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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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Nemesis1980
post Dec 9 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 8 2013, 05:00 PM)
Most of my friends in Melbourne are Architects and I have to agree that the pay is very low compare to other professional jobs but it also depends which company you working with. They mostly deal with high rise building and apartments and not really into landed house.
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yeah it is. architect is getting well paid in asia.
reason why they getting low pay is becoz there's not many large construction project going on. Mainly all residential houses.
If they really get into designing small houses as freelancer, they'll get more pay than just sitting in the office working for their boss.

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post Dec 9 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(divine061 @ Dec 9 2013, 06:55 AM)
Yes, high rise building, which means they are employed and associated with larger companies. My previous reply was towards the lack of chances here in Australia if you wants to go freelancing, which I believe your argument supported too.

And naleh33, as I did mentioned, property booming and architectural work are totally different. Properties that change hand are second / third hand properties. Even if they buy it to knock down and rebuild, most people goes for project homes with standard design which does not require an architect. Even with customization, they are minimal that just require a draft man.

The pay is probably average/on-par compared to other professionals here locally, but low in the sense that, I would think in Malaysia, architect commands a higher then average salary locally. That being said, if you manage to find a job, it is still all good.
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If you wanna work in architect firm in KL, i've known some well known architect firm which really have nice pay. got company trip to istanbul some more....


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post Dec 9 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:48 AM)
You're right. Architect here doesn't earn much coz they're living in a damn kampung place and dun wanna go for big city! Draughtmen here earning better than architect.
I saw architect like chiplak here, always bullied by supervisor. Some can't stand the pressure, so work freelance lor.
Those house design you're saying are those big company using copy and paste design to sell and build. very dull design but better than KL which majority house are uniform.
What i'm saying here is the private client who wish to build their own house at their own land. These ppl dun like the unifrom design out there. You get wat i mean?
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I understand what you meant. And I am just saying that in my knowledge, the demand for architect built houses are very very little. Almost all people goes for the templated design.

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post Dec 9 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(ravi6662 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:52 AM)
earning aud$4.5k
60k a year

rent, 1k/month
car = 4.5k cash

all other stuff cheap..

in proportion to what u make..
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Pretax or post tax? What is your post tax income after deductibles?
And 4.5k x 12 =54k no?
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post Dec 9 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:32 AM)
Property sector is booming in Oz, I reckon they will be earning quite well as they rides through the boom.
This might just be my ignorance, but my understanding (and interpretation of the statistics) of the property market is that it has shifted from one that is about construction of new dwellings (peaked a few years ago) to transaction of existing dwelling. That is the boom and values associated with the property sector, are driven by price increases (of existing buildings) as opposed to volume (building new houses).

Stats here http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/8755.0


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post Dec 9 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:32 AM)
When you say is very low compared to other professionals, do you have a range like X years earning Y amount per annual? Property sector is booming in Oz, I reckon they will be earning quite well as they rides through the boom.
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Let's just say that my friends who are late 20s still earning around $55k pa. They are working in small company with 5 years(more or less) experience. But this could be changed in next year as they just passed the exam as Registered Architect

QUOTE(divine061 @ Dec 9 2013, 06:55 AM)
Yes, high rise building, which means they are employed and associated with larger companies. My previous reply was towards the lack of chances here in Australia if you wants to go freelancing, which I believe your argument supported too.

And naleh33, as I did mentioned, property booming and architectural work are totally different. Properties that change hand are second / third hand properties. Even if they buy it to knock down and rebuild, most people goes for project homes with standard design which does not require an architect. Even with customization, they are minimal that just require a draft man.

The pay is probably average/on-par compared to other professionals here locally, but low in the sense that, I would think in Malaysia, architect commands a higher then average salary locally. That being said, if you manage to find a job, it is still all good.
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They are located in Melbourne so they have more projects for apartments. Interestingly one of my friend is working with McDonald's as in they are responsible in building the franchise around Melbourne. And yes, he is sick of Macca's because he always get a free meal from them tongue.gif
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post Dec 9 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 9 2013, 01:32 PM)
Let's just say that my friends who are late 20s still earning around $55k pa. They are working in small company with 5 years(more or less) experience. But this could be changed in next year as they just passed the exam as Registered Architect
They are located in Melbourne so they have more projects for apartments. Interestingly one of my friend is working with McDonald's  as in they are responsible in building the franchise around Melbourne. And yes, he is sick of Macca's because he always get a free meal from them tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ravi6662 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:52 AM)
earning aud$4.5k
60k a year

rent, 1k/month
car = 4.5k cash

all other stuff cheap..

in proportion to what u make..
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You forgot taxes and medicare levy.

Rent 1.6k a month for a small house is the average.

60k is fresh grad territory.
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post Dec 11 2013, 07:59 PM

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Anyone here under the 457 working visa? Any advice on the credit cards as it's limited?
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post Dec 11 2013, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Dec 11 2013, 07:59 PM)
Anyone here under the 457 working visa? Any advice on the credit cards as it's limited?
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What do you mean by limited? I held 457 visa before and I managed to apply for credit cards. The bankers will normally advise you to have at least 2-3 months of payslip to prove that you have constant income before lodging the application.
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Dec 11 2013, 08:48 PM)
What do you mean by limited? I held 457 visa before and I managed to apply for credit cards. The bankers will normally advise you to have at least 2-3 months of payslip to prove that you have constant income before lodging the application.
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As in the choices are limited as it's restricted to banks like commonwealth, NAB and HSBC. Hence, I'm seeking for some people with experiences to see what's the best possible card to apply for. Thanks.
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post Dec 11 2013, 09:35 PM

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Wow its really hard time for Asian migrants in Australia. A friend of mine who was a manager at a top MNC in Malaysia decided to migrate to melbourne.

After 7 months he still can't find a job as a finance person not even a junior level. He got a part time job as a waiter but not enough.

Recently he came back to malaysia, under "disguise". Apparently he is embarass to meet friends or bump into them and having to explain that his plan to migrate didn't go too well.


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post Dec 12 2013, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Dec 11 2013, 09:35 PM)
Wow its really hard time for Asian migrants in Australia. A friend of mine who was a manager at a top MNC in Malaysia decided to migrate to melbourne.

After 7 months he still can't find a job as a finance person not even a junior level. He got a part time job as a waiter but not enough.

Recently he came back to malaysia, under "disguise". Apparently he is embarass to meet friends or bump into them and having to explain that his plan to migrate didn't go too well.
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It is always a challenge for any migrants to obtain a job which is really aligned to their status and salary remuneration especially those who are considered earning very well back in their previous country. However, it is something that every migrant has to prepare mentally. That is why the public perception of "Working in Australia" where every migrant will be leading a very comfortable and relaxing life with all sorts of help from the government is very inaccurate.
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post Dec 12 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Dec 11 2013, 09:35 PM)
Wow its really hard time for Asian migrants in Australia. A friend of mine who was a manager at a top MNC in Malaysia decided to migrate to melbourne.

After 7 months he still can't find a job as a finance person not even a junior level. He got a part time job as a waiter but not enough.

Recently he came back to malaysia, under "disguise". Apparently he is embarass to meet friends or bump into them and having to explain that his plan to migrate didn't go too well.
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When you're migrating to another country, doesn't mean it gonna running smooth. Never being told the grass is greener on the other side.
It's always a challenge to relocate to a new environment. Mentality has to be very positive.
There's nothing to be embarass. This is something very personal to everyone. No one knows how the migrants felt into a new country. We're always stuck in the middle.
What's his profession?
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post Dec 12 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Dec 12 2013, 06:25 AM)
It is always a challenge for any migrants to obtain a job which is really aligned to their status and salary remuneration especially those who are considered earning very well back in their previous country. However, it is something that every migrant has to prepare mentally. That is why the public perception of "Working in Australia" where every migrant will be leading a very comfortable and relaxing life with all sorts of help from the government is very inaccurate.
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This is for sure. Either you're super rich or you're high capability (Need to struggle a bit to settle down)
However, there's some tips which is likely to share upon.
1) Always have positive mentality
2) Always join the local community to know more locals who's in the same industry (how many of them did this??)
3) Try to be kind and open minded with anyone and be more participate
4) Get to know more local news / happening
5) Buy them a cuppa (not bribing!)

Ozzie tend to have more conversation with you if you know them 1st. They'll be very helpful in your courier and besides that, they're very depending on networking same as asian.
If you handle this well, you'll be fine

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post Dec 16 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:54 PM)
You forgot taxes and medicare levy.

Rent 1.6k a month for a small house is the average.

60k is fresh grad territory.
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Hi would like to ask you bout tax. How do they calculate if say suppose i got like 50k per annum?
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QUOTE(kazarboys @ Dec 16 2013, 02:23 PM)
Hi would like to ask you bout tax. How do they calculate if say suppose i got like 50k per annum?
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this page is handy http://www.paycalculator.com.au/
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post Dec 16 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 16 2013, 02:28 PM)
oo thanks.this calculator is very useful.
Any advice if i work there?

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post Dec 17 2013, 08:29 AM

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what kind of advice you are looking?
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QUOTE(witchx @ Dec 17 2013, 08:29 AM)
what kind of advice you are looking?
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advice like renting a room in sydney.
usually what is the average salary range should i expect to get (2 year in IT)
what about the taxes that i need to pay per annum.
Thanx

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