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konichiwawa
post Aug 23 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Aug 23 2012, 02:38 PM)
State sponsorship : It makes up for the points, but one thing that you must bear in mind, is that you would have to work in that state. It's not that flexible compared to the normal PR.
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State sponsorship and the new Skill Select are pretty similar now. Both require you to get a state who is in need of your occupation. So you don't really have a choice of where you want to work anymore.
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post Aug 23 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 23 2012, 03:02 PM)
State sponsorship and the new Skill Select are pretty similar now. Both require you to get a state who is in need of your occupation. So you don't really have a choice of where you want to work anymore.
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If not mistaken still can apply through Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa , but still go through skillselect right?
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 23 2012, 01:03 PM)
You should apply for state sponsorship.  The new system is a pool system like New Zealand.  Applicants get picked based on points.  So borderline is not enuff jor...

Heard from my agent that State Sponsored applications get selected immediately.. so definitely should get state sponsorship!! Your agent chard AUD 1200? my agent only RM 750..  icon_rolleyes.gif

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that's what i heard apparently, that the higher the points, the better. as for the state sponsorship, if i'm not mistaken, the agent doesn't make any money from it. so how did you get your agent to do it for rm750? is there any website i can see to find what the standard price is supposed to be if i apply by myself?


QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Aug 23 2012, 02:38 PM)
State sponsorship : It makes up for the points, but one thing that you must bear in mind, is that you would have to work in that state. It's not that flexible compared to the normal PR.
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funny thing is, my agent says that state sponsorship no longer requires one to work for 2 years in the nominated state. so apparently, all i have to do is pay for the state sponsorship and i can still work anywhere i want. anyone can confirm this? sounds weird to me.
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:20 PM

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I'll be graduating in December, studying a total of 11 months...
Graduate visa requires me to have studied 2 years.

If I want to apply for independent visa, I will need to get an IELTS of 8 to have enough points (60)

Furthermore, I need to get a Skills Assessment (~$350), which can only be done after I graduate. And I was told they won't be working much during xmas & new year. Plus I have to wait some weeks for skills to be assessed.

Not forgetting ~$450 for an IELTS test which I need to get an 8 in all bands. And time for immigration to process my stuff.

And those above only qualifies me for an expression of interest with 60 points. I should rather not bother trying and go back to MY right??

Unless I have an employee sponsor?
Got called for phone interview, but employer can't sponsor me sad.gif

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post Aug 23 2012, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 23 2012, 10:20 PM)
I'll be graduating in December, studying a total of 11 months...
Graduate visa requires me to have studied 2 years.

If I want to apply for independent visa, I will need to get an IELTS of 8 to have enough points (60)

Furthermore, I need to get a Skills Assessment (~$350), which can only be done after I graduate. And I was told they won't be working much during xmas & new year. Plus I have to wait some weeks for skills to be assessed.

Not forgetting ~$450 for an IELTS test which I need to get an 8 in all bands. And time for immigration to process my stuff.

And those above only qualifies me for an expression of interest with 60 points. I should rather not bother trying and go back to MY right??

Unless I have an employee sponsor?
Got called for phone interview, but employer can't sponsor me sad.gif
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11 months of study already proven you not eligible for independent TR/PR. you can only hope for employer sponsorship

anyway, if you have enough points with valid documents then i think that is not the issue anymore. they just need you to meet all the requirements with given minimum points and the chances of you getting approved is very high..


all my friends who applied for PR with minimum points have been granted(even in de facto)

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post Aug 23 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 23 2012, 09:50 PM)
11 months of study already proven you not eligible for independent TR/PR. you can only hope for employer sponsorship

anyway, if you have enough points with valid documents then i think that is not the issue anymore. they just need you to meet all the requirements with given minimum points and the chances of you getting approved is very high..
all my friends who applied for PR with minimum points have been granted(even in de facto)
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Actually I think I'm eligible as long as I get that 60 points. The 2 years study thing has been changed and now contributes 5 points instead of being a requirement. The only thing is that, I would need an IELTS of 8 to get 60 points.

It still is a requirement for graduate visa though.


When your friends applied for PR? Was it recently?
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post Aug 24 2012, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(mark @ Aug 23 2012, 08:06 PM)
that's what i heard apparently, that the higher the points, the better. as for the state sponsorship, if i'm not mistaken, the agent doesn't make any money from it. so how did you get your agent to do it for rm750? is there any website i can see to find what the standard price is supposed to be if i apply by myself?
funny thing is, my agent says that state sponsorship no longer requires one to work for 2 years in the nominated state. so apparently, all i have to do is pay for the state sponsorship and i can still work anywhere i want. anyone can confirm this? sounds weird to me.
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http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/

All state sponsored (visa 176) and general skilled migration (visa 175) PR has moved to Skill Select (http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/). Under the new Skill Select there are still a few options.

Visa 189 replaces the old GSM (visa 175). You still need to get nominated to be able to apply for PR but you are not required to state in any specific state.

Visa 190 replaces the old state sponsorship (visa 176). You need to stay for 2 years in the nominated territory/state.

Both costs AUD3060.


Added on August 24, 2012, 7:15 am
QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 23 2012, 10:24 PM)
Actually I think I'm eligible as long as I get that 60 points. The 2 years study thing has been changed and now contributes 5 points instead of being a requirement. The only thing is that, I would need an IELTS of 8 to get 60 points.

It still is a requirement for graduate visa though.
When your friends applied for PR? Was it recently?
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If I'm not wrong you do require 2 years of studying in Australia.

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To be awarded points for the Australian Study requirement you must have completed one or more degrees, diplomas or trade qualifications for award by an Australian educational institution as a result of a course or courses:

    that are registered courses
    that were completed in a total of at least 16 calendar months
    that were completed as a result of a total of at least two academic years study


Found on this website (http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...-aust-study.htm)

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by konichiwawa: Aug 24 2012, 07:15 AM
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post Aug 24 2012, 08:55 AM

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My husband just got his PR last month. We went with spouse visa route, and he got it within 2 months.

We did the application ourselves, and cost around RM 6.6k smile.gif Now planning the big move for early next year.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(victoria_lucas @ Aug 24 2012, 08:55 AM)
My husband just got his PR last month. We went with spouse visa route, and he got it within 2 months.

We did the application ourselves, and cost around RM 6.6k smile.gif Now planning the big move for early next year.
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Congrats and good luck! Let me know if you need any information if you are coming to Sydney =)
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 07:08 AM)
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/

All state sponsored (visa 176) and general skilled migration (visa 175) PR has moved to Skill Select (http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/). Under the new Skill Select there are still a few options.

Visa 189 replaces the old GSM (visa 175). You still need to get nominated to be able to apply for PR but you are not required to state in any specific state.

Visa 190 replaces the old state sponsorship (visa 176). You need to stay for 2 years in the nominated territory/state.

Both costs AUD3060.


Added on August 24, 2012, 7:15 am

If I'm not wrong you do require 2 years of studying in Australia.
Found on this website (http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...-aust-study.htm)

Hope this helps.
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As referring to http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...-table-grad.htm

Study Requirement is now under POINTS, no more under Basic Eligibility Req
Therefore, studying at Aus for 2 years just gives an additional 5 points. It is not a requirement. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 09:38 AM)
Congrats and good luck! Let me know if you need any information if you are coming to Sydney =)
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Thank you smile.gif The destination is Perth smile.gif

My husband did both his bachelor and master degrees in Australia, but has never worked there.
I hope job market won't be too harsh next year for accounting / finance.

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post Aug 24 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 09:50 AM)
As referring to http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-ski...-table-grad.htm

Study Requirement is now under POINTS, no more under Basic Eligibility Req
Therefore, studying at Aus for 2 years just gives an additional 5 points. It is not a requirement.  biggrin.gif
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Ah fair enough. But would the 5 points be critical on meeting the 65 points requirement? Are you able to get 65 points without that?
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:09 PM

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I think there are other independent visas that only require 60 points. For those, I would need to get an 8 in an IELTS test...
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post Aug 24 2012, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 12:09 PM)
I think there are other independent visas that only require 60 points. For those, I would need to get an 8 in an IELTS test...
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I heard it is almost impossible to get all 8 in IELTS, unless if you are native speaker, but I could have heard it wrong smile.gif

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post Aug 24 2012, 12:30 PM

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I've never taken an IELTS test before, so I really don't know the standard of my English.

For someone who has taken IELTS: How hard is it? How would you rate an average Malaysian's English level on the 9-point IELTS scale?

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post Aug 24 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 12:30 PM)
I've never taken an IELTS test before, so I really don't know the standard of my English.

For someone who has taken IELTS: How hard is it? How would you rate an average Malaysian's English level on the 9-point IELTS scale?
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I just took my General IELTS and I have got 8.5. But then again, English is my first language. Another friend of mine is Chinese educated and his English is decent, he got a 8.5 too (which is a little surprising). Yet another friend whose first language is English too scored an 8.

Honestly, I don't think it's too difficult. I did mine in Australia though. Average Malaysian's English I would say is around 7.5-8. Just cut down on the "lahs" and "mahs" etc during speaking exams.
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Aug 24 2012, 12:42 PM)
I just took my General IELTS and I have got 8.5. But then again, English is my first language. Another friend of mine is Chinese educated and his English is decent, he got a 8.5 too (which is a little surprising). Yet another friend whose first language is English too scored an 8.

Honestly, I don't think it's too difficult. I did mine in Australia though. Average Malaysian's English I would say is around 7.5-8. Just cut down on the "lahs" and "mahs" etc during speaking exams.
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When you say decent, do you mean no grammatical or spelling errors at all in day-to-day speaking & writing?
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 01:03 PM)
shocking.gif 
When you say decent, do you mean no grammatical or spelling errors at all in day-to-day speaking & writing?
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Yeah. Well, everyone makes grammatical/spelling errors once in awhile. I think it's perfectly understandable. But if you are asking specifically about my friend, he still makes common grammar errors like past/present/future tense mistakes.

The only 2 tests which test on your grammar and/or spelling would be the speaking and written tests. The listening and comprehension tests are straight forward as long as you pay attention and don't make silly mistakes.


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post Aug 24 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 24 2012, 01:03 PM)
shocking.gif 
When you say decent, do you mean no grammatical or spelling errors at all in day-to-day speaking & writing?
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From Konichiwawa's reply, IELTS doesn't sound too bad. Good luck smile.gif

I've never done IELTS before. I got my PR 10 years ago under General Skilled Migration category, when it was so much easier than now.
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QUOTE(victoria_lucas @ Aug 24 2012, 01:13 PM)
I've never done IELTS before. I got my PR 10 years ago under General Skilled Migration category, when it was so much easier than now.
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10 years ago. Meaning right after uni? They had the graduate PR scheme. It indeed was a lot easier then.

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