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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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cybermaster98
post Dec 29 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Dec 29 2011, 03:32 PM)
i dunno about u... but, my fren keep on complaining her 7 yr old vios rattle like hell.... she cant take it anymore and thinking of changing her car asap... my 7.5 yr old hyundai still running strong  whistling.gif
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Well if u trash your car then dont expect it to last. Not sure if thats the case with your friend but ladies have the tendency to always run into potholes thus reducing the lifespan of the shock absorbers & tyres. Ive been always carefull with my car but its got about 178K mileage.
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post Dec 29 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 29 2011, 01:15 PM)
How do you gauge quality with a 2 yr old car? If your car starts developing problems within the first 2 yrs, then its crap but if it doesnt then it doesnt mean its all good either. Parts usually start giving way after about 4 years or so. Even previous gen Spectra's generally didnt have problems within the 1st 2 yrs.

And by testing handling and braking, how does that gauge quality? Thats a totally different aspect.

You wanna know the meaning of quality come test drive my 2003 Vios. Despite being 8.5 yrs, the engine is still smooth, accelaration still good, no rattles anywhere in the car, the window/door seals are still in excellent conditon, suspension is still smooth with no squeeks, aircon still really strong and paintwork still shiny and nice.

Thats what i call QUALITY.
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No offence bro but you're not the only one here who owns a Vios for 8+ years and it doesn't perform like what you said.
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post Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 29 2011, 03:34 PM)
Year end car... u try ask around.. some marque year end car you get 20~25k discount....
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A car which is originally priced at 92k and now giving discount as much as 9k is not ordinary year end discount. We are talking about 10% of the original car price!!
This is quite a hot selling car looking at the volume sold every month since Jan'11 and there is no reason to give out such huge discount. I suspect there want to clear stock and ready for the imminent launch of another sedan model which is priced close to Inspira.
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM)
A car which is originally priced at 92k and now giving discount as much as 9k is not ordinary year end discount. We are talking about 10% of the original car price!!
This is quite a hot selling car looking at the volume sold every month since Jan'11 and there is no reason to give out such huge discount. I suspect there want to clear stock and ready for the imminent launch of another sedan model which is priced close to Inspira.
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clear stock to reprice next batch inspira, new pricing strategy for the new sedan perhaps?


Added on December 29, 2011, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(yamasce @ Dec 29 2011, 03:23 PM)
err y not lolz...if car not yet arrive can cancel and get full refund...if arrive cancel get 80% back onli...
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hmm, can mer? quite flexible.


Added on December 29, 2011, 4:34 pm
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 29 2011, 02:45 PM)
tuna, second thought, since u wan it to be 10k cheaper

why not go for sonata 2.0 high spec? biggrin.gif

at rm13xk. the panaromic roof is.......speech less.
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this K5 also got pana roof right.
rm10k treat it as investment for your car, which is a tool for you to have more opportunities... hee hee

This post has been edited by stargate8: Dec 29 2011, 04:34 PM
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Dec 29 2011, 04:27 PM)
hmm, can mer? quite flexible.
yea can do based on my experience la...but not sure if book at more than 1 branch duno HQ will burn the booking fee or not
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM)
A car which is originally priced at 92k and now giving discount as much as 9k is not ordinary year end discount. We are talking about 10% of the original car price!!
This is quite a hot selling car looking at the volume sold every month since Jan'11 and there is no reason to give out such huge discount. I suspect there want to clear stock and ready for the imminent launch of another sedan model which is priced close to Inspira.
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bro, the car since june/july already giving 5k + 3 years free service.

3 years free service also near to rm3000-4000 already.

i would say, they were too optimistic on the sales forecast. you know la.
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 29 2011, 04:46 PM)
bro, the car since june/july already giving 5k + 3 years free service.

3 years free service also near to rm3000-4000 already.

i would say, they were too optimistic on the sales forecast. you know la.
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isn't that the promotion for 1.8 model?
unrealistic sales forecasting.

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post Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 29 2011, 04:46 PM)
bro, the car since june/july already giving 5k + 3 years free service.

3 years free service also near to rm3000-4000 already.

i would say, they were too optimistic on the sales forecast. you know la.
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That's what make me couldn't think of the reason, why they are giving such a good discount and freebies since few months back. Normally this sort of discount is for outgoing model or those which not selling well isn't it?
Is actually one of my shortlisted buying option but the discount just getting better and better which give me the impression that an exciting proton model is going to be launched soon. Perhaps a sedan with turbo engine ? brows.gif
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Dec 29 2011, 04:53 PM)
isn't that the promotion for 1.8 model?
unrealistic sales forecasting.
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discount across all models,

well you know, they scrw up 80% of the time.

when they dont scrw up the car design, they scrw up the forecast, lol.
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post Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Dec 29 2011, 04:42 PM)
yea can do based on my experience la...but not sure if book at more than 1 branch duno HQ will burn the booking fee or not
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no need to place 2 bookings
counter it by telling them if car unable to deliver within 3months, give me more discounts. rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 29 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM)
no need to place 2 bookings
counter it by telling them if car unable to deliver within 3months,  give me more discounts. rclxm9.gif
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i know...i'm asking for my bro..alrdy paid booking fee at 2 branches...duno will refund or not now
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post Dec 29 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Dec 29 2011, 05:15 PM)
i know...i'm asking for my bro..alrdy paid booking fee at 2 branches...duno will refund or not now
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aiya, u already paid, nvm lar, treat it as charity. lol
buy lottery for ur new car, may end up striking jackpot
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post Dec 29 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 29 2011, 04:46 PM)
i would say, they were too optimistic on the sales forecast. you know la.
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in conjunction with m'sia mentality is to buy a car which has a higher sales value...

QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM)
Normally this sort of discount is for outgoing model or those which not selling well isn't it?
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Dec 29 2011, 11:00 AM)
It is Naza strategy la.. rip the money from hardcore fanboys 1st..
lt later on put on huge discount on past slow moving model..
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which one is better...?
put on huge discount on past slow moving model OR current fast moving model...?

QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Dec 29 2011, 04:55 PM)
Perhaps a sedan with turbo engine ? brows.gif
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turbo can use RON95 ? if yes maybe, if RON97, they better keep that car for use during endurance race only...
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post Dec 29 2011, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Dec 29 2011, 05:34 PM)
in conjunction with m'sia mentality is to buy a car which has a higher sales value...
which one is better...?
put on huge discount on past slow moving model OR current fast moving model...?
turbo can use RON95 ? if yes maybe, if RON97, they better keep that car for use during endurance race only...
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RON95 can be used with a turbo engine, why not? It's all a matter of factory tuning. All the Golfs, Passat CCs etc all can run on RON95 wat. Even the new Exora CFE can run on RON95. Not so powderful la, that's all...
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post Dec 29 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Dec 29 2011, 05:44 PM)
RON95 can be used with a turbo engine, why not? It's all a matter of factory tuning. All the Golfs, Passat CCs etc all can run on RON95 wat. Even the new Exora CFE can run on RON95. Not so powderful la, that's all...
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will the engine be tuned by default to use low grade petrol, for new car coming to msia?
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Dec 29 2011, 05:56 PM)
will the engine be tuned by default to use low grade petrol, for new car coming to msia?
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Of course, unless it's specified by the manufacturer that you must use RON97 or higher, like the Civic Type R running on factory tune. My fren went and detuned his CTR cos beh tahan the fuel price lol...
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post Dec 29 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Dec 29 2011, 06:02 PM)
Of course, unless it's specified by the manufacturer that you must use RON97 or higher, like the Civic Type R running on factory tune. My fren went and detuned his CTR cos beh tahan the fuel price lol...
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lol, a bottle 1.5L of 100plus cost 2.80-3.00
car drink petrol same as drinking 100plus, sigh

donno ron95 1.90 till when.
but i think still worth it lar if ron97 rm3.00
compare with lousy public transportation.

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post Dec 31 2011, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(xVince @ Dec 29 2011, 03:57 PM)
No offence bro but you're not the only one here who owns a Vios for 8+ years and it doesn't perform like what you said.
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Read my post again. I was refering to MY car. If you have a bad experience with your Vios of the same batch then u have to re-examine your own use of the vehicle as most of the problems with Vios were in the newer generation model. But there are horror stories for all makes even Porsche mind you. But Toyota will not be No 1 non national car in Malaysia if it was plagued with quality issues & was unreliable. Malaysians arent stupid. They may not be easily taken in by specs but quality, reliability and after sales service rank very high.

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post Dec 31 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 29 2011, 03:57 PM)
Well if u trash your car then dont expect it to last. Not sure if thats the case with your friend but ladies have the tendency to always run into potholes thus reducing the lifespan of the shock absorbers & tyres. Ive been always carefull with my car but its got about 178K mileage.
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very well said by yourself.... its all depend how you drive and how u trash ur car.... so whats the point of bragging vios has better reliability where there is no common base to measure...... all this arguement r pointlesss....
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Dec 29 2011, 04:27 PM)
clear stock to reprice next batch inspira, new pricing strategy for the new sedan perhaps?


Added on December 29, 2011, 4:29 pm

hmm, can mer? quite flexible.


Added on December 29, 2011, 4:34 pm
this K5 also got pana roof right.
rm10k treat it as investment for your car, which is a tool for you to have more opportunities... hee hee
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Aiya, where got such thing as investment when it comes to cars that are priced at surplus of 100k....


And i somehowbfeel the sonata front grill looks cacat... The back v nice tho! Even better than elantra!



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