You sure it's a 3K lens?

Anyway, why do you need the Sigma? Do you require f/1.4?

You would be very happy with the Nikon 50mm f/1.8G for much less.

I'm not so worried about the green cast but more so on the weird background bokeh.

What filter are you using?

Test a CZ lens? I thought Shriro was carrying them.

Yeah, should be about that price. Becareful about warranty since you would probably not get local support if you require calibration assistance.

But still the AF-S 50mm f/1.8G is half that price and you don't need to worry about anything.

What are the reasons that are making you still decide that are really making you consider f/1.4?

From what I've read, the new 1.8G beats the 1.4D.

Zeiss or Nikon?

Sorry but it may be your style. I find the lens flare you put in PP a little annoying after a while. Two or three pics in a series is fine but putting it in almost all your pics is a little overdone.

I think the issue is not because one has AF-S and the other not. It's because that the 1.8G (which happens to have AF-S) is a sharper lens wide open and better performance at other apertures compared to the 1.8D.

Even buying the D3X alone is difficult. But my guess is you can get the D3X with the Zeiss lens at Keat Camera.

Anyway, what I read was digiloyd got a sample of the ZF mount and wanted to do a head to head test with Nikon's 35mm f/1.4 but had to return the Zeiss due to some problems.

Don't just trust me. Find out and read it for yourself.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/ix-lenses.htm

They are referring to lenses like the older AF 85mm f/1.4D and the AF-S 85mm f/1.4G where the newer G lens just marginally better.

If you want a real good book on the D7000, get Thom Hogan's one.

For bodies, please don't purchase them in SG or HK unless you're not interested in getting warranty and support as bodies only have local warranty (i.e. support only where the body is purchased). It's ok if you purchase Nikon lenses because they have international warranty.

I've actually no problems with my AF 85mm f/1.4D. I have not tried the new AF-S 85mm f/1.4. I know I cannot compare the focus motor on the AF-S 35mm f/1.4 and the AF-S 24mm f/1.4 to the one on the AF-S 85mm f/1.4 as they are both so so in terms of acquiring focus but if they are anything like it, you need to know the limitations of the lens and how to "coax" the lens into acquiring focus. Getting an AF-S lens does not automatically give you instant results if you do not know how to use it. A pro body like the D700 / D300 helps.

Anyway, I bet your friend will still not get accurate focus if technique is not correct with the AF-S lens. He would think that he acquired focus but he would be dissapointed when he looks on the screen.

Of course having said the above, I would not mine the AF-S 85mm f/1.4 if you given one.

The question keeps going round and round like a merry-go-round.

Welcome. What is orange country?

Which Nikon model did you get?

I think if you have sufficient photography experience from another brand, it should be fine on the Nikon. Just need to get used to the buttons. That's all. Just like driving a new car with unfamiliar controls. But that does not mean you need to take L driving license again, right?

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Added on July 16, 2011, 11:03 amI think 0168257061 was referring in the context of using it on film body.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Jul 16 2011, 11:03 AM

f/1.4 at 85mm is very thin DoF. The camera may think it achieved focus but that's what the camera thinks. I'm sure that in your shooting, you'd find almost 50% (if not more) of your shots even though nice but when viewed at 100%, it locks on a different body part rather than the intended eyes.

In this respect, both 1.4D and 1.4G will achieve the same results because focus is determined by the body.

I will only go so far as to say that the speed of focus acquisition, the AF-S will acquire focus faster but in terms of focus accuracy, that's pretty even since it's on a same body. For non-action type shooting, you can take all the time to lock focus. Faster or slower, you'll still achieve it.

Focus hunting? Yes the D lens will hunt and because it's slower, you'd think that it hunts a lot. The AF-S lenses also hunt but they recover faster since the motor is fast and hence less frustrating for the user.

Partly true but it would depend on the type of body. But from the back of mind, you can mount G lens on newer film bodies but would only work in Aperture mode.

No.

Excellent !

I guess I need to get myself a 1.4G and shoot more.

Never held the AF-S 85mm f/1.4G before. If under extreme low light, I only rely and use the 15 cross type sensor to focus.

Agree on all accounts except for #1. I would they are about equal and would depend on how you handle it.

That's why I mentioned that I will not refuse if you give me the new AF-S 85mm f/1.4G to replace my AF 85mm f/1.4D.

The one thing I like (and miss) about AF-S lenses is the ability to override the attained final focus manually if required by twisting the focus barrel.

Aiks... Baru lagi sudah kena buli.

No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down.

What was shocking?

Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools.

The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen.

Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest.

Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing.

My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion?

Did you have to crop?

A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0?

To be frank, I don't shoot enough to warrant a change of my current 1.4D to have the latest and greatest. I did not just buy my 1.4D yesterday. I bought mine in 2007.

True enough, you forgot this one existed...

AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 IF-ED
1580g

Nikon stashed it deep to keep it hidden !

http://www.nikon.com.my/productitem.php?pid=792-74eba6f338

Seems like I replied before to this question too;

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry42552942

Yes, that's the beauty of DX bodies in general and the D7000 specifically. Loads of MP to crop.

Well, it's actually 1580g. I believe you got the 1550g figure from KR which he does not include the humungous HB-17 hood.

No worries. I was not referring to you because besides you personally testing the lens at BTS and giving your opinions, you always mention that at the end of the day, the person needs to try it out for himself.

Anyway, I'm not saying that one cannot go to BTS to try and test lenses before buying but then please be reminded that in that short time, you can just make first impressions of the item you're "testing".

Indeed the two touch "feels" heavier because the VR2 (and VR1) is slimmer and easier to handle.

What lenses are you planning to keep with the AP-68EX?

Good point about using 2 smaller units vs 1 big unit. Eh, you afraid your flash will get moldy? Don't forget to store your batteries as well.


Ok, understood. I base my summary on owning 6 AF-S lenses and 4 AF-D lenses.

Yup. Pro AF-S f/2.8 lenses like the 14-24mm f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8 and the 80-200mm f/2.8 that I have focuses very fast indeed but in low light, they too can fail if not handled correctly. But likelihood of that happening is not as bad as say from the 24mm f/1.4 or the 35mm f/1.4. My AF-D 20-35mm f/2.8, 18mm f/2.8 and of course the 85mm f/1.4 in that sense focuses more reliably on the D700 in low light than those two f/1.4 lenses.

How convenient !

DX lenses (or FX lenses for that matter) still crops on DX bodies. DX lenses just mean that these lenses are optimised for the centre part of the lens = cheaper to produce.

I hope you do not confuse vignetting and crop...

Aiks... You forgot the AF-S 35mm f/1.4.

If he meant vignetting, yes. Using a DX lens on FX body produces vignetting which is not too bad. Look for samples of using the 35mm f/1.8 on FX body.

Picture 3 is incorrect. You will still have crop in a DX lens on a DX sensor. Only the centre part of the DX lens is used. The sides are not.

In retrospect, Picture 3 will be correct if it was an FX sensor. It utilises fully the glass area of the DX. That is why you get vignetting when using DX lens on FX sensor because the sides of the DX glass remains unusable.

Aiyah... Good post but must you use a Canon example in a Nikon thread?

Nikon has a lens simulator and you can try any type of lens on DX or FX body and it'll give real time image rendition. You have 3 images that you can choose as your test example.

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/index.htm

Before jumping onto conclusions, can you point out where did the camera focus on? What focus was used? AF-S, AF-C or AF-A? You can open up the pic in View NX2 and locate where the camera finally decided to focus on.

I believe KTCY is still on D90. So the 35mm (one.point.four I presume) would be nice. 50mm would be too tight.

28mm f/2.8 or 28mm f/1.4? That f/1.4 is almost non-existent now and besides, the new 24mm f/1.4 is much better at relatively cheaper prices.

Which brand? You're considering Samyang?

On a side note, I thought I saw some pics of you playing with the T/S lens. Is that correct?

The f/1.4? How much did you get it?

The 35mm f/2.0 is great but I believe KTCY had that already and sold it off because not too pleased with it.

Looks fine.

Errr, sorry. Forget about it since I just saw the EXIF.

Apparently digiloyd just posted a summary of his review of the new Zeiss lens with a D3X.

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2011/20110718_1-Z...4-examples.html





The 28mm f/1.4 is one of a kind glass that is hand grounded (polished). It is said that it was more of a nocturnal type of lens and it's ability to get sharp images wide open. But then the new 24mm f/1.4 did it one better and was even sharper in the centre as well as the sides wide open.

If I recall, the USB cable is the same like any other USB cable. Just get a longer one from any IT shop.

Download the latest 1.02 firmware, get an empty memory card, charge your batteries fully and follow these instructions;

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answe...vQ09vQmh3ems%3D

This subject has been debated a lot here recently and on the internet.

The thing is it depends on what you want to do. What lenses do you already have? What kind of photography are you into? Events / wedding day? If yes, the 17-55 is more favoured on the DX body.