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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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post Sep 21 2011, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:12 PM)
disrupt or not.... it already been taken by others loh.... Sony and Samsung i chewing the mirroless market with large sensor + compact body.

But one thing i dun understand is.... the price for those camera are same as Nex c3..... and i think nex c3 is way better.
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IMHO Sony Nex is the best compact camera you can ever get. Due to the sensor.

Also if the sensor is small, the price should be reasonable too.
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:18 PM)
Why not? Someone gonna do it, Sony and Samseng already did. People who know and understamd, will go for the larger sensor, plus the price value you're paying for a APS-C vs a high end compact sensor.

Nikon's attraction would be the adapter which can use F Mount lenses, but the puny sensor... It does have hybrid auto-focus.

ISO from 100-3200, while 6400 in Hi mode.

In this case, I think the Pentax Q is more interesting and more profesional? It's smaller? small lens, interesting lens,etc.

Finally, if Canon comes out with a APS-C size sensor mirrorless, it'll be like a big slap on the face of Nikon?
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even u snap those nikon lens on it the puny 2.7x crop factor will make those lens become long distance zoom lens
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:59 PM

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I WANT THE PINK J1! thumbup.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:04 PM

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Now that I see you can use the mount on those cameras, you can do amazing stuff like mounting a 1200mm f/11 lens on that baby.
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:06 PM

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I noticed the 73 AF phase detection... interesting... biggrin.gif module for upcoming DSLR? tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:11 PM

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Better pics for the size

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and cant help but lol at this (not sure why laugh.gif)

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hopefully i not slowpoke with this pics tongue.gif

owh and more pics can be find here http://dpreview.com/news/1109/11092118atthelaunch.asp
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:56 PM)
even u snap those nikon lens on it the puny 2.7x crop factor will make those lens become long distance zoom lens
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Yea, you can get nice telephoto range tongue.gif
But, with f/1.8 or f/1.4, the DOF will be very different from DSLR.
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:13 PM)
Yea, you can get nice telephoto range  tongue.gif
But, with f/1.8 or f/1.4, the DOF will be very different from DSLR.
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they target newbie right?
newbie like smaller sensor for sharper photo? tongue.gif
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:27 PM

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Anyone know how much it take to clean a d90 sensor? Thanks
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:15 PM)
they target newbie right?
newbie like smaller sensor for sharper photo?  tongue.gif
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No idea, the price is not cheap either; and there're so many competition available, especially the GF3. Remember recent DigitalRevTV video comparing between LX5 and GF3. The Nikon mirrorless would be something like LX5 but with interchangeable lens and better performance, but actually, you may notice many compact users want to achieve the shallow DOF and "bokehlicious", which they can't get from their compacts (unless they do close up/macro; which even Nokia N8 can do it).

So, question is, for people moving from compact to mirrorless, will they choose Nikon mirrorless or the competition out there? Unless they prefer Nikon brand or looks, or?
For smaller/compact size, I think Pentax Q might be even more interesting and with the tiny small lens, there's up to 7 or 8 lens available, numbered by 1, 2, 3, 4... and the operation is more towards professional, etc.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be it's own category of users/fans, just that, I don't see it able to compete much. More if Canon announce their mirrorless with larger sensor and more tempting features.
I remember NikonRumors posted a poll about who will buy, the result was very negative, but who knows because maybe someone will change their mind after seeing the real thing and the special features.

If this doesn't sell well, wonder what will happen. The worst is those who bought it and has to suffer the fate.
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:38 PM

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Only reason I consider the Nikon mirrorless, it is able to use my current Nikkor lens with adapter ._.

200mm x 2.7, yummy! 540mm.. imagine J1/V1 with 70200 VR2 lols.
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post Sep 21 2011, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 21 2011, 01:19 PM)
it is basically still a coolpix
Agreed. An expensive Coolpix.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 21 2011, 02:38 PM)
Only reason I consider the Nikon mirrorless, it is able to use my current Nikkor lens with adapter ._.

200mm x 2.7, yummy! 540mm.. imagine J1/V1 with 70200 VR2 lols.
Indeed. 300mm f/4 mounted would give 810mm f/4 equivalent ! shocking.gif Great for birding.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:45 PM)
Agreed. An expensive Coolpix.
Indeed. 300mm f/4 mounted would give 810mm f/4 equivalent !  shocking.gif Great for birding.
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I think if mount a puny body to a 300mm, the lens itself already much bigger than the body, can act like a lens cover too... so imba!
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:59 PM)
I think if mount a puny body to a 300mm, the lens itself already much bigger than the body, can act like a lens cover too... so imba!
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post Sep 21 2011, 03:13 PM

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but then again.... even if u have the telephoto range for ur lens the DOF still affected by the sensor size.... just look at those M43 even if they are f1.8 or lower they still cant get the same bokehness as of bigger sensor.
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post Sep 21 2011, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 21 2011, 03:13 PM)
but then again.... even if u have the telephoto range for ur lens the DOF still affected by the sensor size.... just look at those M43 even if they are f1.8 or lower they still cant get the same bokehness as of bigger sensor.
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Yes, but how much difference I'm not sure. DX and FX have difference too, but FX is have more shallow DOF and bokeh?
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post Sep 21 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 21 2011, 03:22 PM)
Yes, but how much difference I'm not sure. DX and FX have difference too, but FX is have more shallow DOF and bokeh?
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yup
the bigger the sensor/film, the shallower the DOF is.

on the other hand: usd 900 for the V1 + 10-30VR kit lens is expensive leh

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Let's give it 1USD:RM3, that'd be RM2700 for a V1 + 27-81mm kitlens... expensive? VERY!
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:45 PM)
Agreed. An expensive Coolpix.
Indeed. 300mm f/4 mounted would give 810mm f/4 equivalent !  shocking.gif Great for birding.
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Now I have chance to shoot moon and birds closer up if I get one of those xD

QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 21 2011, 04:14 PM)
yup
the bigger the sensor/film, the shallower the DOF is.

on the other hand: usd 900 for the V1 + 10-30VR kit lens is expensive leh
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Let's wait for the street price =)
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come to v12 vroom vroom -> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2041651/+0#entry45480851

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