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post Jun 10 2013, 01:36 PM

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I got a couple of questions in mind, which I hope LYN people will be able to answer:
1. Where do I register for IELTS?
2. Do I need to attend classes or it's optional?
3. Cost of exam fee for IELTS
4. Any websites which I can learn and practice on

Thanks in advance!
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post Jun 10 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 10 2013, 05:53 PM)
1. A couple of places ie IDP or British Council. Google up their offices and give them a call.
2. Up to you, classes will require separate fees. No prerequisite that you need to attend classes before sitting for exam.
3. RM580 when I last checked in IDP
4. Plenty, just need to google.
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Thanks for the reply. Is the validity period still stuck at 2 years?
I was hoping to work for around a year or so before starting to look for jobs in Australia. Do you think one year experience is sufficient? I am currently a project coordinator in IT Infrastructure. Was thinking of getting a CCNA cert after my probation period is over smile.gif


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post Jun 11 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:03 AM)
Well, 2 years is the most ridiculous terms i could say. IELTS consist expiry date! It's something like u know how to swim, after 2 years, u seems completely forgot and get u to test whether u could remember to swim or not.
Working experience is vital especially if u're looking for jobs in Oz. If u have 5 years exp, they probably will 'tekan' u kaw kaw saying u got no local exp. But i think u could try top tier company whereby more international candidates working.
My fren got the job offer and recognise malaysia experience which they consider transferable
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That is one of my biggest concerns, actually. I was afraid that working experience in Malaysia will be deemed as irrelevant for companies in Australia. Therefore, I would like to find as much information as possible before applying for skilled migration VISA or PR. Hope someone can advise me on this, because I don't want to work for 5 years and then find out that the working experience here are not transferable.

This post has been edited by sendomike: Jun 11 2013, 10:39 AM
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post Jun 11 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(eyhc89 @ Jun 11 2013, 12:34 PM)
It depends solely on the employers. Generally employers are quite reluctant to sponsor a visa unless they have to. And I don't think all employers would scrap your Malaysian experience. If you have knowledge on something, you have it and you just have to demonstrate it in your interviews. I know someone who had a few years of experience in Malaysia, applied for his own PR and in less than a month, landed a contract job with an employer in Australia onshore. It is quite difficult to be offered a job offshore. Having said that, did you graduate from an Australian university?
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I did not graduate from an Australian university. I have a local degree in IT, majoring in Software Engineering. Since different universities may have different tiers, will that be an advantage if I graduated from a top-tier university in Malaysia? May I know how long it will take to process a PR, provided that I have all the necessary requirements?
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post Jun 11 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 11 2013, 01:14 PM)
you can look at this visa  476

if you meet the requirement, u should be able to get the PR within one year, if your case is straightforward..

Can see that you didnt read/research on the Immi to Oz topic..my advise to you is to read more (not only on LYN), and do your own research..

Google will be your best friend... dont just depend on answer given by us here :-)
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Hi annielee, thanks for the answer. you all are a great help to a newbie like me smile.gif

Cheers!
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post Jun 11 2013, 03:08 PM

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Sadly, I don't qualify because I don't have an Engineering degree.
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post Jun 11 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jun 11 2013, 08:31 PM)
Also, DIAC has extended the IELTS validity period to 3 years even though official IELTS is just 2 years.

Just search for the keyword in the link below
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1131.pdf
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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 11 2013, 09:58 PM)
Calculate your possible points first, and see if you can make 60. Look for state sponsorship for that particular job code you nominated to make sure it can reach 60.

That said, even if you do not have sufficient work experience you still need to ACS to accredit your qualifications so that you can nominate a job code in the SOL list. I'm not too sure how ACS does the accessing you might need to find out.
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Hi hihihehe and supercolossal,

Thank you so much for the advice. I am currently reading up on the migration process using the links that you guys provided smile.gif

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post Jun 11 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 11 2013, 09:58 PM)
Calculate your possible points first, and see if you can make 60. Look for state sponsorship for that particular job code you nominated to make sure it can reach 60.

That said, even if you do not have sufficient work experience you still need to ACS to accredit your qualifications so that you can nominate a job code in the SOL list. I'm not too sure how ACS does the accessing you might need to find out.
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I have read up on the nominated jobs, but I have no idea how it works. Do I need to get the state's approval or something? Can someone enlighten me on how this concept works?
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(annielee @ Jun 13 2013, 10:25 AM)
not sure which profession you are in, 1st you need to get ur skills accessed by respective org..
for eg, for IT, it will be ACS.. and it does require few years experience (more than 2, if im not wrong) to get a positive assessment..

positive skills assessment (where you will be given a ASCO code) is needed for state sponsored and general skilled visa, which will determine whether ur skills is in the list or not, if your skills is not in the list, you dont even need to think further..

given you are kinda fresh, you wont be able to get a positive assessment, and since you mentioned you cant go to the Graduate visa route either

your best option now is work for few years and apply when you qualify.. and read forums frequently for the time being..to get yourself familiar with the rules...

like myself.. i waited for a year to qualify to meet the no of years experience needed, then only i apply for it.. and i DIY coz im quite comfortable with the rules since i've already read alot of forums..and wanted to save money as well...

there's no shortcut if your skills are not in demand or u cant get employer sponsored.. unless you got a lot of money to migrate..
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Yes, I have read up on the assessment by ACS, and it requires two years of working experience. Did you apply for a visa or a PR, and how much in total did you spend on it? Will additional certificate such as PMP or CCNA /CCNP give me an advantage in applying for VISA / PR?

Thanks for the advice, it really helped a lot notworthy.gif
Cheers!
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post Jun 13 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 13 2013, 05:02 PM)
Well guys, current market is pretty quiet. I'm in the process of applying 30+ jobs from malaysia. 5 replied saying i hv to be there then only decide the interview. Will be heading there continuing job hunting.
My friend who's working there, his company is facing financial difficulties as hardly get any project so far. Seems everyone is hanging on their job from what they have now.
I think VISA/PR is not the hardest part. The question is how long can u survive there without a proper job. Odd job will help you paying bills but for how long?
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Hi, do you currently have a VISA/PR? Are you fresh grad or with working experience? From your username, it seems you are of same age as I am smile.gif
Wish you the best of luck in job hunting!

Cheers!
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post Jun 14 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 12:08 PM)
1st month might need to meet agent as more as possible. Later if no news, then might walk in to meet HR.
If 2nd month really no news, then really need to do some odd jobs. If 3rd month still no job, might heading melbourne or sydney try luck.
Based on last trip, Perth has like 1000 new immigrants coming in each week as highlighted in local newspaper and this really shocked me.
I definitely will try to invest a property there as rental is good.
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So you're trying your luck in Perth first? I have a good (rich) friend who lives there with a freakishly huge house and drives a Honda City. I visited him last year, and I really liked the people and the culture there smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jun 14 2013, 01:05 PM)
Yeah, it's freakingly cheap! i booked airasia + tax + meal + extra luggage all just RM350 one way. Even return ticket would cost less than RM400. Cheaper than travelling sabah or sarawak. DAMN! My advise is if your flying hours is less than 5 hrs, AA is not a problem. If you're travelling to NZ which takes 10 hrs. I suggest getting MAS or SG airline or QANTAS.

Immigrants mainly are skilled. There's some minor refugees which is quite minimal. I'm quite surprise with this report, however, the states is taking 1/3 of Ozzie land and i think there's plenty of space and resources to share of...don't you think?
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Cool! Hopefully I have a chance to go there in the near future. Good luck!!!

Cheers!
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post Jun 17 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ Jun 17 2013, 03:35 PM)
1. Can register at British Council or IDP
2. Classes are optional and additional cost. If you speak English daily, i think you dont have to attend the class. Just be familiar with the exam format and requirements
3. This year fees is RM610
4. You can search in Youtube for tips and guidance

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Thanks mate smile.gif
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post Jun 19 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(darkhorse_86 @ Jun 19 2013, 07:32 AM)
I thought that this linkedin discussion would be useful in answering some of your doubts regarding getting a job in Australia.
Link
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Well, that definitely paints a negative perception about the job markets in OZ.
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post Jun 21 2013, 05:23 PM

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For me, the reason I would like to migrate is more towards the lifestyle, culture, dissatisfaction with Malaysia, and weather. Money is definitely a factor, just not the biggest one.
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post Aug 1 2013, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 1 2013, 01:30 PM)
I'm in construction industry specialised in Quantity Surveyor. As far i know, if you have no local experience, you have to start from zero. Come early or later, still start all over again. I took decision to come early for my children future education sake.
So far applied like 50 over application, 10 got rejected, 2 got interview. I think the market is damn slow.
I know some angmoh who work as manager just at 25yo. 5 years exp and dunno shit. Salary hitting AUD90k/annum & above.
I think malaysian got more capability than them. Getting the 1st job is a huge challenge. Take watever junior job. after 2-3 years the salary will shoot 40% up.
Ozzie pretty glamour their local exp. and software. What you learn or work in malaysia might not really work here. So, be prepare my friend
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I really admire your courage and determination to move.
Quick question, how long should I work before I try to apply for migration? As far as I know, to have recognition from ACS (IT line), i would require a 3 year experience, at least.
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post Aug 13 2013, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:42 PM)
Hi guys, came back from 2nd interview. They have yet to confirm the employment coz the project have yet to secure. So, they're saying will confirm to me this week.
It's a small builder company but seems not many project on hand thats why.
The GM showed me some of the drawings of the housing project. Well, it's simple and easy. Even SPM holders can do. I'm not to bluff that i'm good or what. Just that when i look thru, it's totally easy and i think i can used half day to do the whole project including pricing and submission.
Building is simple and easy. No complication. I checked thru the websites, the salary for doing this can simply get AUD70k - 80k /annum.
I'm just wondering, wat's really so important on Oz local experience?
I was lucky coz 1 of director is singaporean. That's y got chance. If not, ang moh don't even look at ur CV.
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post Dec 31 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(witchx @ Dec 30 2013, 03:08 PM)
i was studying in NSW previously and also obtained PR under 457 . I believe this has been changed to 189
Landed a job prior to PR approvals as I did the mass resume handout and possibly got lucky.

Note: obtained PR 5 years back, application submission to approvals took about 7 months.

many of my mates submitted their applications about 6 months after I did back in 2007 and had to wait 5 years for PR to get approved. Had to go through 2 rounds of police check, medical.
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do share how hard it is, in today's market, to get a job there in IT? is IT really still in demand?
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post Dec 31 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 31 2013, 11:27 AM)
The demand is mostly for senior positions. A bit harder for graduates without experience though
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yea, did a search in seek and noticed that as well.. oh well.. guess i need some time gain some experience before applying smile.gif

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