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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Liverpool 2 -1 Wolves : LS7 scored again

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LukeMjstc
post Sep 2 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 2 2011, 03:02 PM)
just to refresh your memory here.
last season we conceded 44 goals...before that 35.
our best season where we finished 2nd, only 27 goals...and we all know the lineup during then.
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Of course, we've the best DM at tat time - Mascherano.

Just to add on, I hope you realise who's coaching us in the first half of last season... tongue.gif

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post Sep 2 2011, 05:39 PM

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Happy birthday to the late bill.Without him liverpool wont be what it is today.

About the lucas gerrard thing,i dont think kenny himself for now knows where exactly to play gerrard because he hasnt started training and to what extent the injuries have affected his abilities.I dunno where gerrard is gonna fit in but lucas must definitely start.Most likely gerrard is gonna replace adam or henderson.I cant see him playing AM because suarez is playing support striker and our current formation doesnt allow an extra midfielder.

Anyway it's good to see that we can play and win games without him.But a fit and firing gerrard could be the difference between top 4 finish and league challenge.

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post Sep 2 2011, 06:38 PM

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Gerrard best position is Attacking Midfielder, He can pass(pin point) left or right to either Bellamy or Downing to do the killer punch.
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post Sep 2 2011, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(LukeMjstc @ Sep 2 2011, 02:59 PM)
TBH, Gerrard's defensive skills are kinda reckless... The most I remember abt him was chasing back and do a sliding tackle whenever he lost a man...

Tat's why I don't really think he fit the shoe as a DM... He can play as Xabi Alonso, but not Lucas. As far as I am concerned, without Lucas, our rather weak defensive line should've conceded hell lots of goals.
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Xabi Alonso didnt depends on sliding tackle , it is his skills in controlling the ball and reading opponent movement that control the game tempo and break up opponent counter attack.

I still remember he was so good until few opponents player have to be sent off , Joey Barton , Vidic , Lampard ,Cahill
QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 2 2011, 03:02 PM)
just to refresh your memory here.
last season we conceded 44 goals...before that 35.
our best season where we finished 2nd, only 27 goals...and we all know the lineup during then.
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you can see we concede more in pre season without Lucas playing.
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:00 PM

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with the latest signings, we will concede the least amount of goals ...........
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 2 2011, 06:38 PM)
Gerrard best position is Attacking Midfielder, He can pass(pin point) left or right to either Bellamy or Downing to do the killer punch.
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If we want to play gerrard as attacking midfielder then we might have to change our formation and maybe drop caroll.
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 2 2011, 07:01 PM)
If we want to play gerrard as attacking midfielder then we might have to change our formation and maybe drop caroll.
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from wat i see, Carroll is best use a super sub. like Ole Gunnar Solskjær when the opponent is tired and Carroll runs and shots can "kill" them
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 2 2011, 07:01 PM)
If we want to play gerrard as attacking midfielder then we might have to change our formation and maybe drop caroll.
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this coming match against Stoke , I think Suarez will start ahead of Carroll. Watched highlights how Suarez outplayed Zat Knight last week and Hangeland last season , and he was very good playing against tall defenders.
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 2 2011, 07:06 PM)
from wat i see, Carroll is best use a super sub. like Ole Gunnar Solskjær when the opponent is tired and Carroll runs and shots can "kill" them
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You gotta point,but the two words in bold are not synonymous at all. tongue.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 2 2011, 03:53 PM)
everytime i mention, where are all the Lucas fans who were screaming for him to be unleashed as an attacking midfielder during rafa's time are...and they all saying how Rafa is wasting his talents by playing in a defensive role...they all go quiet.
no need to hide the fact that there were lots of guys here posting videos of how Lucas was a very good attacking midfielder in brazil...but the sad truth is once he arrives here the pace of the game doesnt give Lucas any time to create anything...
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Here's the thing. In the post I've mentioned, the 'fellow in Rio' actually is a Flamengo supporter, not Gremio and he saw that even in Gremio, Lucas was the DM instead of the AM.

The one thing that interests me is the fact that in Gremio, Lucas played in a line further up front (not as deep as he is now in Liverpool), but i'll take the word of a South American Brazilian because they definitely know their game and their man in their game better than us (though Lucas is now in a game that we all can be familiar with)

Added on September 2, 2011, 7:13 pm
QUOTE(leaF @ Sep 2 2011, 07:53 PM)
Xabi Alonso didnt depends on sliding tackle , it is his skills in controlling the ball and reading opponent movement that control the game tempo and break up opponent counter attack.

I still remember he was so good until few opponents player have to be sent off , Joey Barton , Vidic , Lampard ,Cahill

you can see we concede more in pre season without Lucas playing.
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2 person comes into mind when it comes to conceding least; Daniel Agger [main] and Lucas. Or so Paul Tomkins thought.

Added on September 2, 2011, 7:16 pmand before I forgot, a toast to the great man, Bill Shankly.

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post Sep 2 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 2 2011, 07:09 PM)
You gotta point,but the two words in bold are not synonymous at all. tongue.gif
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wat i meant was , Carroll's run and shoot will surely kill them or rather puncture the opponent's net , i like to see Carroll run and shoot than see him do some headings biggrin.gif
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post Sep 2 2011, 08:24 PM

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If Gerrard no play also I dun mind!
I think he should be looking at a change of career, coaching/managing?
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post Sep 2 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 2 2011, 08:24 PM)
If Gerrard no play also I dun mind!
I think he should be looking at a change of career, coaching/managing?
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Haha with Stevie G inside the first eleven, that would be great of course as its steadier i must say =)
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post Sep 2 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 2 2011, 05:04 PM)
Happy birthday Bill.

Gone but not forgotten.
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was about to post that. well, the only regret i have as a liv fan, is that i was born in this generation and not during bill's time. if only i could have got the chance to feel inspired by him and unique relation that he built between players and fans especially. pure class. notworthy.gif

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post Sep 2 2011, 09:53 PM

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Lets just wait n see...I think KD will not rush him into starting lineup...

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post Sep 2 2011, 09:53 PM

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Even if SG recovers completely, and assuming that KD knows the right way to use him, KD should not bring him back immediately. He should come in as a 2nd half sub to give the team a different dimension of play and to offset the opposition.

Honestly though, looking at the way KD is rebuilding the team, I will not be too surprised if SG's playing days with LFC may be numbered. SG is such an extraordinary player that if he cannot get back to his extraordinary style of play, he may actually become a bit of a liability.

Sigh..not a very nice thing to ponder, but that's life..

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post Sep 2 2011, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 2 2011, 07:32 PM)
wat i meant was , Carroll's run and shoot will surely kill them or rather puncture the opponent's net , i like to see Carroll run and shoot than see him do some headings biggrin.gif
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I hope Carroll can improve. Would be great! biggrin.gif

If he can do like a "Berbatov", would be great
but not with the time-line and the treatment he get now

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guys, I just went to google about the history of Bill Shankly. when i read the articles that i found, my hair stood on ends and i actually felt a bit choked as though tears was about to flow. really terharu and so ashamed that i havnt read this sooner (being a liverpool fan for as long as i remember). for those who doesnt know much about Shanks, i suggest you take 10 minutes and google this. its really.. ahh words cant describe it.. only sad to know that i didnt know all this stuff earlier.. go read up on Shanks on his birthday guys smile.gif

and HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILL SHANKLY!!!! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 2 2011, 05:04 PM)
Happy birthday Bill.

Gone but not forgotten.
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post Sep 3 2011, 12:11 AM

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Bill Shankly when asked how he would like to be remembered:

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"That I've been basically honest in a game in which it is sometimes difficult to be honest. Sometimes you‘ve got to tell a little white lie to get over a little troublesome period of time. I'd like to think that I have put more into the game than I have taken out. And that I haven‘t cheated anybody, that I've been working for people honestly all along the line, for the people of Liverpool who go to Anfield. I'd like to be recognised for trying to give them entertainment.

I'd played at Anfield and I knew the crowd were fantastic. I knew there was a public just waiting. So I fought the battles inside and outside. I was interested in only one thing, success for the club. And that meant success for the people. I wanted results for the club, for the love of the game, to make the people happy."


http://www.shankly.com/
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