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Nemesis1980
post Aug 10 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Soony @ Aug 10 2013, 02:01 PM)
Engineering. Haha but the recent batch of China people in my university speaks fluent english, even better than us Malaysians O.O
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China student some of them are from very rich family. Somehow they're attending private school back home with ang moh teacher. So when they reach here, no problem at all.
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post Aug 11 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 9 2013, 10:37 PM)
Some recruiters are nice and some very tiao geh. I really wanna screw them sometimes.
They keep on repeating you don't have Ozzie experience. When i checked with my friend who worked here, they mentioned that our MAlaysia experience is far better, thanks to cover mountain cover sea concept...haha
My friend telling me if the Ozzie work in malaysia in lower level, they'll die sooner....
I used linkedin too. Seems no many opportunities inside. Try to go through the network but unsuccessful
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Then argue back, tell them that you worked for MNC in msia which the work culture very different from msia china man culture. Tell them that the job appraisal system is similar world wide.

Btw when you got your china co work job, is it what you were looking for? Is it in line with your job expectations/skills?

For eg, you are IT grad but you working as a cook (not in line with job skills)


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post Aug 11 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Aug 11 2013, 06:22 PM)
Then argue back, tell them that you worked for MNC in msia which the work culture very different from msia china man culture. Tell them that the job appraisal system is similar world wide.

Btw when you got your china co work job, is it what you were looking for? Is it in line with your job expectations/skills?

For eg, you are IT grad but you working as a cook (not in line with job skills)
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lol.yu can't even get into interview but you want to argue back?
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post Aug 11 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Aug 11 2013, 04:22 PM)
Then argue back, tell them that you worked for MNC in msia which the work culture very different from msia china man culture. Tell them that the job appraisal system is similar world wide.

Btw when you got your china co work job, is it what you were looking for? Is it in line with your job expectations/skills?

For eg, you are IT grad but you working as a cook (not in line with job skills)
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Sometimes you have to see things from the employers point of view.

Its like if you're an employer in M'sia looking for people and a you see a CV of an indian person with MNC experience but from some region in India you've never heard before, comes looking for a role in M'sia, you will have the same scepticism, wouldn't you?

Its the same there.
Believe it or not alot of aussies think of Malaysia as a tourism country like the truly asia ads.

This post has been edited by robertchoo: Aug 11 2013, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Aug 11 2013, 09:56 PM)
Sometimes you have to see things from the employers point of view.

Its like if you're an employer in M'sia looking for people and a you see a CV of an indian person with MNC experience but from some region in India you've never heard before, comes looking for a role in M'sia, you will have the same scepticism, wouldn't you?

Its the same there.
Believe it or not alot of aussies think of Malaysia as a tourism country like the truly asia ads.
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isn't it good? i'm sure you don't hope malaysia "issues" affected the tourist right?

anyway, many of my colleagues mistaken me as singaporean or indonesia because those are the only countries that they can think of. i have to remind them countless time that i actually from malaysia.


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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 11 2013, 10:12 PM)
isn't it good? i'm sure you don't hope malaysia "issues" affected the tourist right?

anyway, many of my colleagues mistaken me as singaporean or indonesia because those are the only countries that they can think of. i have to remind them countless time that i actually from malaysia.
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Yes in terms of tourism, no in terms of them treating you as equals in the professional scene (i.e. banking, engineer, accountancy, etc)
Take for example an accountant from say maldives or fiji and you can pretty much make your own assuption as to why they are often overlooked for employment.
All people do including them.

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post Aug 11 2013, 11:02 PM

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i am looking mech design engr transformer industry
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post Aug 11 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Aug 11 2013, 07:56 PM)
Sometimes you have to see things from the employers point of view.

Its like if you're an employer in M'sia looking for people and a you see a CV of an indian person with MNC experience but from some region in India you've never heard before, comes looking for a role in M'sia, you will have the same scepticism, wouldn't you?

Its the same there.
Believe it or not alot of aussies think of Malaysia as a tourism country like the truly asia ads.
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Well, that is what the interview is about...is where you sell your talents to your potential employer.

So justify to them and put out their doubts with your persuasive skills.

Just like how a salesman would try to push his product to his potential customer, you do the same too, because this is your chance.

But if the interviewer still not convince with your points, then let it be, at least you tried.

I've seen indian programmer from bangalore, do a great job but its just that they got bad accent, nobody can understand a word they saying. I've worked in an europe country for a few months, and I can tell you, I've met some colleagues from Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe who can do a better job than the White man counterpart.
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post Aug 11 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 11 2013, 07:47 PM)
lol.yu can't even get into interview but you want to argue back?
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I thought you say in an earlier post, you got an interview, the Aussie employer told you that your msian work experience is "inferior".
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Anybody here in Australia working in Perth? Just wondering what the numbers are and how do you feel about your daily life.
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i am looking mech design engr transformer industry
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Me mates at Alstom and ABB say there are openings for something along these lines, but these jobs usually fill up fast.
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Aug 12 2013, 01:26 AM)
I thought you say in an earlier post, you got an interview, the Aussie employer told you that your msian work experience is "inferior".
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no i did not. i tried to look at my previous posts but couldn't find it
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Aug 11 2013, 11:25 PM)
Well, that is what the interview is about...is where you sell your talents to your potential employer.

So justify to them and put out their doubts with your persuasive skills.

Just like how a salesman would try to push his product to his potential customer, you do the same too, because this is your chance.

But if the interviewer still not convince with your points, then let it be, at least you tried.

I've seen indian programmer from bangalore, do a great job but its just that they got bad accent, nobody can understand a word they saying. I've worked in an europe country for a few months, and I can tell you, I've met some colleagues from Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe who can do a better job than the White man counterpart.
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Thats assuming u get called up for an interview in the first place
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post Aug 12 2013, 10:42 PM

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Hi guys, came back from 2nd interview. They have yet to confirm the employment coz the project have yet to secure. So, they're saying will confirm to me this week.
It's a small builder company but seems not many project on hand thats why.
The GM showed me some of the drawings of the housing project. Well, it's simple and easy. Even SPM holders can do. I'm not to bluff that i'm good or what. Just that when i look thru, it's totally easy and i think i can used half day to do the whole project including pricing and submission.
Building is simple and easy. No complication. I checked thru the websites, the salary for doing this can simply get AUD70k - 80k /annum.
I'm just wondering, wat's really so important on Oz local experience?
I was lucky coz 1 of director is singaporean. That's y got chance. If not, ang moh don't even look at ur CV.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 12 2013, 10:42 PM)
Hi guys, came back from 2nd interview. They have yet to confirm the employment coz the project have yet to secure. So, they're saying will confirm to me this week.
It's a small builder company but seems not many project on hand thats why.
The GM showed me some of the drawings of the housing project. Well, it's simple and easy. Even SPM holders can do. I'm not to bluff that i'm good or what. Just that when i look thru, it's totally easy and i think i can used half day to do the whole project including pricing and submission.
Building is simple and easy. No complication. I checked thru the websites, the salary for doing this can simply get AUD70k - 80k /annum.
I'm just wondering, wat's really so important on Oz local experience?
I was lucky coz 1 of director is singaporean. That's y got chance. If not, ang moh don't even look at ur CV.
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the answer is simple, its called discrimination n double standards.

aussies thks they r superior to Asian but they actually know crap.
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post Aug 13 2013, 08:48 AM

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good to hear that.. hope good news soon :-)

QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 12 2013, 10:42 PM)
Hi guys, came back from 2nd interview. They have yet to confirm the employment coz the project have yet to secure. So, they're saying will confirm to me this week.
It's a small builder company but seems not many project on hand thats why.
The GM showed me some of the drawings of the housing project. Well, it's simple and easy. Even SPM holders can do. I'm not to bluff that i'm good or what. Just that when i look thru, it's totally easy and i think i can used half day to do the whole project including pricing and submission.
Building is simple and easy. No complication. I checked thru the websites, the salary for doing this can simply get AUD70k - 80k /annum.
I'm just wondering, wat's really so important on Oz local experience?
I was lucky coz 1 of director is singaporean. That's y got chance. If not, ang moh don't even look at ur CV.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:42 PM)
Hi guys, came back from 2nd interview. They have yet to confirm the employment coz the project have yet to secure. So, they're saying will confirm to me this week.
It's a small builder company but seems not many project on hand thats why.
The GM showed me some of the drawings of the housing project. Well, it's simple and easy. Even SPM holders can do. I'm not to bluff that i'm good or what. Just that when i look thru, it's totally easy and i think i can used half day to do the whole project including pricing and submission.
Building is simple and easy. No complication. I checked thru the websites, the salary for doing this can simply get AUD70k - 80k /annum.
I'm just wondering, wat's really so important on Oz local experience?
I was lucky coz 1 of director is singaporean. That's y got chance. If not, ang moh don't even look at ur CV.
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post Aug 13 2013, 03:07 PM

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Hi guys, finally got job confirmed. Thank God it's on! Start work next monday. Got it less than 3 weeks. Pay is better than i expected.
Thank you guys who really give the courage and support. I owe u guys.
For people who is still applying a job, don't give up. Discipline urself like applying at least 5-10 jobs per day and call them after sending.
You're not far away
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 13 2013, 03:07 PM)
Hi guys, finally got job confirmed. Thank God it's on! Start work next monday. Got it less than 3 weeks. Pay is better than i expected.
Thank you guys who really give the courage and support. I owe u guys.
For people who is still applying a job, don't give up. Discipline urself like applying at least 5-10 jobs per day and call them after sending.
You're not far away
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Good job, mate! rclxms.gif Securing a job in less than 3 weeks is remarkable!!!! flex.gif
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 13 2013, 03:07 PM)
Hi guys, finally got job confirmed. Thank God it's on! Start work next monday. Got it less than 3 weeks. Pay is better than i expected.
Thank you guys who really give the courage and support. I owe u guys.
For people who is still applying a job, don't give up. Discipline urself like applying at least 5-10 jobs per day and call them after sending.
You're not far away
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rclxms.gif Congratulations. I just started the PR application process, am worried about the job hunting

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