i'm comparing the quality of the material from my opinion... this is free country, free speech..

not to say to insult the insight owners here, but the meter should be not like 'sticker' meter on the tachometer... maybe upgrade to LCD panel screen meter alike...

Achieved 25km/l on city driving with Ron 95. Perfect condition, all traffic lights turns green just as I get to it.. Yeah one of those days where everything is perfect

Average, realistic figure is, city+highway, 20km/l is definitely achievable.

Naughty a bit, and I'm still getting avg of 19.5km/l

To Chan.
Short answer, u can say your fuel savings will at least ngam ngam cover ur battery cost, if unfotunately, u need a full replacement. (worst case scenario) Chances are, you won't and u'll need +ve in the end.. maybe not much to make it a 'significant' money making scenario.

Long answer.
Compare other things... Forte... no comment la, really good car for the price. If they have Forte hybrid with d tax exemption, I'll sure get!!!
But, it's korean car (perceived low resale value), and i dun fancy the design.
Heck, before I buy mine, I was waiting for the new Avante... but they din bring in fast enough, still not bring in now... :/

But if u compare with t/h u'll get a nice car for the most bang of your bucks.

Summary
FC Battery replacement cancels each other. (At 1.90 per liter) At more than that, or u're a 97 user, u'll net gain

Your 10k extra vs city, vios.
> Fully imported frm japan
> Safety features, vsa as mentioned
> Cruise control
> Auto wiper/lights.. fancy things only..
> When you close your car door, you get the very reassuring 'THUD' instead of even my friend's altis which feels light, vios city... uhm not much comment on those... havent been in one lately for a while
> NICE DASHBOARD!! Colourful, definitely something u'll come to miss when you drive another car after this.
> Good, sound system
> Steering control buttons, which entry civic also dont have.
> Glasses have built in heat reduction feature, u can save some on the tints... go with lower ratings.

Other intangible/negligible/spiritual benefits,
Regenerative braking... less need for physical braking, prolong life of ur braking system/no need replace so frequent?
Saving the world~
Added ++Turns you into a hypermiller, prolongs ur tires life

Balance it out with some negative comments.
No autolock
Autolight can be a CON too... if u care about offing lights before u start car engine. Leaving it in auto, will lights up before u hit ignition
Rear headroom. Rear passenger headroom, spotty.. 6 feeters will have uncomfortable ride. Made in japan car, intended for japanese sizes?
Middle seat not for 5.7/8 feeters.
Back view can be funny/obstructed, with the beam blocking (the facelift version improved this a bit)
Auto stop, can be annoying, if it goes into autostop, just at the precise time u want to move, you'll get a jerk as it stops, and immediately restarts.
Some comments from other ppl, who say auto stop and on the air cond, put extra strain on the Air Cond... as it stops, and on and stop and on, higher risk of spoilt/failure

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Added on December 20, 2011, 1:20 pm

Actually, I'm interested in a real world numbers from the other cars, in start stop situations too.
Remember the old honda city?
They claim to get 25++ km/l last time, with their trip from X to genting....

The FC thread in LY, not properly structured, and no one gathers the info to sum in main page....
And the ppl there are posting in a lot of different formats.. instead of the std km/l.... to make comparison easier

Went to Kah Motor Puchong Service Center (the one near the Tesco Puchong U-Turn flyover) to do my 10k service. Mentioned to the service advisor that my car have a quite a loud and prominent whistling sound coming probably from somewhere behind the dashboard on passenger side when driving at around 100km/h. No sound before 100km/h and the sound also disappear after 110km/h. The sales advisor say will get technician to drive out and test, so service will take longer than usual (he mentioned 1 and a half hour).

Walking around, I noticed my car was actually parked in the parking lot most of the time (only went into the workshop for about 20 minutes). I waited close to 3 hours and still car not ready so I go ask whether it's ready. The service advisor told me technician did test drive but did not hear any whistling sound when driving at 100km/h so ask me to come back and check again if I still hear the sound. I was wondering how come the car could have been driven out of the service center for the test drive without me noticing it, maybe I actually overlooked.

Now come the disappointing part, when I get into my car and start the engine, I noticed the milage at the MID was exactly the same reading as when I send in the car! I was like, wow, they can bring the car to 100km/h in less than 1km mileage recorded in odometer?

I didn't know Kah Motor Puchong have a wind tunnel facility inside them to test wind noise at high speed without the need of actually driving the car into highway, or, they actually have the capability to reset my odometer back to original mileage after their test drive.

I supposed service engineers normally felt car owners are just fussy, wind noise during high speed is a normal thing and a lot of the complains are just psychological effect of the car owners always wanting their car to be in perfect condition, and since it is under warranty, car owners will complain on every small things they could find.

I was in hurry so I do not have much choice and I did not make a fuss out of it, since I had wasted 3 hours sitting down there assuming they actually took my car out for test drive.

Went to Kah Motor Puchong Service Center (the one near the Tesco Puchong U-Turn flyover) to do my 10k service. Mentioned to the service advisor that my car have a quite a loud and prominent whistling sound coming probably from somewhere behind the dashboard on passenger side when driving at around 100km/h. No sound before 100km/h and the sound also disappear after 110km/h. The sales advisor say will get technician to drive out and test, so service will take longer than usual (he mentioned 1 and a half hour).

Walking around, I noticed my car was actually parked in the parking lot most of the time (only went into the workshop for about 20 minutes). I waited close to 3 hours and still car not ready so I go ask whether it's ready. The service advisor told me technician did test drive but did not hear any whistling sound when driving at 100km/h so ask me to come back and check again if I still hear the sound. I was wondering how come the car could have been driven out of the service center for the test drive without me noticing it, maybe I actually overlooked.

Now come the disappointing part, when I get into my car and start the engine, I noticed the milage at the MID was exactly the same reading as when I send in the car! I was like, wow, they can bring the car to 100km/h in less than 1km mileage recorded in odometer?

I didn't know Kah Motor Puchong have a wind tunnel facility inside them to test wind noise at high speed without the need of actually driving the car into highway, or, they actually have the capability to reset my odometer back to original mileage after their test drive.

I supposed service engineers normally felt car owners are just fussy, wind noise during high speed is a normal thing and a lot of the complains are just psychological effect of the car owners always wanting their car to be in perfect condition, and since it is under warranty, car owners will complain on every small things they could find.

I was in hurry so I do not have much choice and I did not make a fuss out of it, since I had wasted 3 hours sitting down there assuming they actually took my car out for test drive.

Went to Kah Motor Puchong Service Center (the one near the Tesco Puchong U-Turn flyover) to do my 10k service. Mentioned to the service advisor that my car have a quite a loud and prominent whistling sound coming probably from somewhere behind the dashboard on passenger side when driving at around 100km/h. No sound before 100km/h and the sound also disappear after 110km/h. The sales advisor say will get technician to drive out and test, so service will take longer than usual (he mentioned 1 and a half hour).

Walking around, I noticed my car was actually parked in the parking lot most of the time (only went into the workshop for about 20 minutes). I waited close to 3 hours and still car not ready so I go ask whether it's ready. The service advisor told me technician did test drive but did not hear any whistling sound when driving at 100km/h so ask me to come back and check again if I still hear the sound. I was wondering how come the car could have been driven out of the service center for the test drive without me noticing it, maybe I actually overlooked.

Now come the disappointing part, when I get into my car and start the engine, I noticed the milage at the MID was exactly the same reading as when I send in the car! I was like, wow, they can bring the car to 100km/h in less than 1km mileage recorded in odometer?

I didn't know Kah Motor Puchong have a wind tunnel facility inside them to test wind noise at high speed without the need of actually driving the car into highway, or, they actually have the capability to reset my odometer back to original mileage after their test drive.

I supposed service engineers normally felt car owners are just fussy, wind noise during high speed is a normal thing and a lot of the complains are just psychological effect of the car owners always wanting their car to be in perfect condition, and since it is under warranty, car owners will complain on every small things they could find.

I was in hurry so I do not have much choice and I did not make a fuss out of it, since I had wasted 3 hours sitting down there assuming they actually took my car out for test drive.

Just send to other bigger Honda SC la..then call Honda toll free and complaint to them. btw, did u install any cobra gps alarm? if yes then maybe u have to tell them earlier becos maybe they didnt install the device properly, maybe screw loosen.. jus take note as it happened to my fren's insight..

Went to Kah Motor Puchong Service Center (the one near the Tesco Puchong U-Turn flyover) to do my 10k service. Mentioned to the service advisor that my car have a quite a loud and prominent whistling sound coming probably from somewhere behind the dashboard on passenger side when driving at around 100km/h. No sound before 100km/h and the sound also disappear after 110km/h. The sales advisor say will get technician to drive out and test, so service will take longer than usual (he mentioned 1 and a half hour).

Walking around, I noticed my car was actually parked in the parking lot most of the time (only went into the workshop for about 20 minutes). I waited close to 3 hours and still car not ready so I go ask whether it's ready. The service advisor told me technician did test drive but did not hear any whistling sound when driving at 100km/h so ask me to come back and check again if I still hear the sound. I was wondering how come the car could have been driven out of the service center for the test drive without me noticing it, maybe I actually overlooked.

Now come the disappointing part, when I get into my car and start the engine, I noticed the milage at the MID was exactly the same reading as when I send in the car! I was like, wow, they can bring the car to 100km/h in less than 1km mileage recorded in odometer?

I didn't know Kah Motor Puchong have a wind tunnel facility inside them to test wind noise at high speed without the need of actually driving the car into highway, or, they actually have the capability to reset my odometer back to original mileage after their test drive.

I supposed service engineers normally felt car owners are just fussy, wind noise during high speed is a normal thing and a lot of the complains are just psychological effect of the car owners always wanting their car to be in perfect condition, and since it is under warranty, car owners will complain on every small things they could find.

I was in hurry so I do not have much choice and I did not make a fuss out of it, since I had wasted 3 hours sitting down there assuming they actually took my car out for test drive.