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 New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!

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pds_disi
post Aug 5 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 5 2012, 02:46 PM)
I'm more like reach a certain milestone to reward myself yet I also want the car to retain a certain value when its time to sell if off kind of guy.

Can't I have both the cake and the pie at the same time?
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you can have any cake & pie you want, but you can't have every cake & pie you want.

say to choose from:
1. good brand & resale value; bad safety, spec, handling, outlook, etc...
2. everything opposite than option 1.

if i am going to set my targeted reward, and i know in bolehland i can only choose 1, my choice is clear.

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 5 2012, 03:28 PM)
Why do you guys even need to sell off a car? Drive it until it can't go on. No need to concern with resale value. And get a proper car in the first place that will still be considered modern in 10 years time. Compared to what Malaysians drive in the C segment our C segment Xsara is still a modern and comfortable car. Who cares if it is old, it runs well, is fun to drive and comfortable, and has plenty of safety features (of course the structure isn't that safe, but compared to Toyota and Honda?).
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post Aug 5 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 5 2012, 09:46 AM)
I'm more like reach a certain milestone to reward myself yet I also want the car to retain a certain value when its time to sell if off kind of guy.

Can't I have both the cake and the pie at the same time?
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u will get half cream of the cake and half pie. tongue.gif

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 5 2012, 10:28 AM)
You'd be surprised how many go for Skoda in Europe when they could have bought a higher class car like BMW or Merc. They actually do that because of brand image and status, too, especially businessmen. Apparently if you appear in a Skoda you are seen as smart and they won't try to bargain with you as hard, or something like that. Others want to enjoy luxury, without showing others that they do so. Those would also go for a Skoda for example.

Budget brands can offer cars that can compete with luxury brands, too. Look at the Hyundai Equus. 4.6 liter V8, luxurious interior, excellent NVH (hardly can hear the engine), very comfortable ride with air suspension. Includes big monitor and bar, massage chair, ...

If your wife can't drive... teach her. It's a good skill to have. Don't just always drive when you are with her, cause what will happen when she has to drive alone? Practice makes perfect, and the less she drives the worse her driving will be. Seen it with my mother.

Why do you guys even need to sell off a car? Drive it until it can't go on. No need to concern with resale value. And get a proper car in the first place that will still be considered modern in 10 years time. Compared to what Malaysians drive in the C segment our C segment Xsara is still a modern and comfortable car. Who cares if it is old, it runs well, is fun to drive and comfortable, and has plenty of safety features (of course the structure isn't that safe, but compared to Toyota and Honda?).
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cause company tax laugh.gif thats why. if we don't buy then end up give extra to gomen. I paid extra 38k if I don't spend on car after can installment company tax no need pay more.


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post Aug 5 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(pds_disi @ Aug 5 2012, 02:02 PM)
nothing about regret later, this is like :
- if i 'achieve certain life milestone', go for the reward i promise myself.
- if resale value is a concern, then i am not there yet, work harder.
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Yes, indeed! However, IMHO resale value can be a concern, but shouldn't be the major concern and become the main decision making point.


Added on August 5, 2012, 11:49 pm
QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 5 2012, 03:28 PM)
You'd be surprised how many go for Skoda in Europe when they could have bought a higher class car like BMW or Merc. They actually do that because of brand image and status, too, especially businessmen. Apparently if you appear in a Skoda you are seen as smart and they won't try to bargain with you as hard, or something like that. Others want to enjoy luxury, without showing others that they do so. Those would also go for a Skoda for example.

Budget brands can offer cars that can compete with luxury brands, too. Look at the Hyundai Equus. 4.6 liter V8, luxurious interior, excellent NVH (hardly can hear the engine), very comfortable ride with air suspension. Includes big monitor and bar, massage chair, ...

If your wife can't drive... teach her. It's a good skill to have. Don't just always drive when you are with her, cause what will happen when she has to drive alone? Practice makes perfect, and the less she drives the worse her driving will be. Seen it with my mother.

Why do you guys even need to sell off a car? Drive it until it can't go on. No need to concern with resale value. And get a proper car in the first place that will still be considered modern in 10 years time. Compared to what Malaysians drive in the C segment our C segment Xsara is still a modern and comfortable car. Who cares if it is old, it runs well, is fun to drive and comfortable, and has plenty of safety features (of course the structure isn't that safe, but compared to Toyota and Honda?).
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Unfortunately I'm in Asia..... so I usually follow the the normal norm....... and to be very honest with you.... if I'm looking for a 4.8L V8 luxury sedan, I won't look at Hyundai..... or any cold brand.

It is like if I'm going for an Europe tour for the first time, I will want to go to France, Italy, German, Switzerland..... definitely I'm not looking at Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia.... although those countries may also offer good tour package, more affordable.....

I always let my wife drive, don't misunderstand, just that she will drive her car and not mine.... hahahah! Yes, practice make perfect, but it seems for ladies, the process of reaching similar competency like men takes a longer duration....
Besides, I bought her a car equipped with all the vital safety measurement ( according to our F&F forum criteria/guideline/debate/opinion/judgement.....), for instance, ABS, EBD, VSC, TC, airbag etc etc...... so, should be very safe rite? biggrin.gif

And this is just me, my own philosophy of life.

This post has been edited by landlily98: Aug 6 2012, 12:57 PM
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post Aug 6 2012, 03:36 AM

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Guys, with th new Automated Enforcement System due to be operational soon, isnt it a waste getting a high cc car? I mean whats the point when u can only go 110kmph on the highway?
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post Aug 6 2012, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 6 2012, 03:36 AM)
Guys, with th new Automated Enforcement System due to be operational soon, isnt it a waste getting a high cc car? I mean whats the point when u can only go 110kmph on the highway?
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Well.. Tell that to the existing Lamborghini and Ferrari owners. I've seen friends paying off summons like telephone bills just because they like speeding on the highway.
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post Aug 6 2012, 05:32 AM

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camry in the middle east used as taxis..
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post Aug 6 2012, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 5 2012, 10:36 PM)
Guys, with th new Automated Enforcement System due to be operational soon, isnt it a waste getting a high cc car? I mean whats the point when u can only go 110kmph on the highway?
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yes. I believe all car can hit 110km/h even viva. why you not buy viva? kinda waste if you buy higher cc car.
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post Aug 6 2012, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 6 2012, 03:36 AM)
Guys, with th new Automated Enforcement System due to be operational soon, isnt it a waste getting a high cc car? I mean whats the point when u can only go 110kmph on the highway?
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It just means you have to be prepared to pay more for speed. Just factor in the cost of saman into the TCO of the car. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(z928328 @ Aug 6 2012, 05:32 AM)
camry in the middle east used as taxis..
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I've seen Benz used as taxis in Europe. So what's your point?
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post Aug 6 2012, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(stix @ Aug 6 2012, 03:42 AM)
Well.. Tell that to the existing Lamborghini and Ferrari owners. I've seen friends paying off summons like telephone bills just because they like speeding on the highway.
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along kesas, kena few samans by letter..hit 111km/hr at 90km/hr speed limit 3 lanes stretch. After paying a couple of saman, sked dy. Try as hard maintain 90km/hr, but old kancil sunny datsun vanette flew pass me like im crawling. WTF!!


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:20 am
QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 6 2012, 08:50 AM)
I've seen Benz used as taxis in Europe. So what's your point?
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5 series as well


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:23 am
QUOTE(kepalapening @ Aug 4 2012, 10:44 PM)
Yes, it is true. One of my friend whom make RM240k per annum only drive a second hand kancil. He bought the kancil after his sunny burnt.
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ohh...i have known a public listed company director with at least 1b asset, but still no auto gate in his house. Drive only camry(got chaffeur), n bought satria for his eldest son.

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post Aug 6 2012, 11:05 AM

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this is to educate the son, if you want a ferrari, you have to work and earn for it. not by asking from someone.

the satria is a bonus for the son, as that is his vision, today i have a satria, in 5 years time i drive a GTR, and in 10 years time i drive a ferrari.

as for the autogate, probably he has a gardener that will open the gate for him. when you have too much money. you got to stay low, otherwise you got to hire body guard, and that will even attract more attention. being rich is also hard nowadays.

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post Aug 6 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Aug 6 2012, 10:20 AM)
along kesas, kena few samans by letter..hit 111km/hr at 90km/hr speed limit 3 lanes stretch. After paying a couple of saman, sked dy. Try as hard maintain 90km/hr, but old kancil sunny datsun vanette flew pass me like im crawling. WTF!!


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:20 am

5 series as well


Added on August 6, 2012, 10:23 am

ohh...i have known a public listed company director with at least 1b asset, but still no auto gate in his house. Drive only camry(got chaffeur), n bought satria for his eldest son.
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The extra money all those Kancil, Viva, Sunny owners save when they chose cheap car rather than a more expensive one are meant for paying the saman...... so they don't mind speeding.... hahaha!
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QUOTE(stix @ Aug 6 2012, 03:42 AM)
Well.. Tell that to the existing Lamborghini and Ferrari owners. I've seen friends paying off summons like telephone bills just because they like speeding on the highway.
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wait, lemme calculate...300/1,500,000 = 0.02%...ermmm yeah, sort of like nasi lemak in the morning for them
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I was wondering if Malaysia follow those oversea countries rules, meaning if caught speeding for the first time, RM300 fine, second time RM600, third time driving license will suspended for 2 months and fine RM2000.00, the 4th time will be suspended from driving 2 years and fine RM10k. What will these guys do?
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
I was wondering if Malaysia follow those oversea countries rules, meaning if caught speeding for the first time, RM300 fine, second time RM600, third time driving license will suspended for 2 months and fine RM2000.00, the 4th time will be suspended from driving 2 years and fine RM10k. What will these guys do?
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err....pay rm1000 or little bit more to the guy which control this, and back to square one

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post Aug 6 2012, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
I was wondering if Malaysia follow those oversea countries rules, meaning if caught speeding for the first time, RM300 fine, second time RM600, third time driving license will suspended for 2 months and fine RM2000.00, the 4th time will be suspended from driving 2 years and fine RM10k. What will these guys do?
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The question is: what will the traffic polices do? catch and fine them.... or resolve to scratch each other's back kind of scenario....?

Honestly, if you want strict enforcement, IMHO let the polices have certain percentage as merit from the total of traffic samans they issue under their names, the more saman (of course, with evident), the bigger the amount they will receive at the end of the day/month.

And suspending the driving licence or impounding the vehicles are more useful than fine for rich people.

Then, our beloved rakyat will protest again......

Anyway, this should not be an issue anymore as we are going to have automated cameras everywhere now.

This post has been edited by landlily98: Aug 6 2012, 12:50 PM
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i drove my sister's 2.0 yesterday, didnt feel its power cos it seems like in econ mode,anyway i dun knw how to switch off the econ mode.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 6 2012, 03:36 AM)
Guys, with th new Automated Enforcement System due to be operational soon, isnt it a waste getting a high cc car? I mean whats the point when u can only go 110kmph on the highway?
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No it is not a waste of money, as bigger cc new sedan cars normally come with extra luxurious specs, safety equipment, better NVH, more agile suspension setting, perhaps a branded car HIFI etc..... you get not only faster speed but higher torque, good for hilly road, ferrying more passengers. Don't forget the social status that come along.


Added on August 6, 2012, 1:00 pm
QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 5 2012, 02:46 PM)
I'm more like reach a certain milestone to reward myself yet I also want the car to retain a certain value when its time to sell if off kind of guy.

Can't I have both the cake and the pie at the same time?
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Yes you can, go for the limited edition, collectible type of cars.... your resale value may even be higher than retail price.... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by landlily98: Aug 6 2012, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ Aug 6 2012, 01:55 PM)
i drove my sister's 2.0 yesterday, didnt feel its power cos it seems like in econ mode,anyway i dun knw how to switch off the econ mode.
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just curious, is there an ECON mode on the new camry?
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QUOTE(gary_ckwai @ Aug 6 2012, 08:04 PM)
just curious, is there an ECON mode on the new camry?
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I dn knw, cos I saw ECO on dashboard

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