Ahh...how capital it would be if utilities, amenities, so on and so forth to be divided for you and for me. Best of two worlds, eh? A piece for each and everyone in jolly, good mood. Towards world peace!

Regards, Joey

Joey, sometimes, there are lots of things which to me, dont even make sense or sometimes i can say it as ridculous, but it is practised in such a manner. But, to respect them, we follows what they practise. Anyway, it is not too hard for us to keeping with their way.

I believe you are staying in Malaysia. May i suggest that you travel a bit more to learn more what the local culture is all about. Seeing new things and different life style can be exciting and adventrous as well, however i do not mean that there will be lots of culture shock to be unearthed for you.

As usual, this is what we define ADULTS. But it still entertained up to 18pages..

The tread more towards how exciting the LIFE of experienced baby boomers..

Tigerr,

<<i can say it as ridculous, but it is practised in such a manner. But, to respect them, we follows what they practise. Anyway, it is not too hard for us to keeping with their way. >>

WHY?? Respect is a TWO way street.

My family had been in Klang for 150+ years. What RESPECT did we get?? We were FORCED out of our jobs and businesses. WE are the LOCAL CULTURE.

Joey's family had been in Malaysia even longer. What RESPECT did his / her culture get??

This is THE PROBLEM!!

We are a MULTI-CULTURAL society. We are NOT a single culture society. Nobody should FORCE anybody to follow their practice.

<<I believe you are staying in Malaysia. May i suggest that you travel a bit more to learn more what the local culture is all about. >>

IMHO, YOU are the one that is CLUELESS..

Dreamer

Manusia mana pernah cukup....

samurai7,

That is NOT the problem.

If a person is willing to put in the EFFORT to get what they want, more power to them.

Dreamer

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Added on September 2, 2011, 8:01 pmTigerr,

Yes, there is RISK in (A). Now, if somebody choose © aka a SAFER choice, should that person WHINE when people choosing (A) is more successful?? People that choose (A) took the RISK. They are NOT willing to settle for LESS.

Dreamer


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 2 2011, 08:01 PM

Fine... I agree if I bring pork to eat in front of them.

What if they bring themselves in front of my pork? Do I put away my pork because they've arrived, or should they go somewhere else away from my pork?

The correct solution would be to get another microwave. Why do you have to dispose of the old one?

My company's pantry has 2 microwaves. One for halal food, the other for non-halal food.

I agree that amenities and utensils for halal and non-halal food should not be mixed. But it does not mean that non-halal must always give way.

Like Dreamer said, respect is a 2 way street.

I respect you by offering to compromising. You respect me by refusing my offer. Then each of us do our own thing, on our own time, with our own money. We both go out of our way to avoid each other. Alternatively, we can take turns compromising.

Respect is when we allow each other space to do our own thing.

This post has been edited by seantang: Sep 2 2011, 08:56 PM

can we get back on topic?

dafreak,

MY POINT which somebody keep on diverting away from is this.

If a person is FACED with an environment that WILL NOT utlized his / her capability,

A) It is UP to the person to find out and realize that this is what he faced with.

B) Figured out whether it is WORTHWHILE for the person to wait this out.

C) Or, take a risk and move to somewhere else.


Whining about WHY the world / environment will not change for him is USELESS.

If the person CHOOSE to stay in that environment, do not WHINE if some other people that move away is successful.

The UNFORTUNATE part of this is YOU as an individual has to figure this out whether this ENVIRONMENT is fixable. YOU are bearing the RISK of this decision.

In many ways, this is SIMILAR in dating and investing in any long term relationship.

A person NEEDS to put a limit on how long that him / her is willing to stay in a unrewarding environment / situation. Or else, it will be TOO LATE. A person has LIMITED lifespan and energy to be wasted...

Dreamer

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Added on September 2, 2011, 10:14 pmseantang,

To show the hypocrisy of this kind of problem,

Most Indians are vegetarian. Why nobody THINK about it might be OFFENSIVE to them for people to eat meat in front of them?? WHY they have to TOLERATE everyone else??

Some people WANT others to tolerate them. But, they REFUSE to tolerate OTHERS.

Dreamer

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 2 2011, 10:14 PM

so the main point is how you use/utilise what you have/around you, not ask/wish for what's not there?

if you are able to do that = above average?

im sure not all 'average' people whines, they just wont step out of their comfort zone << so are those "average"

p/s: as pointed out, respect is a two way street and let's get back on topic

This post has been edited by dafreak: Sep 2 2011, 10:55 PM

dafreak,

No, that is ONE of the 3 items.

Go back and read the first post of this thread.

Dreamer

This is true enough.. Until know I'm still thinking how to become ABOVE AVERAGE.. I would like to be someone that my company can't find replacement for my place.. You know what I mean..?

Until now I'm still thinking HOW..?

mieza,

<<I would like to be someone that my company can't find replacement for my place..>>

Wrong idea!!!

1) If you cannot be replaced, that means you CANNOT BE PROMOTED. Are you HAPPY to do the SAME JOB and get the SAME PAY forever??

2) Why be DEPENDENT on one company?? What if the company gone to hell??

<<Until know I'm still thinking how to become ABOVE AVERAGE..>>

3) What had you DONE to be BETTER everyday??

4) What is YOUR PLAN to improve yourself everyday??

Dreamer

P.S.: I worked to be replaceable everyday. All my old task are documented and can be done by someone else. Hence, I am FREE to LEARN and DO NEW THING. Meanwhile, everyone else are STUCK doing the SAME OLD THING for many many years...

Do you SEE the difference in MENTALITY??

This post has been edited by dreamer101: Sep 3 2011, 09:01 AM

Not totally correct too. It's possible for people to create the dependency to the extend the company have to promote him/her in order to keep him/her.
What is your view on this?

People first whine after a few years of working because they still cling to the student mentality, thinking efforts will be appreciated and up a notch when experience increases. Also company politic, those are the first lessons and a rude awakening to the term REALITY is cruel.

They will hop to another company hoping to start over or afraid starting over and wasted all the previous efforts, which ever the case when they reached 30 and life issues caught up; car near end of installment, need money to get marry, downpayment for a house... How much time can be spent on self improvement along with those issues? Old fella went through it in a different era and forgot how it felt like, those who managed well or lucky enough are relieved but not so for those who failed and still in misery. You won't see those here because they couldn't or don't F care.

So, you ended up hearing one sided story and I am the type who got stuck in the middle, hence midlife crisis loh Who do you think dare to challenge the RICH? Not the failure but a nobody until somebody, I was so ashamed to have failed after putting in so much efforts and determine to find out why, what and how I failed but no, I did not fail. It is the people who I dealt with failed me, I have never failed to make progress and improvement and that is why I last so long living like a failure.

What kept me going is because I did not fail to upgrade knowing it is the only way to break the norm, reality is a condition set by more selfish business / rich man than the noble. They dictate the market and set low wage value because business is all about money, as long as one can survive, its good enough to find ways but in the expense of time and that means years because an hour or two a day isn't much depends on the goal / field. After which, you need to test out the idea or get feed back from industry player and if you choose to show it to your immediate superior, you either asking for trouble or a promotion.

Think how will you feel if you are those hardcore stubborn seniors who have no where to go and what they will do to make sure you don't excel, this is unavoidable because human factor is the major obstacle everywhere and making deals is not technical but often based on relationship, so how to introduce yourself to people you don't know is an art of communication along with your worthiness and the plan / work you have put in that matters to small or big establishment.

arthurlwf,

1) What if the company DO NOT SURVIVE?? I had seen too many companies come and gone to count on this.

2) I prefer STRATEGY that improve your CAPABILITY so that you can go ANYWHERE and PROSPER.

Now, I would like YOU to explain / describe / illustrate what kind of DEPENDENCY that will not prevent a person from GROWING and DOING new thing?? I cannot think of one so far..

Dreamer

If old task is wasting your time then it is better to give someone else.. BUT you need some skills that makes you cannot be replaced by anyone else..

Or else be prepared to be replace n kick out by company..

nobody is indispensable

Sometimes, bosses is more afraid of those who try to make themselves indispensable, not good for the company if the fella die all of a sudden in an accident.