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post Oct 8 2011, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Oct 7 2011, 08:55 PM)
+1

Because instead of saying X + Y + Z = A, you just spit it out and say 325lbs. So much simpler, no?  tongue.gif
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+2 especially if some gyms use metric, so 1 plate = 25kg sweat.gif
btw smith machine's bar is also 20kg?
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post Oct 8 2011, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Oct 8 2011, 01:22 AM)
+2 especially if some gyms use metric, so 1 plate = 25kg  sweat.gif
btw smith machine's bar is also 20kg?
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nope, metric gyms uses 20kg lates.
Smith machines, it really depends on the manufacturer
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post Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM

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why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....



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post Oct 8 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....
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maybe powerlifter care bout weights. i don't. i care more on how my body changed. i will definitely not ashamed if my body can be shaped by doing light weights. focus and form is the first thing. smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....
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Because poundages DO mattter. You ain gonna get big if you're not gonna add weights. Imo weights lifted take a very close second to form. You can have perfect form, but with too light a weight its still not gonna matter, too.
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post Oct 8 2011, 12:42 PM

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What alpha is trying to say is that, the weights are irrelevant, what's important is the form and the contraction of the muscle when we are lifting. Mike has a very good point too, more weight = more muscle. Every bit in bodybuilding is important, it's up to the individual to find the balance and execution to be able to lift the heaviest weight with the best form and recover with the best nutrition and rest.

It's all part of being a bodybuilder
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post Oct 8 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....
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hmm how can u tell whether they are happy or not at their current state. I don't know their form or wat poundages they r lifting but i believe some ppl are happy at their current size and probably are just lifting for fun or just maintaining. Or it could be their diet tats ruining the whole process.
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post Oct 8 2011, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....
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"its not how much u can lift, but how u look in the mirror that matters" applies here

Performing exercises with a weight that doesn’t allow you to sustain proper form throughout the exercise, can increase the risk of injury. It also won’t help you develop those huge muscles that you were aiming for in the first place. This is because using improper form forces your body to use other muscles to complete the exercise.

This post has been edited by Aztec: Oct 8 2011, 01:50 PM
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post Oct 8 2011, 01:51 PM

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Still, a 225lbs bench press with a 60 kg bodyweight. I'm calling for vid verification on that one.
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post Oct 8 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
why you guys so concern about the number of weights?

sloppy form, bad technique, body looked like anythings but a bodybuilder, but proud of the poundage hoisted?

seen alot of these dudes around my local gym... with the same body each and every years, can benched, rows, presses twice what i can lift... but somehow, stay the farking same for the last ten years....
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well at least for me it serve as a method of measuring my progress,
everyweek i'll try to add 5lbs to my sets

QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 8 2011, 01:51 PM)
Still, a 225lbs bench press with a 60 kg bodyweight. I'm calling for vid verification on that one.
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lol this guy is persistent !! brows.gif
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post Oct 8 2011, 03:05 PM

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It's not being persistent, and he is the 4th guy asking for it, mike ,kaffatsum and me were the first 3.

It's called being really impressed
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post Oct 8 2011, 04:26 PM

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me too!!! i don believe u adixx. video now!!



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actually i`m jealous. i`m 75 kg and i bench 60-65 kgs only
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post Oct 8 2011, 04:44 PM

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Mike and Dan u guys from kl? I might come kl next week. Fancy a training session?
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:11 PM

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im from klang. i'd be down for a session if its not too far from klang lol. maybe sunway or subang area can la.
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:15 PM

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Let's have a threesome. No homo. Ghetto gyms around that area for per entry? Ff charges 60 bucks per entry -.-
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:34 PM

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I live near Kajang. laugh.gif

Can't go far cause I've got my A levels in a week.
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:37 PM

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Lol. Next time then dan, good luck for your papers.My range of driving will be near the curve , sunway, pj . I'll stay at this tropicana something housing area in pj. Wherever that is. I'm relying on my gps -.-
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post Oct 8 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Oct 8 2011, 12:30 PM)
Because poundages DO mattter. You ain gonna get big if you're not gonna add weights. Imo weights lifted take a very close second to form. You can have perfect form, but with too light a weight its still not gonna matter, too.
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i do mentioned crappy form right? lifting big with half reps half motions aint gonna do d!ck to your progress, believe me, i been there... benching half way and expect your pecs to grow brah?

yes, i agreed with the weight lifted are pretty important too, but it should falls on number three, form and mind muscles connection are both 1 and 2...



QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Oct 8 2011, 01:40 PM)
hmm how can u tell whether they are happy or not at their current state. I don't know their form or wat poundages they r lifting but i believe some ppl are happy at their current size and probably are just lifting for fun or just maintaining. Or it could be their diet tats ruining the whole process.
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wat i dont know is how deep is your understanding in bodybuilding... if going to gym for ten years but learn nothing about your body is just epic fail....



QUOTE(Aztec @ Oct 8 2011, 01:48 PM)
"its not how much u can lift, but how u look in the mirror that matters" applies here

Performing exercises with a weight that doesn’t allow you to sustain proper form throughout the exercise, can increase the risk of injury. It also won’t help you develop those huge muscles that you were aiming for in the first place. This is because using improper form forces your body to use other muscles to complete the exercise.
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"its not how much you can lift, its how much you looked you can lift" - Bob Cicherillo




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post Oct 8 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Alphaproject @ Oct 8 2011, 05:40 PM)
i do mentioned crappy form right? lifting big with half reps half motions aint gonna do d!ck to your progress, believe me, i been there... benching half way and expect your pecs to grow brah?

yes, i agreed with the weight lifted are pretty important too, but it should falls on number three, form and mind muscles connection are both 1 and 2...
wat i dont know is how deep is your understanding in bodybuilding... if going to gym for ten years but learn nothing about your body is just epic fail....
"its not how much you can lift, its how much you looked you can lift" - Bob Cicherillo
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dude, end of they day we're just saying the same thing haha. we both agree crappy form isnt gonna do shit, and poundages matter. i dont see whats the argument is about. and imo is your form is decent you're gonna hit your targeted muscles, mind muscle connection is just something you acquire with experience. dont expect a newbie to understand all that
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The nearest gym is anabolic gym. Anyone been there? What are the per entry fees?

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