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post Aug 24 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 01:15 PM)
10 years ago. Meaning right after uni? They had the graduate PR scheme. It indeed was a lot easier then.
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Yeah, right after Uni. It was so much easier and no IELTS required.

I did all the application myself and got my PR in 2 months. Things were much simpler back then.
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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 12:24 AM)
Actually I think I'm eligible as long as I get that 60 points. The 2 years study thing has been changed and now contributes 5 points instead of being a requirement. The only thing is that, I would need an IELTS of 8 to get 60 points.

It still is a requirement for graduate visa though.
When your friends applied for PR? Was it recently?
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you are lucky because of this changes. I finished my study 1.6 years and i can't get PR independently :/

most of my friends got it last year and the latest was 2 weeks ago. He has a family here with disabled daughter and were holding TR. he won't get a pr because of his daughter's case but he risked it and granted with PR after 2 months. he is now a happy man
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post Aug 24 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 24 2012, 02:43 PM)
you are lucky because of this changes. I finished my study 1.6 years and i can't get PR independently :/

most of my friends got it last year and the latest was 2 weeks ago. He has a family here with disabled daughter and were holding TR. he won't get a pr because of his daughter's case but he risked it and granted with PR after 2 months. he is now a happy man
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Sigh, I'm not sure if I should apply...
$$ at risk

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post Aug 24 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 02:50 PM)
Sigh, I'm not sure if I should apply...
$$ at risk

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If you really plan to stay here, I think is worth a bet! The best is to consult an agent, they are more experience!

By the way, I had my IELTS is Australia for $330, IELTS in Malaysia cost around RM700, why yours are more expensive? Is it different state different price?
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Aug 24 2012, 02:59 PM)
If you really plan to stay here, I think is worth a bet! The best is to consult an agent, they are more experience!

By the way, I had my IELTS is Australia for $330, IELTS in Malaysia cost around RM700, why yours are more expensive? Is it different state different price?
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I was told I should also take a 1-2 day intensive course which will teach me about the structures & formats etc on how to answer, do you think I should take it? Its about A$90

And what are the chances of getting PR?
I still have to wait for my skills to be assessed, then lodge an expression of interest, which would probably take the immigration some time too right?

I graduate by December 2012 and visa expires in March 2013
I do not plan to return if I don't get a job (sponsored) by January, I plan to go back for CNY (Feb)

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 05:13 PM)
I was told I should also take a 1-2 day intensive course which will teach me about the structures & formats etc on how to answer, do you think I should take it? Its about A$90

And what are the chances of getting PR?
I still have to wait for my skills to be assessed, then lodge an expression of interest, which would probably take the immigration some time too right?

I graduate by December 2012 and visa expires in March 2013
I do not plan to return if I don't get a job (sponsored) by January, I plan to go back for CNY (Feb)
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wait, so you will apply after january 2013(when skillselect kick in)? if so, then you won't get bridging visa for skillselect. you will need to wait in malaysia for the answer once your student visa has expired

if you apply before january 2013 then you will get bridging visa and can start looking for job or go back for CNY(if you haven't get a job)

what is your skill/occupation? the chance of getting PR is actually very high if you met all the requirements, have good characteristic(in australia and malaysia) and health(not sure how this works) but not sure in skillselect

you can seek advice from many immigration agent for free too

i would advice you to go for PR fi you met all the basic requirements


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post Aug 24 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 03:13 PM)
I was told I should also take a 1-2 day intensive course which will teach me about the structures & formats etc on how to answer, do you think I should take it? Its about A$90

And what are the chances of getting PR?
I still have to wait for my skills to be assessed, then lodge an expression of interest, which would probably take the immigration some time too right?

I graduate by December 2012 and visa expires in March 2013
I do not plan to return if I don't get a job (sponsored) by January, I plan to go back for CNY (Feb)
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No idea for chances of getting PR for your case since I am not an expert!

For normal user, shouldn't be a problem to score between 7 - 7.5. If English is your mother tongue, shouldnt be a prob for average 8 or above especially for those who studied here! What band do you need to score?

For the structures and formats, I think you can get from your friends. It is good for you to know some technique rather then walking to the exam hall without any preparation. My friend gave me a lot of sample & pass year (softcopy), sadly the files are too big. If you really need it, I can send some to you.
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post Aug 24 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 24 2012, 03:26 PM)
wait, so you will apply after january 2013(when skillselect kick in)? if so, then you won't get bridging visa for skillselect. you will need to wait in malaysia for the answer once your student visa has expired

if you apply before january 2013 then you will get bridging visa and can start looking for job or go back for CNY(if you haven't get a job)

what is your skill/occupation? the chance of getting PR is actually very high if you met all the requirements, have good characteristic(in australia and malaysia) and health(not sure how this works) but not sure in skillselect

you can seek advice from many immigration agent for free too

i would advice you to go for PR fi you met all the basic requirements
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Really? Actually I was told that the chances are extremely low.
Also, I do plan to apply my EOI BEFORE 2013

BUT I would need to have my skills assessed, and this can only be done AFTER I graduate which is 15 December.
AND I was told that they would processing it extremely slow as its the christmas and new year season.

I need to get my skills assessed I apply my EOI iirc. =\

QUOTE(tatagal @ Aug 24 2012, 03:26 PM)
No idea for chances of getting PR for your case since I am not an expert!

For normal user, shouldn't be a problem to score between 7 - 7.5. If English is your mother tongue, shouldnt be a prob for average 8 or above especially for those who studied here! What band do you need to score?

For the structures and formats, I think you can get from your friends. It is good for you to know some technique rather then walking to the exam hall without any preparation. My friend gave me a lot of sample & pass year (softcopy), sadly the files are too big. If you really need it, I can send some to you.
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I don't have any friends who took the IELTS recently, so I guess I should take a short workshop about it.
I do have friends that took it a year ago and I was told that the workshop would prove helpful, they forgot the structures, formats/techniques though.
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post Aug 24 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 07:08 AM)
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/

All state sponsored (visa 176) and general skilled migration (visa 175) PR has moved to Skill Select (http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/). Under the new Skill Select there are still a few options.

Visa 189 replaces the old GSM (visa 175). You still need to get nominated to be able to apply for PR but you are not required to state in any specific state.

Visa 190 replaces the old state sponsorship (visa 176). You need to stay for 2 years in the nominated territory/state.

Both costs AUD3060.
I think I'm applying for Visa 189. But my agent says I should get a state sponsorship with that visa, apparently it'll increase my chances. I don't even know if that makes any sense. And they're charging me AUD1200 for that. Really unsure where that figure comes from.

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And regarding IELTS, I did mine in British Council Malaysia. If you register online, you get a free online course so you can get acquainted with the format. I scored an 8 (I'm a native English speaker). I did find that the test was pretty tricky though.
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its funny..u pay ur agent..for their services, imo u should asked them for more info if you are in doubt..


QUOTE(mark @ Aug 24 2012, 06:36 PM)
I think I'm applying for Visa 189. But my agent says I should get a state sponsorship with that visa, apparently it'll increase my chances. I don't even know if that makes any sense. And they're charging me AUD1200 for that. Really unsure where that figure comes from.

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And regarding IELTS, I did mine in British Council Malaysia. If you register online, you get a free online course so you can get acquainted with the format. I scored an 8 (I'm a native English speaker). I did find that the test was pretty tricky though.
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post Aug 24 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Aug 24 2012, 06:39 PM)
its funny..u pay ur agent..for their services, imo u should asked them for more info if you are in doubt..
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haha, that's true. but at this point i'm not 100% sure if they're telling me the truth/trying to help me or they're just trying to con me out of more money sad.gif
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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 12:42 PM)
I just took my General IELTS and I have got 8.5. But then again, English is my first language. Another friend of mine is Chinese educated and his English is decent, he got a 8.5 too (which is a little surprising). Yet another friend whose first language is English too scored an 8.

Honestly, I don't think it's too difficult. I did mine in Australia though. Average Malaysian's English I would say is around 7.5-8. Just cut down on the "lahs" and "mahs" etc during speaking exams.
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Let me dig out the ielts reply i did in the ielts thread a while ago... there. this should help...
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Anyways just practise on a lot of questions, especially for the reading and writing part.

Anyways, FYI for those who are travelling to aus and arriving on or after 1 sept 2012, please note the travel concessions for cigarettes has been reduced from 250 cigs /grams to 50 cigs/grams
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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 06:24 PM)
Really? Actually I was told that the chances are extremely low.
Also, I do plan to apply my EOI BEFORE 2013

BUT I would need to have my skills assessed, and this can only be done AFTER I graduate which is 15 December.
AND I was told that they would processing it extremely slow as its the christmas and new year season.

I need to get my skills assessed I apply my EOI iirc. =\
I don't have any friends who took the IELTS recently, so I guess I should take a short workshop about it.
I do have friends that took it a year ago and I was told that the workshop would prove helpful, they forgot the structures, formats/techniques though.
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you should start submit skill assessment immediately once you received the transcript but yeah xmas holiday and starts of EOI will definitely slow things up. everyone rushing up for application as well
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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 24 2012, 08:13 PM)
haha, that's true. but at this point i'm not 100% sure if they're telling me the truth/trying to help me or they're just trying to con me out of more money sad.gif
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Most of the migration agencies will only charge you the agent fees when your PR application is approved. If your application failed, they will have to refund you fully. You better check that out with your agency. AUD1200 is kind of cheap compared to other agencies that I know. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Aug 26 2012, 07:53 PM)
Most of the migration agencies will only charge you the agent fees when your PR application is approved. If your application failed, they will have to refund you fully. You better check that out with your agency. AUD1200 is kind of cheap compared to other agencies that I know. hmm.gif
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I'm actually being charged a total of RM20k++ for everything. I believe most migration agencies also charge around this price?

But now, on top of the RM20k, they wanna charge another AUD1.2k for the "state sponsorship" thingie. So not sure if paying that extra is actually worth it or not sad.gif
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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 26 2012, 09:31 PM)
I'm actually being charged a total of RM20k++ for everything. I believe most migration agencies also charge around this price?

But now, on top of the RM20k, they wanna charge another AUD1.2k for the "state sponsorship" thingie. So not sure if paying that extra is actually worth it or not  sad.gif
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20k = Mega ripoff. Considering I certify and fill out all the docs for my friends for free and walk them through the process as well.

It's not hard really, just save your dosh and DIY.
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I would like to hear some opinions from guys here.

As for SkillSelect scheme, skill assessment, for them to inspect my current work,
I'm pretty much apply through skillselect, as my application would be late after Jan 2013.

I prepare the work thesis that regarding on the details of experience on my current job?

Or just some simple stuff.
I apply through agent in AU, cause i have relatives there.
I'm quite confused with the procedures for SkillSelect

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QUOTE(Stefanov @ Aug 27 2012, 11:09 AM)
I would like to hear some opinions from guys here.

As for SkillSelect scheme, skill assessment, for them to inspect my current work,
I'm pretty much apply through skillselect, as my application would be late after Jan 2013.

I prepare the work thesis that regarding on the details of experience on my current job?

Or just some simple stuff.
I apply through agent in AU, cause i have relatives there.
I'm quite confused with the procedures for SkillSelect
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I went to the DIAC + EngAus workshop in Brisbane a few weeks back. Not really because I need migration advice but because there's free food and I want teman kawan. Mang I'm cheap!

Either way Skills Select works like this,

You make an application and submit all your documents and you're given calculated points on the spot. The system is based off meritocracy, meaning if you have 60 points and old mate has 100, he'll go first through the processing line. So if your points aren't high you can wait for a very long time. Remember that skills select has no minimum service period and is capped by quota, so you'll want as many points as possible.

You can jump the line if employers view your profile and wish to sponsor you, so having extra skills that relate to industry is quite important. Protip : A first aid cert is pretty much mandatory for people wanting an OnG or mining job.

There's no need for a 100 page work thesis. A simple letter from your employer, relating to
- Your time at the workplace
- Your position
- Your general responsibilities
- Your skills and examples of work

Which comes up to about 2 pages is more than enough. Most importantly the manager must be contactable by the DIAC.

Remember that eg; There are 100 places for a year, and there are 100 people with higher points than you, you will NOT get through.

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Hi guys, I've been turned down a couple of times during interview because I do not hold a PR/citizen status.


If I submit my EOI, would it be possible for my employer to specifically pick me?
In other words, sponsor me BUT not going through the employer-sponsored visa?
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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 27 2012, 07:06 PM)
Hi guys, I've been turned down a couple of times during interview because I do not hold a PR/citizen status.
If I submit my EOI, would it be possible for my employer to specifically pick me?
In other words, sponsor me BUT not going through the employer-sponsored visa?
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EOI is nothing. what they really looking for is you holding PR/citizen. even a bridging doesn't means anything

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