canada, far more cold, totally different living condition

canada far too cold, eventhough i'm not been there but just that heard my friend told me they are goin there for children education

Guys,
I'm new here. I tried to read from this thread as much as I can. But I guess the rules of migration to Aussie changed.

Now no longer able to apply for PR directly right ? Have to apply using skill select and will only be notified / invited. Am I right ?

If so, let's say my gf (a nurse) would like to migrate there and work. She will have to take IELTS test (academic version) first and then go to skill select ? Or if appoint an agent to help up, will still need to go thru skill select ? This is the part I kinda confuse.

Secondly, I came across that for her PR as a skill employee, she will be able to take along spouse or de facto partner. Am I right ? If so, do I need to take IELTS test ? If needed, I will be taking the general training version ?

Thanks for reading guys !
Hope to hear a reply from you all soon.

Yes, you need to be invited to apply once you go through Skillselect.

Go talk to an agent, the first consultancy is free and he/she can explain the whole process for you before you decide to do it yourself or through an agent. Alternatively there are plenty of resources on the web explaining the process as well.

Hi all, I am currently working in Australia in one of the world's largest professional services firm. What I can say is I have enjoyed my life so far working in Australia. Flexible working conditions and high enough disposable income for me to travel. Reasonable working hours and have a bunch of friendly colleagues. I consider myself lucky as I graduated at the right time with the right qualification to stay in Australia. Racism is everywhere but I haven't really felt it yet in my work environment. We have good enough support that nobody 'dares' to show racism even if they wanted to. And I would be shocked to see anything like that happening here. Occasionally, I miss the food, friends and family in Malaysia, but I guess that's about it. As to the application process for PR, I can't comment about it because I applied a few years ago. And as you can see, the policy changes every year. I have a friend who hasn't had any Australian working experience who's gotten PR and currently looking for job here. And I also have a friend who graduated from first class honours in engineering from an Australian university who was jobless for a year before he got accepted into a very good firm.

This post has been edited by eyhc89: Apr 16 2013, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the reply. How about remaining of my question ?
Anyone can help ?

i will suggest you to go to agent for a free assessment...then u can decide whether to use them or diy..

if im not wrong, u need to pass your IELTS with the desired band, then only u can apply as it will determine whats your total points for the skill select for primary applicant, secondary applicant, i think u have to take the test but u just need a lower band.. both of u only need to take the General training..

again goto an agent and ask.. normally they are able to give you answer..

or goto other australia migration forums and ask..(google and find)

dun expect spoonfeed here :-) as mentioned by other the rules changes every year, not everyone will be updated with it unless someone is applying for it..
and many of us already got our PR years ago, and the rules are totally different already..

like for my case, i can apply for the PR and take the IELTS exam later (as in before the case officer assigned) and submit the results when my file is assigned to a case officer which is 6 months later...but now u must submit the results with the application.. so google and do lotsa reading..

Thanks Annie. I didn't expect to be spoon fed as well.
That's why I been contacting few agents and ask in here.
And agent advice to take up IELTS as that is the pre-requisite before anything else.

For the points, I have about 60 points in hand. While my gf still be lack of 5 points because she is not a degree holder. I'm not sure whether that will be a problem as well. But AFAR, nursing will always get the priority when applying PR, am I right ?

And, if an employer willing to sponsor a temporary working permit, with jobs, will it be better than PR without jobs ? I'm asking for nursing industry. But the temporary working permit sounds risky to me. If the employer decided not to hire you after the 2-4 years of service, you got nothing but to come back Malaysia. Am I right ? And the agent, asking for 20k for processing fees for temporary working permit

Anyway, thanks again for the reply.

again, im not sure is there any SOL list anymore (if there is im sure nurse will get additional points) if not, then u have to be the primary applicant since u got more points..

i would prefer PR and look for job if you are certain you wan to live in Aus permanently (if you got kids, then u need to have enough money to survive while u r looking for job) But if you just want to try and work in Aus, yes work permit can be your shortcut, but as you mentioned there are risks, coz if they decide to fire you, u need to leave the country in a month time unless u can find another employer to sponsor you.. and the rules might change along the road for these permit.. as now the government is tightening the 457 visa ..

there are pros and cons for both option, you need to weigh on your own which one suited u (n ur partner)

Thanks again. And yes Nurse is in SOL list
I will see how it goes. For me, my degree and profession is not in SOL list. Thus putting me as primary might drag the application.

And from IMMI web, nurses get priority processing. Thus putting my gf as priority and me as de facto partner.
Anyway, we will taking IELTS together and see how it goes.

just be prepare for de-facto apps, u need to submit a lot of evidence on tat.. thats what i heard and read..

Me an my wife did it using one application and we did it ourselves. We got the marriage certificate signed early for the PR application, but I used 'living together as de facto' for over a year to fulfill the spouse condition in our application. We did live together and have the same address for credit card bills, and that is all we submitted. No problem with the application, got the visa in four months with no questions asked.

Both of us needed to take IELTS but only one of us have to do the skill check. But that was a couple of years back too, so your circumstances might be different. Save some money for the application fees and we got the visa at the same time, so less trouble there for us.

Main applicants is compulsory to take IELTS, partner shall need to show your certificate or watsoever degree which the course is in English. If your partner has no certificate or degree, then he/she shall compulsory take IELTS general test (Reason?Make sure you can communicate well in english when you're staying there)
For nurse, it's compulsory to take academic. Check the required band coz at the end, you would required to have skill assessment by their authorised body.

Nurse need to haf Aus registration before can clear skills assessment i think.. same like doctors...

I think you have to be careful that you cannot apply if you "think" you have "about" 60 points. 60 is 60, any lesser will not make you eligible...

btw, where u guys usually take ielts? british council KL??
i was wondering, this thread says alot about getting 8 on IELTS
and wikipedia shows that Malaysia is top country with highest average.

is that means that taking IELTS in Msia is easier - at least for speaking part,
or ppl in Msia memang good

This post has been edited by ilineZ: Apr 18 2013, 07:30 PM

Is it hard to get a job as a civil engineer in Australia nowadays without a PR? I'm planning to do my master over there, but the program is only one year... need to carefully evaluate my options after that...

Either IDP or british council.
I scored >8 too on average just need lots of preparation with practice tests and good time management during the test.

What is the cost?

Exam fees is somewhere RM550. That's last year's fees. Maybe can confirm by calling them.
DIAC will based on the lowest band of 4 modules as standard, means they cannot based on average.
Ex.:
reading - 8
listening - 8
conversation - 6
writing - 8

Band result? It's band 6

It's pretty unfair for non-english speaking country but i guess they just want to make sure everyone living there could communicate english.

Is there any way to secure a job in Australia without hitting the "PR" roadblock? I've graduated from an australian university in Mechanical ENgineering Last year, but coz i did 1 year as exchange student and 1 year of International student, I am only qualified as 1 year study, thus cant apply PR using "pre" skillselect rules.

I really hope to work in Australia in the future, just that, everytime i want to apply, they always ask for Permanent Residency. And if u apply anyway, why will they choose one without PR when there are many with PR? Thats what i am thinking.

Employer sponsor is always the best of course, but that is a rare chance.