly. 1)Tube B - PW828913N 2)Tube A - PW828914N 3)Hose Return - PW828915N 4)Rubber Hose - PW820961 5)Clip Pressure - PW820962 6)Orifice Valve - PW895228
Problem 2: Radio hangs/not responsive while driving and no buttons seems to response to press. Causes: The RDS function is scanning for a clearer frequency. Due to different frequency for the same radio station overlapping certain areas while driving, this causes the radio to re-tune the station. Solution: Turn off the RDS function loh. Go read the manual on how to do it.
Problem 3: Klock klock sound coming from the rear seat. (Not applicable for B-Line ) Causes: The foldable rear seat hook has a bit of free play. Solution: Wrap some thick cushion type double sided tape to the hook.
Tips for Persona Users (To be Updated)
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1)Most SC uses Petronas engine oil. To use other engine oil, exp Shell Helix HX-7, its recommended to go to authorized service outlets instead. 2)Stock brake pads are softer than Sponge Bob. Recommendation is to change it to ceramic brakes. Better performance and lesser dust. Best Form Ceramic Nao cost just RM63 for a set of front pads. Can get from forummer Kelvin (if im not mistaken).
Tires Most silent = Primacy LC, slightly poor grip on wet roads (a tradeoff for less noise). Dry Grip High Performance = Bridgestone Potenza RE001, Toyo T1R (A wee bit noisier than RE001) Wet Grip High Performance = Yokohama S-Drive, Pirelli P Zero (Rare)
Help to calculate FC Register at http://www.fuelly.com/ and post it in ur siggy. Maybe in the next Version of the thread we can reserve the 2nd post for FC monitoring by forumers.. Or another ideal way to calculate is to 1) Fill full tank petrol and reset trip meter 2) Drive car like mad fella or slow like aunty.. 3) When u need to refill the tank (no matter is only used half tank only or use till no more petrol in tank), top it back up to full tank (remember to note down how many litres filled in, using the price instead is subjective as petrol price fluctuates up and down and may affect future comparison). 4) Jot down mileage from previous full tank till refill and reset trip meter again. 5) Calculate (FC= Total mileage/Litres filled to top up back to full tank). 6) Post it up onto our club here for comparison. State ( XX% city driving / YY%highway) in XX KM/L format..
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with the above stated threads promoting their products nor I have any experience using the product unless otherwise stated..
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 24 2011, 07:52 PM
Zzz... Hi there.. U're very the welcomed.. This is Persona club.. not PE club.. So we welcome all members regardless of what version of Persona they're driving.. Dog bite shattered rear windscreen iswara. Today just found out my Iswara cermin belakang broke. Under heavy rain samore.
well thank you..ive been here for like a few threads before..haaha..
U never post much mah.. Thats why I also didnt realise.. Samore nowadays I'm working d, no chance to open thread at workplace with laptop/PC.. Then balik rumah forget d.
Anyway, wanna join us to the TT? U're the most welcomed...
U never post much mah.. Thats why I also didnt realise.. Samore nowadays I'm working d, no chance to open thread at workplace with laptop/PC.. Then balik rumah forget d.
Anyway, wanna join us to the TT? U're the most welcomed...
well, like i replied before..i might be there for gathering..but to go to genting, i dont think i can..
wait..its 8pm right? not 8 am?...i think i will go..but for the gathering only..not to genting..im in budget now due to hari raya...need to save up more this time for me to enjoy at the end of this month..wanna tint my car....
ps: sommore..i've never been to genting all my life..i prefer to stay at home whenever i have time and go back balik kampung if have long holidays..
This post has been edited by raimy_m9: Sep 11 2011, 12:06 PM
wait..its 8pm right? not 8 am?...i think i will go..but for the gathering only..not to genting..im in budget now due to hari raya...need to save up more this time for me to enjoy at the end of this month..wanna tint my car....
ps: sommore..i've never been to genting all my life..i prefer to stay at home whenever i have time and go back balik kampung if have long holidays..
Since u never went b4, just tumpang one of the cars lah. Can jalan jalan there. Going in casino is optional. There will be a Cinderella that have to go back b4 12 am. So, can tumpang back.
Since u never went b4, just tumpang one of the cars lah. Can jalan jalan there. Going in casino is optional. There will be a Cinderella that have to go back b4 12 am. So, can tumpang back.
u means me but i'm not sure lo..bcoz i'm not interested to gamble at casino..if everybody all go to gamble,then leave me one people onli,wat i should do oh?
wait..its 8pm right? not 8 am?...i think i will go..but for the gathering only..not to genting..im in budget now due to hari raya...need to save up more this time for me to enjoy at the end of this month..wanna tint my car....
ps: sommore..i've never been to genting all my life..i prefer to stay at home whenever i have time and go back balik kampung if have long holidays..
8 PM lah.. 8AM meet up so early for wat.. =.= Just join us to genting.. No need to drive, sit in one of our member's car..
QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 11 2011, 12:12 PM)
hmmm
Yes bro hammie? Hand itchy again har?
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 11 2011, 12:16 PM)
Since u never went b4, just tumpang one of the cars lah. Can jalan jalan there. Going in casino is optional. There will be a Cinderella that have to go back b4 12 am. So, can tumpang back.
Cinderella
He did mentioned about raya.. So I think he's a muslim..
u means me but i'm not sure lo..bcoz i'm not interested to gamble at casino..if everybody all go to gamble,then leave me one people onli,wat i should do oh?
Never mind lah. Got raimy to keep u company.
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 12:19 PM)
8 PM lah.. 8AM meet up so early for wat.. =.= Just join us to genting.. No need to drive, sit in one of our member's car.. Yes bro hammie? Hand itchy again har? Cinderella
He did mentioned about raya.. So I think he's a muslim..
I know already lah. At least Sam can keep him company too.
u means me but i'm not sure lo..bcoz i'm not interested to gamble at casino..if everybody all go to gamble,then leave me one people onli,wat i should do oh?
Look see look see la.. No gamble also can see rite? Or u can always go 'call chicken' when we go play... Or if u'd like, get another non gambler member then u 2 go swordfight somewhere lah..
so finally how much all three of u won?how much u all bring to genting for gamble everyone bring RM1k?
Where's your battle report, Xan?
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 12:25 PM)
Look see look see la.. No gamble also can see rite? Or u can always go 'call chicken' when we go play... Or if u'd like, get another non gambler member then u 2 go swordfight somewhere lah..
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Look see look see la.. No gamble also can see rite? Or u can always go 'call chicken' when we go play... Or if u'd like, get another non gambler member then u 2 go swordfight somewhere lah..
maybe i will juz look n see lo..then gain the point of world card lo..hehe..c how 1st lo..if got extra money,then juz play Rm25 per round lo..if no money,then juz c lo..
so finally how much all three of u won?how much u all bring to genting for gamble everyone bring RM1k?
I brought RM 200 nia.. Then lose till left RM 50.. from RM 50 climb back up to RM 1.6k.. Then hand itchy, final bet go hantam RM 500 before change dealer.. Manatau lose.. Aiyah call it a day lah, already got RM 1.1k..
We all bring max RM 200 nia.. hammie brought RM 50.. Zeng won around RM 750 if I'm not mistaken..
maybe i will juz look n see lo..then gain the point of world card lo..hehe..c how 1st lo..if got extra money,then juz play Rm25 per round lo..if no money,then juz c lo..
I brought RM 200 nia.. Then lose till left RM 50.. from RM 50 climb back up to RM 1.6k.. Then hand itchy, final bet go hantam RM 500 before change dealer.. Manatau lose.. Aiyah call it a day lah, already got RM 1.1k..
We all bring max RM 200 nia.. hammie brought RM 50.. Zeng won around RM 750 if I'm not mistaken..
how much u play per round?then i juz bring money and follow wat u bet..win is extra money,lose juz anggap no luck lo..hammie only brought RM50,he play RM25 per round at starting?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 05:29 AM)
Genting slots got dispense coins wan meh?
By the way.. Got a not-so-but-quite-hot BR here.. Along with some sightings..
Went up to Genting at 1 AM just now. Was a last minute plan, friend's gf itchy wanna play the last RM 50 chip that she won from genting the last time we went but didnt cash out. So we did went.
On the way up, it was as if Uncle Lim is not encouraging me to go. All the way up very very misty, visibility near zero. Relying only on reflectors n road lines to drive, cant see a thing. But eventually we managed to reach safely, although the journey took slightly longer at around an hour from toll to hilltop.
So, into casino we went! I banked out RM 200, decided that this will be my only capital (didnt bring money cos it was last minute plan, so had to bank out since I'm having my ATM card with me). Walked into Monte Carlo with my bunch of friends, saw a 3 Pictures table. Ok lah, decided to play.
1st Table (3 Pic):
$$ at point of settling down: RM 200. Best: + 50. Worst: - 250 (pinjam 50 chip from my friend to gain back capital). $$ at point of leaving: RM 50.
So keep yoyo lah, naik turun naik turun. Never once gained more than RM 50 excluding capital. My friend also same. Lost RM 150 at that table, then win back RM 150. So he neutral. Then play halfway suddenly the dealer at the table opposite us started crying. It was quite a scene. The dealer (girl) sat in a frozen position with her two hands reached out. Looks like kena possessed to me, but I wouldn't like to guess such things. An indian dealer was then speaking to my friend (in tamil, my friend is an indian) and said that the girl wasnt feeling well, and then suddenly froze/seized. I took that as a cue to leave the table, and so I did.
Walked out to the area in front of the cashier, was feeling quite down cos lost RM 150. Still left with RM 50 cos used my friend's chip to gain back capital just now. Then walked around, saw a baccarat table with quite a crowd. So cincai bet on banker lah. Won wor, + RM50. Then thought maybe can go on lah, then see the board, aiyah follow the crowd la. All betting banker. Then hantam RM 50. Lost. Then left with RM 50 again.
2nd Table (Baccarat):
$$ at point of settling down: RM 50. Best: +50 Worst: -50 $$ at point of leaving: RM 50.
Then I was thinking bout cashing out & leaving the casino d. At least with RM 50 I can still have a good lunch & dinner tomorrow. Then went look for my other friend & his gf. They were standing at this 3 Picture table near the Cashier. And my friend's GF was telling me how the banker's luck was damn good etc etc. So ok loh, sai lang lah. Since got RM 50. My friend also tap my bet & play. Here is where it gets interesting.
3rd Table (3 Picture):
$$ at point of settling down: RM 50. Best: +1600. Worst: +300. $$ at point of leaving: RM 1100.
So I sat down. Was expecting myself to lose the 1st round & go home empty handed. I didn't. Won RM 50. Then go on with another RM 50 bet. Won again. Go on again with another RM 50, won again. Then double it up to RM 100. Won again. I won at the pettiest of score, even with a 2 also Banker can get 0. At one point I decided to bet RM 300. Then lost. Then I started betting RM 100 by RM 100 again. I even got 3 picture once, but didnt bet on 3 Pics.. Then went up to RM 1600, was thinking: Ahh screw it lah, RM 500 final bet. If win then go back with RM 2k. If lose then go back with RM 1100. Lost the last round. Chow lah what else. The uncle sitting beside me was looking at me one kind d. From RM 50 climb until RM 1k ++.
Drillz:
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Total return = RM 1100 - RM 200 = RM 900. Percentage return = 9/2 x 100 = 450%. Total time spent in Casino De Genting = 1 hour 45 mins.
HUAT ARHHHHH!!!!
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 11 2011, 12:26 PM)
Where's your battle report, Xan?
As above. I'm sure u've read it somewhere already
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 12:27 PM)
maybe i will juz look n see lo..then gain the point of world card lo..hehe..c how 1st lo..if got extra money,then juz play Rm25 per round lo..if no money,then juz c lo..
RM 25 per round? U wanna tap ppl's bet also cannot lo.. Especially during public holiday where they raise the minimum bet to RM 100 per bet.. must bet at least 50%..
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 12:33 PM)
how much u play per round?then i juz bring money and follow wat u bet..win is extra money,lose juz anggap no luck lo..hammie only brought RM50,he play RM25 per round at starting?
Read my BR to get the rough idea la.. Even hammie brought RM 50 also let the gf sekali hantam RM 50..
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As above. I'm sure u've read it somewhere already RM 25 per round? U wanna tap ppl's bet also cannot lo.. Especially during public holiday where they raise the minimum bet to RM 100 per bet.. must bet at least 50%..
so u start bet from RM50?
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QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 12:34 PM)
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As above. I'm sure u've read it somewhere already RM 25 per round? U wanna tap ppl's bet also cannot lo.. Especially during public holiday where they raise the minimum bet to RM 100 per bet.. must bet at least 50%..
Added on September 11, 2011, 12:35 pm Read my BR to get the rough idea la.. Even hammie brought RM 50 also let the gf sekali hantam RM 50..
nvm la..c how 1st..if i wan play,i juz follow u to bet lo..bcoz i dunno gambling wan
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 11 2011, 12:36 PM
Price seems to be a bit on the high side.. But then have to wait for a while and see the specs lah.. Shd be around the same as the Myvi Lagi Best.. pay 3k more can get PE H Line.. Yeah.. They should introduce hybrids into the market and very low prices.. Like that then ppl can really save petrol.. and the gomen no need to subsidise so much.. I think it can outrun the PE lah.. 1.5 with around the same weight and DVVT.. they should outrun us.. Y enter Ops Sikap the back fella enter Ondscene.. Yeah of course.. haha.. Please do come.. .So u confirm attending?? COming to Genting also? we update u into the list.. No more iswara loh.. Just came back from genting with xan and hammie.. All win money..... haha.. Nope me 1Malaysia all inside.. haha.. Fark lah.. i lost the last 3 rounds straight.. 450 gone down the drain.. if not could have won more than 1k ady.. T.T.. Genting super last minute Mini TT... Xan the biggest winner and the biggest loser as well.. haha.. Yay next week go genting we all have bullets ady.. haha..
myvi had always been on the high price side. actually i dont really like hybrid in someways. it dont really save when ppl like to speed. try diesel. hahahaha~~the torque... myvi 1.3 also can try to run with us. 1.5 will be much easier.
myvi had always been on the high price side. actually i dont really like hybrid in someways. it dont really save when ppl like to speed. try diesel. hahahaha~~the torque... myvi 1.3 also can try to run with us. 1.5 will be much easier.
Malaysia diesel quality lauya lah.. But maybe, just maybe after Caltex release their biodiesel then we can consider diesel cars..
Ppl see my total win nia.. Never see my downfalls..
Added on September 11, 2011, 1:27 pmBtw guys.. Must drive safe up genting.. Yesterday it was VERY misty with near zero visibility, and we saw a Myvi spinout on the way up.. Saw quite a lot of accidents yesterday.. on MRR2 saw a Kelisa spin out and hit divider at the corner to Bandar Tasik Selatan.. Then OTW to genting saw this Kia Spectra (or Sephia) crash at Karak highway.. From the damages it's very likely the car 'flew' down from the opposite direction of the highway.. And on the way down saw a Mitsubishi Storm got stuck on the metal railing/divider..
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 11 2011, 01:28 PM
Ppl see my total win nia.. Never see my downfalls..
Added on September 11, 2011, 1:27 pmBtw guys.. Must drive safe up genting.. Yesterday it was VERY misty with near zero visibility, and we saw a Myvi spinout on the way up.. Saw quite a lot of accidents yesterday.. on MRR2 saw a Kelisa spin out and hit divider at the corner to Bandar Tasik Selatan.. Then OTW to genting saw this Kia Spectra (or Sephia) crash at Karak highway.. From the damages it's very likely the car 'flew' down from the opposite direction of the highway.. And on the way down saw a Mitsubishi Storm got stuck on the metal railing/divider..
Ppl see my total win nia.. Never see my downfalls..
Added on September 11, 2011, 1:27 pmBtw guys.. Must drive safe up genting.. Yesterday it was VERY misty with near zero visibility, and we saw a Myvi spinout on the way up.. Saw quite a lot of accidents yesterday.. on MRR2 saw a Kelisa spin out and hit divider at the corner to Bandar Tasik Selatan.. Then OTW to genting saw this Kia Spectra (or Sephia) crash at Karak highway.. From the damages it's very likely the car 'flew' down from the opposite direction of the highway.. And on the way down saw a Mitsubishi Storm got stuck on the metal railing/divider..
Totally agree about the road to Genting. Yesterday morning was raining continuously. Even on Karak highway, the visiblity was reduce. Want to tekan the pedal also cannot be quicker because too much water on the road.
Totally agree about the road to Genting. Yesterday morning was raining continuously. Even on Karak highway, the visiblity was reduce. Want to tekan the pedal also cannot be quicker because too much water on the road.
As u know the in the hill area, when the weather is cold and wet sure there are lots of fog one. So, have to drive slowly and on the lights. Some people overestimated some of the corners and bumps and miscontrol their car.
As u know the in the hill area, when the weather is cold and wet sure there are lots of fog one. So, have to drive slowly and on the lights. Some people overestimated some of the corners and bumps and miscontrol their car.
Samore we went after a heavy rain.. But it was damn nice up there.. At least it's worth the name 'Highland' for once..
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 01:43 PM)
so u juz drive ur persona on 16 sep lah more the car then juz fun lol
Not driving lah.. That PE not yet service.. Already close to 10k KMs.. & from monday to next thursday I'll be working no time to service yet.. Furthermore if u ask Zeng & hammie they'll tell u how bad the PE's tyre thread condition is.. Need to rotate the tyres d..
Added on September 11, 2011, 1:27 pmBtw guys.. Must drive safe up genting.. Yesterday it was VERY misty with near zero visibility, and we saw a Myvi spinout on the way up.. Saw quite a lot of accidents yesterday.. on MRR2 saw a Kelisa spin out and hit divider at the corner to Bandar Tasik Selatan.. Then OTW to genting saw this Kia Spectra (or Sephia) crash at Karak highway.. From the damages it's very likely the car 'flew' down from the opposite direction of the highway.. And on the way down saw a Mitsubishi Storm got stuck on the metal railing/divider..
Yup. yesterday at Genting is very dangerous especially when heavy rain start puring around 4.30.
Around 5pm+, my friend in front of me also spin at genting yesterday. Then when near kaki bukit, another Waja spin at opposite direction.
I rolled down Genting straight after the rain stopped.
Visibility is around 10-15m at peak. After the temple hairpin, it gets way better but road is slippery.
got one time i drove myvi to downhill aroudn 4am,and its raining..i'm race wit another fren myvi when downhill..i oso spin when i whack the corner..luckily still can control bec..after tat oso keep whack corner until karak highway lo
got one time i drove myvi to downhill aroudn 4am,and its raining..i'm race wit another fren myvi when downhill..i oso spin when i whack the corner..luckily still can control bec..after tat oso keep whack corner until karak highway lo
got one time i drove myvi to downhill aroudn 4am,and its raining..i'm race wit another fren myvi when downhill..i oso spin when i whack the corner..luckily still can control bec..after tat oso keep whack corner until karak highway lo
Myvi also u go whack corner ka? I used to be a myvi kaki n i can tell u no matter what mod u do also the handling still suxxo.
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2011, 02:00 PM)
spin is still ok.
dont kena extreme understeer only.
I nearly kena also yesterday when climbing up.
Extreme understeer usually happen when ur tyre no thread/road damn wet.. My car also understeered a bit last nite.. but it was the sliding-while-braking type of understeer..
Myvi also u go whack corner ka? I used to be a myvi kaki n i can tell u no matter what mod u do also the handling still suxxo. Extreme understeer usually happen when ur tyre no thread/road damn wet.. My car also understeered a bit last nite.. but it was the sliding-while-braking type of understeer..
Nice.. Btw have u checked the service intervals/pricing for ur car? If I'm not mistaken CVT service cost a bit more rite?
don't know. The service interval proton till now also dint reply me yet. WHen first service I want straight go Shah Alam to clarify everything already. Currently clocking around 34x km.
QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Sep 11 2011, 02:10 PM)
petrol jimat ma?? 110 km/h... the rpm is how much?? ada power (KIT) ma?
some member at saga thread records 100km/h @ 2400 rpm.
mine, slightly above 2,500rpm because I have a lead foot.
All I can say is, it is good for highway, acceptable for city drive and horrible for touge.
don't know. The service interval proton till now also dint reply me yet. WHen first service I want straight go Shah Alam to clarify everything already. Currently clocking around 34x km. some member at saga thread records 100km/h @ 2400 rpm.
mine, slightly above 2,500rpm because I have a lead foot.
All I can say is, it is good for highway, acceptable for city drive and horrible for touge.
CVT & touge doesnt go along well lah.. For me if wan an enjoyable drive, manual is always the way to go.. 2.4k RPM at 100 KM/h not bad ah..
U wan me to postpone the entire TT with 16 members attending to next wednesday? The TT this Friday we going genting bro. Public holiday. I know bout the SAT mode.. It's just that I prefer manual, cos the clutch & gearstick is there.. It makes u feel like u're part of the car..
my bad..... sorry its thursday and fri,.. what time TT on friday ?
got one time i drove myvi to downhill aroudn 4am,and its raining..i'm race wit another fren myvi when downhill..i oso spin when i whack the corner..luckily still can control bec..after tat oso keep whack corner until karak highway lo
Bro Sam, last time u not married. Now, u have married then don't push ur luck.
QUOTE(saddient @ Sep 11 2011, 02:18 PM)
make it on next wed or thursday ? apa macam ?
Can if you bring the girl in your avatar.
This post has been edited by Fubar20: Sep 11 2011, 02:27 PM
no rogol la.....haha... how ur city driving .. like normal cruising. i saw the video from paultan.. like no power de
that paultan when test that car pijak so much throttle, thats why rpm jump very high.
Furthermore, a lot people thinks that high rpm is co-related with high speed due to the nature of conventional auto/manual transmission cars, but that's not the case for CVT.
SAT is simulate to 6 gear lo..its helping to improve pick up?ya,u come join us TT la..v r interested to knw power of saga CVT..maybe u can tapau all of us oh
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2011, 02:44 PM)
that paultan when test that car pijak so much throttle, thats why rpm jump very high.
Furthermore, a lot people thinks that high rpm is co-related with high speed due to the nature of conventional auto/manual transmission cars, but that's not the case for CVT. dun wan up genting can ah? lol
a bit lazy. =\
so u can come join us at paparich wangsa maju on 8pm 16/9
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 11 2011, 02:45 PM
that paultan when test that car pijak so much throttle, thats why rpm jump very high.
Furthermore, a lot people thinks that high rpm is co-related with high speed due to the nature of conventional auto/manual transmission cars, but that's not the case for CVT. dun wan up genting can ah? lol
a bit lazy. =\
Can.. But we're not hanging around for long.. Cos the main event is Genting..
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 11 2011, 02:51 PM
SAT is simulate to 6 gear lo..its helping to improve pick up?ya,u come join us TT la..v r interested to knw power of saga CVT..maybe u can tapau all of us oh
on straits, not much effect. Just to make ur eyes to "lie" to your brain indicating that your car is building up speed at low rpm. But on hills, the SAT will just stay on high rpm, which is useful in order to achieve peak torque.
cant tapau la. You guys punya persona also has more power and coupled with the AT gearbox which loves to drop gear whenever the throttle was nailed, dont think can smoke. haha
on straits, not much effect. Just to make ur eyes to "lie" to your brain indicating that your car is building up speed at low rpm. But on hills, the SAT will just stay on high rpm, which is useful in order to achieve peak torque.
cant tapau la. You guys punya persona also has more power and coupled with the AT gearbox which loves to drop gear whenever the throttle was nailed, dont think can smoke. haha
v din plan race to uphill la..v juz wanna drive at normal speed and convoy 2gether lo..
on straits, not much effect. Just to make ur eyes to "lie" to your brain indicating that your car is building up speed at low rpm. But on hills, the SAT will just stay on high rpm, which is useful in order to achieve peak torque.
cant tapau la. You guys punya persona also has more power and coupled with the AT gearbox which loves to drop gear whenever the throttle was nailed, dont think can smoke. haha
The AT gearbox in persona suffers from heavy transmission lost, the heaviest I've seen in any auto cars to date. Torque wise it's fine. AT Persona makes around 110 HP on crank, but only down to 75 on wheel. That's about 30+% transmission loss. As a benchmark to compare with, the manual Persona makes around ~90 plus WHP, can't remember the exact figure but it's around there.
ya,drive below 100kmh at highway..then uphill juz drive safe and slow..i will be lead car..any objection
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QUOTE(saddient @ Sep 11 2011, 02:58 PM)
his car teh most powderful wan lorrrr
Added on September 11, 2011, 2:58 pm
im arranging my schedule.. tell ya soon
my car is most slow wan lo
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QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
The AT gearbox in persona suffers from heavy transmission lost, the heaviest I've seen in any auto cars to date. Torque wise it's fine. AT Persona makes around 110 HP on crank, but only down to 75 on wheel. That's about 30+% transmission loss. As a benchmark to compare with, the manual Persona makes around ~90 plus WHP, can't remember the exact figure but it's around there.
yup,tats why saga CVT can easily tapau persona AT..somemore handling of saga oso good,rite?
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 11 2011, 03:02 PM
ya,drive below 100kmh at highway..then uphill juz drive safe and slow..i will be lead car..any objection
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my car is most slow wan lo
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yup,tats why saga CVT can easily tapau persona AT..somemore handling of saga oso good,rite?
nope.. i dont think saga handling better then persona.... test driven my bro's flx .... pickup.. yes.. the new saga pickup is bettter then persona AT.... but handling..... i can feel more body roll ....
v din plan race to uphill la..v juz wanna drive at normal speed and convoy 2gether lo..
afterward like those BLM Club members, first say convoy then when reach kaki bukit, sumua jadi hantu. lol
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
The AT gearbox in persona suffers from heavy transmission lost, the heaviest I've seen in any auto cars to date. Torque wise it's fine. AT Persona makes around 110 HP on crank, but only down to 75 on wheel. That's about 30+% transmission loss. As a benchmark to compare with, the manual Persona makes around ~90 plus WHP, can't remember the exact figure but it's around there.
that bad eeh.
I'll meet you guys at sri rampai. But I wont be going to genting with you guys, sorry eh. Mind if I bring another BLM along?
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QUOTE(khtee @ Sep 11 2011, 03:17 PM)
nope.. i dont think saga handling better then persona.... test driven my bro's flx .... pickup.. yes.. the new saga pickup is bettter then persona AT.... but handling..... i can feel more body roll ....
beam suspension can never be more superior than multilink suspension.
This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Sep 11 2011, 03:21 PM
tats wat u edit is all based tat u think lo..i have no comment :maybe u r most fastest lo..bcoz wat u edit maybe means tat u wan to do lo..nw i'm married and i'm drive safe ady..dun wan gg so fast lo
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QUOTE(khtee @ Sep 11 2011, 03:17 PM)
nope.. i dont think saga handling better then persona.... test driven my bro's flx .... pickup.. yes.. the new saga pickup is bettter then persona AT.... but handling..... i can feel more body roll ....
yup,saga pick up more better than persona..my wife previous saga blm auto 2008 oso win persona in pick up..nw i'm enjoy drive my wife swift..the power was smooth but not consider power lah..and the handling oso good lo..most important is the engine noise very quiet...
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 11 2011, 03:37 PM
tats wat u edit is all based tat u think lo..i have no comment :maybe u r most fastest lo..bcoz wat u edit maybe means tat u wan to do lo..nw i'm married and i'm drive safe ady..dun wan gg so fast lo
Added on September 11, 2011, 3:33 pm
yup,saga pick up more better than persona..my wife previous saga blm auto 2008 oso win persona in pick up..nw i'm enjoy drive my wife swift..the power was smooth but not consider power lah..and the handling oso good lo..most important is the engine noise very quiet...
saga blm is 1.3?? i think because of the weight also lah. but i dunno all my friend complain the fc very high in their blm. somemore high speed a bit floating. swift got a nice quiet engine i think quite normal for a japanese car. its a nice car. but a bit pricey in my opinion.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
The AT gearbox in persona suffers from heavy transmission lost, the heaviest I've seen in any auto cars to date. Torque wise it's fine. AT Persona makes around 110 HP on crank, but only down to 75 on wheel. That's about 30+% transmission loss. As a benchmark to compare with, the manual Persona makes around ~90 plus WHP, can't remember the exact figure but it's around there.
loss so much?? hmm....how nice if persona is equipped with DSG XD perfect. actually considered very nice with the loss of power so much can achieved so nice of fc.
This post has been edited by jasonloh7906: Sep 11 2011, 03:50 PM
u means me but i'm not sure lo..bcoz i'm not interested to gamble at casino..if everybody all go to gamble,then leave me one people onli,wat i should do oh?
Everybody go gamble u go first world kiu kai lah.. LOL..
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 12:24 PM)
so finally how much all three of u won?how much u all bring to genting for gamble everyone bring RM1k?
1k so much sure win 5k come back loh.. I brought 200 only..
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 12:34 PM)
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As above. I'm sure u've read it somewhere already RM 25 per round? U wanna tap ppl's bet also cannot lo.. Especially during public holiday where they raise the minimum bet to RM 100 per bet.. must bet at least 50%..
Added on September 11, 2011, 12:35 pm Read my BR to get the rough idea la.. Even hammie brought RM 50 also let the gf sekali hantam RM 50..
Tered link here..
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 11 2011, 12:54 PM)
myvi had always been on the high price side. actually i dont really like hybrid in someways. it dont really save when ppl like to speed. try diesel. hahahaha~~the torque... myvi 1.3 also can try to run with us. 1.5 will be much easier.
Msian quality diesel too low.. Thats y most of the car manufacturers cant bring in their diesel models.. but if diesel cars were the mainstream cars i bet we would be saving petrol and accelerating like hell .. haha..
QUOTE(abong8 @ Sep 11 2011, 01:12 PM)
U guys damn lucky la last night..
LOL.. Always welcomed to join next fri..
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 01:43 PM)
so u juz drive ur persona on 16 sep lah more the car then juz fun lol
Haha.. Dont want lah.. Xan's PE tire running on slicks.. When he came to my house fetch me also was drifting everywhere.. Want to start moving from traffic light on a hill slope also tire spinning so much..
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2011, 01:54 PM)
I rolled down Genting straight after the rain stopped.
Visibility is around 10-15m at peak. After the temple hairpin, it gets way better but road is slippery.
Yest night visibility was <5m at its worst.. At one point we were less than 3m from the stone divider then only we realised there is a divider in front of us.. If not sure Xan's PE masuk kilang ketuk badan.. haha..
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
The AT gearbox in persona suffers from heavy transmission lost, the heaviest I've seen in any auto cars to date. Torque wise it's fine. AT Persona makes around 110 HP on crank, but only down to 75 on wheel. That's about 30+% transmission loss. As a benchmark to compare with, the manual Persona makes around ~90 plus WHP, can't remember the exact figure but it's around there.
Auto PE 75whp.. Manual PE 92.5whp.. Difference 17.5.. Dyno tested using Dyno Dynamics..
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 11 2011, 03:20 PM)
afterward like those BLM Club members, first say convoy then when reach kaki bukit, sumua jadi hantu. lol that bad eeh.
I'll meet you guys at sri rampai. But I wont be going to genting with you guys, sorry eh. Mind if I bring another BLM along?
Added on September 11, 2011, 3:21 pm
beam suspension can never be more superior than multilink suspension.
ROFLMAO.. Ya do bring.. the more the merrier..
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 11 2011, 03:43 PM)
saga blm is 1.3?? i think because of the weight also lah. but i dunno all my friend complain the fc very high in their blm. somemore high speed a bit floating. swift got a nice quiet engine i think quite normal for a japanese car. its a nice car. but a bit pricey in my opinion.
My housemate also using BLM.. His FC quite on the high side for a 1.3 car.. And the handling like sampan.. But its Lotus handling..
Everybody go gamble u go first world kiu kai lah.. LOL.. 1k so much sure win 5k come back loh.. I brought 200 only.. Tered link here.. Msian quality diesel too low.. Thats y most of the car manufacturers cant bring in their diesel models.. but if diesel cars were the mainstream cars i bet we would be saving petrol and accelerating like hell .. haha.. LOL.. Always welcomed to join next fri.. Haha.. Dont want lah.. Xan's PE tire running on slicks.. When he came to my house fetch me also was drifting everywhere.. Want to start moving from traffic light on a hill slope also tire spinning so much.. Yest night visibility was <5m at its worst.. At one point we were less than 3m from the stone divider then only we realised there is a divider in front of us.. If not sure Xan's PE masuk kilang ketuk badan.. haha.. Auto PE 75whp.. Manual PE 92.5whp.. Difference 17.5.. Dyno tested using Dyno Dynamics.. ROFLMAO.. Ya do bring.. the more the merrier.. My housemate also using BLM.. His FC quite on the high side for a 1.3 car.. And the handling like sampan.. But its Lotus handling..
wah. u all go gamble also can confirm win one meh?? i heard they are improving the diesel quality in m'sia?? but its nice if they bring it in. saving fuel so much even hard acceleration the fuel is like no feel. maybe lotus handling on saga is designed for sampan?? XD
wah. u all go gamble also can confirm win one meh?? i heard they are improving the diesel quality in m'sia?? but its nice if they bring it in. saving fuel so much even hard acceleration the fuel is like no feel. maybe lotus handling on saga is designed for sampan?? XD
LOL.. If got capital confirm win.. If low capital like below 1k then difficult to say..
Quite the luck lah.. N my stubbornness for trying to prove hammie's gf wrong
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Sep 11 2011, 04:44 PM)
3 apek, you got higher chance of winning ma... You play player banker 50:50.. that's why the previous trip all lose money..
if can we all PE gang pau the whole 3 apek table la...
It all depends on ur cards anyway.. And ur luck.. Ask Zeng la how suay was it when I was at the 1st table.. My cards score never more than 6 wan.. It's either I lose or dealer pay half.. Kns..
got one time i drove myvi to downhill aroudn 4am,and its raining..i'm race wit another fren myvi when downhill..i oso spin when i whack the corner..luckily still can control bec..after tat oso keep whack corner until karak highway lo
3 apek, you got higher chance of winning ma... You play player banker 50:50.. that's why the previous trip all lose money..
if can we all PE gang pau the whole 3 apek table la...
of course can lah.. Just make sure enough of ppl go up together.. we pau the whole table with the prettiest croupier one..
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 04:51 PM)
Quite the luck lah.. N my stubbornness for trying to prove hammie's gf wrong It all depends on ur cards anyway.. And ur luck.. Ask Zeng la how suay was it when I was at the 1st table.. My cards score never more than 6 wan.. It's either I lose or dealer pay half.. Kns..
lol.. Damn funny loh.. Tap u everytime lose one.. In the end only winning a bit to cover cost.
of course can lah.. Just make sure enough of ppl go up together.. we pau the whole table with the prettiest croupier one.. lol.. Damn funny loh.. Tap u everytime lose one.. In the end only winning a bit to cover cost.
Find empty table not easy leh..especially during public hols..
of course can lah.. Just make sure enough of ppl go up together.. we pau the whole table with the prettiest croupier one.. lol.. Damn funny loh.. Tap u everytime lose one.. In the end only winning a bit to cover cost.
i think i will bring a bit extra money to try luck wit all of u..if kalah,then eat roti whole month lo
anone know whats the process to sellout own car is still under loan ?
Said that U've found the buyer.. U need to send ur car for Puspakom checkup.. After that the buyer must go apply for loan.. Depends on how much u still owe the bank, u may need to top up/add to pay off the bank interests..
If compared with you guys de more superior PE, of coz sampan lo.
But if want compare with other beam suspension cars like the lagi best and that lagi best older generation, I am sure both of them lagi sampan. That's the limitation of beam suspension. Nothing much can be done to further improve the handling without sacrificing the ride comfort.
Right now I am saving $ for front strut bar and other handling enhancements.
dun wori,b4 tis i always drive my wife previous saga blm auto to race wit lagi best older generation,vxxs,cxxy lo..always can beat them in corner...straight road at highway oso can cucuk them gao gao lo..most people comment saga blm 2008 was makan minyak..but my wife one consider save lo..100% highway from semenyih to cameron highland,i can achieve RM0.12/km lo..speed around 120-140..and if city drive(everyday travel 40km),oso always can achieve RM0.14-RM0.16/km..this is result tat i calculate on 2010..if din remember wrong,the petrol price tat time should be RM1.80 or RM1.90..and the topspeed tat i able to go is 180kmh..
If compared with you guys de more superior PE, of coz sampan lo.
But if want compare with other beam suspension cars like the lagi best and that lagi best older generation, I am sure both of them lagi sampan. That's the limitation of beam suspension. Nothing much can be done to further improve the handling without sacrificing the ride comfort.
Right now I am saving $ for front strut bar and other handling enhancements.
just be careful with ur strut bar.. Dun install too thick.. Later lower arm koyak..
Just reach KL. Had a great journey back home... Bumped into the proton plaster car and an Exora without CPS badge at Tapah R&R. Thought of wanna convoy with them then i fast fast hop into my car after doing my thing. mana tau they stop their car at the roadside, maybe waiting for the exora. So i purposely drive slowly hope they'll catch up soon... then damn sien waiting, all of a sudden they pass me by... haha... so i convoyed with them till they stop at Sg Buloh R&R.
Listen from the exhaust sound of the plaster car,seems like got a dragon in there. When it accelerate at 100kmh above,the exhaust sounds like got turbo in there.
Also i think next badge of the Exora can tapau our PE already.. Just now the Exora that's following the convoy, can really go and go and go......... unlike big cars that stuck at certain speed then no matter how you press also won't go fast anymore.
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2011, 08:32 PM)
xandras bro (and other Persona kakis)
Gen.2 CPS MT worth buying as a base for future (soft) mod? Now got quite attractive discount as all are 2010 stock...
Persona HL no MT
Inspira 1.8MT pulak stretch ma budget a bit
Pl0x advise
Pink Spider, better wait for the new model to come out. 3 more months it's end of 2011 already. New proton car is coming too... and seems very promising after seeing the plaster car. Might got some hidden dragon in the new model
Just reach KL. Had a great journey back home... Bumped into the proton plaster car and an Exora without CPS badge at Tapah R&R. Thought of wanna convoy with them then i fast fast hop into my car after doing my thing. mana tau they stop their car at the roadside, maybe waiting for the exora. So i purposely drive slowly hope they'll catch up soon... then damn sien waiting, all of a sudden they pass me by... haha... so i convoyed with them till they stop at Sg Buloh R&R.
Listen from the exhaust sound of the plaster car,seems like got a dragon in there. When it accelerate at 100kmh above,the exhaust sounds like got turbo in there.
memang got turbo mah.
Exora Turbo due to be launched around November/December. Next month is Saga FLX 1.6
Gen.2 CPS MT worth buying as a base for future (soft) mod? Now got quite attractive discount as all are 2010 stock...
Persona HL no MT
Inspira 1.8MT pulak stretch ma budget a bit
Pl0x advise
TBH the gen2 & PE are at their late/final/old stage now, about to be replaced by persona R very soon. If u dun mind about the depreciation after u get one, by all means go ahead..
The gen2 CPS mt has got a more powerful engine than PE, and slightly better handling due to the lack of boot/overhang at the rear. The sitting position is also sportier, party due to the semi bucket seats in Gen2 as opposed to normal seats in PE. However, the PE is much more comfortable especially on long distances.
The Gen2 is more of a modder's car, so there are more choices of mod parts available for Gen2 compared to PE. The lack of 32 bit ECU (used in PE) in Gen2 makes modding easier too.
Gen.2 sits lower than PE...lower suspension setting? PE felt more 'executive' car to me...Gen.2 more 'low rider' feeling...
But it's all 2010 stock...
Gen2 CPS not in production d lah. It's only old stocks selling now. If u want, u can still get the Waja CPS old stock at RM 45k or so. It's quite a bargain if u actually look at it. But the design is rather dated & ugly lah. Ride quality & insulation wise Waja CPS is really good.
Lower suspension setting for improved handling. PE is more comfort-oriented.
PE H-line feels quite executive if compared to Gen2 CPS. But it's only available in AT.
The new Gen2 comes with IAFM if I'm not mistaken, and it's using PE's rear lights.
This is what we call segmentation in Marketing. To make profit, every single detail matters.
But u do realise rite? Many Wajas, especially those modded ones are driven by Indians.. Those chinese pulak suka mod Wira/Putra with HUGEEEEASSSS GT wings that can double it's function as a clothesline..
QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Sep 11 2011, 10:33 PM)
oh..... shit.. my persona.. the audio button.. all not functioning.. GG... at first 1 button sot.. then now all die..
But u do realise rite? Many Wajas, especially those modded ones are driven by Indians.. Those chinese pulak suka mod Wira/Putra with HUGEEEEASSSS GT wings that can double it's function as a clothesline.. Time to mod ur ICE
Yea... it's true. 1 Malaysia ma... but can never be 1. Coz we as Malaysian, likes variety. Just like food.
Added on September 11, 2011, 10:42 pm
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2011, 10:39 PM)
How about Inspira? Unkers?
Inspira at this stage, you can only see executive earning more than 40k pa or above ppl drive it. So cannot segment by race yet. personally seen NL,RC,CKT driving it.
This post has been edited by K.Lee: Sep 11 2011, 10:42 PM
Yea... it's true. 1 Malaysia ma... but can never be 1. Coz we as Malaysian, likes variety. Just like food.
Added on September 11, 2011, 10:42 pm
Inspira at this stage, you can only see executive earning more than 40k pa or above ppl drive it. So cannot segment by race yet. personally seen NL,RC,CKT driving it.
But why it felt so difficult? Maby too many commitments
That's minimum to afford one. Depends on your financial planning la PINKY. Depend on how much % you wanna spend on your car lo... you got big budget then more expensive car lo...
That's minimum to afford one. Depends on your financial planning la PINKY. Depend on how much % you wanna spend on your car lo... you got big budget then more expensive car lo...
Or simply put heavier downpayment lo to reduce monthly payments.. Put 30k (if u can), then ur loan is gonna be the same as paying for a PE..
I know you making more than that.. the market now is like that. unless a professional like you who's earning more than that 40k PA. Executive also got Junior and Senior. But Fark la... All are just name. pay never increase one.
If I buy Inspira 1.8MT pay over 9 years by tradein Myvi, every month I only can save RM200+/-
Ur Myvi what's the trade in value? How many years car d?
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Sep 11 2011, 10:55 PM)
I know you making more than that.. the market now is like that. unless a professional like you who's earning more than that 40k PA. Executive also got Junior and Senior. But Fark la... All are just name. pay never increase one.
Venture into own business lah.. I will definitely start my own investments & business once I have enough to do so.. Prolly in another 3-5 years.. Work for ppl will never get rich lah.. Unless hold super duper high positions..
Added on September 11, 2011, 10:56 pmEvery month I only have 700++ to spare...lotsa commitments my parents no longer working
If that's the case.. I suggest u to continue driving the Myvi first.. U will definitely need the money in case of an emergency.. Plus I'm sure u're givin some of ur salary to ur parents, rite?
Then either u trade in + add another 10-15k or so.. Then reduce loan amount.. Still can manage geh.. But if ur Myvi still working well.. Just drive it lah.. Save to get another better car.. Unless u get promoted lo..
Ur Myvi what's the trade in value? How many years car d? Venture into own business lah.. I will definitely start my own investments & business once I have enough to do so.. Prolly in another 3-5 years.. Work for ppl will never get rich lah.. Unless hold super duper high positions..
That's why i'm looking for lubang now...Need a good lubang only i can get the capital...
That's why i'm looking for lubang now...Need a good lubang only i can get the capital...
Haiz. Slowly bro.. We'll work for it..
Added on September 11, 2011, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Sep 11 2011, 11:07 PM)
pm me your car details.. i got friend looking for car.. the most important.. worth to drive?? forum member... cakap benar.. haha
Banyak naik turun genting wan... I guess it's better for him to tell u himself..
Added on September 11, 2011, 11:11 pmMEGA TT 6.0 Date: 16th September 2011 Time: 8pm onwards. Meetup Place: Parking in front of Pappa Rich Rampai Business Court, then convoy up Genting. GPS Coordinate: 3.198985, 101.727680
Guys, it's been a while since we had a proper TT (last PROPER TT that we had was Mega TT V5.0 on the 14th May 2011 at Kayu Nasi Kandar, Aman Suria.), so I thought it might be a good idea to organize another TT on the 16th of September. It's a Friday and a public holiday, shouldn't be much of a problem for members to attend if they really want to and have the heart to do so.
What I meant by a proper TT? To be honest, we've had dozens of TTs and mini TTs, but new members rarely show up. It's as if their existence is purely fictional and they live only in the thread. The aim of this TT is to meet new members, share more knowledge about our dear Personas and have fun. Do not be intimidated by the use of English in this thread as we're a multi-racial community that speaks all sorts of language & dialects during TTs. (English, Malay, Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, you name it.. I can speak Russian as well if you want me to. )
What are we going to do during the TT? Well the plan is actually to meet up at the parking lot by 8PM, and then we'll drive and bring our TT to Genting Highlands. Expecting around 10+ members to join this TT, but if it's less than that it's fine also.
Please RSVP for those who are coming!!
Attendees:
1. xandras - 1 car genting 2. ZenGTMM - 1 car genting 3. unknownhammie - 1 car genting 4. zapdos9 5. K.Lee - 1 car genting 6. samwongjyhhorng - 1 car genting 7. abong8 8. shelby_yong 9. UnTiDy_PeRsoNA 10. kiatsim86 - 1 car genting 11. ckdenion 12. pupumaru - 1 car genting 13. Fubar20 - 1 car genting 14. jasontantenghuat - 1 car genting 15. ngeo88 - 1 car genting 16. panje001
New members are welcomed with open arms.. Awesome.. Now got 16 members ady.. Finally for the first TT we meet quota.. haha..
I have some suggestions to make here.. Since this TT is gonna be quite big this time.. I don't quite want it to be a sosej-fest just like how the previous TTs used to be. And since our only female member (phythia79) is no longer active (how sad), this never-ending chain of gay parade will never ever cease to exist.
The point that I'm trying to illustrate here is.. Bring ur chicks along!! try to bring ur gfs or friends along if possible.. This TT is open to all, & of course.. The more the merrier.. What do u guys think about this? Feedbacks pls
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 11 2011, 11:11 PM
The latest map version 3.33 is now available for downloading from our website for Navigation Software version 2.07, 3.10, 3.20, 4.0 and 4.0 (Perodua Myvi). Majority of the road and POI updates in this version covers Klang Valley, Johor and Penang.
we always heard ppl change engine and add turbo. anyone change gearbox?? hows the cost actually??
Added on September 12, 2011, 12:20 amasking about ICE ah. how useful is a tweeter actually?? no difference??
To change gearbox u must first make sure it's compatible with our engine.. Changing from auto to manual & vice versa is possible, but from one autobox to another.. Not unheard of, but very rare..
As for the tweeters.. Think of tweeters as mini speakers, or dome they call it. These tweeters produces treble & clarity, while the speakers on the doors produce mostly bass. It's like separating the function of a speaker into two, and then placing it on ur dashboard to direct sound/music towards u..
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 12 2011, 12:23 AM)
Should I thank joo for helping to increase GGC's membership
I shall quit this soon. Faceless wan me become GGC chairman d
Aiyo.. my car hard to start symptom is back Anyone got this problem before and solved already?
since ur car is the same year as me, i think u might had the same problem as me. my SC checked for me. it is not the crank sensor but the battery. (applied to me) so not sure about yours lah. i think a voltmeter can give u an answer edi.
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 12 2011, 12:30 AM)
To change gearbox u must first make sure it's compatible with our engine.. Changing from auto to manual & vice versa is possible, but from one autobox to another.. Not unheard of, but very rare..
As for the tweeters.. Think of tweeters as mini speakers, or dome they call it. These tweeters produces treble & clarity, while the speakers on the doors produce mostly bass. It's like separating the function of a speaker into two, and then placing it on ur dashboard to direct sound/music towards u.. I shall quit this soon. Faceless wan me become GGC chairman d
hmm...u mean the engine need to be in par with the gearbox. lets say if we want to use maybe tiptronic for campro then its not possible lor?? hmm...so is it worth to get?? i am getting one. hahaha~~
cold start only or every single time? Ever suspected ur spark plugs might be the culprit?
Not cold start.. for example... I start my engine from point A and travel to point B stop and the engine was turned off.. When wanna travel from point B to point C. My engine hard to start at point B I checked all the spark plug.. all sparking new
QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Sep 12 2011, 12:42 AM)
starter issue?
I don't think so.. If started issue it wont happen only certain time.. It will happen to all the time when start the engine.. It happen to my toyota unser last time..
Added on September 12, 2011, 12:49 am
QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Sep 12 2011, 12:46 AM)
since ur car is the same year as me, i think u might had the same problem as me. my SC checked for me. it is not the crank sensor but the battery. (applied to me) so not sure about yours lah. i think a voltmeter can give u an answer edi. hmm...u mean the engine need to be in par with the gearbox. lets say if we want to use maybe tiptronic for campro then its not possible lor?? hmm...so is it worth to get?? i am getting one. hahaha~~
My car battery still in good condition.. Confirmed by few accessories shop and serdang sc
This post has been edited by KKW: Sep 12 2011, 12:52 AM
Not cold start.. for example... I start my engine from point A and travel to point B stop and the engine was turned off.. When wanna travel from point B to point C. My engine hard to start at point B I checked all the spark plug.. all sparking new I don't think so.. If started issue not only certain time.. It will be all the time when start the engine.. It happen to my toyota unser last time..
Added on September 12, 2011, 12:49 am
My car battery still in good condition.. Confirmed by few accessories shop and serdang sc
wow. how come mine so fast going weak?? even my friend exora battery condemned in almost 2 years. btw, if it is crank sensor y dun let them change it?? normally cold start even better than after u stop the car a while then go start the car. mine like said is the battery so lets say u on the radio or maybe the small lamp for a while(only a while) then the car is like very no power to start edi. but i not sure who said that our car run on ignition coil or something, so when our battery is below certain volt our car is hard to start edi. so i wonder if this is true and the accesesories shop knows?? just giving my opinion lah. if yes then problem easy solved.
wow. how come mine so fast going weak?? even my friend exora battery condemned in almost 2 years. btw, if it is crank sensor y dun let them change it?? normally cold start even better than after u stop the car a while then go start the car. mine like said is the battery so lets say u on the radio or maybe the small lamp for a while(only a while) then the car is like very no power to start edi. but i not sure who said that our car run on ignition coil or something, so when our battery is below certain volt our car is hard to start edi. so i wonder if this is true and the accesesories shop knows?? just giving my opinion lah. if yes then problem easy solved.
I changed the crank sensor before.. Yup. our car run on ignition coil.. I have voltage stabilizer and I can monitor the voltage when I left my car untouch for 4days.. The indicator show I still got 12.4V and it has more V than ignition coil needed
Added on September 12, 2011, 1:03 amSomemore the serdang sc hook up computer to check the ECU stated I got enough V to start the engine wor..
This post has been edited by KKW: Sep 12 2011, 01:03 AM
I changed the crank sensor before.. Yup. our car run on ignition coil.. I have voltage stabilizer and I can monitor the voltage when I left my car untouch for 4days.. The indicator show I still got 12.4V and it has more V than ignition coil needed
hmm....i tot normal should be 13 or something. not sure bout that. then quite troublesome. coz u edi change the crank sensor, and ur battery no problem. maybe need to google reason for a car cannot start XD btw, hows the voltage stabilizer effect?? wat brand u use?? i tot of using, but lots of ppl say no big difference, not so worth.
hmm....i tot normal should be 13 or something. not sure bout that. then quite troublesome. coz u edi change the crank sensor, and ur battery no problem. maybe need to google reason for a car cannot start XD btw, hows the voltage stabilizer effect?? wat brand u use?? i tot of using, but lots of ppl say no big difference, not so worth.
You travel already and turn off the engine you will get 12.8V-13.3V and while the engine running you will get 14.2V-14.6V I forget the brand name already.. if not mistaken it the name start with K.. When I install it help me solve the problem when the compressor kick in my headlight wont dim a while but it happen to me now.. it seem no different after 1year of usage..
Drive safe mate.. Find empty table not easy leh..especially during public hols..
CAn one lah.. Can slowly chase ppl away..haha.. But heck if its a pretty chick.. Might as well let them continue sitting there right?
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 11 2011, 05:44 PM)
i think i will bring a bit extra money to try luck wit all of u..if kalah,then eat roti whole month lo
u no need eat roti lah.. U can 'take' some ibumie from ur factory.. haha..
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2011, 08:32 PM)
xandras bro (and other Persona kakis)
Gen.2 CPS MT worth buying as a base for future (soft) mod? Now got quite attractive discount as all are 2010 stock...
Persona HL no MT
Inspira 1.8MT pulak stretch ma budget a bit
Pl0x advise
Based on ur budget, i dont think its worth it trading in the Myvi and getting a Gen2 CPS.. First of all its higher FC will set u back around 100-150 extra a mth compared to what u getting from ur Myvi.. And ur Gen2 will depreciate much faster too.. If u are planning to do soft mods might as well wait for the next-gen protons with turbochargers to come first.. At least its more value for money and lower FC too..
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 11 2011, 09:54 PM)
Feast ur eyes before I remove it.. Takut kena stalk lah..
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Of course will welcome lah.. But this is Persona club tho.. LOL.. Nvm.. anyone also we welcome wan.. Persona & Gen2 are brothers anyway..
(I'm a TS that doesn't own a Persona This might well be the last thread that I'm gonna be the TS..)
I cant see lah... No pics there..
QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2011, 10:27 PM)
Gatecrash a while...seem like quite a lot cainis driving PE...on the contrary Gen.2 mostly meleis
Pe to me looks like more meleis lah.. U go to FB PPEOC and see.. 99.98% meleis.. But the non-meleis mostly hangout in LYN, so looks like here got more cainis..
QUOTE(lokatoo @ Sep 11 2011, 11:39 PM)
Dear Lokatoo customers,
The latest map version 3.33 is now available for downloading from our website for Navigation Software version 2.07, 3.10, 3.20, 4.0 and 4.0 (Perodua Myvi). Majority of the road and POI updates in this version covers Klang Valley, Johor and Penang.
just had a drag race 150 m with an unknown BMW model. not sure is 5 series or the diesel series but definitely not a 3 series
0-50m the BMW lead me
51-60m my PE leading
61-70m the BMW took over me again
71-150m both of us at the same position before i take sharp cornering back to my house. ( can hear the drift sounds of my front tires damn painful my heart lol)
just had a drag race 150 m with an unknown BMW model. not sure is 5 series or the diesel series but definitely not a 3 series
0-50m the BMW lead me
51-60m my PE leading
61-70m the BMW took over me again
71-150m both of us at the same position before i take sharp cornering back to my house. ( can hear the drift sounds of my front tires damn painful my heart lol)
just had a drag race 150 m with an unknown BMW model. not sure is 5 series or the diesel series but definitely not a 3 series
0-50m the BMW lead me
51-60m my PE leading
61-70m the BMW took over me again
71-150m both of us at the same position before i take sharp cornering back to my house. ( can hear the drift sounds of my front tires damn painful my heart lol)
Dream on lor... I tried with a few BMW old type and also Benz, if they really press our Persona got no chance at all.
Unless you are running @ 130~150 km/h on highway and your car is beside or behind.. this still might have chance to tail only but to overtake impossible unless hardcore mod. With just extractor,filter,plugs not sufficient.
dont go try with them with stocks car because ur brake system cant take it when sharp cornering...believe me or prepare some money before you go try.
Based on ur budget, i dont think its worth it trading in the Myvi and getting a Gen2 CPS.. First of all its higher FC will set u back around 100-150 extra a mth compared to what u getting from ur Myvi.. And ur Gen2 will depreciate much faster too.. If u are planning to do soft mods might as well wait for the next-gen protons with turbochargers to come first.. At least its more value for money and lower FC too..
GGC is it previously the Landu CLub in Kopitiam ah?
Baru today my mind biased toward Gen.2 CPS...now kanna pour cold water again
just had a drag race 150 m with an unknown BMW model. not sure is 5 series or the diesel series but definitely not a 3 series
0-50m the BMW lead me
51-60m my PE leading
61-70m the BMW took over me again
71-150m both of us at the same position before i take sharp cornering back to my house. ( can hear the drift sounds of my front tires damn painful my heart lol)
You travel already and turn off the engine you will get 12.8V-13.3V and while the engine running you will get 14.2V-14.6V I forget the brand name already.. if not mistaken it the name start with K.. When I install it help me solve the problem when the compressor kick in my headlight wont dim a while but it happen to me now.. it seem no different after 1year of usage..
hmm....so the VS dont last or wat. then need to ask those pros. i dunno much actually XD
Dream on lor... I tried with a few BMW old type and also Benz, if they really press our Persona got no chance at all.
Unless you are running @ 130~150 km/h on highway and your car is beside or behind.. this still might have chance to tail only but to overtake impossible unless hardcore mod. With just extractor,filter,plugs not sufficient.
dont go try with them with stocks car because ur brake system cant take it when sharp cornering...believe me or prepare some money before you go try.
lol that time i off radio and air cond.... yea yea u r right..... almost crash d... cuz of the spongy brake pad
Added on September 12, 2011, 6:45 pm
QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 12 2011, 11:56 AM)
Why heart pain? Should be proud of urself
tires botak la....
This post has been edited by saddient: Sep 12 2011, 06:45 PM
Hi guys, i am facing some prob from my new persona el, it is pretty new and only used for a month, now i have 2 questions.
1) my car fan will auto on after 15 mins i died off my car engine, is it normal? I asked the guy from sc and they told me due to long way driving, the temp meter will trigger the fan as the engine is too hot.
2) the buzzing sound when we unlock/ lock the car. Due to some unknown reason, my car currently have no buzzing sound when i on/off the car lock with the remote. I did have a check on the booklet, it shows we need to press 2 buttons simu, i did and the light flashes for 4 times, however it is still no buzzing sound.
Hi guys, i am facing some prob from my new persona el, it is pretty new and only used for a month, now i have 2 questions.
1) my car fan will auto on after 15 mins i died off my car engine, is it normal? I asked the guy from sc and they told me due to long way driving, the temp meter will trigger the fan as the engine is too hot.
2) the buzzing sound when we unlock/ lock the car. Due to some unknown reason, my car currently have no buzzing sound when i on/off the car lock with the remote. I did have a check on the booklet, it shows we need to press 2 buttons simu, i did and the light flashes for 4 times, however it is still no buzzing sound.
Any solution for both of them?
No.1: U drive long distance/tekan ur accelerator kaw kaw? If yes then it's normal. The radiator fan is working overtime to cool the engine down after u shut off the engine.
No.2: Ur alarm buzz is in silent mode.. And if u said no buzzing sound still after pressing simultaneously, it may be because of the buzzer kaput or improperly wired.. Is Ur buzzer working when u first get the car?
Hi guys, i am facing some prob from my new persona el, it is pretty new and only used for a month, now i have 2 questions.
1) my car fan will auto on after 15 mins i died off my car engine, is it normal? I asked the guy from sc and they told me due to long way driving, the temp meter will trigger the fan as the engine is too hot.
2) the buzzing sound when we unlock/ lock the car. Due to some unknown reason, my car currently have no buzzing sound when i on/off the car lock with the remote. I did have a check on the booklet, it shows we need to press 2 buttons simu, i did and the light flashes for 4 times, however it is still no buzzing sound.
Any solution for both of them?
1) yeah.. Its normal, if u drive fnf style or very far at high speed and the engine is too hot it will auto turn on.. Safety feature for ur engine block..
2) Retry and see if there is the buzzing sound.. If not have to bring to SC to claim buzzer..
1) yeah.. Its normal, if u drive fnf style or very far at high speed and the engine is too hot it will auto turn on.. Safety feature for ur engine block..
2) Retry and see if there is the buzzing sound.. If not have to bring to SC to claim buzzer..
so far from i get persona until today(13month oledi),i heard the fan on 3 times onli after i switch off my engine..tat means i din always fnf,rite?
That day after reach genting.. Didnt FnF much also.. Got down from car then walked into lift, went up to first world lobby then only hammie remembered he left his wallet in my car.. Went back down to carpark to my car to get his wallet, my fan was running..
Oh icic, usually I lap 120 to 140 at high way, not sure consider need for speed style or not.
I though supposingly the fan should remain stay on about few minutes after the engine off? How come it auto on after maybe 5 to 15mins.
Sorry for my noob knowledge, just really scare and hope it don't dmg the car lol.
And thanks for all the reply
That doesnt apply to PE.
The sensors will measure the in engine temperature, and then decide whether natural cooling is enough to cool the engine down. If not then only the fan will start running. After FnF, the engine heat is trapped under the hood, and when ur car isnt moving, there's no air rush into the engine bay to cool it down.
The sensors will measure the in engine temperature, and then decide whether natural cooling is enough to cool the engine down. If not then only the fan will start running. After FnF, the engine heat is trapped under the hood, and when ur car isnt moving, there's no air rush into the engine bay to cool it down.
this is the good feature proton came out so far...
my Rm50.. hahaha.... Lucky ship wei.. LOL.. But the last bet.....................................................................
Damn faiyaaa lor when I think about that bet. Zzz... Suan le bah. Be fair to myself and uncle lim, he's kind enough to let me walk away with 450% of what I came with.
Added on September 12, 2011, 9:03 pmEh mana ada ur RM 50.. I pinjam ur RM 50 to get back capital wan leh.. Then I returned ur RM 50 to u wat..
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 12 2011, 09:03 PM
Damn faiyaaa lor when I think about that bet. Zzz... Suan le bah. Be fair to myself and uncle lim, he's kind enough to let me walk away with 450% of what I came with.
Added on September 12, 2011, 9:03 pmEh mana ada ur RM 50.. I pinjam ur RM 50 to get back capital wan leh.. Then I returned ur RM 50 to u wat..
Damn faiyaaa lor when I think about that bet. Zzz... Suan le bah. Be fair to myself and uncle lim, he's kind enough to let me walk away with 450% of what I came with.
Added on September 12, 2011, 9:03 pmEh mana ada ur RM 50.. I pinjam ur RM 50 to get back capital wan leh.. Then I returned ur RM 50 to u wat..
Ya return ady.. hehe.. So actually u lost so much.. Next round bring more bullet.. I coming with 1k.
That was a miracle lah. From RM 50 climb till 1.1k. But dun talk about it d lah. Screw the final bet
LOL..i had my share of come back also...was there 2 weeks ago... lost RM 1K...then the last RM25 go bet on Tie in bacarrat..mana tau won..so got 8times = RM200... and went on winning streak and won back what i lost..and got extra RM 400 also
LOL..i had my share of come back also...was there 2 weeks ago... lost RM 1K...then the last RM25 go bet on Tie in bacarrat..mana tau won..so got 8times = RM200... and went on winning streak and won back what i lost..and got extra RM 400 also
share my story.. last year go genting.. genting organize 21st birthday. join the game they invite.. the fastest drinker.. me get number 3 rm 200 free for gamble.. take the 200 play the machine.. win from g\begin untill end. untill strike mini jackpot... get 1k+ totaly winning around 1.7 k.. mana tahu.. since from that day.. i never win ady..Sob Sob. i might not go gamble.. go see xandras gamble.. haha
Ya return ady.. hehe.. So actually u lost so much.. Next round bring more bullet.. I coming with 1k.
Dont bring more than ur winnings bro.. Later lose d sure u damn sakit hati wan.. At least if u lose back the winnings that u got from uncle lim, it's his money anyway.. Jz anggap return to him.. I wont bring that much.. At most RM 500.. Work 2-3 days can get back d.. Wont so sakit hati.. But it's up to u lah.. Cos my aim is to never lose more than my total earnings from uncle lim..
QUOTE(pupumaru @ Sep 12 2011, 09:19 PM)
LOL..i had my share of come back also...was there 2 weeks ago... lost RM 1K...then the last RM25 go bet on Tie in bacarrat..mana tau won..so got 8times = RM200... and went on winning streak and won back what i lost..and got extra RM 400 also
I drive iswara only.. tumpang ur car yea k.lee.. tomorrow need to go fix the broken windscreen.. btw anyone know how much is the replacement windscreen for old saga?
At least we get to leave finger prints on his Cayman, then its good enough
QUOTE(kiatsim86 @ Sep 12 2011, 10:52 PM)
TT TT TT.... does the sg rampai papa rich shows in our Lokatoo??? dunno how to go there >.<
Got lah.. Search for jalan Kilang.. Plus if SRI RAMPAI doesn't show up u can throw ur gps away d.. Sri Rampai is one of the mini towns in Setapak area, impossible ur gps no show..
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 12 2011, 10:53 PM)
Not that doesn't consider him as ex Personarian. But convoy later, he start from behind tapau us and then slow down to back and tapau us again.
Got lah.. Search for jalan Kilang.. Plus if SRI RAMPAI doesn't show up u can throw ur gps away d.. Sri Rampai is one of the mini towns in Setapak area, impossible ur gps no show.. I'm not that evil.. Dun worry..
for those dono go there.. go genting klang TARC college,,, i go there meet u ppl and bring u go there
Got lah.. Search for jalan Kilang.. Plus if SRI RAMPAI doesn't show up u can throw ur gps away d.. Sri Rampai is one of the mini towns in Setapak area, impossible ur gps no show.. I'm not that evil.. Dun worry..
We are respecting your Cayman by giving finger prints wei... remember the 458? how much finger prints the 458 gets? we give you 911 finger prints la.. lol
We are respecting your Cayman by giving finger prints wei... remember the 458? how much finger prints the 458 gets? we give you 911 finger prints la.. lol
I coming with iswara la.. legendary terminator iswara..
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 12 2011, 11:03 PM)
You saw him 'leaking' fluids meh?
He's always leaking wan ma.. 'run water' wherever he go
Added on September 12, 2011, 11:16 pmBtw to answer ur question Sam, no chance lah. Forte 1.6 126 hp 156 nm torque 1240 kgs.
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 12 2011, 11:16 PM
but a lot people mentioned persona is b segment,cant consider c segment lo
Who mentioned that? Got proof mou?
Segments are usually assigned according to the length, width & height of the vehicle. A B segment car is like Vios, Saga, City. So if Persona is B segment car, then Saga is A segment?
Segments are usually assigned according to the length, width & height of the vehicle. A B segment car is like Vios, Saga, City. So if Persona is B segment car, then Saga is A segment?
i saw from one chinese forum..the people mentioned persona body length not enough long to consider is c segment,but it is more longer than B segment..so they assume the persona is B+ segment lo
i saw from one chinese forum..the people mentioned persona body length not enough long to consider is c segment,but it is more longer than B segment..so they assume the persona is B+ segment lo
bunch of jokers. There's no such thing as B+ segment.
i saw from one chinese forum..the people mentioned persona body length not enough long to consider is c segment,but it is more longer than B segment..so they assume the persona is B+ segment lo
i saw from one chinese forum..the people mentioned persona body length not enough long to consider is c segment,but it is more longer than B segment..so they assume the persona is B+ segment lo
Got such thing meh.. haiz.. Then what if cars are way bigger than A segment but not big enough for B segment, B- or A+?
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Make me think twice before driving that Iswara, even if it's just for warming up the engine
Added on September 13, 2011, 12:19 am Cannot lah. 2moro working earlier to settle today's unfinished work. How also need to sleep more tonight. 1Malaysia here
That's what it looks like when it's being recycled.
That's what it looks like when it's being recycled.
Haiz. Not sleeping yet? I wan go tidur d.. U nothing to do go join them for poker la..
P.S: To Zeng, just because u won money from uncle lim that day u dun simply gamble till lose all capital ah. Friday u no capital gua kasi hantam sama lu..
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 13 2011, 12:25 AM
That's what it looks like when it's being recycled.
HAHAHAHAHA ROFLMAO!!
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 13 2011, 12:24 AM)
Haiz. Not sleeping yet? I wan go tidur d.. U nothing to do go join them for poker la..
P.S: To Zeng, just because u won money from uncle lim that day u dun simply gamble till lose all capital ah. Friday u no capital gua kasi hantam sama lu..
LOL Dont worry.. My bullet kaw kaw reload.. Now high powered missile ady.. LOL.. Hammie now very rich.. took cash and balik..
This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Sep 13 2011, 06:05 AM
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
wah..around RM0.11/km onli..so save lo wat speed tat u drive?
Added on September 13, 2011, 11:32 am
QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 13 2011, 11:06 AM)
Caltex 97 for Genting TT ... Now reving to get below half tank... now only 3/4 tank @@. Go office till thursday maybe can finish it gua.
so rich lo..but v plan to drive slow and convoy,isn't it?so no need so power lo :Psomemore ur car is manual,makan all of us ady
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 13 2011, 11:32 AM
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
Zeng has came out formula to mix petrol... result not bad too...
Battle during TT, mau batang fight?? maintain 100-120, sometime 130 but very seldom la, even go 130 also just for a while only. if ladyboy is fully mod with Vijayna then also i dunno lor... and if hot like phoy y not??
Who ask you to battle at Pappa Rich? Battle at Genting mah. What the fook are that? Got pics ah?
Rich no rich also no point.. He always bring RM 50 only to genting
Haha.. he also brought RM50 here to play.. Won more than 200%..
QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Sep 13 2011, 10:50 AM)
Petronas gives better fc than Caltex?
Yeah.. There is this secret Zeng's formula in V22.. 55% Caltex, 45% Petronas for alomost no power loss and very good FC, or 55% Petronas and 45% Caltex for very good FC and slightly less powerful.. The latter suitable for highway cruising only.. The former is a better all rounder for city and highway driving..
QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 13 2011, 11:06 AM)
Caltex 97 for Genting TT ... Now reving to get below half tank... now only 3/4 tank @@. Go office till thursday maybe can finish it gua.
LOLL>..in PPLYNC we have many members with different preferences / taste
As in REAL life, there is not only black and white but also shades of grey in the middle. As long as he didn't hit on you, just count your blessings and move along.
As in REAL life, there is not only black and white but also shades of grey in the middle. As long as he didn't hit on you, just count your blessings and move along.
Isn't it Laughing Gor? He long time didn't became 'Sir' oredi. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2031854 One of our member, Fenrir kena accident again. Penang kia somemore kena government car buttsex.
This post has been edited by Fubar20: Sep 13 2011, 03:21 PM
Isn't it Laughing Gor? He long time didn't became 'Sir' oredi. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2031854 One of our member, Fenrir kena accident again. Penang kia somemore kena government car buttsex.
another accident anyways..his PE butt not so bad damage considered kena banged at high speed
He's not really that good at driving to be honest... during tt when he was parking his car he almost bang one of the member's car.. Oh well.. Everyone has got their own blooper moments..
HDD failure is the unluckiest thing that could happen to you... speaking of that i need to buy an external HDD to backup my data just in case
I got 4 external HDD for my backup files, 160GB, 500GB, 500GB and 1TB....
1 of the 500GB full of HD Grade 3 and 5 movies
Had 2 copies of backup image of my laptop in both 500GB ext HDD when newly purchased a year earlier. Thats how careful I am in my backups. Only the HD Grade 5 movies cannot keep 2 copies....too many and too big...
@xan. today i went to tyre shop to do some survey on the price. one tyre shop recommend CC5 @ RM240 per piece. another shop mentioned if budget can get cheap one at RM190 per piece but those not good brand. when i asked about the yokohama. the price is RM220 for A-drive, RM245 for C-drive 2( he mentioned this is the improved version of C-drive)
@xan. today i went to tyre shop to do some survey on the price. one tyre shop recommend CC5 @ RM240 per piece. another shop mentioned if budget can get cheap one at RM190 per piece but those not good brand. when i asked about the yokohama. the price is RM220 for A-drive, RM245 for C-drive 2( he mentioned this is the improved version of C-drive)
A drive RM 220 very overkill Liao. C drive 2 is the SUCCESSOR to C drive.. So in a way it's slightly better.. But still not worth the RM 245.. I long time never go follow tyre price d.. Must go get the list from my fren.
sigh.... microsoft windows says that my hdd is failing and should backup now. dam, not even 1 year and hdd starting to fail, lol...
dont run torrent download on the hdd, it keep reading to the hdd when downloading... i would suggest using another small capacity hdd or hdd going to spoil to run download....
I got 4 external HDD for my backup files, 160GB, 500GB, 500GB and 1TB....
1 of the 500GB full of HD Grade 3 and 5 movies
Had 2 copies of backup image of my laptop in both 500GB ext HDD when newly purchased a year earlier. Thats how careful I am in my backups. Only the HD Grade 5 movies cannot keep 2 copies....too many and too big...
u got come for TT??? may i copy yours HD movie? i only got 2 20gb de movie.. hope to get more
I got 4 external HDD for my backup files, 160GB, 500GB, 500GB and 1TB....
1 of the 500GB full of HD Grade 3 and 5 movies
Had 2 copies of backup image of my laptop in both 500GB ext HDD when newly purchased a year earlier. Thats how careful I am in my backups. Only the HD Grade 5 movies cannot keep 2 copies....too many and too big...
QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Sep 13 2011, 07:36 PM)
u got come for TT??? may i copy yours HD movie? i only got 2 20gb de movie.. hope to get more
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 13 2011, 07:37 PM)
U mean the grade 3 & 5 ones only rite?
Sorry to say but bro Cavino is not coming..
Why Orang Minyak so quick offline? Why u are not coming to Mega TT? Why? If the mountain won't go to Muhammad, Muhammad will go to the mountain. Cavino, mini TT at Klang?
I want to ask whether he is Jack Yap 84 or Jacky Ap(Duck) 84? Anyone?
Same la.. Bipolar disorder.. Jack Yap by day Jacky Ap by night..
Anyway, as a reminder..
We will be having a Mega TT at Pappa Rich Rampai Business Park this Friday, 16 September 2011 @ 8 p.m.. Please be punctual as we're leaving to Genting @ 9 p.m.. We shouldn't be leaving too late as I'm worried that visibility will be very bad, especially since it's the raining season now.
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 13 2011, 09:38 PM
Added on September 13, 2011, 8:03 pm u're verified & approved gay..
haha... i am NOT...
Added on September 13, 2011, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:09 PM)
I want to ask whether he is Jack Yap 84 or Jacky Ap(Duck) 84? Anyone?
alamak...
Added on September 13, 2011, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 13 2011, 09:37 PM)
Same la.. Bipolar disorder.. Jack Yap by day Jacky Ap by night..
Anyway, as a reminder..
We will be having a Mega TT at Pappa Rich Rampai Business Park this Friday, 16 September 2011 @ 8 p.m.. Please be punctual as we're leaving to Genting @ 9 p.m.. We shouldn't be leaving too late as I'm worried that visibility will be very bad, especially since it's the raining season now.
drive safe...
This post has been edited by jackyap84: Sep 13 2011, 09:39 PM
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Make me think twice before driving that Iswara, even if it's just for warming up the engine
Added on September 13, 2011, 12:19 am Cannot lah. 2moro working earlier to settle today's unfinished work. How also need to sleep more tonight. 1Malaysia here
wow that saga become smart for 2.
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Sep 13 2011, 11:22 AM)
Dang Dang Dang Dang~~Dorinyeah is back!!
First, is damn a lot pages to read, just skip V22 and start read V23. Congrats to those get Angpow Raya from uncle lim.
Come n update my FC to hat yai. Travel around 1530km and used around Rm170 petrol. Ramdomly mix between Petronas and Caltex, dun dare to wait only see caltex and pump. i found mix more petronas will give better FC, the lowest is 6.8L/100km for that tank with more Petronas fuel. This reading is real reading total KM/ total fuel(L), not read from indicator. From indicator i read is 6.1-6.2 but not accurate geh.
wah..around RM0.11/km onli..so save lo wat speed tat u drive?
Added on September 13, 2011, 11:32 am
so rich lo..but v plan to drive slow and convoy,isn't it?so no need so power lo :Psomemore ur car is manual,makan all of us ady
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 13 2011, 01:09 PM)
Haha.. he also brought RM50 here to play.. Won more than 200%.. Yeah.. There is this secret Zeng's formula in V22.. 55% Caltex, 45% Petronas for alomost no power loss and very good FC, or 55% Petronas and 45% Caltex for very good FC and slightly less powerful.. The latter suitable for highway cruising only.. The former is a better all rounder for city and highway driving.. Fuh.. Enough money for full tank Ron97..
Today skip work do passport.... Earned money from Zeng's Friend poker total RM110 petrol + passport ngam ngam. Went to Immigration at putrajaya, forgot to provide 1 card, go back home take. Then reach 9.30am hand in all document, wait 10~15 mins pay money, @ 45mins tak passport. DAMN lan 7 fast o less than an hours total. With more than 30 ppl waiting.
Nola... go Genting come back down ngam ngam can go service 30k liao. So pump RON 97 lo.
you sleep so early? mostly you sleep like about 2-3 am?
Tomorrow busy day mah..
QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Sep 13 2011, 10:25 PM)
Today skip work do passport.... Earned money from Zeng's Friend poker total RM110 petrol + passport ngam ngam. Went to Immigration at putrajaya, forgot to provide 1 card, go back home take. Then reach 9.30am hand in all document, wait 10~15 mins pay money, @ 45mins tak passport. DAMN lan 7 fast o less than an hours total. With more than 30 ppl waiting. Nola... go Genting come back down ngam ngam can go service 30k liao. So pump RON 97 lo.
MEGA TT 6.0 Date: 16th September 2011 Time: 8pm onwards. Meetup Place: Parking in front of Pappa Rich Rampai Business Court, then convoy up Genting. GPS Coordinate: 3.198985, 101.727680
Guys, it's been a while since we had a proper TT (last PROPER TT that we had was Mega TT V5.0 on the 14th May 2011 at Kayu Nasi Kandar, Aman Suria.), so I thought it might be a good idea to organize another TT on the 16th of September. It's a Friday and a public holiday, shouldn't be much of a problem for members to attend if they really want to and have the heart to do so.
What I meant by a proper TT? To be honest, we've had dozens of TTs and mini TTs, but new members rarely show up. It's as if their existence is purely fictional and they live only in the thread. The aim of this TT is to meet new members, share more knowledge about our dear Personas and have fun. Do not be intimidated by the use of English in this thread as we're a multi-racial community that speaks all sorts of language & dialects during TTs. (English, Malay, Cantonese, Hokkien, Mandarin, you name it.. I can speak Russian as well if you want me to. )
What are we going to do during the TT? Well the plan is actually to meet up at the parking lot by 8PM, and then we'll drive and bring our TT to Genting Highlands. Expecting around 10+ members to join this TT, but if it's less than that it's fine also.
Please RSVP for those who are coming!!
Attendees:
1. xandras - 1 car genting 2. ZenGTMM - 1 car genting 3. unknownhammie - 1 car genting 4. zapdos9 5. K.Lee - 1 car genting 6. samwongjyhhorng - 1 car genting 7. abong8 8. shelby_yong 9. UnTiDy_PeRsoNA 10. kiatsim86 - 1 car genting 11. ckdenion 12. pupumaru - 1 car genting 13. Fubar20 - 1 car genting 14. jasontantenghuat - 1 car genting 15. ngeo88 - 1 car genting 16. panje001 17. MovingMachine
New members are welcomed with open arms.. Awesome.. Now got 17 members ady.. Finally for the first TT we meet quota.. haha..
I have some suggestions to make here.. Since this TT is gonna be quite big this time.. I don't quite want it to be a sosej-fest just like how the previous TTs used to be. And since our only female member (phythia79) is no longer active (how sad), this never-ending chain of gay parade will never ever cease to exist.
The point that I'm trying to illustrate here is.. Bring ur chicks along!! try to bring ur gfs or friends along if possible.. This TT is open to all, & of course.. The more the merrier.. What do u guys think about this? Feedbacks pls
Added on September 13, 2011, 11:01 pm
QUOTE(MovingMachine @ Sep 13 2011, 10:58 PM)
Not yet for Persona club.
Then u go for what club?
Those who are first timers to TT, please PM either ZengTMM or me for our phone numbers to make sure things are carried out smoothly.
This post has been edited by xandras: Sep 13 2011, 11:03 PM
A drive RM 220 very overkill Liao. C drive 2 is the SUCCESSOR to C drive.. So in a way it's slightly better.. But still not worth the RM 245.. I long time never go follow tyre price d.. Must go get the list from my fren.
hmm...no wor. even CC5 is RM240 also. @@ its due to the price hike of tyre so wats the price u think?? the tyre shop said that the most expensive would be michelin @ RM270 per piece.
hmm...no wor. even CC5 is RM240 also. @@ its due to the price hike of tyre so wats the price u think?? the tyre shop said that the most expensive would be michelin @ RM270 per piece.
i changed mine at service center charged at RM290.
SC offer very high. so i changed it outside. For the original proton one he priced me RM380 for GP brand (made in korea) he offer me Rm320. when i go outside tyres shop to change the sell the GP brand at RM280. btw, ur battery also kong??
This post has been edited by jasonloh7906: Sep 14 2011, 01:16 AM
Yesterday one day trip to penang, just back home 12:30am, RM70 full tank of Esso ron95 reach Bayan Lepas still remain 65km to blink, total 412km on meter avrage fc 8.2l/100km on meter, 10:30am start from damansara reach Bayan lepas 2:00pm all the way min 120km/h max 180km/h most the time set auto cruse at 140km/h on the way see army force convoy despatch 10 trailer of highly explosive material on the road with their MP and traffic police [attachmentid=2434124] [attachmentid=2434125] i wounder why this kind of danger material and the huge amout delive by road if any accident happeng sure a big desaster
8:15pm back from Bayan Lepas all the way min100km/h max160km/h due to raining when arriving Ipoh until Benam Jaya refuel at Bayan Lepas with Caltex Ron95 Rm62 till now still have 112km to blink fc avaerage 7.6l/100km on meter, these figure proof that Caltex really the best for PE or might be night time plus raning environment temperature not as heat as day time so it make the FC better.
Btw just found that use auto cruse to pick up more powerful and fast that by manual press on pedal , exp: set auto cruse at 140km/h but not activate and speed at 100km/h, once activate the auto cruse, it will pick up and really feel the push to 140km/h in 2 sec with no down gear, if off auto cruse and make it by pressing pedal sure the gear will down then only reach 140km/h in 4sec. dunno how the auto cruse increas speed it was amazing.
The handling of PE for all corner on wet or dry are superb and confortable, i don't feel tired afterm one day trip long driving hour till now, the NVH still remain good at 140km/h after that the enginge raww are noticeable increase and wind noise start appear.
Added on September 14, 2011, 3:40 am
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 13 2011, 11:14 PM)
haiz his skills.. =.=.. My heart rate is higher than his car RPM.. and my blood pressure is also higher then his speed..
Yesterday one day trip to penang, just back home 12:30am, RM70 full tank of Esso ron95 reach Bayan Lepas still remain 65km to blink, total 412km on meter avrage fc 8.2l/100km on meter, 10:30am start from damansara reach Bayan lepas 2:00pm all the way min 120km/h max 180km/h most the time set auto cruse at 140km/h on the way see army force convoy despatch 10 trailer of highly explosive material on the road with their MP and traffic police [attachmentid=2434124] [attachmentid=2434125] i wounder why this kind of danger material and the huge amout delive by road if any accident happeng sure a big desaster
8:15pm back from Bayan Lepas all the way min100km/h max160km/h due to raining when arriving Ipoh until Benam Jaya refuel at Bayan Lepas with Caltex Ron95 Rm62 till now still have 112km to blink fc avaerage 7.6l/100km on meter, these figure proof that Caltex really the best for PE or might be night time plus raning environment temperature not as heat as day time so it make the FC better.
Btw just found that use auto cruse to pick up more powerful and fast that by manual press on pedal , exp: set auto cruse at 140km/h but not activate and speed at 100km/h, once activate the auto cruse, it will pick up and really feel the push to 140km/h in 2 sec with no down gear, if off auto cruse and make it by pressing pedal sure the gear will down then only reach 140km/h in 4sec. dunno how the auto cruse increas speed it was amazing.
The handling of PE for all corner on wet or dry are superb and confortable, i don't feel tired afterm one day trip long driving hour till now, the NVH still remain good at 140km/h after that the enginge raww are noticeable increase and wind noise start appear.
I got 4 external HDD for my backup files, 160GB, 500GB, 500GB and 1TB....
1 of the 500GB full of HD Grade 3 and 5 movies
Had 2 copies of backup image of my laptop in both 500GB ext HDD when newly purchased a year earlier. Thats how careful I am in my backups. Only the HD Grade 5 movies cannot keep 2 copies....too many and too big...
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Sep 13 2011, 11:14 PM)
haiz his skills.. =.=.. My heart rate is higher than his car RPM.. and my blood pressure is also higher then his speed..
Added on September 13, 2011, 11:15 pm Bring more lah.. 250 at least.. Huat huat ah!!
hey guys... who ever know the owner of PE staying in tmn puncak kinrara bronze garnet b-line, pls inform him his car kena banged at the rear. the car was there for weeks and i dun think the owner is around. kinda sad as the damage is significantly visible. huhu, btw there's 3 PE at the same block must get to know their owner.
I don't gamble, just play for fun..usual RM50~100 max.
same as me
Added on September 14, 2011, 10:43 am
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Sep 14 2011, 02:48 AM)
Yesterday one day trip to penang, just back home 12:30am, RM70 full tank of Esso ron95 reach Bayan Lepas still remain 65km to blink, total 412km on meter avrage fc 8.2l/100km on meter, 10:30am start from damansara reach Bayan lepas 2:00pm all the way min 120km/h max 180km/h most the time set auto cruse at 140km/h on the way see army force convoy despatch 10 trailer of highly explosive material on the road with their MP and traffic police [attachmentid=2434124] [attachmentid=2434125] i wounder why this kind of danger material and the huge amout delive by road if any accident happeng sure a big desaster
8:15pm back from Bayan Lepas all the way min100km/h max160km/h due to raining when arriving Ipoh until Benam Jaya refuel at Bayan Lepas with Caltex Ron95 Rm62 till now still have 112km to blink fc avaerage 7.6l/100km on meter, these figure proof that Caltex really the best for PE or might be night time plus raning environment temperature not as heat as day time so it make the FC better.
Btw just found that use auto cruse to pick up more powerful and fast that by manual press on pedal , exp: set auto cruse at 140km/h but not activate and speed at 100km/h, once activate the auto cruse, it will pick up and really feel the push to 140km/h in 2 sec with no down gear, if off auto cruse and make it by pressing pedal sure the gear will down then only reach 140km/h in 4sec. dunno how the auto cruse increas speed it was amazing.
The handling of PE for all corner on wet or dry are superb and confortable, i don't feel tired afterm one day trip long driving hour till now, the NVH still remain good at 140km/h after that the enginge raww are noticeable increase and wind noise start appear.
wat means for set auto cruise at 140kmh but not activate?bcoz auto cruise onli will function once u push down the button lo..exp:when u cruising 120kmh,then u push down button then it will set at 120kmh..it will auto de-activate when u apply the brake or u disable the auto cruise..so how u set at 140kmh but without activate,then when u drive 100kmh then can set to 140kmh
This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Sep 14 2011, 10:43 AM
wat means for set auto cruise at 140kmh but not activate?bcoz auto cruise onli will function once u push down the button lo..exp:when u cruising 120kmh,then u push down button then it will set at 120kmh..it will auto de-activate when u apply the brake or u disable the auto cruise..so how u set at 140kmh but without activate,then when u drive 100kmh then can set to 140kmh
yalah you set 140km/h it turn green means it activate, if you press break it turn amber means not activate but your previous set 140km/h still in memory once you push up it will shoot up to the 140km/h earlier in the memory try it, it is shock ....it will only cancle the memory if you off the auto cruise (no auto cruse indicator light when turn off)
Added on September 14, 2011, 11:02 am
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 14 2011, 10:30 AM)
No lah.. 6 plus I at office d I ask anyone that reply in the thread lah.. I dun remember the tt list wan lah.. Quite true..
why so early ? what time you start work 5:30am you really head of security
This post has been edited by ngeo88: Sep 14 2011, 11:02 AM
yalah you set 140km/h it turn green means it activate, if you press break it turn amber means not activate but your previous set 140km/h still in memory once you push up it will shoot up to the 140km/h earlier in the memory try it, it is shock ....it will only cancle the memory if you off the auto cruise (no auto cruse indicator light when turn off)
Added on September 14, 2011, 11:02 am why so early ? what time you start work 5:30am you really head of security
oic..got tis feature ar..wanna try if got chance..anyway,ur FC is very good..
yalah you set 140km/h it turn green means it activate, if you press break it turn amber means not activate but your previous set 140km/h still in memory once you push up it will shoot up to the 140km/h earlier in the memory try it, it is shock ....it will only cancle the memory if you off the auto cruise (no auto cruse indicator light when turn off)
Added on September 14, 2011, 11:02 am why so early ? what time you start work 5:30am you really head of security
Never got chance to use auto cruise. I thought push up is to cancel? Very dangerous lo if accidently push up.
SC offer very high. so i changed it outside. For the original proton one he priced me RM380 for GP brand (made in korea) he offer me Rm320. when i go outside tyres shop to change the sell the GP brand at RM280. btw, ur battery also kong??
ya... 1 year 4 months then gong already...
Added on September 14, 2011, 11:38 am
QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Sep 14 2011, 11:20 AM)
cancle is pull to front ...
when in active mode (indicating green)
push up = accelerate push down = deaccelerate press brake or pull front deactivate
when in deactivate mode (indicating amber)
push up = activate as per previous setting push down = set current speed and activate pull front = cancle previous setting
but it will only activate when your speed more than 60km/h.
i seldom use auto cruse, i think just 1 time only since i got my car up to day...
This post has been edited by jackyap84: Sep 14 2011, 11:38 AM
yalah you set 140km/h it turn green means it activate, if you press break it turn amber means not activate but your previous set 140km/h still in memory once you push up it will shoot up to the 140km/h earlier in the memory try it, it is shock ....it will only cancle the memory if you off the auto cruise (no auto cruse indicator light when turn off)
Added on September 14, 2011, 11:02 am why so early ? what time you start work 5:30am you really head of security
Start work at 9. Came office to 'zhap sau mei'. This few days OT a lot. Ya lah, low rank security guard ma..
hey guys... who ever know the owner of PE staying in tmn puncak kinrara bronze garnet b-line, pls inform him his car kena banged at the rear. the car was there for weeks and i dun think the owner is around. kinda sad as the damage is significantly visible. huhu, btw there's 3 PE at the same block must get to know their owner.
Eh u also staying in tmn puncak kinrara ah? me staying nearby there too..
QUOTE(xandras @ Sep 14 2011, 11:59 AM)
ya lo.. My basic salary 600 Nia every month.. OT also get 650 only..
LPPL..
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Sep 14 2011, 03:09 PM)
GTR!!
lol.. All kena tapau nicely.. Awesome GT-R.. Now waiting to get one for myself.. hehehe..
Ya lah.. So many times somemore.. Kecian me... Eh u also staying in tmn puncak kinrara ah? me staying nearby there too.. LPPL.. lol.. All kena tapau nicely.. Awesome GT-R.. Now waiting to get one for myself.. hehehe..
Ya lah.. So many times somemore.. Kecian me... Eh u also staying in tmn puncak kinrara ah? me staying nearby there too.. LPPL.. lol.. All kena tapau nicely.. Awesome GT-R.. Now waiting to get one for myself.. hehehe..
QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:11 PM)
another one for me...
dun forget me!! then we can move to Nissan GTR club
im staying in the flat B6.... wahahaha where u staying?
B6?? hahaha... Sounds like banker will pay u only half.. LOL..
Erm not sure where is that.. Im staying nearby the Esso along Jalan Puncak Jalil..
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:30 PM)
Wah! So many dreaming at this hour.
Daydreaming mah.. Never heard it b4? U need to aim high and set a standard for urself to adavance in life mah.. Its not impossible for a rags to riches story, as much as from riches to rags too.. yin yang is very alive in our lifes..
This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Sep 14 2011, 04:36 PM
B6?? hahaha... Sounds like banker will pay u only half.. LOL..
Erm not sure where is that.. Im staying nearby the Esso along Jalan Puncak Jalil.. Daydreaming mah.. Never heard it b4? U need to aim high and set a standard for urself to adavance in life mah.. Its not impossible for a rags to riches story, as much as from riches to rags too.. yin yang is very alive in our lifes..
Sure heard it b4. Only funny that got 3 fellas who are dreaming the same thing at the same time. Uh, What does yin yang have to do with this?
auto version cannot mod up to 1.2kwhp la... i heard manual is limited version, hard to get.
Done by AMSPerformace ady.. They need to do a lot of modding in the auto box.. Souping it up a lot, fully custom torque converter somemore.. Check out the Alpha packages, especially the Alpha 12 package, 1500bhp, 1200whp..
Added on September 14, 2011, 4:43 pm
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:40 PM)
Sure heard it b4. Only funny that got 3 fellas who are dreaming the same thing at the same time. Uh, What does yin yang have to do with this?
When somebody gets rich, somebody else have to get poor at the same time right? So when i get a GTR.. Somebody would have contributed indirectly to my salary or business so I could untung and buy it.
This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Sep 14 2011, 04:43 PM
Done by AMSPerformace ady.. They need to do a lot of modding in the auto box.. Souping it up a lot, fully custom torque converter somemore.. Check out the Alpha packages, especially the Alpha 12 package, 1500bhp, 1200whp..
Added on September 14, 2011, 4:43 pm When somebody gets rich, somebody else have to get poor at the same time right? So when i get a GTR.. Somebody would have contributed indirectly to my salary or business so I could untung and buy it.
this one?
i think ori 500+ hp is more than enough for me lor...
i think ori 500+ hp is more than enough for me lor...
Nope that one still quite slow..
for me 500whp also enough, but at least i want to know that Johor sultan's Bugatti Veyron will be running a combination of johor air and my 1.2k whp GTR smoke particles..
for me 500whp also enough, but at least i want to know that Johor sultan's Bugatti Veyron will be running a combination of johor air and my 1.2k whp GTR smoke particles..
This is Auto GTR?
everyday drive ur 1.2k whp GTR n park in front Johor istana, wait sultan drive his Veyron.... or every morning 3-4am, drag GTR, rev 11k rpm in front istana road....
go "lao" sultan to race....
This post has been edited by dorinyeah: Sep 14 2011, 05:07 PM
Done by AMSPerformace ady.. They need to do a lot of modding in the auto box.. Souping it up a lot, fully custom torque converter somemore.. Check out the Alpha packages, especially the Alpha 12 package, 1500bhp, 1200whp..
Added on September 14, 2011, 4:43 pm When somebody gets rich, somebody else have to get poor at the same time right? So when i get a GTR.. Somebody would have contributed indirectly to my salary or business so I could untung and buy it.
Not really. That thinking of it is on an extreme level like to be white, there have to be an opposite black. No middle ground or grey areas.In real life, a few middle class can contribute to the rich without them being exactly poor.
Added on September 14, 2011, 5:06 pm
QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Sep 14 2011, 04:58 PM)
u miss out another 0.. haha.. RM6000 plus OT RM500 = RM6500.. with this salary, able to tank 1 house, 1 persona and go "sek fung"..
Eat anything also can. You coming to Mega TT?
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Sep 14 2011, 05:01 PM)
everyday drive ur 1.2k whp GTR n park in front Johor istana, wait sultan drive his Veyron.... or every morning 3-4am, drag GTR, rev 11k rpm in front istana road....
go "lao" sultan to race....
You think sultan so free to layan you meh.
This post has been edited by Fubar20: Sep 14 2011, 05:06 PM
everyday drive ur 1.2k whp GTR n park in front Johor istana, wait sultan drive his Veyron.... or every morning 3-4am, drag GTR, rev 11k rpm in front istana road....
go "lao" sultan to race....
lol the istana road very small and windy.. its a 2 lane road but its just ngam ngam for 2 cars only..
QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:02 PM)
Not really. That thinking of it is on an extreme level like to be white, there have to be an opposite black. No middle ground or grey areas.In real life, a few middle class can contribute to the rich without them being exactly poor.
Yeha true also.. But the constant increase in prices of neccessity goods will burden the low income a lot.. And those middle income will want to have a lifestyle that would set them back quite a lot too..
Not really. That thinking of it is on an extreme level like to be white, there have to be an opposite black. No middle ground or grey areas.In real life, a few middle class can contribute to the rich without them being exactly poor.
Added on September 14, 2011, 5:06 pm Eat anything also can. You coming to Mega TT? You think sultan so free to layan you meh.
Personally i think sultan is d*** F***ing free!!! He is born to be rich, just hire ppl to do all his work, wipe his ass...