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post Sep 21 2011, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2011, 12:50 AM)
That's because one is a tele another is a wide. It's just at that moment you need a wide more than a tele, so you feel that the wide is very good to use. Imagine you need to shoot a bird, which will be your 'best' lens that time?
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Well, what im saying is, 70-200 on D5100 feel weird, maybe just me. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:29 AM)
Well, since im using DX, 70-200 seems to long, 17-55 just nice.

Also, D5100 so small the body, with 70-200 attached, its hard to handle.
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Ahh... then I think the definition of 'best' lens is vague here. It should be better suit your needs or easier to use.
In general, the better should be talking about overall (e.g. built quality, image quality, performance, etc).

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post Sep 21 2011, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:14 AM)
Ahh... then I think the definition of 'best' lens is vague here. It should be better suit your needs or easier to use.
In general, the better should be talking about overall (e.g. built quality, image quality, performance, etc).
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In that case, the 70200 would be the obvious winner tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 20 2011, 11:04 PM)
so is the 17-55 worth the money? biggrin.gif
btw, i also find its slightly unbalance even on a D7000, thats why got battery grip.
If you mount a 24-70mm f/2.8 or a 14-24mm f/2.8 lens, it'lll be more unbalanced then.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:19 AM)
Best? Better than the 70-200?

Btw, the 17-55mm f/2.8 is bigger than 24-70mm f/2.8
The 24-70mm f/2.8 is bigger than the 17-55mm f/2.8.

83 x 133 mm vs 85.5 x 110.5mm
900 grams vs 755 grams
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 07:51 AM)
In that case, the 70200 would be the obvious winner tongue.gif
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That's why I was surprised when I first read which was the 'best' lens tongue.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 21 2011, 09:27 AM)
The 24-70mm f/2.8 is bigger than the 17-55mm f/2.8.

83 x 133 mm vs 85.5 x 110.5mm
900 grams vs 755 grams
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I was also surprised, was at Nikon BTS that day with Calvin, he mounted the 24-70 on the D5100, while I have 17-55 on the D7K, somehow, the 24-70mm looks thinner and smaller.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 10:22 AM)
That's why I was surprised when I first read which was the 'best' lens  tongue.gif
I was also surprised, was at Nikon BTS that day with Calvin, he mounted the 24-70 on the D5100, while I have 17-55 on the D7K, somehow, the 24-70mm looks thinner and smaller.
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24-70 has slightly smaller diameter, but is longer.
28-70 is a different story tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:09 PM

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http://nikon.com/news/2011/0921_digital_01.htm

Nikon Mirrorless Camera announced!
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Sep 21 2011, 12:09 PM)
http://nikon.com/news/2011/0921_digital_01.htm

Nikon Mirrorless Camera announced!
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:38 PM

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just saw those nikon mirroless.... but bit disappointed becoz it used such a puny sensor (smaller than m43)
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Was wondering what will be the sensor size of this guy.
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2.7 crop factor based on the below engadget first hand info.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/nikon-u...p-cmos-2-7-inc/
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:45 PM)
2.7 crop factor based on the below engadget first hand info.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/nikon-u...p-cmos-2-7-inc/
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Need a 18mm lens just to reach 50mm in 35mm film equivalent.. lol
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:43 PM)
Was wondering what will be the sensor size of this guy.
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Previous rumoured around the same size as high end compacts, e.g. Panasonic LX5.

Anyway, DPReview mentioned the reason behind such small sensor... is not to disrupt DSLR sales/market?
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:02 PM)
Previous rumoured around the same size as high end compacts, e.g. Panasonic LX5.

Anyway, DPReview mentioned the reason behind such small sensor... is not to disrupt DSLR sales/market?
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If such a small camera can be as good as a DSLR, then DSLR already need to be so high performance like medium format camera, e.g. Hasselblad ...tongue.gif
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disrupt or not.... it already been taken by others loh.... Sony and Samsung i chewing the mirroless market with large sensor + compact body.

But one thing i dun understand is.... the price for those camera are same as Nex c3..... and i think nex c3 is way better.
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:05 PM)
If such a small camera can be as good as a DSLR, then DSLR already need to be so high performance like medium format camera, e.g. Hasselblad ...tongue.gif
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Why not? Someone gonna do it, Sony and Samseng already did. People who know and understamd, will go for the larger sensor, plus the price value you're paying for a APS-C vs a high end compact sensor.

Nikon's attraction would be the adapter which can use F Mount lenses, but the puny sensor... It does have hybrid auto-focus.

ISO from 100-3200, while 6400 in Hi mode.

In this case, I think the Pentax Q is more interesting and more profesional? It's smaller? small lens, interesting lens,etc.

Finally, if Canon comes out with a APS-C size sensor mirrorless, it'll be like a big slap on the face of Nikon?

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ermm, nice design but the sensor is a bit too small leh. but if attach it with the fixed 10mm lens hor, it looks small

it is basically still a coolpix

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post Sep 21 2011, 01:29 PM

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The V1 and J1 share nearly identical specs, with the latter model sporting some fairly minor tweaks. Both ILCs include 10.1 megapixel CMOS sensors, HDMI / USB connectivity, a 1200fps slo-mo capture mode (!), 3-inch LCDs, 10fps shooting, high-res electronic viewfinders, and full HD (1080/30p) video capture -- though 720/60p and 1080/60i modes are thrown in for good measure. The J1 touts a built-in flash, 73-point AF system, dual-core EXPEED processing engine, and a ritzy phone detect system, while the V1 boasts an EVF and supports an external flash, as well as a mechanical shutter, stereo microphone input, a "multi-accessory port" and a magnesium alloy chassis.


1200 fps slo-mo capture mode!? shocking.gif

is that the only one compact/EVIL got this feature?
maybe this explain why they use smaller sensor to make a sharp image? hmm.gif


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