I work in Westpac in SG and I can confirm that many aussies are relocating or looking out of Australia for work becuase the bank is in the process of offshoring alot of non-core, non-revenue dept overseas.

wah soccer player in aus...
why don't come home to play for one of the M league teams?
I think they pay much better....unless you want to somehow be spotted to play in europe

No offence but my personal opinion is its not good for you in the long run.
I mean unless you get spotted and play full professional in Europe or in the big A leagues and paid decent amount of money (i.e. something that you can live on and save), you have to think about what you're going to do after your football career is over.

And btw how old are you?
Soccer has a pretty short lifespan and its uncertain. You are "over it" at age 31 or 32 unless you're a top class player like Steven Gerrard or Ryan Giggs or you can break a leg and be forced to retire.

And when your sports visa expire, you will have to return to Malaysia.

So unless you are also studying/gaining other skillset, it will be incredibly difficult for you to get another job even in Malaysia as you don't have the experience. Plus you are married and have liabilities and you cannot return to Malaysia to take a RM 900 odd job.

Another option is to study for your pro license to become a coach or manager but its a big risk since its not sure you can go back to study for 1-2 years with no income and an uncertain job opportunities (new coaches are paid much less than players and if they want to hire you in the first place).

You don't want to end up like Paul Gascoigne broke, divorced and drunk

This post has been edited by robertchoo: Feb 25 2013, 08:54 PM

Trying yr luck in Aus? What happens if you are jobless for >1 year?
Do you have a family to feed? What is your current profession? Is it in demand or niche that Australia needs?

The last thing you want to do it to end up in dead end jobs like supermarket cashier, croupier, parking lot attendant, etc (no disrespect to those jobs).
If yes, better to be in M'sia.

Just curiously for thos who are currently working in Aus, how much is your disposable income (as a % of monthy salary) do you receive after deducting tax, Super and rent?

This post has been edited by robertchoo: Mar 29 2013, 11:48 PM

If you want a cruisy lifestyle, forget about working in SG.

Its competitive as hell now with many local Singaporeans and other foreign nationalities (esp Europeans, Americans and now even Latin Americans and the usual Asian immigrants i.e. Indian, Chinese, Philipino, Thais, Indonesians, etc) all vying for any position on offer.

Employers have a dearth of options with people willing to work more for less (as it is better than having no job at all in Europe where the unemployment is high) while economically, as a whole, SG is not doing that well or at least well enough to support the employment of all foreigners.

Inflation is climbing as a result of influx of foreigners looking for rental/homes/food, etc while wages are stagnant as employers continue to look for cheaper alternatives. Somebody is always at the side waiting to replace you.

Correct me if I'm wrong but last I heard Aussie is devaluating the AUD and trying to slash interest rates in order to remain competitive.
Meanwhile miners continue to retrench staff due to the high wages and cut cost to remain competitive and profitable.
Lots of Aussie are looking out and I see many of them migrating to Asia for better opportunities.

Good move.
Try to secure a job first before moving over.
That will solve alot of problems.
Don't do odd jobs. Coz if you do it for 1-2 years, its very difficult to explain to employers when you want to move back to your original job.
Esp if your job is in an everchanging environment

My 2 cents is: DON'T.
If you have the experience and skillset in their critical skillset list, just wait for the opportunity by applying it offshore while working.
Don't do the odd job thingy and if you do try not to exceed 6 months.
Put yourself in the employers shoes. Would you employ someone who is out of the industry and is doing odd jobs for 2 years, for example?
There are lots of competition, as you indicated and if you are out of the industry for some time, you lose that competitive edge especially if your job is in one of those rapid chaging ones like IT for example.

Yes, you will.
And you will return to Malaysia in 2-3 year when your savings run out or you find out you're going nowhere career wise if you're doing odd jobs in Australia.
And then you're going to have a problem getting jobs in malaysia coz you don't have any skillset worth the money.
In short, you'll be stuck.

Provided you either have no commitments or have deep pockets.

The thing to note here is that if you have the experience and the skillset which they are critically in need of, then i don't think they mind flying you down to Australia for an interview.
Like what Nemesis is (i think he mentioned he has 10+ years experience but don't know which industry). I know of a few friends who also have companies in Australia flying them in for an interview - all expenses paid. But they are senior (15+ years of experience) in the Oil & Gas industry in Malaysia.

I guess the ones you are referring to are either on the junior side where there are more demand for jobs than supply.

CPA Australia will be given the priority, so i was told

You need to secure a job then the com will apply a work visa for you. But this is highly unlikely unless you are very very senior or have very very niche skills that cannot be filled by australians or the hordes of pr.

If you have trouble finding jobs in msia, then your chances of finding job is australia is even less even with a pr let alone with none. Unless you have niche skills.

Its a substandard job becuase of its (lack of) career opportunities.
Yes it pays higher at 25/hr but what are your chances of being promoted?
Some do, most don't.
Sure you heard sucess stories (like those who went on to open their own cleaning services) and I'm not saying there isn't any.
But for every 1 that suceeds, thousands of others fail. The question is do you want to gamble your future?
If you're working as a cleaner in Aus there is no turning back. You can't come back to M'sia and waltz into an executive position with the same pay dollar to dollar.
You are stuck. Dead end.

I mean, those who qualify for a PR are probably degree holders studying on Aus.
If they would to go back to M'sia and work for a bank/MNC i am quite sure they will earn much more than the cleaner in 10 years time.
Of course there are always execeptions but again the question begets "do you want to gamble on your future?"

Don't take up such jobs if you are a uni degree holder.
There are still plenty of oppurtunities back home.
Work in something that adds value to your career in the long term and then if you really want to go back to Aus, it will be much easier.

No point wasting your degree (paid with your parents hard earned money) only to end up being cleaners or supermaket cashiers (no disrespect to those jobs) just eaking out a megre living in a foreign land. You won't get to save much anyway with 25/hr over the long run.

Its easier to suceed back home coz u got home advantage. You know the people, the culture, the pitfalls. Most importantly it is easier to secure a good job if u are a grad from aus.

Your situation is different. I'm talking about fresh grads straight out of uni. 1st they dun have a family. Second you will probably want to see less of your family if you're not bringing in the dough. If you get my drift.

To give you a better perspective I'll break it into a few parts.
1 Affordability of education - Affordability of education should not be a problem if you are a any where near decent in Malaysia. I know people who are factory supervisors who managed to send both kids to UK for engineering degrees. Plus there are lots of scholarship around and affordable private universities.

2. Quality of education - Generally australian uni do provide a slight advantage in terms of quality. I say slight advantage becuase 80-90% of the time it really depends on the students initiative to study themselves. For example, you can spend all the money in the world to enroll your child into Harvard but if he/she is not interested/not make an effort to learn by themselves, it is of no use. Conversely even if you send a very motivated person to the lousy local unis, he or she will still excel, becuase he/she took the initiative to study on thier own.

3. University degrees are only important to get that first job. That's about it. Like for me, nobody bothers to look at my uni degree once I have >5 years of experience. And just for additional info, characteristics that gets you a job includes your ability to present yourself/talk well, your enthusiam for the job and relevant experience (if you have them). NOT becuase you have a degree from so and so uni.

4. I personally don't like the Australian attitude in life. They tend to take things easy. While 1st generation will not suffer such pitfalls (as we make great sacrifice to get into Australia), the same cannot be said if your child goes though life in Australia. I've seen them. Asian kids who behave and act like Australians. Laid back, couldn't be bothered. And people who say they will teach their children to be hardworking, etc are all just talk. Why? Coz of environment, peers etc. Nobody wants to work hard if they can take the easy way out.

5. Talk about freshies, if they can secure a job within a year, they should stay. - Not everyone can secure a job and not everyone can hang around for 1 year doing nothing,.

Firstly you're assuming that those fresh grads will get the same amount every year. That is clearly not the case. That is also why people job hop. For a better pay. But that is a discussion for another day.

Secondly, how are you better off working as a cashier with a 2-3k salary every month in aus?