Wow its really hard time for Asian migrants in Australia. A friend of mine who was a manager at a top MNC in Malaysia decided to migrate to melbourne.

After 7 months he still can't find a job as a finance person not even a junior level. He got a part time job as a waiter but not enough.

Recently he came back to malaysia, under "disguise". Apparently he is embarass to meet friends or bump into them and having to explain that his plan to migrate didn't go too well.

Question:

If my PR going to expire, can i ask for extension?

If my PR expire, I want to reapply...would i be permanently suspended?

crap, mine is expiring next year. i haven't done the 2 years.

reason for me staying put is because my dad had a sudden near death experience, luckily i was around to take care of him.

if i reapply also hard, right?

job market in Oz sucks. i got CPA friends that migrated there, can;t even get stable jobs. My cousin who is engineering grad in Melb, could not get an engineer job, end up doing waitering.

Thats why i delay going.

But now i see our economy like sinking ship. Cost going up, GST coming in and subsidy cut - migration looking more feasible.

Some more BN encouraging us to migrate - tak suka, hijrah la.

when economy booming hard to find job, when economy down even worst. I remember when 1996 recession in Oz so bad, that my uncle who lived there for 10 years had to return back to msia with his family because couldn't find a job. Back then unemployment rate was 20%.

what is affecting Oz? Is it because USA Fed is drawing down their bond buying? I know China is slowing down a lot and concentrating more on local demand.

No aus experience.

He was Aus grad. Work in EY for 4 years. After that in Siemens then in HP as manager.

I understand that Aus experience counts, but he was a top student with honors, can't even find an accounting job, not even bookeeping !

Yeah, i can't imagine going there and working with 21 year olds, just graduated, earning same pay as me and same level.

I have a friend who worked for PWC as manager for 5 years, when he migrated, he took up a job as a one man account manager, do bookeeping use MYOB system. Not bad, earn AUD100k a year. But it is kind of a low level job. If let say any big recession were to happen in Oz, he is forced to find job in msia, his experience won't count for much.

I am very sure though those with more experience are better adept to critical thinking tthan fresh grads. The only advantage the fresh grads got over the experienced ones, is maybe they are more tech savvy.

My experience mainly in manufacturing, won't count much in Oz. High exchange rate cause factories to close down.

I think the earlier one go to australia the better. My ex gf, think she could get more experience by working one and a half year in Lafarge, the dumb lady thought it would benefit her. In the end, she went there to become a kindy teacher.

His experience was limited to audit firms. Unfortunately because he is familiar with Msia accounting stds, Big 4 in Oz, didn't want to hire him. He did got into a small 10 man accounting firm, worked for 3 years before he got the bookeeping job.

And oh yeah, working in Oz is very volatile. I can't recall, i think it was back in 2006, when sub prime happened, Oz was still doing well economically, but employers there panicked and started to lay off people. My friend lost his bookeeping job back then. His wife worked for an Oz bank, she lost her job too because her job role was replaced by cheap labor in Bangalore, India.

Its not easy to work for aussies. I hear some good stories, nice aussie bosses but i also hear nightmare aussie bosses. Its not like here, that they need to take three disciplinary sessions, before they terminate you. In Oz, got no protection at all. The boss don't like you, he or she can just terminate you, am i right to say?

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This post has been edited by Dharma123: Feb 6 2014, 10:20 PM

Yeah, both malaysia and australia has its good and bad. If you ask me, i would prefer to migrate to uk. I worked there for several months when my co temporarily seconded me there, the jobs in UK are much more diversified and invaluable experience than those in australia.

Well, about the good and bad. One of the reason why i grown tired of working in malaysia is the bad labor environment here. I constantly face lazy co workers, people who push to work back to me, politics by social background and skin color. But then, I hear the same of story from my singaporean friend who is working in australia, he tells me his aussie colleagues are pure lazy. Then my brother's gf who is an asian aussie, she tells me stories of racial discrimination at her bank. The asians are the slave drivers while only the whites sit in the rooms as high roller managers.

Ok granted I only hear this from a few people, I can't say that its general for all australian working environment.

Its a good idea, working till retirement and then return back to malaysia. But i say, by the time you reach 65, i think you would be too used to living in australia, don't want to go back. Anyways, I hear a lot of malaysian PRs secretly converting them into Aussie citizenship (after 5 years). They hush hush not tell the malaysian govt. So everytime they travel, they use their malaysian passports, keeping their aussie passport as backup. And when you have kids, would you trust to send them back to malaysia for national service? I mean the fear of seeing your kids who can't speak the local lingo being bullied by fellow NS classmates?

I am not sure if you can work for Woolworths or Coles for the rest of your live, haha. About 80% of their cashier counters are automatic not like our Aeon and Tescos. Gosh we are so outdated...our supermarkets need so many cashiers. I go to UK, all the tesco express are automated cash machines.

Sigh, my PR is going to expire next year..i dunno what to do.

how is obtaining job there?

so one has to quit his job here, go there and start applying? can take up to 6 months? yes if one has PR too.

I been holding back from going there..because I heard accounting jobs are scarce there.

I hesitate to migrate to work as something else...I really dunno.

I heard of a fren who is an accountant, migrated to Australia, lived there for 5 years, off and on took up contract jobs but came back here, because she got bored of the life in Australia. So decided to come back here but found that her peers were earning better money than her, her Australian job experience wasn't considered here, so she ended up working as a stock analyst instead of going back to become accountant.

if cars are cheap, the why do I see people there driving small cars? instead of BMWs?

what about financing? They don't use HP right? They go by leases? Are the instalments more hefty and discourage buyers from buying luxury cars?

No wonder, the Ozzies prefer to drive smaller cars. Interest rate 8-10% ! In Malaysia though cars are pricey..interest rate is 2.5-2.7% last I check.

yeah i saw a lot of asians drive BMW. But talk about driving in Australia, its pretty sickening to have to drive so sloowww...so many sign to tell you to drive slow..and speed trap.

I had to drive 25km/h in great ocean road. And then in melbourne, i really confuse with the stupid hoop turn.

do you drive in Australia?

can you confirm that?

zero interest? must be limited to certain period lah...if for the whole loan, then what for the bank provide interest free loan? they won't make a cent out of it.

then why the earlier poster say 8-10%?