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tatagal
post Aug 22 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Aug 22 2012, 03:52 PM)
Thanks.
That's what my friend told me. If the address and number on the resume is not in Oz, they won't entertain.
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Bravo rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Is true that it is slightly easier to get a job if your address and phone number is in OZ. Since you get your PR approved, it means that they are still lack of experties like you in Australia. There are still chances! May I know what job are you looking for and in which part of Australia?
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post Aug 22 2012, 04:54 PM

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not to say easy, but will have some response..as they will call your Oz no and get more details..
whether will get a job or not, it will still depends on your job..

QUOTE(tatagal @ Aug 22 2012, 03:59 PM)
Bravo  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Is true that it is slightly easier to get a job if your address and phone number is in OZ. Since you get your PR approved, it means that they are still lack of experties like you in Australia. There are still chances! May I know what job are you looking for and in which part of Australia?
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post Aug 22 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Aug 22 2012, 04:37 PM)
For those who wish to apply for OZ PR after July 2012, don't put too much hope on it. The new SkillSelect policy is really tough and time consuming. Just Google skillselect for the new changes on the immigration policy

I have gotten my PR 2 months ago. It was based on the 2011 policy, it took 5 months for the entire process(Quite fast). I applied the PR through an agent in Malaysia and went through a lot of procedures. Here's the summary of it:

IELTS + Skills Accessment (Prepare certs, employment history signed by HR or manager) + State Approval (Optional if you do not have enough points)+Lodge Visa ($$$) + Health Check + Police Clearence = PR

Total damage is Rm20k++

As the policy changed, if one wish to migrate now, either enrol in the new Expresion of interest policy, or find an employer locally and transfer you there, once u worked for 2 years + ask the employer to sponsor you a PR. Looking for a job in OZ without a PR is tough, some say its the minimum requirement for each professional job.

Now I need to look for a job and a place to stay before I travel to OZ. I have not received any job offer yet although have applied a lot online...
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good on ya. my PR hope is getting minimal. occupation is not in SOL list anymore since July 2011 and scold myself why i went for TR instead of PR doh.gif

i got my first job here with good pay but i stuck over here as my visa ends on next year and the only hope is to get employer sponsored

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post Aug 22 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 22 2012, 05:22 PM)
good on ya. my PR hope is getting minimal. occupation is not in SOL list anymore since July 2011 and scold myself why i went for TR instead of PR doh.gif

i got my first job here with good pay but i stuck over here as my visa ends on next year and the only hope is to get employer sponsored
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Mind to elaborate more? Why you go for TR instead of PR? What is your occupation?
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post Aug 22 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Aug 22 2012, 08:30 PM)
Mind to elaborate more? Why you go for TR instead of PR? What is your occupation?
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my gf is primary applicant(marketing) while im secondary. we still newbie about PR stuff last year and thought will be going back msia for good after 2 years so TR was a best way and can get PR in future but everything changed after we applied TR. we have a job and we pretty comfortable with the living and the pays but we need to start all over again if we back to malaysia.

spoke with agent and lawyer friend and the best way is to get employer sponsored but it's not possible with our current employers. we are now looking for another job though
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post Aug 22 2012, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 22 2012, 07:33 PM)
my gf is primary applicant(marketing) while im secondary. we still newbie about PR stuff last year and thought will be going back msia for good after 2 years so TR was a best way and can get PR in future but everything changed after we applied TR. we have a job and we pretty comfortable with the living and the pays but we need to start all over again if we back to malaysia.

spoke with agent and lawyer friend and the best way is to get employer sponsored but it's not possible with our current employers. we are now looking for another job though
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Best of luck then!

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post Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM

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sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 11:53 AM

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well, it really depends on you..how desperate you want to get ur PR, i mean u want it asap or u can wait..
and does that state is the place you want to spend your 2 years ?

borderline to me, its still sufficient.. when i applied mine few years ago (5 years ago), i also ngam ngam enough points.. and still got my PR..and i can choose which state i wanna go..

i will suggest list down the pros and cons.. between state sponsorship and PR..

QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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State sponsorship: If you are very sure which state you will be staying and working + you want to get it ASAP!

By the way, isn't it as long as you have 60 points, they will pass your application but just the matter of time? They will not fail you if you are at borderline, right? So what is the concern? I think your agent should be experience enough to answer your question since she handled a lot of cased before yours!
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Aug 11 2012, 04:09 PM)
Well, I think it won't be more expensive than living in the UK.
I'm not looking for jobs that pay per hour, I'm looking for full time, graduate jobs. I'm thinking of going there on a holiday visa (skip the hassle of applying for working holiday visa), and while renting a place to stay for perhaps 3 months, concentrating totally on job hunting. Then once got job offer, apply for work permit. I just don't know if that's legal, but this is how it works in Europe. Thinking of living on a student budget like RM 3k per month, so can get ready ±RM 10k to spend over 3 months in Australia.

The sad thing is I've no friends/families living in Australia. sad.gif
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Dude, let's keep it real ok?

1. I know you want to come here on a visitor's pass while looking for a job. Yes, it's legal as long as you do not work. But do you know that (A) economy in Australia isn't great so companies are down sizing and not really employing (B) there are probably 5 other people who can do the same job as you do but with Australian PR/citizenship, why should they go through the hassle of getting you an Australia work visa when they can get 1 of them instead?

2. RM 3k per month = AUD 1k per month. Even if you share a room, I'll give it to you that you manage to find a place with $150 per week. A month that's $650. More than half your budget gone. Public transportation isn't exactly cheap for you to get around the city, what more business districts outside of the city centre. Cost of living in Australia is high. There's no RM 3.5 chap fan here. Let me give you best case scenario, budget $350 leftover divided by 30 days ok? You have $11.67 per day left on your budget besides rental. Split that by 2 meals you have less than $6 per meal. Possible, yes but definitely not very feasible.

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post Aug 23 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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You should apply for state sponsorship. The new system is a pool system like New Zealand. Applicants get picked based on points. So borderline is not enuff jor...

Heard from my agent that State Sponsored applications get selected immediately.. so definitely should get state sponsorship!! Your agent chard AUD 1200? my agent only RM 750.. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on August 23, 2012, 1:07 pm
QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 12:40 PM)
Dude, let's keep it real ok?

1. I know you want to come here on a visitor's pass while looking for a job. Yes, it's legal as long as you do not work. But do you know that (A) economy in Australia isn't great so companies are down sizing and not really employing (B) there are probably 5 other people who can do the same job as you do but with Australian PR/citizenship, why should they go through the hassle of getting you an Australia work visa when they can get 1 of them instead?

2. RM 3k per month = AUD 1k per month. Even if you share a room, I'll give it to you that you manage to find a place with $150 per week. A month that's $650. More than half your budget gone. Public transportation isn't exactly cheap for you to get around the city, what more business districts outside of the city centre. Cost of living in Australia is high. There's no RM 3.5 chap fan here. Let me give you best case scenario, budget $350 leftover divided by 30 days ok? You have $11.67 per day left on your budget besides rental. Split that by 2 meals you have less than $6 per meal. Possible, yes but definitely not very feasible.
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I think you can only do odd jobs on working holiday visa... heard Malaysia allocation is finished until July 2013.

Use RM to live in AUD is crazy lah... think about the exchange rate... but as someone mentioned the minimum wage there is effectively AUD 12-14 an hour.. so still can help a bit...

I think I told TSOM before... apply your PR first then only look for jobs there... it will be easier instead of knocking on ppl's doors asking them to sponsor you... i am afraid that put $$$ won't get job in the end but the way my agent put it... once you get PR you have 3 years before you must move over.. so i have 3 years to look for job in australia... should be enuff time... thumbup.gif

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post Aug 23 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 23 2012, 01:03 PM)
I think you can only do odd jobs on working holiday visa... heard Malaysia allocation is finished until July 2013.
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Then you think wrong. You can work full-time on a working holiday visa but maximum contract period per employer is 6 months.
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post Aug 23 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 01:14 PM)
Then you think wrong. You can work full-time on a working holiday visa but maximum contract period per employer is 6 months.
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Hahaha technically you are correct but companies won't hire you on contract basis... unless their projects really short term... or maybe you are IT..
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post Aug 23 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 23 2012, 01:18 PM)
Hahaha technically you are correct but companies won't hire you on contract basis... unless their projects really short term... or maybe you are IT..
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I have 1 friend in the advertising industry work for 2 separate employers during her 1 year working holiday visa. I also have another friend who is a civil engineer work 6 months for his employer while on a working holiday visa and then the employer applied for him a Work Visa after that.

Again, you are wrong. Please stop trying to share "advice" when you don't know about them. There's nothing worse than sharing wrong information to people.
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post Aug 23 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 01:25 PM)
I have 1 friend in the advertising industry work for 2 separate employers during her 1 year working holiday visa. I also have another friend who is a civil engineer work 6 months for his employer while on a working holiday visa and then the employer applied for him a Work Visa after that.

Again, you are wrong. Please stop trying to share "advice" when you don't know about them. There's nothing worse than sharing wrong information to people.
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Wow don't be so offended my friend.. you got lucky friends, i got unlucky friends... so what's WRONG about sharing my side of the story?

I said technically you are correct, but practically not many companies offer temp positions... i never said you CAN'T work in the professional field ok?

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post Aug 23 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 23 2012, 01:34 PM)
Wow don't be so offended my friend.. you got lucky friends, i got unlucky friends... so what's WRONG about sharing my side of the story?

I said technically you are correct, but practically not many companies offer temp positions... i never said you CAN'T work in the professional field ok?

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There's nothing wrong with sharing your experience. The problem is you didn't share your experience. Instead all you said was:

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"but companies won't hire you on contract basis"


If you had said "based on experience, my friends who were here on working holiday visas couldn't get a job" or something along those lines, it's perfectly understandable. But by stating what you said, it's more like a matter of fact than it was a sharing of experience. I will agree that MOST companies will probably not prefer working holiday visa employees but I'm just sharing that it's not impossible.
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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 01:40 PM)
There's nothing wrong with sharing your experience. The problem is you didn't share your experience. Instead all you said was:
If you had said "based on experience, my friends who were here on working holiday visas couldn't get a job" or something along those lines, it's perfectly understandable. But by stating what you said, it's more like a matter of fact than it was a sharing of experience. I will agree that MOST companies will probably not prefer working holiday visa employees but I'm just sharing that it's not impossible.
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Hahaha you quote partial of my sentence only leh... what about the latter half?? go read it again please..

Anyway sorry to upset you lah.. just forget it.. forum is about sharing information.. dun like it just ignore it.. cool2.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 23 2012, 01:50 PM)
Hahaha you quote partial of my sentence only leh... what about the latter half?? go read it again please..

Anyway sorry to upset you lah.. just forget it.. forum is about sharing information.. dun like it just ignore it..  cool2.gif
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But not sharing wrong information.

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Hahaha technically you are correct but companies won't hire you on contract basis... unless their projects really short term... or maybe you are IT..


Neither of my friends were on short term projects. They were both full time jobs no project based and neither were IT. All I'm saying is that if you want to share experience, please by all means share. It's great to share it with other people on the forum. On top of that, share your opinion by all means. However, if you want to make a statement of fact, then make sure it's accurate.

Edit: Apologies if I sounded harsh. No harm no foul. Cheers!

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 01:54 PM)
But not sharing wrong information.
Neither of my friends were on short term projects. They were both full time jobs no project based and neither were IT. All I'm saying is that if you want to share experience, please by all means share. It's great to share it with other people on the forum. On top of that, share your opinion by all means. However, if you want to make a statement of fact, then make sure it's accurate.

Edit: Apologies if I sounded harsh. No harm no foul. Cheers!
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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 11:46 AM)
sifus! i'm applying for a PR under the new EOI system. have done my IELTS and such.

after doing the points calculation, i have 60 points (minimum requirement is 60 points). my agent is suggesting i should go with a state sponsorship since i'm on the borderline passing mark. apparently state sponsorship would be faster for my case (push my points up to 65) and since my skills are listed on SOL 1, it's best to apply for the faster route in case things get harder and harder in the future/my skills are not listed as high demand anymore.

problem is, state sponsorship costs AUD1200. so i'm wondering, is it really necessary to go this way? the cost is so high leh sad.gif
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State sponsorship : It makes up for the points, but one thing that you must bear in mind, is that you would have to work in that state. It's not that flexible compared to the normal PR.

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