143k is crazy for this kia. I know its kitted max,but by the 2nd year u already lost loads of money. And besides, korean cars never drive as well as japs. They might hv all the bells n whistles but when it come to performance, they still suck at it.

And i dont see this car selling well in msia. Use the sonata as a benchmark. Hardly see any of them on the road. Ppl who buy this car either just want to look different or just got conned by the good looks. For that kinda money, its vw golf tsi anytime man, or a honda civic 2.0

How do you gauge quality with a 2 yr old car? If your car starts developing problems within the first 2 yrs, then its crap but if it doesnt then it doesnt mean its all good either. Parts usually start giving way after about 4 years or so. Even previous gen Spectra's generally didnt have problems within the 1st 2 yrs.

And by testing handling and braking, how does that gauge quality? Thats a totally different aspect.

You wanna know the meaning of quality come test drive my 2003 Vios. Despite being 8.5 yrs, the engine is still smooth, accelaration still good, no rattles anywhere in the car, the window/door seals are still in excellent conditon, suspension is still smooth with no squeeks, aircon still really strong and paintwork still shiny and nice.

Thats what i call QUALITY.

Well if u trash your car then dont expect it to last. Not sure if thats the case with your friend but ladies have the tendency to always run into potholes thus reducing the lifespan of the shock absorbers & tyres. Ive been always carefull with my car but its got about 178K mileage.

The key word here is DURABILITY. Some cars fare better despite being trashed while others dont. And not everything can be thrashed in order to determine durability. How do you trash an aircon, door seals, power windows, lights, plastics, etc? U can't really do that no matter how hard u try. But these parts lasted too in my case. So what's your common base here then?

Btw, nobody bragged. Go read my posts again in case u find it hard to determine the difference between facts & mere empty talk. Just cuz u prefer ppl to have a poor image of Toyota doesnt mean that reflects the truth. I aint the only one who has had a good experience with Toyota. Last time i checked there were approx 4 mil Toyota owners in the world. And despite my good experience with Toyota, im still open to the options of changing stables.

Btw, none of my posts are pointless. Cheers!

I just went to the Kia Red Cube along Federal HIghway tis morning hoping to get my 5th look at the car. I arrived at 9.45am and the showroom was supposedly opened at 8.30am. Everything open but no salesman anywhere. The cleaner came up and passed me a brochure. I waited about 30mins and he didnt show up. I checked everywhere but he was nowhere to be found.

This is the crap service that Naza provides. Really tarnishes the name of Kia. How does Naza expect to change the perception of Malaysians towards the Korean brand when they have such poorly trained sales ppl with no professionalism?? Really pisses me off. Its not just 1 showroom. Its kinda widespread!