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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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xVince
post Dec 28 2011, 03:15 AM

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Current gen Camry & Accord HS is about 10k more expensive and is true that it is unfair to compare to the current models. But if you wanna compare with the new models, do you think the price will maintain the same? I don't think so.

The new gen Camry probably gonna about 5-10k more than the current model and I doubt the spec they offer can be as good as the Optima K5.
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post Dec 29 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 29 2011, 01:15 PM)
How do you gauge quality with a 2 yr old car? If your car starts developing problems within the first 2 yrs, then its crap but if it doesnt then it doesnt mean its all good either. Parts usually start giving way after about 4 years or so. Even previous gen Spectra's generally didnt have problems within the 1st 2 yrs.

And by testing handling and braking, how does that gauge quality? Thats a totally different aspect.

You wanna know the meaning of quality come test drive my 2003 Vios. Despite being 8.5 yrs, the engine is still smooth, accelaration still good, no rattles anywhere in the car, the window/door seals are still in excellent conditon, suspension is still smooth with no squeeks, aircon still really strong and paintwork still shiny and nice.

Thats what i call QUALITY.
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No offence bro but you're not the only one here who owns a Vios for 8+ years and it doesn't perform like what you said.
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post Jan 22 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 22 2012, 07:50 AM)
Everybody in f&f know u defense kimchi until certain extend...  Ur calculation base on value are totally irrelevant.. 

Base on value, y don't u use a Santa fe or a sorento to compare wt a murano..  Those car sure drop less than murano... 

Another way to look at it u may assume a company buy 4 units of the camry u mention vs the same company buying 5 unit of ur belove sonata...   Both cases use almost same amount of $. So now who lost more?

Percentage is much more fair comparison and another thing not fair is when car getting depreciate until very low value, resistance are there.
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Irrelevant in what way? Both cars are D-Segment and produced in the same year. Mid class D-Segment sedan (T/H/Hyundai/Nissan/Mazda etc.) is one of the famous comparison here. One of the fact is many people said they rather pay more for the overpriced Japanese brand because of resale value and now you want to compare these cars at the same price?

Don't bother to talk about your Santa Fe/Sorento to Murano comparison. You just give out a comparison that noone makes before/often. Is like comparing a Camry to an E-Class just because they are on the same segment.

Seriously, what does the percentage help you? When you sell your car, you think those percentage figure can convert into something solid? In the end you only see how much you get back and calculate the lost. Who cares whether is 60% or 80% depreciation if both cars loses the same amount of value in the same period of time.

This post has been edited by xVince: Jan 22 2012, 03:17 PM
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post Feb 27 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(danscsa @ Feb 27 2012, 10:01 AM)
just saw display optima in a shopping mall here at jb. Was always skeptical regarding the interior but that was totally washed away as being face to face as to watching hours of video really proved me wrong and was a solid and luxurious interior with a muscular presence which matches the exterior .

Only reason why I am holding back is that I really wished the turbo version would come in even thou I know due to petrol grade issues and its inability to support GDI engines.

Second reason is due to the very limited color choice.

If these two reasons were addressed then I would definately get one for sure!
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 27 2012, 01:27 PM)
Well a 2.0L Hybrid wont be cheap for sure and that being a Korean make, it won't sell well in Malaysia. So i doubt they will bring that in too. So dont hope for either.
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They don't even wanna bring in the 2.4 Theta II. Let alone the GDI and Hybrid.

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