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post Jul 26 2011, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jul 26 2011, 10:10 AM)
no company on earth will pay $8k to an intern and make him do photocopies and faxes.
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If there is...I would not mind being an intern for a few years. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Jul 26 2011, 09:31 AM)
I'm in a pretty similar as u....2years in SG then went back for kl for around 18months then now back here in SG for just over a year
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Yeah actually I am si beh curious on why you do that? Considering of going back to KL but held back by the juicy exchange rate.
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Jul 26 2011, 07:58 AM)
Australia is better than us now. Earn aud tospend STD there. Tofind wife in St difficult, you have to ear 5c
So?


Added on July 26, 2011, 10:41 am
QUOTE(icycokes @ Jul 26 2011, 10:00 AM)
thats interesting. mind sharing more with regards to the intern's job scope since he is earning $8K and he has to work 16 hours a day because as far as i know internship in those BBs means office assistant work as in running errands, but mostly doing photocopy and fax.
Obviously, it's not just to photocopy and fax, right?

Even our intern is doing hands-on credit reviews and maintenance of our customer credit info database.

Since I'm not at GS, I don't know the job scope... but he's paid the same as a fresh analyst... so I'd expect he'd be doing all the spreadsheets, data crunching and drafting reports like the other analysts.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jul 26 2011, 10:41 AM
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jul 26 2011, 09:35 AM)
can ask why u go back to KL that time ?  smile.gif
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I was all alone in Singapore...didn't have much friends....then due to work wise...i could move from a reseller/dealer position to an outsource team(KL branch) under the principal...there's an unsaid rule...also not nice mah...imagine your principal company korek their businesspartner/dealers/resellers employees.

So since it was still an outsource team..means i'm a contractor and my principal company is my client. So still worked out lor...then got a move from the outsource team based in KL branch back then to a perm position in the SG branch, pretty similar job description.
Also while I was back in KL found myself a lovely partner, whom moved to SG to work...so in that sense...this speed up my process in trying to find a job back in SG. Got a PR before I came back to kl to work, so the move wasnt that hard....nor easy either

How about u?

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post Jul 26 2011, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Jul 26 2011, 10:28 AM)
Yeah actually I am si beh curious on why you do that?  Considering of going back to KL but held back by the juicy exchange rate.
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YA, this is why so many wanted to go back KL... but when they think twice again, still refuse to return malaysia due to SGD is too strong to resist.

So, they continue to stay here for decades, and finally slowly settle down, purchased a HDB, started a family, raise thier own children here, convert into a Singapore citizenship, then another 2 decades passed.... your children then graduated from NUS and continue to work in Singapore and life just goes on from here....

Many of my colleagues and friends are like this.

LoL, life is short, make-up your mind, get a firm decision. Tell yourself 5 years is 5 years, then after 5 years MUST return to malaysia. Unless you are foreveralone, then you can go anywhere and anytime you like.
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 26 2011, 10:38 AM)
So?


Added on July 26, 2011, 10:41 amObviously, it's not just to photocopy and fax, right?

Even our intern is doing hands-on credit reviews and maintenance of our customer credit info database.

Since I'm not at GS, I don't know the job scope... but he's paid the same as a fresh analyst... so I'd expect he'd be doing all the spreadsheets, data crunching and drafting reports like the other analysts.
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so u working in a bank...? blush.gif same line as me... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:55 AM

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i hav delays in replying coz i dont access internet all the time...

for those who r not pumping RON95 back in msia, get a msian CC or borrow it from ur family to pump ler... why pay more unless ur car must run RON97

i dont hav a car here in sg, but i was jz back in kl using my family car n i noticed pump attendant nvr comes out from their shop to see what im doing esp if ur car is far from the counter....

jz my suggestion dont flame me if u dont believe, u can drive watever car but pandai-pandai la, try this:
1. pump at wee hrs, where attendants will stay inside shop
2. pump at a big petrol kiosk where u can pump far away from the shop
3. hav a msia cc, when ppl tell u, u pretend dont know jz pump n go la, where got police so free come to petrol kiosk check u
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 26 2011, 09:26 AM)
I wonder if the graduating class includes MBAs.

Anyway, my colleagues found out that while we were paying our finance intern $1000, Goldman Sachs was paying his classmate $8000, basically a graduate analyst's salary.

But our intern comes in at 9am, leaves by 6pm. Work is junior stuff. The GS intern apparently works 16hour days and weekends.
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$8k per month for 16hrs days and weekend work is not too high actually. What surprised me is the 16hrs work, which is not allow under MOM, max allowable is only 12 hrs per day.
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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Jul 25 2011, 09:35 PM)
true, but i tot this thread suppose to let people sharing info on working in singapore?

chatting is one of the way of sharing info though, at least they are not talking crap like those in kopitiam.
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If I have it my way, some of the frequent posters here will have most of their post deleted, post count reset and warn.

If chatting is one way of sharing info, then clearly you have no qualms if this is moved to kopitiam. Guess I have to start removing post which are irrelevant


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post Jul 26 2011, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 26 2011, 09:26 AM)
I wonder if the graduating class includes MBAs.

Anyway, my colleagues found out that while we were paying our finance intern $1000, Goldman Sachs was paying his classmate $8000, basically a graduate analyst's salary.

But our intern comes in at 9am, leaves by 6pm. Work is junior stuff. The GS intern apparently works 16hour days and weekends.
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possible to have working adult who take the NTU course for fun, a CEO of a contruction company actualy enrolled in a diploma course just to know how things works on the ground (last week paper).

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post Jul 26 2011, 11:21 AM

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Anyone have frens or recommendation for common room to rent, somewhere around Bishan, up to Toa Payoh, or up to Serangoon area?
Plan to stay around those area.
Got any recommendation?
Dun ask me to go to websites to check.
I have been checking websites everyday.
I am asking here to see if you guys have any frens around that area who wana rent out common room or if the house u stay right now got room for rent.
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post Jul 26 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jul 26 2011, 08:54 AM)
my malaysian peers mostly go private, mainly because not married, so no HDB for them
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single young malaysian buying ~$1m private property in SG.... sweat.gif

price is too high at the moment. Can consider renting whole HDB unit instead, rental should be close to the loan interest.


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post Jul 26 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Jul 26 2011, 10:45 AM)
I was all alone in Singapore...didn't have much friends....then due to work wise...i could move from a reseller/dealer position to an outsource team(KL branch) under the principal...there's an unsaid rule...also not nice mah...imagine your principal company korek their businesspartner/dealers/resellers employees.

So since it was still an outsource team..means i'm a contractor and my principal company is my client. So still worked out lor...then got a move from the outsource team based in KL branch back then to a perm position in the SG branch, pretty similar job description.
Also while I was back in KL found myself a lovely partner, whom moved to SG to work...so in that sense...this speed up my process in trying to find a job back in SG. Got a PR before I came back to kl to work, so the move wasnt that hard....nor easy either

How about u?
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got a offer that i dun loss much after conversion, that time i felt i can go back conquer the market hahah..
another reason is kl is near to my hometown ipoh, so going back to see my mum is easier, few hundred loss is worth it nod.gif

the loss i have recover within a year..

until last year sg side here offer something i cannot refuse , it was no brainer doh.gif
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post Jul 26 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Jul 26 2011, 10:45 AM)
I was all alone in Singapore...didn't have much friends....then due to work wise...i could move from a reseller/dealer position to an outsource team(KL branch) under the principal...there's an unsaid rule...also not nice mah...imagine your principal company korek their businesspartner/dealers/resellers employees.

So since it was still an outsource team..means i'm a contractor and my principal company is my client. So still worked out lor...then got a move from the outsource team based in KL branch back then to a perm position in the SG branch, pretty similar job description.
Also while I was back in KL found myself a lovely partner, whom moved to SG to work...so in that sense...this speed up my process in trying to find a job back in SG. Got a PR before I came back to kl to work, so the move wasnt that hard....nor easy either

How about u?
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haha quite like my story

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post Jul 26 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Jul 26 2011, 11:24 AM)
single young malaysian buying ~$1m private property in SG....  sweat.gif
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u be suprise there are few of them, some even cash out last year when property price is all time high, move in to fren place, make tonnes $


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post Jul 26 2011, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Laine @ Jul 26 2011, 10:48 AM)
so u working in a bank...?  blush.gif same line as me...  biggrin.gif
Not a bank. MNC.


Added on July 26, 2011, 11:34 am
QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jul 26 2011, 11:15 AM)
$8k per month for 16hrs days and weekend work is not too high actually. What surprised me is the 16hrs work, which is not allow under MOM, max allowable is only 12 hrs per day.
The official work hours in the employment contract are always normal... 8 or 9 hours.

That you choose to work OT (Own Time) for 8 hours a day... that's your choice.

MOM's regulations only pertain to official work hours, especially stuff like shifts, hourly/daily rated work etc. And low income or regulated workers etc.


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post Jul 26 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Jul 26 2011, 10:47 AM)
YA, this is why so many wanted to go back KL... but when they think twice again, still refuse to return malaysia due to SGD is too strong to resist.

So, they continue to stay here for decades, and finally slowly settle down, purchased a HDB, started a family, raise thier own children here, convert into a Singapore citizenship, then another 2 decades passed.... your children then graduated from NUS and continue to work in Singapore and life just goes on from here....

Many of my colleagues and friends are like this.

LoL, life is short, make-up your mind, get a firm decision. Tell yourself 5 years is 5 years, then after 5 years MUST return to malaysia. Unless you are foreveralone, then you can go anywhere and anytime you like.
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always on a look out, sometime kl does offer a better career deal, i did outpace 1-2 of my peers who continue staying, because i went back to kl for that few years, that few years i manage to jump 3 co in a year, finish a master, settle down there and with a better exposure in the managing level, it open door back here.



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Hi Sifus,

I have question here.
I am planning to roll over to SG alone look for job until I get one. I expect myself to get a job within a month.
How do I find a room that will allow me to rent without any contract? just one month and bye bye..no commitment.
As economic as possible as I will be spending money ONLY and not making any money. Thanks!
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QUOTE(newaisa @ Jul 26 2011, 04:18 PM)
Hi Sifus,

I have question here.
I am planning to roll over to SG alone look for job until I get one. I expect myself to get a job within a month.
How do I find a room that will allow me to rent without any contract? just one month and bye bye..no commitment.
As economic as possible as I will be spending money ONLY and not making any money. Thanks!
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I think is difficult to find a room just for a month unless u go through agent.

But when u go through agent, u need to pay 50% of your rent as agent fee which I see is not worth it as u r only staying for a month.
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just got hired by some company... they are applying work permit for me... how long it takes for them to approve it? can be few days? 2 weeks? 1 month? i don have criminal or wrongdoing in my history.... and got 1st class degree in software engineer.

can get in a few days?? coz i cannot wait to start working

This post has been edited by john_makaay: Jul 26 2011, 04:52 PM

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