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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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Nemesis1980
post Dec 18 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 18 2013, 08:13 PM)
Any lubang for IT position for me? brows.gif
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could try to apply bhpbillioin?

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post Dec 18 2013, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 18 2013, 10:05 PM)
could try to apply bhpbillioin?
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wah BHP. Dont think they are doing too well in the current mining situation.
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post Dec 18 2013, 10:33 PM

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Try Oil and Gas company, as far as I know they have a quota for international students to fulfill.
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post Dec 18 2013, 10:45 PM

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Try Oil and Gas company, as far as I know they have a quota for international students to fulfill.
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or banking industries. i know they need IT guy

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post Dec 18 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 18 2013, 10:45 PM)
or banking industries. i know they need IT guy
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Banking is better for IT. Mining outsource their jobs to other IT companies like HP. Just like Rio Tinto. Only call when needed, can save money from the bleeding lost.
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post Dec 19 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 18 2013, 10:45 PM)
or banking industries. i know they need IT guy
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Any position to apply?
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post Dec 19 2013, 12:44 PM

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I found a couple of jobs from SEEK (http://www.seek.com.au/) before you can give it a try... of course as per every other job search websites, they may not provide you a response.

most of them require appropriate visas but if you have the right experience some of them may consider to offer you something?
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post Dec 29 2013, 06:40 PM

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Effective 24 December 2013, applications for New South Wales nomination for the subclass 190 visa were closed.
What a waste of effort as they will reopen on July, 2014.
Anyone had experience entering Australia as student and then managed to get a job as well as PR ?
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post Dec 30 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(jemmysan @ Dec 29 2013, 06:40 PM)
Effective 24 December 2013, applications for New South Wales nomination for the subclass 190 visa were closed. 
What a waste of effort as they will reopen on July, 2014.
Anyone had experience entering Australia as student and then managed to get a job as well as PR ?
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You mean student as in he/she studied in Australia or locally in Malaysia?
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post Dec 30 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(jemmysan @ Dec 29 2013, 06:40 PM)
Effective 24 December 2013, applications for New South Wales nomination for the subclass 190 visa were closed. 
What a waste of effort as they will reopen on July, 2014.
Anyone had experience entering Australia as student and then managed to get a job as well as PR ?
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Everyone wanted to enter NSW. Flooded with immigrants. Same goes to Victoria.
Hmm....I got some young boys & girls who are uni students. once they graduate, straight away got job offer. Some got visa 457 in a month. some got their PR after working 2 years. Very very young and bright, 25 yo only.
Some even my junior during 2ndary schools. some even get higher pay than me entering big corp.
Well, this is how our brain drain keep on going.....

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post Dec 30 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(jemmysan @ Dec 29 2013, 06:40 PM)
Effective 24 December 2013, applications for New South Wales nomination for the subclass 190 visa were closed. 
What a waste of effort as they will reopen on July, 2014.
Anyone had experience entering Australia as student and then managed to get a job as well as PR ?
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i was studying in NSW previously and also obtained PR under 457 . I believe this has been changed to 189
Landed a job prior to PR approvals as I did the mass resume handout and possibly got lucky.

Note: obtained PR 5 years back, application submission to approvals took about 7 months.

many of my mates submitted their applications about 6 months after I did back in 2007 and had to wait 5 years for PR to get approved. Had to go through 2 rounds of police check, medical.
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post Dec 31 2013, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Dec 30 2013, 10:14 AM)
You mean student as in he/she studied in Australia or locally in Malaysia?
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I meant he/she studied in Australia University, so entering Australia through student visa.
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post Dec 31 2013, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 30 2013, 11:34 AM)
Everyone wanted to enter NSW. Flooded with immigrants. Same goes to Victoria.
Hmm....I got some young boys & girls who are uni students. once they graduate, straight away got job offer. Some got visa 457 in a month. some got their PR after working 2 years. Very very young and bright, 25 yo only.
Some even my junior during 2ndary schools. some even get higher pay than me entering big corp.
Well, this is how our brain drain keep on going.....
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Sounds good, thanks. It seems the chance to find a job is much higher if you are graduated from Australia University, and then subsequently get the PR. One of my relatives insisted me not to study there, according to her, it's impossible to get a job within few months so she returned to Malaysia. Just an additional info: she studied IT in Charles Sturt University in Melbourne. Recently, she left from her permanent job in Malaysia and has been unemployed for more than 6 months.

QUOTE(witchx @ Dec 30 2013, 02:08 PM)
i was studying in NSW previously and also obtained PR under 457 . I believe this has been changed to 189
Landed a job prior to PR approvals as I did the mass resume handout and possibly got lucky.
Note: obtained PR 5 years back, application submission to approvals took about 7 months.
Any university could you recommend for IT postgraduate program? Did you apply before or after graduated?
I think 457 is still there. 190 for NSW is already closed, then I check subclass 489, but all IT occupations are not eligible for all their counties, some are even suspended.

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many of my mates submitted their applications about 6 months after I did back in 2007 and had to wait 5 years for PR to get approved. Had to go through 2 rounds of police check, medical.
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Were all of your mates studying in NSW too? Did they all manage to obtain the PR? Thanks for sharing. notworthy.gif

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post Dec 31 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(jemmysan @ Dec 31 2013, 07:24 AM)
Sounds good, thanks. It seems the chance to find a job is much higher if you are graduated from Australia University, and then subsequently get the PR.  One of my relatives insisted me not to study there, according to her, it's impossible to get a job within few months so she returned to Malaysia. Just an additional info: she studied IT in Charles Sturt University in Melbourne. Recently, she left from her permanent job in Malaysia and has been unemployed for more than 6 months.
Any university could you recommend for IT postgraduate program? Did you apply before or after graduated?
I think 457 is still there. 190 for NSW is already closed, then I check subclass 489, but all IT occupations are not eligible for all their counties, some are even suspended.
Were all of your mates studying in NSW too? Did they all manage to obtain the PR? Thanks for sharing.  notworthy.gif
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Unfortunately I do not know anything about IT postgraduate programs as I have not done any research and do not want to provide incorrect information ....

For PR application I have applied after graduation as during the studies I do not have enough points to qualify for an application.

In regards to your relatives' advice, they do have certain point on jobs difficulties, but then again it happens in various other countries as well. You are going for your postgraduate soon, do you have some experience prior? It will also help as well to get some part time / casual jobs in between your postgraduate studies that will help you out in your resume with local experience which may assist when you try to seek for jobs after graduation.

I have mates that has been unemployed over 6 months too and then landed a job though not in the job they were hoping for but at least its a start. 1 of them were actually on TR and then was even offered PR by the company that hired him. Most if not all of my mates are from NSW mostly graduated from UTS and UNSW and USYD

If your relative does not mind, she can start off with IT support / helpdesk / Customer service to begin with and then try to move up the ranks in the company. At least try and get one foot through the door.

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post Dec 31 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(witchx @ Dec 30 2013, 03:08 PM)
i was studying in NSW previously and also obtained PR under 457 . I believe this has been changed to 189
Landed a job prior to PR approvals as I did the mass resume handout and possibly got lucky.

Note: obtained PR 5 years back, application submission to approvals took about 7 months.

many of my mates submitted their applications about 6 months after I did back in 2007 and had to wait 5 years for PR to get approved. Had to go through 2 rounds of police check, medical.
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do share how hard it is, in today's market, to get a job there in IT? is IT really still in demand?
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Dec 31 2013, 09:04 AM)
do share how hard it is, in today's market, to get a job there in IT?  is IT really still in demand?
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Once again I am not sure, I believe there are still demand for it. I am not in the IT line therefore can't really comment. As you may know there are also different kind of IT subcategories and there will of course be different demand in each of them.

However you can check out seek.com.au which i have done a basic search for some of the ads being published there for Sydney with ICT category

http://www.seek.com.au/jobs-in-information...ick&searchType=

or just head over to www.seek.com.au to find other categories or more details.
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post Dec 31 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(sendomike @ Dec 31 2013, 09:04 AM)
do share how hard it is, in today's market, to get a job there in IT?  is IT really still in demand?
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The demand is mostly for senior positions. A bit harder for graduates without experience though
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post Dec 31 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 31 2013, 11:27 AM)
The demand is mostly for senior positions. A bit harder for graduates without experience though
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yea, did a search in seek and noticed that as well.. oh well.. guess i need some time gain some experience before applying smile.gif
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QUOTE(jemmysan @ Dec 31 2013, 07:10 AM)
I meant he/she studied in Australia University, so entering Australia through student visa.
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Hmm, not too sure for IT but for Engineering it's a bit hard for now. Don't have the mindset that you will automatically get a job after graduating in an Australian Uni anymore It's very different compared to 5 years ago when the economy was way better, heck even the locals are finding difficulties in obtaining a job.

If you really wish to get employment after graduating, tailor yourself accordingly. Example: Join CCA, get involved in networking and do lots of part time jobs while obtaining good grades =)
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Dec 31 2013, 10:42 AM)
yea, did a search in seek and noticed that as well.. oh well.. guess i need some time gain some experience before applying smile.gif
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Even a fresh graduate position require 1-2 years of experience which is stupid.

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