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empire23
post Aug 27 2012, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 27 2012, 05:06 PM)
Hi guys, I've been turned down a couple of times during interview because I do not hold a PR/citizen status.
If I submit my EOI, would it be possible for my employer to specifically pick me?
In other words, sponsor me BUT not going through the employer-sponsored visa?
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No. They cannot.

All SkillSelect applicants have no name, gender, country of origin or age attached to their EOIs for employer perusal.

You won't get a job if you don't have a PR. Too much paperwork. But some employers will turn a blind eye as long as there is an internal recommendation. Tons of my friends on student visas and bridging visas land permanent jobs because others knew people in HR.

It's the same as Malaysia. The interviews are a farce, 99 percent of the time the guy that knows the HR dude will get the job.
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post Aug 27 2012, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 27 2012, 04:26 PM)
I went to the DIAC + EngAus workshop in Brisbane a few weeks back. Not really because I need migration advice but because there's free food and I want teman kawan. Mang I'm cheap!

Either way Skills Select works like this,

You make an application and submit all your documents and you're given calculated points on the spot. The system is based off meritocracy, meaning if you have 60 points and old mate has 100, he'll go first through the processing line. So if your points aren't high you can wait for a very long time. Remember that skills select has no minimum service period and is capped by quota, so you'll want as many points as possible.

You can jump the line if employers view your profile and wish to sponsor you, so having extra skills that relate to industry is quite important. Protip : A first aid cert is pretty much mandatory for people wanting an OnG or mining job.

There's no need for a 100 page work thesis. A simple letter from your employer, relating to
- Your time at the workplace
- Your position
- Your general responsibilities
- Your skills and examples of work

Which comes up to about 2 pages is more than enough. Most importantly the manager must be contactable by the DIAC. 

Remember that eg; There are 100 places for a year, and there are 100 people with higher points than you, you will NOT get through.
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Thanks for the tip., empire23.
Btw, which state are you in right now?
The only thing that is holding me behind for my present state is the time at the workplace and competency certification.

If there's no name in the system, the best, competency will help.

Face the truth, I know the HR, that's why i land in my current job laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Stefanov: Aug 27 2012, 07:57 PM
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post Aug 27 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 24 2012, 02:43 PM)
you are lucky because of this changes. I finished my study 1.6 years and i can't get PR independently :/

most of my friends got it last year and the latest was 2 weeks ago. He has a family here with disabled daughter and were holding TR. he won't get a pr because of his daughter's case but he risked it and granted with PR after 2 months. he is now a happy man
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Hey i think if it's 4 semesters worth of study is ok.. if u came back Msia for holidays then yea u wud have been there 1.6 yrs maybe?


Added on August 27, 2012, 8:50 pm
QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 27 2012, 05:06 PM)
Hi guys, I've been turned down a couple of times during interview because I do not hold a PR/citizen status.
If I submit my EOI, would it be possible for my employer to specifically pick me?
In other words, sponsor me BUT not going through the employer-sponsored visa?
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Ever considered the graduate visa? =)

This post has been edited by Mirror_man: Aug 27 2012, 08:50 PM
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post Aug 27 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 27 2012, 10:43 AM)
20k = Mega ripoff. Considering I certify and fill out all the docs for my friends for free and walk them through the process as well.

It's not hard really, just save your dosh and DIY.
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From what I saw it's roughly RM8k for the agency fees. The rest are fees charged directly by DIAC, ACS, Wisma Putra etc.

RM8k is not a lot of money to save my time. Never tried DIY though so for some people it may be worth it.

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post Aug 28 2012, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Aug 27 2012, 10:18 PM)
From what I saw it's roughly RM8k for the agency fees. The rest are fees charged directly by DIAC, ACS, Wisma Putra etc.

RM8k is not a lot of money to save my time. Never tried DIY though so for some people it may be worth it.
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The fees breakdown should be as per the below;

Wisma Putra = 20 ringgit
DIAC = 3000 AUD = 9000
ACS/EngAus = 600
Medical = 500 (PR with Hep A+C and HIV test / XRAY)

8k for just a few hours of work is quite a lot of dosh. That's why I never hired a migration agent.
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post Aug 28 2012, 11:16 AM

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Thanks a lot empire23 biggrin.gif


Also, I think ACS is ~A$350


QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 27 2012, 08:47 PM)
Ever considered the graduate visa? =)
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Only studied 1 year sad.gif
2 years required.
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post Aug 28 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 28 2012, 03:21 AM)
8k for just a few hours of work is quite a lot of dosh. That's why I never hired a migration agent.
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Haha you should offer your services then. biggrin.gif Too bad I'm not really on the lookout for an Aussie PR.


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post Aug 30 2012, 07:38 AM

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I think I'm applying for Visa 189. But my agent says I should get a state sponsorship with that visa, apparently it'll increase my chances. I don't even know if that makes any sense. And they're charging me AUD1200 for that. Really unsure where that figure comes from.

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And regarding IELTS, I did mine in British Council Malaysia. If you register online, you get a free online course so you can get acquainted with the format. I scored an 8 (I'm a native English speaker). I did find that the test was pretty tricky though.
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Maybe it's AUD1200 for their services on top of the standard application fee.

IELTS is a little tricky, but shouldn't be a problem if you pay attention.
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post Sep 7 2012, 08:00 PM

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It's a risk even with state sponsorship because it can't guarantee a job offer yet.
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Aug 27 2012, 10:47 PM)
Hey i think if it's 4 semesters worth of study is ok.. if u came back Msia for holidays then yea u wud have been there 1.6 yrs maybe?


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Ever considered the graduate visa? =)
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no.mine only 3 semesters so it's just 1.6 years

i never EVER considered for PR when i first came here until i got my TR(follow my gf) to experience the working life. i can't imagine myself if i'm back to malaysia to start over again with a salary that need to be saved for few months in order to purchase 1 thing and need a very special occasion day to have a nice dinner. yes,i'm too comfortable with my life here but i still need to face the fact :/
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post Sep 8 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 7 2012, 10:07 PM)
no.mine only 3 semesters so it's just 1.6 years

i never EVER considered for PR when i first came here until i got my TR(follow my gf) to experience the working life. i can't imagine myself if i'm back to malaysia to start over again with a salary that need to be saved for few months in order to purchase 1 thing and need a very special occasion day to have a nice dinner. yes,i'm too comfortable with my life here but i still need to face the fact :/
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hihihehe,

How long have you been in Aust? I am not familiar with all these visa stuff anymore, but is there no other way for you get PR? employer sponsorship? family/relative sponsor? or maybe putting financial investment in Aust?

Moving back to Malaysia and starting over (after you work in Aust) is not easy. Been there, done that.

I did my high school and uni in Aust. I got my PR straight after uni and was working in Australia for almost 8 years before moving back to Malaysia because of family reasons. I find it hard to "adapt" to working life in Malaysia. Salary is the main issue for me, and yes I know what you mean by saving a few months salary in order to purchase 1 thing, etc etc. The cost of living vs income ratio is simply bad.

After 2 years in Malaysia, we have decided to move back to Australia. Things might have changed there, we are hoping the job market wont be too harsh next year.

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QUOTE(victoria_lucas @ Sep 9 2012, 01:38 AM)
hihihehe,

How long have you been in Aust? I am not familiar with all these visa stuff anymore, but is there no other way for you get PR? employer sponsorship? family/relative sponsor? or maybe putting financial investment in Aust?

Moving back to Malaysia and starting over (after you work in Aust) is not easy. Been there, done that.

I did my high school and uni in Aust. I got my PR straight after uni and was working in Australia for almost 8 years before moving back to Malaysia because of family reasons. I find it hard to "adapt" to working life in Malaysia. Salary is the main issue for me, and yes I know what you mean by saving a few months salary in order to purchase 1 thing, etc etc. The cost of living vs income ratio is simply bad.

After 2 years in Malaysia, we have decided to move back to Australia. Things might have changed there, we are hoping the job market wont be too harsh next year.
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finding luck in employer sponsorship but they most likely not going to do it.i'm just a fresh graduate and they can easily find someone to replace me without going through immigration hassle. remember that HR is not easy to pleased with

i've been working here slightly over 1 year and still have another year to go. EOI is the only way that i can try on

btw, many people especially from china paid employer($10k or more) to get a employer sponsorship
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post Sep 9 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 9 2012, 09:14 AM)
finding luck in employer sponsorship but they most likely not going to do it.i'm just a fresh graduate and they can easily find someone to replace me without going through immigration hassle. remember that HR is not easy to pleased with

i've been working here slightly over 1 year and still have another year to go. EOI is the only way that i can try on

btw, many people especially from china paid employer($10k or more) to get a employer sponsorship
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good idea..10k as in what currency? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(freewisefly @ Sep 9 2012, 12:59 PM)
good idea..10k as in what currency? hmm.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 9 2012, 12:43 PM)
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Have you ever considered doing the same thing? Then you no need to start everything all over again!
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QUOTE(tatagal @ Sep 10 2012, 01:09 PM)
Have you ever considered doing the same thing? Then you no need to start everything all over again!
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i won't pay $10k just to get sponsorship. you won't know what will happen or whether the employer will fired you within the agreement.


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post Sep 12 2012, 01:30 PM

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if anyone wants to know a little more about visa and job placement, can ask me.

im from a local law firm and human resource job placement company in Queensland, Australia.
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post Sep 12 2012, 08:22 PM

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is it true that finding a night shift job is easy for migrant?
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post Sep 13 2012, 11:14 AM

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is it true that finding a night shift job is easy for migrant?
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Which part of Australia are you planning to go?

Some place is easy to get a job if you are willing to work on weekends especially Sunday! Some job is paying double the normal wage on Sunday! rclxms.gif drool.gif
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(tatagal @ Sep 13 2012, 11:14 AM)
Which part of Australia are you planning to go?

Some place is easy to get a job if you are willing to work on weekends especially Sunday! Some job is paying double the normal wage on Sunday! rclxms.gif  drool.gif
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I'm not sure, maybe VIC or SA.

May i know which places are easy to get a job?

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